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Love them or hate them, never underestimate them. What would you do to survive?
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As new US sanctions lodged, Pompeo says Iran ‘knows how to reach us’ for talks

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 Quoting: ~Jazz~


I know Pompeo and Trump have to keep saying this, but I just don't see how there will be negotiations. To put it simply, Iran will not talk to the US until sanctions are lifted, and that is not happening unless and until there is a new nuclear deal. And I agree with this:

“For them, giving up and essentially capitulating to the United States is complete political suicide,” Parsi, who is also a professor at Georgetown University, told Hill.TV on “Rising.”

“They will lose all of their legitimacy if they were to do so,” he continued.

“There is no way out for them,” he said. “That’s part of the reason why it is actually much clearer incentive structure for them to stand firm, even risk a military confrontation, count on Iranian nationalism and rally around the flag rather than coming to the table and essentially have to completely cave into Trump’s demands.”

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Without any possibility of negotiations, sooner or later the effect of the sanctions will be such that the Iranian people will grow more and more angry, and Iran government will take more and more aggressive actions and try to rally the people around the flag against the Great Satan (the US) and the Little Satan (Israel).

With no possibility of negotiations, I am not seeing how this ends well.
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You are all dead, get used to it.
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meh. We all gotta die sometime. Might as well happen standing up to evils' punk ass.

Bring it.
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Right behind you...
or better yet..
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bsgm Morning, folks.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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Arab media reporting that over 400 residents of Bethlehem are on their way to the northern gates of the city, near Rachel's Tomb, to engage IDF forces and carry out riots.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Ambassador to #Yemen in #Damascus: "We declare our solidarity with #Iran in the face of American arrogance."

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Arab media reporting that over 400 residents of Bethlehem are on their way to the northern gates of the city, near Rachel's Tomb, to engage IDF forces and carry out riots.

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Is this any different than the Gaza unrest?
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#BREAKING Iran says US sanctions on its leaders mean 'permanent closure' of path to diplomacy. (AFP)
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Arab media reporting that over 400 residents of Bethlehem are on their way to the northern gates of the city, near Rachel's Tomb, to engage IDF forces and carry out riots.

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Is this any different than the Gaza unrest?
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No. It's just more muslim terrorism.
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blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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#BREAKING Iran says US sanctions on its leaders mean 'permanent closure' of path to diplomacy. (AFP)
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blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


And it was.
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blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


And it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


lol

They weren't 'cooperating' with anything to begin with. Just empty promises and blatant lies.
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Some interesting articles last few days.


NATO aims to make space new frontier in defense

NATO aims to recognize space as a domain of warfare this year, four senior diplomats said

The decision, set to be taken at a Dec. 3-4 leaders summit in London that Trump is due to attend, would formally acknowledge that battles can be waged not only on land, in the air, at sea and on computer networks, but also in space.

[link to www.defenceweb.co.za (secure)]




NATO To Approve Alliance's 1st Space Defense Strategy

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Netanyahu tells Russian official: We will do ‘anything’ to prevent nuclear Iran

“I’m certain that Russia understands what it means for us when a regime calls for our annihilation, and acts on a daily basis to achieve that aim,” Netanyahu said in a meeting at his Jerusalem office with Russia’s National Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.

“Israel won’t allow an Iran that calls for our annihilation to entrench itself on our border, and we will do anything it takes to prevent it from obtaining nuclear weapons,” the prime minister said.

In a statement to reporters, Patrushev said Monday that the following day’s summit would focus on “the regional situation, especially Syria,” and place special emphasis on Israel’s security concerns.

“We pay special attention to ensuring Israel’s security,” he said, calling it “a special interest of ours because here in Israel live a little less than about two million of our countrymen. Israel supports us in several channels, including at the UN. The prime minister [Netanyahu] has already said that we share the same views on the issue of the struggle against falsifying the history of World War II.”

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 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Ready to fight Iran until the last USA soldier!
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blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


And it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


lol

They weren't 'cooperating' with anything to begin with. Just empty promises and blatant lies.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


People just don't understand how close to war we are. I've been on GLP for 7 years. This is the first time I'm seeing something this inevitable. And i'm being very realistic here. I'm always at the nothing will happen camp but this... this is probably it.
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...


blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


And it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


lol

They weren't 'cooperating' with anything to begin with. Just empty promises and blatant lies.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


People just don't understand how close to war we are. I've been on GLP for 7 years. This is the first time I'm seeing something this inevitable. And i'm being very realistic here. I'm always at the nothing will happen camp but this... this is probably it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


^^^^^^^

THIS! 100%
"Israel must be like a mad dog, to
dangerous to bother." Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that will happen, before Israel goes under." "Samson Option"

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Netanyahu tells Russian official: We will do ‘anything’ to prevent nuclear Iran

“I’m certain that Russia understands what it means for us when a regime calls for our annihilation, and acts on a daily basis to achieve that aim,” Netanyahu said in a meeting at his Jerusalem office with Russia’s National Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.

“Israel won’t allow an Iran that calls for our annihilation to entrench itself on our border, and we will do anything it takes to prevent it from obtaining nuclear weapons,” the prime minister said.

In a statement to reporters, Patrushev said Monday that the following day’s summit would focus on “the regional situation, especially Syria,” and place special emphasis on Israel’s security concerns.

“We pay special attention to ensuring Israel’s security,” he said, calling it “a special interest of ours because here in Israel live a little less than about two million of our countrymen. Israel supports us in several channels, including at the UN. The prime minister [Netanyahu] has already said that we share the same views on the issue of the struggle against falsifying the history of World War II.”

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 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Ready to fight Iran until the last USA soldier!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77759041


blah blah blah
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blah blah blah

And they threatened that the US pulling out of the 'deal' meant 'permanent' dissolution of Iranian cooperation.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


And it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


lol

They weren't 'cooperating' with anything to begin with. Just empty promises and blatant lies.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


People just don't understand how close to war we are. I've been on GLP for 7 years. This is the first time I'm seeing something this inevitable. And i'm being very realistic here. I'm always at the nothing will happen camp but this... this is probably it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749645


Cliche but...veils are being lifted all over.

What once was hidden shall be made known. And none of it is pretty.
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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Some interesting articles last few days.


NATO aims to make space new frontier in defense

NATO aims to recognize space as a domain of warfare this year, four senior diplomats said

The decision, set to be taken at a Dec. 3-4 leaders summit in London that Trump is due to attend, would formally acknowledge that battles can be waged not only on land, in the air, at sea and on computer networks, but also in space.

[link to www.defenceweb.co.za (secure)]




NATO To Approve Alliance's 1st Space Defense Strategy

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77758857


Nice to see NATO isn't run by flat-earth tards!
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When country uses term "permanent closure of diplomacy" with West then watch the straight, if Iran has nothing left to to lose and are ending all drive for diplomacy then they have nothing left to lose to not make good on their threat to close strait.

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They've stated ad nauseum over the years that if the strait of Hormuz lost its usefulness to them, they would ragequit and shut it down.

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Israel seeks US approval to annex Jordan Valley over ‘security’ concerns

Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu is allegedly seeking support and approval by the United States to enable the annexation of the Jordan Valley under the pretext that it is “a vital area to Israel’s security,” anonymous political sources have told Asharq Al-Awsat.

The speculations come shortly after Netanyahu’s tour with US Security Advisor John Bolton around the West Bank on Sunday, in which the Israeli premier insisted that any future agreement regarding Palestine must first guarantee an Israeli presence in the Jordan Valley.

“In any future peace agreement, our position is that Israel’s presence here must continue – for the security of Israel and for the security of all,” Netanyahu said, speaking on Israeli military control of the valley.

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Morning all!

Hope we have a war-free day.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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BREAKING: Russia says American drone that was shot down by Iran was in Iranian airspace

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Hey Russia...shot down any more commercial airliners lately?
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A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Morning all!

Hope we have a war-free day.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


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Morning all!

Hope we have a war-free day.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


cupojava
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


cheers
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Members of Son of Zawari for Khan Younis releasing images of IED balloons they have/are planning to launch.

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Iran will never pursue a nuclear weapon: Zarif

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Well, you don't have to 'pursue' what you already have right Zarif?
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Iran will never pursue a nuclear weapon: Zarif

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Well, you don't have to 'pursue' what you already have right Zarif?
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


They don't have one, but they could in under a year and they will do so after the Obama deal expires.
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