COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

This sounds to me like they are trying to get out ahead of some damage control on this for when they can't hide the numbers anymore and have to explain why they weren't truthful with their daily updates and reporting!!

Unfortunately that was the only paragraph in the article about her. The rest was other cov stuff.

Yeah I know- sorry- I guess I don’t even understand why the article was even written! There has to be more to it, because every person with the flu or a cold has Coronavirus symptoms. It’s just odd....

60 more cases on board the Diamond Princess bringing the total to over 130


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in our little home town there have been many people confirmed with both a&b flu also seems way more people are infected than years past so I went to look at statistics for past and found this...
"Influenza A viruses visible generally during the wake of spring and winter. However, influenza B can be visible at any time of the year. As such, it is possible to have both at the same time though its rare and perplexing"

perplexing, lol, exactly where my mind is

h/t kiwibird

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Virus symptoms 'can take nearly a month to show'

Reports in China suggest the virus' incubation period might actually be 24 days - 10 days longer than previously thought.

Research by leading expert Zhong Nanshan in China suggests symptoms show on average after three days, but can take as long as 24 days.


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Incubation period up to 24 days

The research paper was titled "Clinical Features of New Type Coronavirus Infection in China in 2019". Corresponding authors were Zhong Nanshan, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital, and the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

The study extracted data from 1099 laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV ARD (2019 new coronavirus-induced acute respiratory diseases) patients from 552 hospitals in 31 provinces / cities. The data are as of January 29, 2020.

The study showed that the median age of 1099 cases included in the study was 47 years, and women accounted for 41.9%. Patients covered the entire age group, 0.9% of patients were under 15 years old. 2.09% were medical staff.

Studies have shown that the median incubation period for neocoronavirus infection is 3 days (range 0 to 24 days), which is shorter than the recent report on 425 patients (5.2 days). The discovery provided evidence through a larger sample size that could guide quarantine of close contacts.

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Zhong Nanshan, a member of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, published his first research paper on the new coronavirus on the professional academic website Medrxiv on February 9. With the largest sample size of more than a thousand patients (1099) to date, Zhong Nanshan's team reached several key conclusions that refreshed people's understanding of the new coronavirus.

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However, from the 1099 patients diagnosed in many places, the incubation period can be as long as 24 days and as short as 0 days.

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People gone mad bro here in Singapore.

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Probably because of this "calming" video from the Singapore Prime MInister.

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What is the average infectious period? I searched around and can't find anything definitive.

From the second link above:

The median incubation period of the virus was 3 days;

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7:42 pm Feb 10

As Monday marked the first day of work resumption amid the coronavirus outbreak, the central working group on prevention & control urged local authorities to coordinate necessities and work on issues impeding work resumption.

7:30 pm Feb 10

The incubation period for the coronavirus could be longer than expected: a patient in Central China's Henan, with no symptoms for 17 days, was diagnosed as an infected patient.

6:46 pm Feb 10

Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, inspected the Beijing Ditan Hospital, a designated institution treating the novel coronavirus pneumonia, on Monday afternoon.


5:41 pm Feb 10

The incubation period for people infected with nCoV could reach up to 24 days, states an academic paper published by renowned Chinese respiratory expert Zhong Nanshan. Previously, the longest incubation period was believed to be 14 days. NCP

3:30 pm Feb 10

Progress in the treatment of coronavirus patients: National Health Commission said Monday the nationwide recovery rate reached 8.2 percent following accelerated efforts at containing and fighting the contagious disease

2:47 pm Feb 10

Three more passengers on a flight from France to #Shanghai were diagnosed with the coronavirus after 2 cases on the same flight was confirmed on Jan 30 and Feb 1. 29 people having close contacts with the patients were quarantined: Shanghai health authority

1:53 pm Feb 10

The incubation period for people infected with nCoV could reach up to 24 days, states an academic paper published by renowned Chinese respiratory expert Zhong Nanshan. Previously, the longest incubation period was believed to be 14 days.

1:52 pm Feb 10

At least 60 more confirmed cases of novel coronavirus infection were reported on quarantined Diamond Princess, taking the total number to 130

11:09 am Feb 10

No confirmed case of coronavirus infection in SW China's Tibet Autonomous Region for 11 consecutive days. The only infected patient has already been discharged from hospital after recovery.

Link to the study:

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(This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.)

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h/t michael coston

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From the HK Director of the Food and Health Bureau

Chen Zhaoshi pointed out that the next two weeks is a critical time to fight the epidemic, the public should further reduce social activities, strongly advised theatres, karaoke, cram schools, interest groups, clubs and other places gathered to suspend business, to minimize the risk of transmission of viruses.


My comment: Social distancing.



From the blog:

Although we are likely weeks (perhaps even months) behind Hong Kong, Singapore, and Macao in having to deal with the the novel coronavirus, it isn't too soon to be thinking about the things you will either want or need, if you and your family find yourself sitting at home and avoiding crowds.

Now - when store shelves are full and prices are low - is the time to stock up on items you will need for a pandemic. . . or any other disaster.

And this isn't just me saying it. This is the standing advice from Ready.gov.


Comment: I agree we are weeks behind HK; there is time to get ready. Do not wait until the last minute. Please.

I've said a few times before, that HK is the place I'm watching. They might give us an indication of how the rest of the 1st world countries may go. Although they are only recommending Social Distancing, how long until it's ordered? HKers are being walked in to shutting things down. This step tells me that they are scared enough of this virus to begin steps that will harm the economy, and that business is a lower priority than public health. That's very telling.

The million dollar question: are they too late?

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The #coronavirus epidemic constitutes a "force majeure" and companies that cannot fulfil their contractual obligations due to such circumstances can be exempted from partial or full liability, except as otherwise required by the law: China's top legislature

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Stating the obvious I know, but this means present 14 days is allowing people back into society infected. What % do you think?

I have no idea.

But, even 1 person going about his/her daily life thinking that they are cleared because they passed the 14 days is a problem.

I wonder if they are going to go back and contact those previous close contacts they already cleared.

Ungood.

Great research articles, OP!

I think the person above was questioning the length of time one with exposure to nCov would be shedding the virus (infectivity time) not how long for symptoms.

Now I have seen things that indicate that after recovery a person still sheds the virus, but no statements about the length of time after recovery that shedding continues.

All I have seen is that the average time to begin shedding is about 5 days.

And to answer the query about "not peer reviewed" it means it hasn't been checked and double checked by others in the field and given the stamp of approval. It can't be because there just isn't the time or the actual knowledge base as from all info available, the virus is still quickly mutating, so no way to nail it all down yet.

Ungood: unˈgood, a. Now rare.

[OE. ungód (un-1 7), = MDu. ongoet (older Du. ongoed), MLG. ungût (LG. ungôd), OHG., MHG. unguot (G. ungut), ON. úgóðr (Norw. dial. ugod).]

a.a Not good; evil, bad; wicked.

   c 1000 Sax. Leechd. III. 184 Seldan he bið eald, ungodan deaðe he swylt.    Ibid. 188.    c 1200 Ormin 16739 Forrþi þatt teȝȝre dede iss all Unngod & all unnclene.    Ibid. 17056.    a 1300 E.E. Psalter i. 1 In strete of sinfulle noght he stode, Ne sat in setel of storme un-gode.    c 1305 Judas Iscariot 22 in E.E.P. (1862) 107 Loþ hem was‥a bern to norischie, so liþer and vngod.    1390 Gower Conf. I. 20 The vice of hem that ben ungoode Is no reproef unto the goode.    c 1445 Pecock Donet 37 Þat þing whiche resoun knowiþ‥to be bad, or vngood.    c 1485 Digby Myst. (1882) iv. 675 His synows‥Are brokyn sonder by payns vngude!

(b) In mod. use.

   1904 C. N. & A. M. Williamson Princess Passes xii, You have been so good to us; don't be ungood now.    1949 ‘G. Orwell’ Nineteen Eighty-Four i. 53 If you have a word like ‘good’, what need is there for a word like ‘bad’? ‘Ungood’ will do just as well—better, because it's an exact opposite, which the other is not.    1964 W. Golding Spire viii. 150 Jocelin found the capstone ungood to look at.

b.b absol. or as n.

   a 1250 Owl & Night. 129 Al so hit is þi þan vngode Þat is icumen of fule brode.    Ibid. 1364 Vor nys a worlde þing so god Þat ne may do sum vngod.    a 1568 in Bannatyne MS. (Hunter. Cl.) 203/86 Vngud and gud sall fair,‥Bot richteous gud‥lestis for euir mair.    1885 L. Oliphant Sympneumata 248 For universal good, and for suppression of the ungood.

Helen Branswell
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#2019nCoV: Singapore reports +2 cases, bringing confirmed cases to 44.
23 of the cases were infected in Singapore. Of those, authorities are still trying to figure out how 8 became infected.

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Thanks.

The not peer reviewed comment was in the text of the study, I just copied it over so people knew that the study hasn't been vetted by the science community yet. I should have take it out. :-)

As for viral shedding, that would begin as soon as the virus has created a large enough viral load. When symptoms begin, you can shed, for sure. Symptoms begin in as little as one day, so some will shed almost immediately. For those that don't develop symptoms for a week or two (or 3) shedding would depend on how active the virus is in the host. 5 days is reasonable, although I haven't seen that officially, but it stands to reason the host would need to few days to have enough viruses to shed. Does that make sense? My words seem to ramble there. Sorry.

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A cleaning worker who had worked on 20 bullet trains, was confirmed infected with the novel #coronavirus pneumonia. Authorities released her travel routes and warned potential contacts to stay home for medical observation.

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I think that people going back to work in parts of China today is a big mistake. They've just kicked the can a week or 2 down the road. They don't have a handle on it, and now the ones who stayed home unexposed are back on the streets, doing street things.

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Starting from Monday, Chinese people resumed their regular work-life after an extended holiday following the #NCP outbreak. On the subway, people wear various protective gear and roads were bustling with vehicles, as the city strides to life.

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Bwaaahaaa....following?!?

Hurray! The outbreak is over in China!

ugh

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#Opinion: Secessionist forces within Taiwan view the #coronavirus epidemic as a "golden opportunity" for Taiwan to join the WHO. They have misjudged the situation and are doomed to fail.

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I'd be nervous right now, if I were Taiwan.

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Following the combat readiness patrol on Sun, Chinese People's Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command conducted joint drills in the southeastern waters of the island of Taiwan on Mon, including air-to-land assault and fire support subjects: Eastern Theater Command spokesperson

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The statistics published by the Scottish Government on Monday afternoon show 57 people in Scotland have been tested and all returned negative results.

New US numbers from the CDC

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12 +

318 - was 225 on friday

68 pending was 100 on friday

398 total tested was 337 on friday


Number of states and territories with PUI: 37

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St Mary's Independent School in Southampton UK closed and evacuated over coronavirus fears. [link to www.dailyecho.co.uk (secure)]

Does anyone know where to find the current confirmed # of infections outside of China? Looking for latest total...

The Echo reported a statement sent to parents from headteacher Claire Charlemagne said: “I am sorry to inform you that a family with children at the prep and senior departments who have recently travelled to the region affected by coronavirus have developed symptoms similar to those presenting with the coronavirus, and having been checked by medical professionals at Southampton General Hospital have been placed in isolation.”

The Echo reported a statement sent to parents from headteacher Claire Charlemagne said: “I am sorry to inform you that a family with children at the prep and senior departments who have recently traveled to the region affected by corona-virus have developed symptoms similar to those presenting with the corona-virus, and having been checked by medical professionals at Southampton General Hospital have been placed in isolation.”