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JazzyG
(OP)Forum Administrator  User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 02:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 G-d spare me from overzealous, ignorant christians who refuse to hear anything but their own voices shouting baseless condemnations of things they do not want to understand. Quoting: JazzyG There's a lot of them, Jazzy.  And they're getting more hateful every day it seems. Thanks T_O_M  To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 68734466 United States03/15/2016 02:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 G-d spare me from overzealous, ignorant christians who refuse to hear anything but their own voices shouting baseless condemnations of things they do not want to understand. Quoting: JazzyG There's a lot of them, Jazzy. And they're getting more hateful every day it seems. Thanks T_O_M The few give the many a bad name. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| daughter in NYC
User ID: 70665032 United States03/15/2016 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 G-d spare me from overzealous, ignorant christians who refuse to hear anything but their own voices shouting baseless condemnations of things they do not want to understand. Quoting: JazzyG There's a lot of them, Jazzy. And they're getting more hateful every day it seems. Thanks T_O_M The few give the many a bad name. Amen to that... satan has had a seat at many a table daughter in NYC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66340894 United States03/15/2016 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 G-d spare me from overzealous, ignorant christians who refuse to hear anything but their own voices shouting baseless condemnations of things they do not want to understand. Quoting: JazzyG There's a lot of them, Jazzy. And they're getting more hateful every day it seems. Thanks T_O_M The few give the many a bad name. I don't want to sound like a dick - you all know I'm not that kind of person. But since moving to the States I've met many Christians and far more than I expected have turned out to be pretty bad people. I wouldn't say the majority, but still a sizable percentage. I've gone to many churches and each one has a large contingent of people who just seem to be completely unaware of even the basic principles of their religion. And I'm not talking politically here - I mean in terms of their habits and actions and choices. Just some anecdotal evidence. I'm equally prepared to defend the majority and say that they're some of the most decent, down to earth, moral people I've ever met. |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 The few give the many a bad name. I don't want to sound like a dick - you all know I'm not that kind of person. But since moving to the States I've met many Christians and far more than I expected have turned out to be pretty bad people. I wouldn't say the majority, but still a sizable percentage. I've gone to many churches and each one has a large contingent of people who just seem to be completely unaware of even the basic principles of their religion. And I'm not talking politically here - I mean in terms of their habits and actions and choices. Just some anecdotal evidence. I'm equally prepared to defend the majority and say that they're some of the most decent, down to earth, moral people I've ever met. I have to agree T_O_M. While I have met and am friends with many a kind and loving christian, I've come across more that would just as soon spit in my face than acknowledge I breathe the same air they do. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 03/15/2016 02:54 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68370886 United States03/15/2016 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 68734466 United States03/15/2016 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 I don't want to sound like a dick - you all know I'm not that kind of person. But since moving to the States I've met many Christians and far more than I expected have turned out to be pretty bad people. I wouldn't say the majority, but still a sizable percentage. I've gone to many churches and each one has a large contingent of people who just seem to be completely unaware of even the basic principles of their religion. And I'm not talking politically here - I mean in terms of their habits and actions and choices. Just some anecdotal evidence. I'm equally prepared to defend the majority and say that they're some of the most decent, down to earth, moral people I've ever met. I have to agree T_O_M. While I have met and am friends with many a kind and loving christian, I've come across more that would just as soon spit in my face than acknowledge I breathe the same air they do. You will know them by their fruit. Matthew 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. I have known many like this. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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| tym2j
User ID: 69518186 United States03/15/2016 03:08 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. |
| NobleSix
User ID: 62524796 United States03/15/2016 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. That's beyond messed up. Hypocrites and I am Christian myself and I don't agree with that. It's all so politicized and made to be a fame thing in my book. NobleSix “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” - Mahatma Gandhi "Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass "The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge "Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05 "Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off." "These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo "Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men." -Firebrand Central |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. The one I visited was a perfect example of that. They weren't mean to the man. They were kind enough to give him the address of a free store which was all the way downtown (20 miles), where he could 'get some better clothing for nothing. And do be sure and come back next week! We'd love to have you!' The man was dressed in stained but clean khaki slacks, tennis shoes and a suit coat with no shirt. He even removed his baseball cap as he walked up the sidewalk. It made me sick. By the time I got into the chapel, retrieved my family and got back out to the parking lot, he was nowhere to be found. He had to have gotten a ride to take him specifically to that church. There's no other way he could have disappeared that quickly. Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 03/15/2016 03:19 PM To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68370886 United States03/15/2016 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. I have never heard it described better. We contacted a craigslist ad back at Christmas. A mom looking for a little bit of holiday food. ALL of the food banks at local churches were closed Christmas week. That told me everything I needed to know. |
| tym2j
User ID: 69518186 United States03/15/2016 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. The one I visited was a perfect example of that. They weren't mean to the man. They were kind enough to give him the address of a free store which was all the way downtown (20 miles), where he could 'get some better clothing for nothing. And do be sure and come back next week! We'd love to have you!' The man was dressed in stained but clean khaki slacks, tennis shoes and a suit coat with no shirt. He even removed his baseball cap as he walked up the sidewalk. It made me sick. By the time I got into the chapel, retrieved my family and got back out to the parking lot, he was nowhere to be found. He had to have gotten a ride to take him specifically to that church. There's no other way he could have disappeared that quickly. Ten years ago I was very sick and as such could not work. My extended family, who are all devout Christians, offered to have their 'church' assist me with buying groceries, etc. The catch was I had to provide the 'church' with all my bank records to prove to them I was responsible enough to receive their 'charity' which amounted to a $50.00 grocery card. I told them to pound sand and go to where the sun doesn't shine! So utterly fake! |
| Cap'n Slick
User ID: 35716258  Canada03/15/2016 03:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Ukraine, Turkey May Forge Anti-Russian Alliance in Black Sea Quoting: JazzyG Russia, a common enemy since recently, has prompted Turkey and Ukraine, the big neighbors across the Black Sea, to step up political, economic and military ties. Bilateral contacts have been particularly intensive this year. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu flew to Kyiv in February, followed by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko’s visit to Turkey in March. Both announced ambitious plans (Hurriyet Daily News, March 9). However, it is hard to predict for the moment how far-reaching this cooperation will be, given the wealth and influence gaps between the two countries and the difficult recent history of Turkish-Ukrainian relations. [link to www.jamestown.org] This will not be popular with those suffering depilation living under bridges. Any chance the so called pull back is related to this? Cap'n Slick |
| tym2j
User ID: 69518186 United States03/15/2016 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. I have never heard it described better. We contacted a craigslist ad back at Christmas. A mom looking for a little bit of holiday food. ALL of the food banks at local churches were closed Christmas week. That told me everything I needed to know. Thanks for the green Gomez...very kind of you!! :) Its very sad to see these days that helping people in need is relegated to "how will this effect our profits this quarter?" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66340894 United States03/15/2016 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. That's a good summation, so long as it isn't taken too literally. My wife has stopped attending church. She discovered the possibility of approaching the text without the mediation of church and pastor, and the scope for new appreciation that comes from spending time serious time studying the text. |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. I have never heard it described better. We contacted a craigslist ad back at Christmas. A mom looking for a little bit of holiday food. ALL of the food banks at local churches were closed Christmas week. That told me everything I needed to know. Wow. My mama used to say: The devil isn't found in the bars and the brothels. He's already got those people. He can be found in the pews and pulpits, where they welcome him with open arms. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 To be fair, I've also been in some orthodox shuls that would run me out the door if they knew I follow Y'shua, but I've never seen one turn away anybody in need. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| tym2j
User ID: 69518186 United States03/15/2016 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 To be fair, I've also been in some orthodox shuls that would run me out the door if they knew I follow Y'shua, but I've never seen one turn away anybody in need. Quoting: JazzyG Oh yes, I have been run out of them as well all because of Y'Shua...and some were NOT nice about it at all...so yes it is on both sides of the road so to speak. |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 To be fair, I've also been in some orthodox shuls that would run me out the door if they knew I follow Y'shua, but I've never seen one turn away anybody in need. Quoting: JazzyG Oh yes, I have been run out of them as well all because of Y'Shua...and some were NOT nice about it at all...so yes it is on both sides of the road so to speak. So few get it  To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Mycroft3
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70452331 United States03/15/2016 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 the battle in the Christian faith that you talk about starts already at the beginning of it foundation nothing has changed there has never been a pure form of the Christian faith it was garbled at the start. From a Jewish sect that flowed out of a very rich Jewish tradition that split and fractured from it very foundation. there really has never been a one true Christian Faith. The Christian started out profoundly Jewish and for many decades was entirely Jewish in its thoughts practices and beliefs until Saul or Paul got a hold of it and completely Hellenized it. But without Paul "The Way" and then Christianity would have either stayed a small Jewish sect within Judaism or completely disappeared. But Paul did profoundly change this faith and ripped it from it purely Jewish identity and changed it into it gentile form you can see this in the Gospels and in Paul's Writings. |
| Mycroft3
User ID: 22599379 United States03/15/2016 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Unfortunately around here church is more of a social and status symbol than anything else. And, endless opportunity for the fortunate to look down their noses at the less fortunate, supposedly in the name of charity. It's the attitude behind the little bit of giving that gets to me. Quoting: Gomez The last time I visited a church, they turned away a homeless black man because they said he wasn't dressed good enough. Needless to say, that's why it was the last time. "Christianity started out in Israel as a fellowship, it moved to Greece and became philosophy, it moved to Italy and became an institution, it moved to Europe and became a culture and then it moved to America where it became a business." Most churches today are built as a business model with the pastor as the CEO whose goal is to shake down its followers for as much cash as possible and then laugh all the way to retirement. Its as fake as a three dollar bill. I totally and wholeheartedly agree. I've known some truly decent church goers and some pretty messed up ones. I will say that as a kid, my experience was that the preachers' kids were the least honest, highly manipulative, and downright criminal. |
| daughter in NYC
User ID: 70665032 United States03/15/2016 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 he has infiltrated and is about to take command of the 'church of the apostasy'... only the TRUE remnant will not be deceived, but will probably pay with our lives. The Lord is not mocked, He will repay. The best I can do is forgive, for many really do NOT know what they do.......... PEACE on Jerusalem! daughter in NYC |
| Earth Cries
User ID: 68734466 United States03/15/2016 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. That is the definition of pure religion. Last Edited by Earth Cries on 03/15/2016 04:24 PM Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States03/15/2016 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 the battle in the Christian faith that you talk about Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box starts already at the beginning of it foundation nothing has changed there has never been a pure form of the Christian faith it was garbled at the start. From a Jewish sect that flowed out of a very rich Jewish tradition that split and fractured from it very foundation. there really has never been a one true Christian Faith. The Christian started out profoundly Jewish and for many decades was entirely Jewish in its thoughts practices and beliefs until Saul or Paul got a hold of it and completely Hellenized it. But without Paul "The Way" and then Christianity would have either stayed a small Jewish sect within Judaism or completely disappeared. But Paul did profoundly change this faith and ripped it from it purely Jewish identity and changed it into it gentile form you can see this in the Gospels and in Paul's Writings. Actually, when read from a Hebraic perspective, Sha'ul didn't say anything that was out of the way. He was a Pharisee. A teacher of Torah teachers and he knew the law better than anyone. It was this wisdom that often led to his writings to be misconstrued. G-d gave the oral Torah to man, who blashphemed it. He then gave man the written Torah, who corrupted it. He finally gave man the living Torah, who crucified it. 'I come only for the lost sheep of Y'israel'....'to the Jew first.' G-d gave the Torah to the Jew, who was supposed to be the teacher to the Gentile. But the Jews refused this task and kept it only for themselves, which is why they rejected Y'shua as a blasphemer. Christians took the Torah but refused the Jewish teachers because 'they killed jesus'. Neither know the True Mosiach because neither accepts the other half...the two shall become one. He will reveal himself to BOTH at his return. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70452331 United States03/15/2016 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Nathan J Hunt Retweeted China Xinhua News ‏@XHNews · Mar 14 #BREAKING : India successfully test-fires nuclear capable Agni I ballistic missile (Web pic) you get the Feeling the missile our going to fly. DPRK USA Russia China Iran in the last 2 weeks have ALL Test Fired Nuclear Capable Ballistic Missiles. |
| daughter in NYC
User ID: 70665032 United States03/15/2016 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 the battle in the Christian faith that you talk about Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box starts already at the beginning of it foundation nothing has changed there has never been a pure form of the Christian faith it was garbled at the start. From a Jewish sect that flowed out of a very rich Jewish tradition that split and fractured from it very foundation. there really has never been a one true Christian Faith. The Christian started out profoundly Jewish and for many decades was entirely Jewish in its thoughts practices and beliefs until Saul or Paul got a hold of it and completely Hellenized it. But without Paul "The Way" and then Christianity would have either stayed a small Jewish sect within Judaism or completely disappeared. But Paul did profoundly change this faith and ripped it from it purely Jewish identity and changed it into it gentile form you can see this in the Gospels and in Paul's Writings. Actually, when read from a Hebraic perspective, Sha'ul didn't say anything that was out of the way. He was a Pharisee. A teacher of Torah teachers and he knew the law better than anyone. It was this wisdom that often led to his writings to be misconstrued. G-d gave the oral Torah to man, who blashphemed it. He then gave man the written Torah, who corrupted it. He finally gave man the living Torah, who crucified it. 'I come only for the lost sheep of Y'israel'....'to the Jew first.' G-d gave the Torah to the Jew, who was supposed to be the teacher to the Gentile. But the Jews refused this task and kept it only for themselves, which is why they rejected Y'shua as a blasphemer. Christians took the Torah but refused the Jewish teachers because 'they killed jesus'. Neither know the True Mosiach because neither accepts the other half...the two shall become one. He will reveal himself to BOTH at his return. I think that the Jewish people won't be the only ones to weep and mourn for His revelation... Many a Christian will see their Messiah IS Jewish!!  daughter in NYC |
