COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

I think this is it: [link to www.land.nrw (secure)]

The important part would be this: (less tha 50%):

Preliminary result: An existing immunity of approx. 14% (anti-SARS-CoV2 IgG positive, specificity of the method>, 99%) was determined. About 2% of the people had a current SARS-CoV-2 infection determined using the PCR method. The overall infection rate (current infection or already gone through) was approximately 15%. The mortality rate (case fatality rate) based on the total number of infected people in the community of Gangelt is approx. 0.37% with the preliminary data from this study. The lethality currently calculated by the Johns-Hopkins University in Germany is 1.98% and is 5 times higher. The mortality rate based on the total population in Gangelt is currently 0.06%.

Let’s say these results are good and can be extrapolated to other parts directly, it’s still 6 times worse than “The flu”.

Thanks, Pepe.

6x the flu is manageable.

My concerns are that a certain percentage of people who were infected had no antibodies. But, did they have antibodies immediately after infection and then the antibodies disappeared? Is that even possible? I thought I read somewhere that there is no guarantee that the antibodies will remain in the system.

No antibodies, no immunity.

I've been looking for references on drinking water chlorination and CV. Most of what I find is happy talk from the CDC that everything is fine.

What are your thoughts on this, Water?

We use a cistern on the ranch with 2 PPM Cl-. After that it goes through a carbon block filter and deionizer prior to use.

The water is fine. Chlorination still kills viruses. .09 mg/L is standard for safety after Chlorination and declorination has taken place for consumption.

Hope not. This is young peeps. I don’t know how to link FB so you can see the rash

I've debated about posting this. But those doctors, nurses, family and friends who I've talked to daily for the past 14 days have convinced me I should. This will be my last attempt at making people understand.

I want people to know what to expect if you get sick at home. Or your kid gets sick at home. In my case, it was both. Not all of you will have mild symptoms. This isn't just affecting elderly, immunocompromised people. We are neither elderly or immunocompromised.

This is some scary shit. I don't know how else to say it. I've been a nurse for 16 years, half of those years working in a hospital where I floated to ICU, CCU, and TCU frequently. A doctor at Children's that treated Cameron in the early stage of her illness, and the doctor that saw me via e-visit both said I'm lucky to have nursing skills right now. I couldn't agree more.
We both had the classic covid-19 symptoms - fever, shortness of breath, and cough.

Let me describe those to you. The fever lasted 7 days, that did not let up, despite medicine. Body aches like we've never had. Lots of crying. That was the easiest symptom to tolerate.

Shortness of breath - I had to carry Cameron to the bathroom. My healthy girl that wasn't even in the system at Children's hospital had to be helped 30 feet to the bathroom. That lasted 5 days. As for me, I couldn't breathe in general. Sometimes it got so bad that I had to go outside in the night air to feel like I was getting any air in at all. Devin followed me out to make sure I made it back inside. Talking more than a few words wasn't an option.

Cough- Propped up with 4 pillows, sitting straight up, I coughed so hard I vomited. More than once. I went through over 50 cough drops. It was worse at night. I slept a total of 4 hours over the 3 days that I had a cough. Luckily, Cameron only coughed 1 day.

I can't explain the thoughts that run through your head. Cameron showed symptoms 5 days before me. Countless times, I have thanked God that she became ill first, because I could care for her. What if it was the other way around? What if I wasn't waking her up every hour making her breathe deeply and listening to her lungs? What if I didn't have a pulse ox to monitor her oxygen level? When I got really bad myself, my own mother urged me to develop a plan with Cameron about what to do if she couldn't wake me up, or I couldn't breathe anymore, when to call 911. I talked to my baby girl about that. Think about that.

If you get sick like us, you won't likely be tested. We weren't. I posted my doctor's order below. A physician's order doesn't matter. Being an essential worker doesn't matter. Your fiance reporting daily to the hospital while you're symptomatic doesn't matter. The Ky Dept of Public Health said I didn't meet criteria because of my age. I spoke with them 3 times. I spoke with the covid hotline, 3 physician's, local health dept, DPH, 2 local hospitals and their labs. Hopefully Devin remains asymptomatic. For his health, and the health of the employees and patients where he works. I was sick for 4 days before I was able to speak with a doctor. Not my doctor, an evisit. It will likely be the same for you.

Recovering from this isn't like other illnesses. The pictures below show you what it can do to your immune system. That's where the rash comes in. Cameron's immune system fought so hard to recover that she has a rash that the doctor says could last for 2 weeks. Steroids are a no-no with what might be covid 19, so we do the best we can with Benadryl and wait. Today, I have been fever-free for 3 days. I still need to rest throughout the day and get short of breath, but I hardly notice those symptoms anymore because this is such an improvement to where we were a few days ago.

There's a lot more to this than people realise. You need to be ready. And if you haven't been sick YET, stay home.

NB - thanks for this thread, I really appreciate your updates and links, it has been an invaluable source of info for everyone since day one.

MiaB - I'm so very sorry to read this news, had no idea you all were ill and having such a rough time. Your story matches up with so many reports we read here, this virus is a monster. Did you try any of the supplements/herbal remedies/anti-virals that are working for some of the GLPers? Hope you continue to heal and get your immune systems back on track, sending up prayers for you and your family, stay strong! .

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Kentucky to record license plates of those attending services this weekend and require them to quarantine for 14 days

The state of Kentucky is taking new action to discourage individuals from participating in mass gatherings, such as church services, Gov. Andy Beshear announced Friday.

The state will be recording the license plates of those who show up to any mass gatherings and provide that information to the local health departments, who will in turn order those individuals to be quarantined for 14 days, according to Beshear.

Beshear said the state is down to less than seven churches state-wide that are still “thinking about” having an in-person service this weekend.

“Folks, we shouldn’t have to do this,” Beshear said. “I think it’s not a test of faith whether you’re going to an in-person service, it’s a test of faith that you’re willing to sacrifice to protect your fellow man, your fellow woman, your fellow Kentuckian, and your fellow American.”

This really smacks of authoritarianism.

When I lived in what was formerly the Soviet Union (after the fall of the wall) I was told that there was freedom of religion, of sorts, in the USSR. You could attend any services of the denominations approved by the State. That surprised me.

They also said there was a loyal Party member at the entrance, recording the names of those attending.

Those who attended could face sanction by the State, or lose their Party status. And their sweet job.

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SARS-CoV-2 infects T lymphocytes through its spike protein-mediated membrane fusion

Therefore, it can be concluded that SARS-CoV-2 might infect T cells through S protein-mediated membrane fusion.

Dr. Jacob Glanville
@CurlyJungleJake
Well this is bad. Some weeks ago I voiced concerns that COVID-19 patients had very low T-cells. The disease had many features indicating immunosuppression (clearance failure, wide onset variation, demographics of disease, etc).

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Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
Warning sign
ATTACKS IMMUNE SYSTEM. Not good at all - a new study indicates that #SARS_CoV2 (virus that causes #COVID19), besides binding ACE2 receptor... also attacks your T cells and hence your immune system, leading to immunosuppression.

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Has anybody seen any studies on how long SARS2 lives on human skin?

If I touch an infected door knob, how long is that hand dangerous?

I don't recall seeing anything like that.

Sobering hints that build up to confirm what has been suspected for quite a while now and many still refuse to even consider as possible.

Thanks for sharing this Nawtybits.

What HIV??

My daughter said the nurses at her hospital says the STAH order could go through september

I have read several hours to 3 days like everthing else with this cirus they dont know

What HIV??

My daughter said the nurses at her hospital says the STAH order could go through september

Sobering hints that build up to confirm what has been suspected for quite a while now and many still refuse to even consider as possible.

Thanks for sharing this Nawtybits.