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Thank you OP for all the information! Incredibly helpful.
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I was speaking this morning with a customer service representative in the Philippines.

I asked if they have heard of local cases; he said "yes, we are talking about it a lot. There are local cases."

Officially, the PI has just 3 cases. It is a nation of 109 million people, and unlikely that one of these 3 cases was local to this customer service representative.
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I was speaking this morning with a customer service representative in the Philippines.

I asked if they have heard of local cases; he said "yes, we are talking about it a lot. There are local cases."

Officially, the PI has just 3 cases. It is a nation of 109 million people, and unlikely that one of these 3 cases was local to this customer service representative.
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did you look up the location of the company, and the positives?
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Thread: Kennedy brutal exchange on death rate with DHS






Brutal.
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Wolf is squirming and his voice is shaky. Almost feel bad for him - but he should be able to confidently answer every one of these questions, considering his position.
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I suspect he is QUITE aware of the model predictions, and just did not want them outed. I would think he was on the phone right after this hearing to Kennedy's office.
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Even though municipal water came down our road 12 years ago, I kept my well for just an occasion such as this. If you are on a well and trying to figure out how to get water out of it when the power goes down, there is a simple and cheap solution...the bailer bucket.

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My well is 240 feet deep. I have a generator and fuel to occasionally run my pump. Bailing for water that deep is WAY down on my list of things I want to do. cool2
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240'? That wasn't a cheap well. I'm drawing at 75' so bailing for me is feasible. Worst case scenario, I walk across the road and bail from the St. Lawrence River.
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Ours is 400 feet we aren't bailing that. We have a spring we dug down and tapped 2 years back. We will use that.
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Oh boy. I have been on GLP a LONG time, and I don't recall ever seeing over a full page of pins.

Is there something going on I should know about? tounge

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I see a whole bunch of "Uncle Intel" posts. (And I am grateful for the sincere reports.)

But, I hope that in addition to posting on GLP, they are calling the local news sources to investigate.
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Oh boy. I have been on GLP a LONG time, and I don't recall ever seeing over a full page of pins.

Is there something going on I should know about? tounge
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orange man bad... lol

Even tho markets have struggled for days. his comments last night are 100% the reason it is struggling today as well.

and then more orange man bad..
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Oh boy. I have been on GLP a LONG time, and I don't recall ever seeing over a full page of pins.

Is there something going on I should know about? tounge
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One day, ages ago, SHR broke the forum when he pinned every 1st page thread. lol.. One pin too many. chuckle
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Health expert tapped for coronavirus task force will report to Pence

Vice President Mike Pence's office announced Thursday that Ambassador Deborah Birx, a physician and public health expert, will serve as the White House's "coronavirus response coordinator."
Birx will likely be coordinating with the other health professionals on the novel coronavirus, essentially taking on what appears to be a coronavirus "czar" role on the public health level, while Pence, who is not a health expert, oversees the administration's overall preparation and response.
Pence's office also announced three other new task force members: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams and National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow.
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Federal health officials say they have resolved a problem that has hindered wide testing for the new coronavirus in the United States, a crucial practice for fighting the spread of the dangerous new infection.

A problem with one ingredient in test kits that the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention distributed to labs around the country had created a frustrating bottleneck in testing, requiring most testing to occur at the CDC in Atlanta.
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Pope Francis falls ill day after supporting people with coronavirus

Pope Francis has missed a planned Mass with clergy in Rome due to an unspecified illness.

The Vatican said the pontiff, 83, had a ‘slight indisposition’ and would proceed with the rest of his planned work today but ‘preferred to stay near Santa Marta’, the Vatican hotel where he lives.

There was no word from the Vatican about the nature of his illness, but the pope was seen coughing and blowing his nose during the Ash Wednesday Mass.





Runny nose, probably not CoV.
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Coronavirus positives rose to 650 in Italy. Then there are three other deaths in Lombardy, all over 80 years old.



"Everything is normal, there is no problem in the red zone," said Borrelli. "The Department has made available and over 35 thousand masks are arriving in Emilia Romagna, Piedmont, Lombardy and Veneto".

(The head of the Civil Protection, Angelo Borrelli )
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Sweden

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A further five people in Sweden have been detected infected by covid-19. This applies to three people in Västra Götaland, one person in the Uppsala Region and one person in the Stockholm region.
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A first case of coronavirus has been confirmed in Northern Ireland.
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The diagnosis is highly significant as it confirms the suspicions of many specialists after the spike in coronavirus cases in Italy: “The virus has been circulating for several days in Spain and we hadn’t detected it,” said the head of infectious diseases at a major Spanish hospital earlier this week.

...suggested that a “meeting held in Málaga” could have been the origin of his infection.

... a total of 17 cases had been reported in Spain.
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Thursday, February 27: Coronavirus in NRW: 20 infected in NRW confirmed, hundreds in quarantine


In North Rhine-Westphalia, 14 other people have been shown to be infected with the novel corona virus. The district of Heinsberg and the NRW Ministry of Health announced on Thursday evening that the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in the district of Heinsberg had increased to 20.


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Thursday, February 27: Four more coronavirus cases in Baden-Württemberg


In Baden-Württemberg, four other people have been infected with the novel corona virus. The Ministry of Social Affairs announced on Thursday evening in Stuttgart. This means that the number of confirmed infections in the state has risen to eight.
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Olivier Véran, the Minister of Health, announced that France was facing "a significant increase" in the number of cases of contamination by the coronavirus on its territory this Thursday. 38 cases are now confirmed in France.
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Oh boy. I have been on GLP a LONG time, and I don't recall ever seeing over a full page of pins.

Is there something going on I should know about? tounge
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I saw it when Ebola was a scare for like half a day.
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10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

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Dozens of staffers at Calif. hospital that treated coronavirus patient with no travel to affected countries are being monitored

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The woman wasn’t tested for the disease for days, despite an immediate request to the CDC, because she didn’t meet the strict criteria for the test, according UC Davis Medical Center, where she is being treated. The CDC could not immediately be reached for comment. But federal health officials have said clinicians always have discretion to order the test for people who do not meet the criteria.

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The patient is a Solano County woman who brought herself to NorthBay VacaValley Hospital, a 50-bed community hospital in Vacaville, Calif., with flulike symptoms on Feb. 15, according to a person briefed on the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

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The hospital is “meticulously tracing” anyone who may have come into contact with the woman, and monitoring scores of dozens of staff members who may have been exposed, Brewer said in a statement. She added that any staff who had direct contact with the woman have been tested for the virus and are tracking their own health at home, after being put on paid leave. So far, there have been no positive tests, she said.

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“We are going the records and security footage to make sure we know every person who has been in contact with the patient to determine if they are a low, medium or high risk,” she said. “We did that last night and are finishing it up today.”

Staff at NorthBay inserted a tube in the woman’s lungs to help her breathe, a procedure experts say increases risk of exposure to the virus because it can aerosolize respiratory droplets, according to the person briefed on the case

When the woman’s health continued to decline, Brewer said, she was transferred to UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, which has more capacity and expertise with pulmonary patient. UC Davis officials said she arrived there on Feb. 19.

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If the infection is confirmed to be a case of “community spread,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, epidemiologist and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, “it would confirm what we have long suspected — that there is a good chance there already are people infected in this country and that the virus is circulating undetected. It points to the need for expanded surveillance so we know how many more are out there and how to respond.”
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Hey Nawty ... Thanks again for a concise and clean thread!!

The rest of this place has turned into a Trump bashing forum. I am guessing mainly because most on here don't have the fortitude to deal with this news and need to blame someone so orange man bad is their clearest path in venting their fearful childish anxieties ... I guess we all handle things in different ways !!

In trying to keep it it positive ... Have a great day everyone !! hf
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Italy

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250 new and 5 deaths in last 24 hours

650 people are infected

17 people died

45 people recovered

248 patients hospitalized with symptoms

56 in ICU

284 in home isolation
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Hey Nawty ... Thanks again for a concise and clean thread!!

The rest of this place has turned into a Trump bashing forum. I am guessing mainly because most on here don't have the fortitude to deal with this news and need to blame someone so orange man bad is their clearest path in venting their fearful childish anxieties ... I guess we all handle things in different ways !!

In trying to keep it it positive ... Have a great day everyone !! hf
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You're welcome.

People need a place for info and people need a place to vent.

I'm just trying to do my little part.
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Hong Kong AFCD: Dog Tests `Weakly Positive' For COVID-19

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Detection of low level of COVID-19 virus in pet dog
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A spokesman for the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) said today (February 28) that a pet dog had been tested weak positive to COVID-19 virus.

The AFCD received a referral from the Department of Health on February 26 that a dog of a patient infected with COVID-19 disease virus will be handed over to the AFCD. Staff of the AFCD picked up the dog from a residential flat at Tai Hang in the evening on the same day and sent the dog to the animal keeping facility at the Hong Kong Port of Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge. Oral, nasal and rectal samples were collected for testing of COVID-19 virus. The nasal and oral cavity samples were tested weak positive to COVID-19 virus. The dog does not have any relevant symptoms.

The above dog is the only dog under quarantine at animal keeping facility at the Hong Kong Port of Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge at the moment. There are no other animals using the said facility. Staff of the department will step up cleansing and disinfection of the animal keeping facility.

At present, the AFCD does not have evidence that pet animals can be infected with COVID-19 virus or can be a source of infection to people. The Department will conduct close monitoring of the above dog and collect further samples for testing to confirm if the dog has really been infected with the virus or this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose. Repeated tests will be conducted for the dog and it will only be returned when the test result is negative.

The spokesman said that to ensure public and animal health, the department strongly advise mammalian pets of patients confirmed to have been infected with COVID-19 virus to be put under quarantine by the AFCD. The pets will be delivered to the designated animal keeping facilities of the AFCD for quarantine and veterinary surveillance for 14 days. Samples will be collected for testing of COVID-19 virus as appropriate.

The spokesman reminded the pet owners to maintain a good habit of hygiene, and wash their hands thoroughly with soap or alcohol sanitiser after contacting pets. Pet owners shall wear masks while going out. If there are any changes in the health condition of the pets, advice from veterinarians should be sought as soon as possible.

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Coronavirus positives rose to 650 in Italy. Then there are three other deaths in Lombardy, all over 80 years old.



"Everything is normal, there is no problem in the red zone," said Borrelli. "The Department has made available and over 35 thousand masks are arriving in Emilia Romagna, Piedmont, Lombardy and Veneto".

(The head of the Civil Protection, Angelo Borrelli )
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Sounds like a huge number of masks...are these hospital use or is this general population use, I wonder?

If hospital use....35K across confirmed 650 patients would be roughly 54 masks per patient. Assume each patient gets a visit from a nurse twice per shift, plus 2 aid visits per shift. 4 masks used per each 8 hour shift, 3 shifts every 24 hours, 12 masks used every 24 hours.

Those 35,000 masks are GONE in ... less than five days.
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This is a Hong Kong gov't press release not subject to 50% rule:

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Detection of low level of COVID-19 virus in pet dog
*****************************************
A spokesman for the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) said today (February 28) that a pet dog had been tested weak positive to COVID-19 virus.

The AFCD received a referral from the Department of Health on February 26 that a dog of a patient infected with COVID-19 disease virus will be handed over to the AFCD. Staff of the AFCD picked up the dog from a residential flat at Tai Hang in the evening on the same day and sent the dog to the animal keeping facility at the Hong Kong Port of Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge. Oral, nasal and rectal samples were collected for testing of COVID-19 virus. The nasal and oral cavity samples were tested weak positive to COVID-19 virus. The dog does not have any relevant symptoms.

The above dog is the only dog under quarantine at animal keeping facility at the Hong Kong Port of Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge at the moment. There are no other animals using the said facility. Staff of the department will step up cleansing and disinfection of the animal keeping facility.

At present, the AFCD does not have evidence that pet animals can be infected with COVID-19 virus or can be a source of infection to people. The Department will conduct close monitoring of the above dog and collect further samples for testing to confirm if the dog has really been infected with the virus or this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose. Repeated tests will be conducted for the dog and it will only be returned when the test result is negative.

The spokesman said that to ensure public and animal health, the department strongly advise mammalian pets of patients confirmed to have been infected with COVID-19 virus to be put under quarantine by the AFCD. The pets will be delivered to the designated animal keeping facilities of the AFCD for quarantine and veterinary surveillance for 14 days. Samples will be collected for testing of COVID-19 virus as appropriate.

The spokesman reminded the pet owners to maintain a good habit of hygiene, and wash their hands thoroughly with soap or alcohol sanitiser after contacting pets. Pet owners shall wear masks while going out. If there are any changes in the health condition of the pets, advice from veterinarians should be sought as soon as possible.

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Between this and the Pope, I’m getting a real queasy feeling.





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