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Earth Cries
 User ID: 30465112  United States10/16/2015 08:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 guys check it out, i got my very first red ever and i love it. Quoting: MAEGTONLEVER 10/15/2015 Typical response from a bible loving fucktard im glad its obvious. id love to discuss it man to man with the one who gave it to me. but seriously, im proud to be what i am.  I call them my red badges of courage. Proud to be a servant of God! Last Edited by Earth Cries on 10/17/2015 07:03 AM Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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| 'V' for Venereal User ID: 52172085  United Kingdom10/16/2015 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Granted, al-Monitor is an aggregation of anti-Israeli. certainly anti-Netanyauhu views, but this seems of the few balanced ones. It covers the very multi-faceted issues we've been kicking around in this thread during the current terror wave. (Ze'ev Elkin is a Minister from the ruling Likud Party; former Duputy-Foreign Minister, and the guy Bibi took with him to Moscow to help translate the discussions with Putin, So he's an insider, basically) 'Israeli Minister: We must strengthen control over East Jerusalem' " Al-Monitor: You are not referring to diplomatic negotiations, correct? Elkin: No. I don’t believe in the separation formula espoused by the left, based on an assumption that one can build a small piece of Europe in the Middle East, with them on one side and us on the other. It doesn’t work because Islamic society is turbulent and they come at you from over and under the fences. In the end, it breaks through the borders you try to create. Europe tried to say that it didn’t care — until its own frontiers were breached. Al-Monitor: So what do you suggest as a solution? Elkin: One of the problem's roots is the atmosphere of hate toward Israel, fueled by the Palestinian school system — textbooks and curricula. It is also fueled by Palestinian television and other media, by speeches such as the one delivered by Mahmoud Abbas yesterday. Everyone paid attention to that speech and condemned it, including left-wing politicians, but the same things are said day after day by his ministers and advisers. These things exert an influence. Their consequences are predictable. I contend that we must create leverage, just as you would against terrorism, and treat the shaping of a certain type of atmosphere as you would a terrorist attack, for all intents and purposes. Let’s start with East Jerusalem because [the residents] are our responsibility. A society must protect itself. Al-Monitor: Do you think you can gain control of the incitement on social media? Elkin: Social networks don’t shape consciousness. They reflect it. What shapes ideas are media and education. We have to start asking ourselves what they teach in East Jerusalem schools. After all, we never asked, even though we fund 50% of their budget. We supervise in [the Arab Israeli towns of] Nazareth and Taibeh, and that’s why they cannot glorify martyrs in their curriculum and use maps on which Israel does not exist. But in East Jerusalem, they teach according to the Palestinian curriculum, and the implication is obvious. Our goal is to try and get to the point where the Arabs of East Jerusalem feel like the Arabs of Israel, for better and worse. For us that means having to supervise what goes on there and influencing things. We have built a kind of invisible wall vis-à-vis the neighborhoods of East Jerusalem. But that’s not normal, that’s not governance. This worked according to "They don’t harass us as long as we don’t harass them," but this is not a concept of governance...." < 50% Read more at: [link to www.al-monitor.com] .. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58975007 United States10/17/2015 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Another solid article from an otherwise noxious Bibi-bashing Leftie rag (its owner: Noni Mozes, 'nuff said) less than 50% The 'intifada of knives': A fire with no fuel [link to www.ynetnews.com] by Yaron Friedman Analysis: Palestinians committing violence are mainly interested in being hailed as heroes online; Arab world surmises that without support from Fatah and Hamas, the 'knife intifada' won't devolve into anarchy. "The first intifada in 1987 was called “the intifada of stones,” the second in 2000 “the al-Aqsa intifada.” The security establishment has nicknamed October’s series of attacks “the rising wave of terror” but the Arab world has already defined it “the intifada of knives” or “the intifada of stabbings.” It’s also being nicknamed “the intifada of the young.” The first intifada in 1987 was called “the intifada of stones,” the second in 2000 “the al-Aqsa intifada.” The security establishment has nicknamed October’s series of attacks “the rising wave of terror” but the Arab world has already defined it “the intifada of knives” or “the intifada of stabbings.” It’s also being nicknamed “the intifada of the young.” Why then, despite the gravity of the events and their non-stop momentum, do most commentators in the Arab world feel that there is little chance of their succeeding or effecting change? It seems that every 13–15 years, a new generation of Palestinians arrives that has been schooled on the values of the struggle against the “Zionist occupation” but has forgotten the tremendous damage and death this battle has caused. The reasons for the outbreak of each uprising change – for example the economic crunch at the end of the ‘80s, or the Palestinians’ refusal to accept the outcomes of the Oslo Accords at the end of the ‘90s. The two-stage withdrawal from Lebanon, each one preceded by an intifada, served as an example to Palestinians of the effectiveness of a guerilla war. The first intifada was a popular uprising, which the Palestinian Liberation Organization and Hamas gradually took over. The second intifada was planned and initiated by both organizations, therefore making use of the PA’s police weapons and Hamas’s suicide bombers. The current intifada is a popular initiative like the first, except without the management of any of the Palestinian organizations. Why is that? Fatah is scared of Hamas, Hamas is scared of Islamic Jihad The situation has changed and does not resemble that of the ‘80s or ‘90s. The leadership has been silenced by the rift between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, between Fatah and Hamas. The Palestinian Authority fears that the spread of unrest through the West Bank could undermine its power and allow Hamas to take over. Hamas, for its part, is worried about a confrontation with Israel at this time, too close to last summer’s conflict. The “hudna” (ceasefire) agreed with Israel was supposed to give the organization time to regroup for the next round, but Hamas is still some way from completing its preparations. Furthermore, Hamas is currently supported by Qatar rather than Iran and the Gulf state is not currently encouraging them to start firing. Hamas hopes to win aid from Saudi Arabia as well, in order to rebuild the Gaza Strip. The organization is worried that its current weakness will strengthen rival organizations in the Strip such as Islamic Jihad and the Sinai branch of the Islamic State...." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70435464 United States10/17/2015 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 21 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! PHOTOS: Armed Palestinias patrolling in the Qalandia camp, n- Jerusalem to prevent demolition - @sakirkhader [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] Cross posting for y'all from Janey thread. Cheers! |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 DEBKAfile English ‏@debka_english 3h3 hours ago Female Palestinian stabs girl soldier in Hebron: October 17, 2015, 12:02 PM (IDT) Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Peter Lerner ‏@LTCPeterLerner 2h2 hours ago This morning, forces defused rocket in S. #Israel. Reports indicate rocket launched overnight & landed in open area near the security fence Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Police: 3rd attach this am. #Palestinian stabbed a Border Policewoman in Hebron, assailant was shot onsite. Officer was lightly wounded. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 The Times of Israel ‏@TimesofIsrael 1h1 hour ago Iran rejects criticism of missile test slammed by US, France [link to dlvr.it] Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 The Jerusalem Post ‏@Jerusalem_Post 12m12 minutes ago 'France advancing plan to deploy international observers at Jerusalem's Temple… [link to dlvr.it] #Politics Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 The Jerusalem Post ‏@Jerusalem_Post 9m9 minutes ago Russian air force makes 36 sorties, hits 49 ISIS targets in Syria [link to dlvr.it] #BreakingNews Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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User ID: 26377101 United States10/17/2015 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Ynetnews ‏@ynetnews 4m4 minutes ago #Breaking: Dan bus lines parking lot near Ayalon mall in Ramat Gan catches fire, firecrews on the scene. Catches fire? Like Joseph's tomb "caught" fire?? Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
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(OP)Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 10:44 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Yeshayahu 54 1 “Sing, barren woman who has never had a child! Burst into song, shout for joy, you who have never been in labor! For the deserted wife will have more children than the woman who is living with her husband,” says Adonai. 2 Enlarge the space for your tent, extend the curtains of your dwelling; do not hold back, lengthen your cords, make your tent pegs firm. 3 For you will spread out to the right and the left, your descendants will possess the nations and inhabit the desolated cities. 4 Don’t be afraid, for you won’t be ashamed; don’t be discouraged, for you won’t be disgraced. You will forget the shame of your youth, no longer remember the dishonor of being widowed. 5 For your husband is your Maker, Adonai-Tzva’ot is His name. The Holy One of Isra’el is your Redeemer. He will be called the G-d of all the earth. 6 For Adonai has called you back like a wife abandoned and grief-stricken; “A wife married in her youth cannot be rejected,” says your G-d. 7 “Briefly I abandoned you, but with great compassion I am taking you back. 8 I was angry for a moment and hid My face from you; but with everlasting grace I will have compassion on you,” says Adonai your Redeemer. 9 “For me this is like Noach’s flood. Just as I swore that no flood like Noach’s would ever again cover the earth, so now I swear that never again will I be angry with you or rebuke you. 10 For the mountains may leave and the hills be removed, but My grace will never leave you, and My covenant of peace will not be removed,” says Adonai, who has compassion on you. 11 “Storm-ravaged city, unconsoled, I will set your stones in the finest way, lay your foundations with sapphires, 12 make your windows shine with rubies, your gates with garnet, your walls with gemstones. 13 All your children will be taught by Adonai; your children will have great peace. 14 In righteousness you will be established, far from oppression, with nothing to fear; far from ruin, for it will not come near you. 15 Any alliance that forms against you will not be My doing; whoever tries to form such an alliance will fall because of you. 16 It is I who created the craftsman who blows on the coals and forges weapons suited to their purpose; I also created the destroyer to work havoc. 17 No weapon made will prevail against you. In court you will refute every accusation. The servants of Adonai inherit all this; the reward for their righteousness is from Me,” says Adonai. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Thank you to everyone who stood up for this thread yesterday. In the midst of all of the hate that is growing day by day, those simple acts of kindness meant more than you know.  To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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| MAEGTONLEVER
User ID: 5439482 United States10/17/2015 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 good morning everyone. debka has a new editorial about the iran and saudi cash war in the muslim occupied territories. [link to app.debka.com] Spare not the rod! MAEGTON LEVER |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Israel Breaking ‏@IsraelBreaking 23s23 seconds ago As result of increased attacks, armed guards now assigned to protect/escort religious Jews in Old City of Jerusalem. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 good morning everyone. Quoting: MAEGTONLEVER debka has a new editorial about the iran and saudi cash war in the muslim occupied territories. [link to app.debka.com] Boker Tov ML! Sorry/glad to hear of your red   To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Over 20 busses have been burnt after a fire broke out at a bus parking lot in Ramat Gan. UPDATE: Fire teams have gained control of the fire at bus terminal in Ramat Gan. 35 buses have been destroyed. [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 RT ‏@RT_com 6m6 minutes ago Russia to build gas pipeline in Pakistan [link to on.rt.com] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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Everything User ID: 66849899 United States10/17/2015 11:42 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Day of Rage sounds like something the UN would think up themselves. These groups and the UN need dismantling not just one brick at a time, the whole thing need shut and barred and never allowed to start up anywhere angian all you have to do in look at before them, and after them, they were evil from the start. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
| MAEGTONLEVER
User ID: 5439482 United States10/17/2015 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 good morning everyone. Quoting: MAEGTONLEVER debka has a new editorial about the iran and saudi cash war in the muslim occupied territories. [link to app.debka.com] Boker Tov ML! Sorry/glad to hear of your red lol its nothing. besides, whatever gets me a hug and a wink is worth it  Spare not the rod! MAEGTON LEVER |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Morning All, Quoting: daughter in NYC Great reporting , as usual  I'm just in amazement of the pali's demands from UN! Their bravado isn't so unusual when you consider the worlds' hate of Israel and Jews. They have alot of company and their numbers grow by the day. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| JazzyG
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 19631260 United States10/17/2015 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 UNRWA workers hail terror attacks on social media, NGO says Palestinian employees of a UN refugee agency are inciting Palestinians to commit terror attacks against Israelis from social media accounts on which they explicitly identify as United Nations workers, a report from a UN watchdog published Friday charged. UN Watch chief Hillel Neuer said his organization’s report was submitted to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, to UNRWA chief Pierre Krähenbühl and to US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power. The US, according to the United Nations monitoring group, is the largest funder of UNRWA with $400 million annually. In the report, Neuer cites nine UNRWA employees and presents screenshots of what the group says are inciteful posts from their Facebook pages that call for the murder of Jews, or promote conspiracy theories claiming terrorists killed by Israeli security forces were innocent. [link to www.timesofisrael.com] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| MAEGTONLEVER
User ID: 5439482 United States10/17/2015 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The World at War: Israel to hamass: This is Your Last Chance for a Ceasefire Agreement Before We Invade Rafah....pg 4420 Morning All, Quoting: daughter in NYC Great reporting , as usual I'm just in amazement of the pali's demands from UN! well the palis and the un have this symbiotic relationship where they both try to gain legitimacy from eachother. israel is like the united states, in that we dont need the un, we dont want the un lol. but the palis need someone to listen their lies, and the un is just desperate to be needed imho. Spare not the rod! MAEGTON LEVER |
