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The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420

 
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Syria gas attack: Russia deflects at UN Security Council

[link to www.foxnews.com]


No vote, meeting adjourned.

BUT, Haley made it plain: "When the United Nations consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times in the life of states that we are compelled to take our own action. For the sake of the victims, I hope the rest of the council is finally willing to do the same."

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US/UK rejected outright Russian/Syrian claims that Syrian planes bombed a rebel chemical weapons factory and that the rebels are solely responsible for the deaths.

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Haley slams Russia over Syrian chemical attack, warns US may take 'our own action'

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Trump: Syria's Assad ‘crossed a lot of lines’ with gas attack

President Trump said Wednesday that he was moved by reports of a deadly gas attack in Syria carried out by forces loyal to Bashar Assad, adding that the Syrian leader had “crossed a lot of lines.”

“It crossed a lot of lines for me,” Trump said at a press conference with Jordanian King Abdullah at the White House. “When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, little babies with a chemical gas that is so lethal that people were shocked to hear what gas it was, that crosses many lines beyond the red line. Many, many lines.”

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I got this feeling that something very bad is about to come Syria's way over this.
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Well from listening to the King of Jordan at the press conference it seems Trump and the King talk about this very
matter and the King is on board with what ever action the POTUS TAKES but it seems the action well not be just Syria ?

It Seems the Whole of the ME is involved.
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Arrrghhh!! Me hearty lass! *Strange and deranged Buccaneer talk*

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 Quoting: Noble Six


Morning Noble. How goes the grind today?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Quiet thus far, Jazzy. The sky's looking weird and the feeling is not good overall, yet it looks like a common day to the many out there. So far, so good on my part.

Et tu?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Been disturbed by the way the sky looks today, too, Noble. It's sunny, but still seems to be a darkness...hard to explain.
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Hey Janey how likely is a US attack on Assad?
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Im going 80% in favour right now
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Hey Janey how likely is a US attack on Assad?
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Im going 80% in favour right now
 Quoting: Janey


just gonna pull that out your ass and make a wild guess?

what could you possibly be basing that number off of?

the polling you did of the people in the pentagon?
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actually a couple of pentagon people, a fair number of UK military and a middle east diplomat who all gave off the record views helped me form an opinion
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Well that kind of says it all Passover is just 5 days away.

Korea and Syria our on the Front Burner coming to a FULL BOIL.
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Serious what our the Odds of GLP being on-line if War in

Syria and Korea break out. Will The Government just pull the

plug and Black every thing out. Because I can't believe once

this starts only Conventional Weapons well be put in play

I expect Multiple WMD well been in use has a response


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BREAKING: Secretary of State Tillerson says it is time for Russia to think carefully about its support for Assad's regime - Rooters
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Sec. Tillerson: "No doubt in our minds" that the Assad regime "is responsible for this horrific" chemical attack
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North Korean missile launch was a Scud-ER (a.k.a. Hwasong-7, liquid fueled), not KN-15 (Pukguksong-2, solid fuel).
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Arrrghhh!! Me hearty lass! *Strange and deranged Buccaneer talk*

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 Quoting: Noble Six


Morning Noble. How goes the grind today?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Quiet thus far, Jazzy. The sky's looking weird and the feeling is not good overall, yet it looks like a common day to the many out there. So far, so good on my part.

Et tu?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Been disturbed by the way the sky looks today, too, Noble. It's sunny, but still seems to be a darkness...hard to explain.
 Quoting: Earth Cries


It means a terrible reckoning is coming in my book, EC.
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Morning Noble. How goes the grind today?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Quiet thus far, Jazzy. The sky's looking weird and the feeling is not good overall, yet it looks like a common day to the many out there. So far, so good on my part.

Et tu?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Been disturbed by the way the sky looks today, too, Noble. It's sunny, but still seems to be a darkness...hard to explain.
 Quoting: Earth Cries


It means a terrible reckoning is coming in my book, EC.
 Quoting: Noble Six


Yep it's coming, my friend. Won't be long either.
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Destruction of this way of life, perhaps I should go to Costco and buy me some more supplies in case the local herd of living meat fridge are killed off by other hungry souls.


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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
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Nope
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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
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Nope
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
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I expect the nuke test tonight or tomorrow
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Japan PM Abe says he, Trump agree North Korea missile launch a 'serious threat'
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Albright: "IAEA not able to verify absence of undeclared nuclear activities in Iran"
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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
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Nope
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
 Quoting: Noble Six


I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.

our any RF Surfaces Forces Sorting ?
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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
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Nope
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
 Quoting: Noble Six


I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.
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Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
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Nope
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USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
 Quoting: Noble Six


I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
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S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
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USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
 Quoting: Noble Six


I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


am fairly certain our boys and girls haven't been sitting in their asses and have been coming up with ways to beat it.
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I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Does not matter Jazzy this scenario has been War Gamed a lot it usually leads to RF resorting to small tactical naval nuclear weapons.

Trump can't afford to do a Bill Clinton and send a few CM over he well have to go in Hard and Heavy and the RF Does not have the conventional or tech fire power to response with so they well resort to small Tac nukes.
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Any new info on the ongoing air strikes in Syria?
 Quoting: Earth Cries


Nope
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


USN assets are on the move in the Med Sea. That's all I know. Sounds like positioning for surface to sea to land strikes.
 Quoting: Noble Six


I would expect Putin to give one last warning that the S-400

our locked and loaded and ready to go Hot if the need

arises. Putin well not sit back.

our any RF Surfaces Forces Sorting ?
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Unknown at this time.
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"Socialists destroy the economy piece by piece, but Fascists step in during the chaos and kill the host." - The GoldenJackass


"The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge

"Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05

"Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off."

"These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo

"Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men."

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Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


am fairly certain our boys and girls haven't been sitting in their asses and have been coming up with ways to beat it.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


Targets are being softened as we speak.
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Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Does not matter Jazzy this scenario has been War Gamed a lot it usually leads to RF resorting to small tactical naval nuclear weapons.

Trump can't afford to do a Bill Clinton and send a few CM over he well have to go in Hard and Heavy and the RF Does not have the conventional or tech fire power to response with so they well resort to small Tac nukes.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Mind you all, that is predicated on the notion the U.S. intends to hit both Syrian and R.F. assets. I do not believe POTUS intends to hit any R.F. assets inside Syria. It does not go with his line of wanting to be peaceful with Russia. It runs totally counter to that logic, but Assad on the other hand, all bets are off. The hope would be that zero R.F. personnel would be present at any of the preset targets.

Because if any R.F. personnel are lost due to U.S. military actions, there will be a Russian response to such loss. They cannot allow such a thing to go unanswered and/or unpunished.
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"The lessons that we learn are written on the tombstones of others." - Reid Henrichs - Valor Ridge

"Marcus. Never end the fight!" - Lt.Mike "Murph" Murphy USN SEAL - Team Leader of Spartan 01 - Operation Red Wings 06/28/05

"Why don't you go preach that in all those wealthy Arab countries who are taking zero refugees, pope? Oh, right. Because preaching, at all, over there, will get your head cut off."

"These people aren't fleeing oppression. They're spreading it." - Revbo

"Your comment is not only illogical; it promotes a double standard that tells women they can act without accountability. That's not #Equality: that's #Impunity. Congratulations to you for advocating sexism against men."

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Doesn't mean much against a volley of cruise missiles
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


am fairly certain our boys and girls haven't been sitting in their asses and have been coming up with ways to beat it.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


I'm certainly no expert here, but I have Google and two mostly-functional eyeballs. I'm looking at a picture of an S-400 battery, and it carries eight missiles. Seems, to me, we could lob nine Tomahawks for each battery, and take every one of them out. Someone with more knowledge tell me where I'm wrong.
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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
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S-400 our good against CM even multiple launches and if the

USA launches do ASCM get launch in retaliation by the RF
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


You don't honestly think the US is sending shit in alone do ya Zombie?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Does not matter Jazzy this scenario has been War Gamed a lot it usually leads to RF resorting to small tactical naval nuclear weapons.

Trump can't afford to do a Bill Clinton and send a few CM over he well have to go in Hard and Heavy and the RF Does not have the conventional or tech fire power to response with so they well resort to small Tac nukes.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Mind you all, that is predicated on the notion the U.S. intends to hit both Syrian and R.F. assets. I do not believe POTUS intends to hit any R.F. assets inside Syria. It does not go with his line of wanting to be peaceful with Russia. It runs totally counter to that logic, but Assad on the other hand, all bets are off. The hope would be that zero R.F. personnel would be present at any of the preset targets.

Because if any R.F. personnel are lost due to U.S. military actions, there will be a Russian response to such loss. They cannot allow such a thing to go unanswered and/or unpunished.
 Quoting: Noble Six


Noble I agree that the USA and NATO don't wish to target RF assets but Putin can't sit back a be a punching bag else it well be a lose of Face and Great show of Weakness and Putin cant let that happen specially in the ME where Strength is respected and weakness is torn apart.





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