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The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420

 
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Iran has threatened to intervene in the Hamas war preemptively. Taking what I said earlier today on whether Iran has nukes or not would guide whether she gets involved, I am not liking the chatter coming out by Iran and her proxies now.
Just what will Iran do preemptively right now? Becoming involved at all be it herself or her proxies indicates she has a reason to be bold and is willing to face Israeli repercussions. Whether Iran uses nuclear weapons to start a war may not be plausible but she has always played the Mahdi scenario as Iran launching nuclear weapons to end a war. About time to say some prayers for the Protection of Israel and US troops.
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It’s possible that Iran has possessed nuclear weapons since at least 1999. In that year, there was a press release by the AP that was up for just one hour before it was withdrawn without comment, stating that Iran had detonated a modest nuke, apparently underground, the signature of which had been picked up on seismographs.

I’ve read that the consensus among intel sources is that Iran has from 12 to 15 fission devices in the 20 to 30kt range, a little larger than the type used at Hiroshima, that were bought on the black market when the Soviet Union fell, and possibly a few purchased from North Korea.
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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420
Iran has threatened to intervene in the Hamas war preemptively. Taking what I said earlier today on whether Iran has nukes or not would guide whether she gets involved, I am not liking the chatter coming out by Iran and her proxies now.
Just what will Iran do preemptively right now? Becoming involved at all be it herself or her proxies indicates she has a reason to be bold and is willing to face Israeli repercussions. Whether Iran uses nuclear weapons to start a war may not be plausible but she has always played the Mahdi scenario as Iran launching nuclear weapons to end a war. About time to say some prayers for the Protection of Israel and US troops.
 Quoting: Mil_man


It’s possible that Iran has possessed nuclear weapons since at least 1999. In that year, there was a press release by the AP that was up for just one hour before it was withdrawn without comment, stating that Iran had detonated a modest nuke, apparently underground, the signature of which had been picked up on seismographs.

I’ve read that the consensus among intel sources is that Iran has from 12 to 15 fission devices in the 20 to 30kt range, a little larger than the type used at Hiroshima, that were bought on the black market when the Soviet Union fell, and possibly a few purchased from North Korea.
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Also, if true, this might well be the reason that there has been no open Western or Israeli military moves against Iran so far in this century.
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Iran has threatened to intervene in the Hamas war preemptively. Taking what I said earlier today on whether Iran has nukes or not would guide whether she gets involved, I am not liking the chatter coming out by Iran and her proxies now.
Just what will Iran do preemptively right now? Becoming involved at all be it herself or her proxies indicates she has a reason to be bold and is willing to face Israeli repercussions. Whether Iran uses nuclear weapons to start a war may not be plausible but she has always played the Mahdi scenario as Iran launching nuclear weapons to end a war. About time to say some prayers for the Protection of Israel and US troops.
 Quoting: Mil_man


It’s possible that Iran has possessed nuclear weapons since at least 1999. In that year, there was a press release by the AP that was up for just one hour before it was withdrawn without comment, stating that Iran had detonated a modest nuke, apparently underground, the signature of which had been picked up on seismographs.

I’ve read that the consensus among intel sources is that Iran has from 12 to 15 fission devices in the 20 to 30kt range, a little larger than the type used at Hiroshima, that were bought on the black market when the Soviet Union fell, and possibly a few purchased from North Korea.
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Yes, some nukes actually from Ukraine even. We will soon find out.
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Gazan sources claim a possible naval raid near Zikim Beach, #Ashkelon is taking place. Unconfirmed at this time.

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In a special call, Hezbollah asks its members abroad to come to Lebanon -

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Following...
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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Blinken’s meeting with Netanyahu and the Israeli mini-war council has been ongoing for more than 5 hours after it was briefly halted due to sirens.

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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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This is the sort of insane rhetoric that pours out of Iran.

No one would consider bombing them if they’d stop promoting terror worldwide,
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BREAKING: Iran FM says “every possibility is conceivable” when asked if Iran would “go to war” over the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestinian - Al Arabiya

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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IDF kills the head of the Hamas Shura Council in Gaza (via
@yoavzitun); pace of Israeli assassinations of top Hamas members is increasing.

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 10/16/2023 06:15 PM
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

INTP-A
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High risk of doom tonight, let's see how Iran and her proxies act per their threats.
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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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#BREAKING Iranian Ambassador to Lebanon Mojtaba Amani: “Take the warnings issued by the Iranian Foreign Minister very seriously”

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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Last Edited by ~Jazzy~ on 10/16/2023 06:32 PM
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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In a special call, Hezbollah asks its members abroad to come to Lebanon -

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Please do....
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Hmmmm, very worried about abomb
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Jazzy, will you keep posting tonight?
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The IDF is now attacking military targets of the Hezbollah terrorist organization in Lebanese territory
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A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

INTP-A
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Jazzy, will you keep posting tonight?
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Yes
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Breaking: IDF says it is striking Hezbollah targets in Lebanon
5:32 PM · Oct 16, 2023

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Jazzy, will you keep posting tonight?
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Yes
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Great, thank you.
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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Israel Defense Forces
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In case you missed it:

(18:05) 🔻 Shots were fired toward an IDF tank and posts—along the Lebanese border.

The IDF responded with artillery fire.

(19:49-21:04) 🔻Multiple sirens sounded in the areas surrounding Gaza.

(21:42) 🔻Sirens sounded in the city of Tel Aviv.

For 10 days straight, the State of Israel has felt, heard, and personally been attacked by Hamas’ terrorism.
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Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420


Hmmmm, very worried about abomb
 Quoting: Mil_man


Yup Iran is working the fear narrative for sure.
But ... even Iran know an attack on Israel or the west would pretty much mean instant retaliation by air attack against all military and command and control and nuclear facilities at best , nuclear response at worst. Remember Israel isn't in the best mood and has Nukes anyway.
I have no skin in the game , i am not on either side, i don't care if they kill each other, but its plain to see any escalation by Iran at this point would bring too heavy a response.
They can voice support but cant get involved without being bombed back to the stone age..
I wish i was fishing instead :)





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