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The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420

 
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Iran is a pot that has been boiling since the late 70's. When it blows the top off, it's going to begin the prophesied war of all wars and no country will be exempt.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


I agree.

People don't understand how close we came to ww3 last night.

It still may all blow up in our face anyway.
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Iran isnt in a position to make demands.
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Iran is a pot that has been boiling since the late 70's. When it blows the top off, it's going to begin the prophesied war of all wars and no country will be exempt.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


I agree.

People don't understand how close we came to ww3 last night.

It still may all blow up in our face anyway.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


We know it will. It's right at the cusp now.

It's just a matter of who will be the one He uses to take that last step.

All in His timing.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

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I think that if this were done for political reasons for re-election it would be really poor form. I don't see how this doesn't politically hurt him, he looks petulant with his response and impotent with his lack of conviction changing his mind minutes before action. I want to see him pull out of this mess without losing his re-election but his best action was to stay the course and not put himself between the path that lies ahead. I cannot see how the UN is going to resolve this, and I do not understand why if we weren't headed towards war footing in the first place that we'd put a 200 million dollar drone 20 miles offshore from this country. We're being aggressive, now it looks like we got caught with our pants down. Not a good look for anyone.
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Iran isnt in a position to make demands.
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By itself, no.

But everyone has friends.

The enemy of my enemy....

And the US is the enemy to many right now.
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
Iran is a pot that has been boiling since the late 70's. When it blows the top off, it's going to begin the prophesied war of all wars and no country will be exempt.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


I agree.

People don't understand how close we came to ww3 last night.

It still may all blow up in our face anyway.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


We know it will. It's right at the cusp now.

It's just a matter of who will be the one He uses to take that last step.

All in His timing.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


You are right.

What was written must come to pass.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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He’s coming ever so close to losing my vote...I won’t vote democrat either but he is naive about the danger Iran poses. This situation is very akin to pre US/Japan WWII
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It was a no win situation for him Zilla. One of his campaign promises was to get our boys out of bankers wars, but tptb are trying to force him to sacrifice even more of them. No matter what, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Iran’s made its intentions clear....there is no reasoning or negotiation with them. I’m not suggesting an invasion or the nuclear destruction of their country. They do however need their nose bloodied and a back eye so they know not to screw with us.
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

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Iranian military says it could have taken out a manned Navy P-8 Poseidon instead of a drone

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Oh, how magnanimous of them.

So the US is stupid enough to fly manned aircraft right over Iranian proper? I mean, that's where the Iranians claimed the drone was right? And they're saying the aircraft was supposedly shadowing it right???

They want it bad.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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He’s coming ever so close to losing my vote...I won’t vote democrat either but he is naive about the danger Iran poses. This situation is very akin to pre US/Japan WWII
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


It was a no win situation for him Zilla. One of his campaign promises was to get our boys out of bankers wars, but tptb are trying to force him to sacrifice even more of them. No matter what, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Iran’s made its intentions clear....there is no reasoning or negotiation with them. I’m not suggesting an invasion or the nuclear destruction of their country. They do however need their nose bloodied and a back eye so they know not to screw with us.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


But we both know it won't end with a bloody nose or black eye.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

INTP-A
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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
If Iran wants peace they just need to stop funding and arming hamas, hezbollah, houthis,...

Billions will poor into Iran and they will do great.

But clearly they are looking for a big confrontation with the west.

I can't see a good ending for this at this moment.
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hamass is claiming over 70 injured gazans from the bullshit terrorizing they're doing on the Israeli border.
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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He’s coming ever so close to losing my vote...I won’t vote democrat either but he is naive about the danger Iran poses. This situation is very akin to pre US/Japan WWII
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


It was a no win situation for him Zilla. One of his campaign promises was to get our boys out of bankers wars, but tptb are trying to force him to sacrifice even more of them. No matter what, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Iran’s made its intentions clear....there is no reasoning or negotiation with them. I’m not suggesting an invasion or the nuclear destruction of their country. They do however need their nose bloodied and a back eye so they know not to screw with us.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


But we both know it won't end with a bloody nose or black eye.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Is there risk yes...but sitting and doing nothing will only invite worse. Do we need to wait for a plane, ship, carrier or god forbid a city to go down before deciding to do something? I don’t want to wait for such a thing, I’d rather take my chances while I have the advantage. I didn’t vote for him to be nice to the Iranians...I voted for him to be tough on our enemies and reestablish our military deterrence capabilities.
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
If Iran wants peace they just need to stop funding and arming hamas, hezbollah, houthis,...

Billions will poor into Iran and they will do great.

But clearly they are looking for a big confrontation with the west.

I can't see a good ending for this at this moment.
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Iran wants Israel. They need it to bring in their demon mahdi.

But they have to go through us to get her. They can't hit her outright first because then the rest of the world would not fall for the supposed 'oppression' of Iran.

It's the same old bullshit play being used in Gaza and the West Bank, only on a bigger scale.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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It was a no win situation for him Zilla. One of his campaign promises was to get our boys out of bankers wars, but tptb are trying to force him to sacrifice even more of them. No matter what, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Iran’s made its intentions clear....there is no reasoning or negotiation with them. I’m not suggesting an invasion or the nuclear destruction of their country. They do however need their nose bloodied and a back eye so they know not to screw with us.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


But we both know it won't end with a bloody nose or black eye.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Is there risk yes...but sitting and doing nothing will only invite worse. Do we need to wait for a plane, ship, carrier or god forbid a city to go down before deciding to do something? I don’t want to wait for such a thing, I’d rather take my chances while I have the advantage. I didn’t vote for him to be nice to the Iranians...I voted for him to be tough on our enemies and reestablish our military deterrence capabilities.
 Quoting: Godzilla1980


There is no right answer here.

Either approach ends up killing innocents.

War is a horrible thing, I don't want to start one.

If they hit us and kill some folks, yes lets give them everything we have.

Until then, its a waiting game.

Let them make the fist move.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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Trump tries to show the international community that US doesn’t seek war contrary to Iran which have done enough in the Gulf. Trump look for more int. support before taking any military action. Moreover US has put saw on Tehran’s economic neck.

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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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The hawks who have Trump's ear on Iran

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Trump warned Iran via Oman that U.S. attack was imminent, called for talks - Iranian officials

"In his message, Trump said he was against any war with Iran and wanted to talk to Tehran about various issues ... he gave a short period of time to get our response but Iran's immediate response was that it is up to Supreme Leader (Ayatollah Ali) Khamenei to decide about this issue," one of the officials told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
One thing that bugged me last night was...What happens at the end of the 72 hour alert?

Is this the time limit he gave them to respond to his message?

Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 06/21/2019 12:58 PM
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes were in the air.

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EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes were in the air.

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Wow, story keeps changing.

Go figure.
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EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes were in the air.

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 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Wow, story keeps changing.

Go figure.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


ikr!
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I know I'm going to sound like a loon, but I can't shake the thought that Obama and Kerry are behind a lot of this stuff with Iran.

Just can't shake it.
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I know I'm going to sound like a loon, but I can't shake the thought that Obama and Kerry are behind a lot of this stuff with Iran.

Just can't shake it.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You don't sound like a loon.

They are involved.

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Iran Showcases US Drone’s Wreckage

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Oil prices soaring, refineries burning.

Tell me war isn't coming soon.
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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US asks for UN Security Council meeting on Iran

The US has asked the UN Security Council to meet on Iran behind closed-doors on Monday, diplomats told Reuters news agency.

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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Oil prices soaring, refineries burning.

Tell me war isn't coming soon.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Its here.

God help us all.
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I know there's a thread on it, but posting it here as it's another sign of just how close we are.

Satanic prayer prompts protests, walkouts during government meeting

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#RUMINT report of #IRGC boats arriving at Khark Island in the Persian Gulf with MANPADS and SAMs. The report suggest the SAMs are currently being deployed.

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Oh good grief. So now they're crying the President is a rapist.

NEW: Writer E. Jean Carroll: Trump sexually assaulted me in a Bergdorf’s dressing room

Trump ‘unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway—or completely, I’m not certain—inside me,’ she wrote in New York magazine.

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Whores, adultery, taxes, mentally deficient, warmonger and now rapist. There is no limit they will go to to win.

These people are pure evil.
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