++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

**What Is It ... That You Wish Us To Comment On ?? ... The Collapse Of Your Civilization ?? ... To Which We
Take No Responsibility In !! ... We Didn't Do These Things ... Your World's Peoples Did !! ... You Did This To Yourselves !! ... And Are Realizing That These Things/Actions/Beliefs, Ect.
... Will Come Back To Haunt You !!


Yes, you did not do it. You have no to it any responsibility.
But I wish to find out, that was the reason of crash of our civilization.

I want, that you have helped to understand it. I think, that it is very important not only me and all people on the Earth, but also to YOU (to our founders, star parents, observers of highly developed space civilizations …)!!!

In fact we for you as your children who only were born. And the child (especially human) needs attention, and very big!!!
In fact if to leave the human child without parents it at once will die. It you will not tell about many animals which in some hours of the life - completely independent and do not depend on parents. Why such difference? Why the animal already knows as it to live, what to do and than to eat? Whence they can know where it to go, fly or float to deduce new posterity to find food, or to construct the house. They that, are born already with this knowledge? Or they study at parents (which never saw)? Then how they know how to be covered from danger of terrestrial cataclysms? How they feel approach of earthquake or eruption of a volcano, a tsunami, hurricane …? Whence they in general can know about it or something about it?
Well, we shall admit the person was born, and parents only observe of it and support its viability (allow to eat from a bottle with milk), look behind it that it was not wounded or was not killed. But, thus of anything to it not telling and not training compulsorily. This child contain in conditions of the nature, for example any small area of jungle fenced by a barbed wire that it has not escaped from a zone of supervision. Parents (observers), appear some times in day to feed the child.
How you think, whom or than this person will grow? I doubt, that it can something speak or something to do. At the best it will mutter or try to make something something, it will not understand value of that.
We look further.
This person grows also to it place the same person (grown up in the same conditions), but an opposite floor. Parents (observers) continue them to support in the physical form, throwing it meal. Further, with a high probability if these people will not scratch each other an eye because of sharing meal and territory, they will have a child …
Here here the most important also begins and interesting!!!
What will be with the new child? Chances, that it will survive very little because the responsibility has already laid down on these "savages".
Ours « parents - observers » any more do not throw it food but only observe. But on it, the fenced site of jungle there is a food, it grows everywhere, but about it was never spoken and did not show to those experimental "savages".
How you think, - what is the time these still will live « people - savages » if « parents - observers » will not interfere with their life???
And now YOU present, that, the present "reasonable" person, in a following life were installed at a birth in bodies of these of " experimental savages ». YOU, the professor or the doctor of sciences, the expert of a high class or any other competent and formed person, at a birth will remember nothing. YOU will know nothing about the last lives, you will not have any access to any telepathic communications or access to an information field of the general knowledge. You - anybody, you a full zero, which has only a function of duplication, a stomach, in which it is necessary for something to thrust to not die, and holey memory in which nothing is kept if in head nothing to hammer a hammer. Dreams which for the morning you even do not recollect and if recollect anything from seen there will dream you, you simply will not understand.

And now let's present other experiment.
Here we shall try to simulate development of a human society, but by rules with which "experimental" people will be brought up. These rules are system which is adjusted on maintenance and development of the vital form on the Earth, but it in the event that rules fair for all people.

In this experiment, to people have given literacy, have learned to speak, write, read. Them have learned to extract to itself food, to build houses. But thus, they need to live on « not fair » to rules. These rules, usual people cannot change, and for not submission or infringement - are punished. These rules were thought up by other "artful" people who are heads of all people. The same "artful" people, supervise, that nobody tried to change these rules in favour of all other people.
"Artful" people - governors, have everything, they what do not require. But in the meantime, they are afraid to lose all it. And they do everything to protect the « rich financially » a life any methods, even endowing people. It is necessary to toughen rules for people, to do by their more artful and not fair.
I think, that there is no sense further to tell, because we shall see our present world, and rules on which we live as behind a barbed wire.
In any case, you as do not remember the last lives and the saved up knowledge, at a birth and, basically, to the death. You live by rules which are not fair for the majority of people and which you not in a condition to change. And if you want something to change, you will be punished or destroyed. Rules are those. And these rules limit many people. These restrictions remind me one history with rats.
In fact rats, by the nature like not silly. They find outputs from labyrinthes, are quickly trained. Not gift on them often people experiment. These essences in a free life like behave usually. But it is necessary to limit them in what, and they behave already absolutely in another way. Once I have heard the story of one seaman as by the sea ship they got rid of rats. For this purpose, seamen have caught rats and have planted them in a flank. In a flank, rats have started to eat each other, and in the end there was one rat - the murderer. Then this rat let out, and it killed and ate all other rats by the ship.
Here to you and rules. Restrictions on alive essences here is how operate. And rules which now at people, than do not differ from those conditions in a flank with rats.
The rat became the murderer because it have limited in vital space. The person as limit « slavish laws », thought up by "artful" people. I now am not surprised, why now on a planet so it is a lot of violence and murders.
In this experiment, the role of the tutor is carried out by "system". The Human being develops in those conditions in which it is. If to consider, that the person can learn only to that to it present (having taken as an example the first experiment) it it it is possible to draw a conclusion, that mankind as a reasonable kind, simply helplessly, without supervision adult (the clever parents). And if to consider, that all this business, especially now, it is spoiled, to what good (except for lessons for the essence playing game under the name "life"), it will not result. People will simply destroy themselves, as those rats in a flank.
It is very a pity to me.
Most likely, this computer game under the name "life" has very sad end of this level. I do not know (being in this game), how many attempts are given on such game. It is necessary to guess only, using the information of unknown reliability found in the game. But, by historical data who too are probably deformed such experiments on the Earth were not unitary: "extinction" of dinosaurs, a glacial age, Atlantid, the Flood … this time (in this level of game), how much I have understood from a situation, is expected the world fire …
In general, abruptly!!! All we play game - a life. Also that the most interesting - it is pleasant to us!!! We like to play it in the same way as we play computer games here, on the Earth. We choose to ourselves any genre, for example, to hammer (to destroy) all monsters, or game « War Craft » in which as it is interesting to us to operate crowd of essences and soldiers and to direct them on destruction of the opponent. Thus to us gives pleasure to observe of succession of events. In that game of a rule than not worse than present our life. All is programmed in the same way.

And on the account of a symbol of seven final stars, I asked because at me is same:
[link to users.iptelecom.net.ua]
And I do not remember, what for it is necessary for me. I only feel, that somewhere is deep in a shower, it has to me any attitude.

ST in BG, thanks for your answers! I am glad, that you are! Also it is very a pity, that dialogue with you occurs not really, and thus. You are similar to the strict and fair teacher whom much knows, but does not allow to learn greater (not necessary or dangerous, that can apply in the spiteful purposes or in harm). It is similar to how our parents sometimes on our questions in the childhood answered: - you Will grow, then you will understand.


Yolgnu, thanks for Native Quote! In them wisdom of centuries, as well as your symbol contains!!!

Peace and love all!

ST, Hi.

As a conciousness, do we experience our existence through the absolution ( that which comes outward to become ) or it's negative nothing that resides inbetween it ( which is the absolution of the first's)? Or both?


-that nothing being what makes everything swirl and dance, that which to directs the flow

Thanks.

Here, I seem has found the reason of crash of our civilization...
ST in BG, in fact it is your words on 35 page?

The citation:
**As Was Stated ... We & Other Galactic Beings ... Have No "God" !! ... This Changed Word (From Gods) Is

A Reference To The "Creator Beings" Who Were Already Here (Under Permission Of The

Council/Confederation Of Worlds) To Conduct Experiments In Producting The Best As Possible Composite

Shells/Bodies In Which To Withstand The Various Climatic Conditions Of Terra/Earth ... It?s Radiations ...

And The Radiations & Other Energies Within This Solar System !!

**Other "Creator Beings" Those That Are Known As Anunnaki Came Later & Created Workers By Grafting

On Their Attributes ... Their DNA To The Terran Ape Species ... Thereby Creating An Hairless Ape/Worker

... That Was To Be Used For Mining/Labor Purposes !! ... It Was Of These Creations Which Were Later (In

Their Generations) Referred To As: Homo Sapien Sapien Or Humankind !!

Did you take on something you couldn?t control with our creation?

**No ... What Transpired Of Those That Created Lifeforms Here ... Was That One May Say ... An

Unrecognized Error Was Discovered In The "Program Matrix" Of Our "Humanoid Creations" ... That Is Of

Those That Grew To Form Tribes ... These Individual Tribes Found That Others Had Things That They Did

Not Have ... And What Began As Simple Stealing & Raids ... Led TO Violence & Murder !!

**Those Creator Beings Saw What Was Happening ... And Called An "Emergency Conclave" To Come Up

With A Solution !! ... They Understood That The Tribes Must Be United Under One Roof !! ... They Must Be

Reconnected In A Solidary/Sole Purpose/Understanding !!

**In Discussion One Creator Being Suggested An Establishment Of "Worship Of The Creator Beings"

(Which Was Changed To "Worship Of The Gods ... And Later "God") ... This Suggestion Was Voted On !! ...

*Myself In That Lifetime Brought Up A Thought ... That Creating Such A Lie ... A Fabrication Would Indeed

Unite The Tribes & Stop The Violence & Bloodshed !! ... However He Asked Them To Project This ... That

Such Beings In Futher Generations Would Branch Off & Create Their Own "Relgions" With Their Own

Supporting "Gods" ... And They Would Use The Reasoning That "Their God" Is Mightier Or The Only One ...

To Wage Battle Upon Battle ... Wars Upon End ... Upon The Peoples & All The Life On Terra/Earth !! ... In

That Lifetime I Felt It Sad To Come To The Conclusion That It Was Better To Have Our Creations Kill/Murder

Each Other & Start Creation Again (Eliminating The Mistake) ... Then To Condemn Our Creations To Such

Prolonged Misery & Suffering !!

**In The Voting ... The Motion Passed !! ... My Concerns Were Noted ... But Ultimately Dismissed !! ... My

Good Friend & Commrade Anpu/Anubis (The Dogon (Dog Headed Being) From Sirius B) Abstained From

The Voting ... As It Was His Belief That Such Was A "Damn If You Do & Damn If You Don?t" Senerio !! ...

*But Even Though He Did Not Vote ... He Left "Humankind" A Joke That Might One Day Help To Uplift These

Beings To Greater Understanding !! ... He Stated In His Great Humor/Laughter (Of Many Barks & Yips !!) ...

That "God" Is Actually Read From Right To Left ... Which Spells Dog !! ... And It Was He Anpu/Anubis That

Is The "Dog Headed Creator Being" ... One Of Many Physical Creator Beings That Brought Forth Life To This

Planet/World !!

**In That Lifetime & In Sucessive Lifetimes I Took A Vow ... A Pledge To Do What I Could To Help Terran

Kind To See Beyond The Illusions Of Fictious Religion ... To That Which Connects All Life/Lifeforms

Everywhere !! ... And Connects The Beings Here ... With Their Sisters & Brothers Of "Space" !! ... *I Have

Been Such A Teacher/Instructor Ever Since !!

The end of the citation.

I understand, all we are mistaken, we suppose mistakes... But it is life experience, and Gods too can be

mistaken.
-what for then to deceive, that you (I have in view of our founders) here not and to what occurs to our

civilization?
Yes, we have disorganized it, but in fact it has been incorporated in DNA from the very beginning!!! In fact

you from the very beginning saw the mistake!? What for then was centuries to observe of bloodshed and

torture of people on the Earth??? I understand, what it is probably interesting for observing, but where

humanity, compassion? You are our parents, and We are your children...
-so do not act with children!
Well, you needed to stop experiment still when it has left from under the control (project/plan)!
-please, do not think, that we search "whipping boy", but we your children, and we require the parents!!!
-let we the bad, disobedient and spoilt children, but we grew without parents as orphans in a shelter the

house. And you know about what children - orphans dream??? Children whom parents at a birth have left to

the mercy of fate, or at the best have thrown the house in a shelter?... Guess?
- No, they do not dream to revenge for it... Crying by nights in a pillow, they dream to grow and find the

parents!!! To see, embrace them, to show them as they have grown, whom of steel!!!

In the same way, people in all waited for a century YOU (the Gods - parents), peering into the sky, trusted,

that once you will return!!!...

With love to YOU!

Greetings: Questioner: User ID: 37670

Ok, you've told us what isn't correct, but what actually is correct?

**The Task Would Be Enormous !! ... To Attempt To Give You What You Ask !!

**You Would Have To Unlearn ... Just About Everything You Have Been Taught
... And Then Be Re-Taught ... Re-Instructed ... On How Things Actually Were !! ... On How Things Actually Are !! ... Rather Then Relying On ... "Beliefs, Assumptions, Speculations, Guesswork" ... That Has Been "Made Fact" ... Through The "Selling Of These Ideas" ... & Through "Popularity" !!

Did you, as Castaneda implied, give us the Reptilian Mind? That
same mind that gave us fear and the ego, so that humankind would 'fall'?

**You Have Already "Assumed" ... Given Limited Information !! ... And
Attempt To Make Fact ... And Through Fact ... A Guilty Verdict !! ... Essentially ...You Are Looking For A "Scapegoat" !! ... Someone(s) To Take The Blame For Things & Events ... Of Which One Has No Understanding ... No Concept !!

**Without Attempting To Go Into Exacting Detail In Regard To "Genetic
Engineering" ... We May Say This ... That Of The Many Many Descendants Of The "Original Created Workers" ... (Which Became "One Branch Of Homosapien Sapiens" )... The Base
That Was Used Was Of The Orangutan "Ape" Species .. .Found In Africa !!

**Through Genetic Engineering/Gene Grafting/Splicing ... The DNA Of Enki
(My Draconian/Dinoid Self In That Lifetime) ... Was Mixed/Blended
With That Of The "Ape Species/Matrix" ... And Then Implanted In "Volunteer Birth Mothers" ...
To Create "The Worker" !! ... Not As A "Slave" ... But As A "Created Worker" ... Simply A "Bioengineered Tool" ... To Take Up The Toil & Burdens Of That Of The Anunnaki !!

**As The Species Used Was "Of The Ape" ... It Was Not The Reptilian Mind
That Was Predominant ... But Rather The Mammalian Mind !! ... Which Could Be Both Calm & Savage !! ... Peaceful & A Killer !! ... Now The Blend Was Indeed Incorporating Draconian/Dinoid DNA ... This Served To "Balance Out" The "Survival Instincts & Emotions" Of The Creations !! ... That Is ... They Would Not Out Of A "Sense Of Survival" ... Decide That One Is A Threat To Attack & Kill !! ... But Would Stop & Think ... Before Proceeding !! ... To Perhaps Choose Another Course Of Action !!

**The "Fear & Ego" ... Leading To The Downfall Of Humankind" Senerio ...
Does Not Hold Up/Work ... Given The Reality Of The Situation !! ... That These Beings ... Those Termed "Ape" ... Had Such "Instinctual/Survival Qualities" Beforehand !! ... We Simply Altered/Changed These "Qualities" ... And "Buffered Things Out" !! ... Which Allowed For The Beginnings Of Reason Over Savagery !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Hi ST

What Are Dreams Actually?

Thanks

I am curious:
This is the one of the longest thread ever.
Whhy is there not question from Forum Mods ??
I wonder how come ??

Greetings: Spacer: User ID: 133161

**What Is It ... That You Wish Us To Comment On ?? ... The Collapse Of Your Civilization ?? ... To Which We
Take No Responsibility In !! ... We Didn't Do These Things ... Your World's Peoples Did !! ... You Did This To Yourselves !! ... And Are
Realizing That These Things/Actions/Beliefs, Ect. ... Will Come Back To Haunt You !!

Yes, you did not do it.

**That Is Correct !! ... We Did Not !!

You have no to it any responsibility.

**We Assume No Responsibility ... For Those Beings ... Who Do Not "Follow
Through" With Teachings & Instructions Given !!

But I wish to find out, that was the reason of crash of our civilization.

**There Are Way Too Many Reasons To List & To Talk About ... For The
"Downward Spiral" Of Your "Civilization" !!

I want, that you have helped to understand it.

**You May Request Of Help To Understand The Reasons ... However We Do Have "Limits" On What We Can Speak Of ... Do To "Levels Of Teachings" ... & Also ... "Works
In Progress" Which We Need To Attend To !! ... So You Will Understand ...
Why We Cannot Stay "Glued To A Computer/Computer Screen" ... While Our Jobs Are Left Unattended !!

I think, that it is very important not only me and all people on the Earth,
but also to YOU (to our founders, star parents, observers of highly developed space civilizations …)!!!

**Everything Is Important !! ... However Everything Has It's Place & Order In Line !! ... That Is ... Certain Things Have To Take Precedence ... Have To Come First ..
Before Other Things !! ... In This There Is No "Line Jumping" !!

In fact we for you as your children who only were born. And the child (especially human) needs attention, and very big!!!

**And That Is The Problem !! ... The Perceptual Awareness !! ... The "Demand
For Attention" ... When You Are Intelligent Beings In Your Own Right !! ... Who Have Come To Terra/Earth To Learn Lessons ... To Experience ... To Grow !!

In fact if to leave the human child without parents it at once
will die.

**Yes That Is A Terrestrial "Human" Child !! ... Who Are Born Rather
Helpless !!

It you will not tell about many animals which in some hours of the
life - completely independent and do not depend on parents. Why such
difference?

**It Was How They Were Constructed/Built/Designed !!

Why the animal already knows as it to live, what to do and than
to eat? Whence they can know where it to go, fly or float to deduce new
posterity to find food, or to construct the house. They that, are born already with this knowledge? Or they study at parents (which never saw)?

**Again This Is How they Are Constructed/Built/Designed !!

Then how they know how to be covered from danger of terrestrial cataclysms?
How they feel approach of earthquake or eruption of a volcano, a tsunami,
hurricane …? Whence they in general can know about it or something about it?

**Those In "Animal Forms" Are Designed To Be Sensitive To These Things !!
... It Is Part Of Their "Internal Software/Instinctual Programming" ... Of Which Those In Terrestrial Forms Have This Too ... But It For The Most Part Is "Turned Off" Or Ignored !!


Well, we shall admit the person was born, and parents only observe of it and support its viability (allow to eat from a bottle with milk), look behind it that it was not wounded or was not killed. But, thus of anything to it not telling and not training compulsorily. This child contain in conditions of the nature, for example any small area of jungle fenced by a barbed wire that it has not escaped from a zone of supervision. Parents (observers), appear some times in day to feed the child.

How you think, whom or than this person will grow? I doubt, that
it can something speak or something to do. At the best it will mutter or try
to make something something, it will not understand value of that.

We look further. This person grows also to it place the same person (grown up in the same conditions), but an opposite floor. Parents (observers) continue them to support in the physical form, throwing it meal. Further, with a high probability if these people will not scratch each other an eye because of sharing meal and territory, they will have a child …

Here here the most important also begins and interesting!!! What will be with the new child? Chances, that it will survive very little because the responsibility has already laid down on these "savages".

Ours « parents - observers » any more do not throw it food but only observe. But on it, the fenced site of jungle there is a food, it grows everywhere, but about it was never spoken and did not show to those experimental "savages".

How you think, - what is the time these still will live « people - savages » if « parents - observers » will not interfere with their
life??

**Ok ... You Are Attempting To Correlate Those In "Animal Forms" With
Those In Terrestrial "Human" Forms !! ... Each Was It's Own "Special Creation" And As Such ... Was Designed Differently ... For A Different Environment & For A Different Level Of Awareness/Experiences !! ... To Compare & Use Other Species As A Groundwork ... A Basis/Foundation ... Against Others Is Rather ... To Not Understand What You Are Talking About !! ... It Is Comparing "Apples & Oranges" ... And Complaining ... That Neither Is A Peach
!!

And now YOU present, that, the present "reasonable" person, in a
following life were installed at a birth in bodies of these of "
experimental savages ». YOU, the professor or the doctor of sciences, the expert of a high class or any other competent and formed person, at a birth will remember nothing. YOU will know nothing about the last lives, you will not have any access to any telepathic communications or access to an information field of the general knowledge. You - anybody, you a full zero, which has only a function of duplication, a stomach, in which it is necessary for something to thrust to not die, and holey memory in which
nothing is kept if in head nothing to hammer a hammer. Dreams which for the
morning you even do not recollect and if recollect anything from seen there
will dream you, you simply will not understand.

**Sorry !! ... We Don't Have Control Over Certain "External Factors" ... One Of Which Is Your "Density Level" ... Of Which You Are Exposed To ... On Terra/Earth !!
... Granted We Have The Means To "Get Around" This Problem ... On A Temporary Basis !! ... But On A Permanent Basis ... Without Agreed To "Alteration" ... The Lowering Of
Such "Protective Barriers" ... Would Cause Madness ... Then Death !!

And now let's present other experiment.
Here we shall try to simulate development of a human society,
but by rules with which "experimental" people will be brought up. These
rules are system which is adjusted on maintenance and development of the
vital form on the Earth, but it in the event that rules fair for all people.

In this experiment, to people have given literacy, have learned
to speak, write, read. Them have learned to extract to itself food, to build houses. But thus, they need to live on « not fair » to rules. These rules, usual people cannot change, and for not submission or infringement - are punished. These rules were thought up by other "artful" people who are heads of all people. The same "artful" people, supervise, that nobody tried to
change these rules in favor of all other people.

"Artful" people - governors, have everything, they what do not
require. But in the meantime, they are afraid to lose all it. And they do
everything to protect the « rich financially » a life any methods, even
endowing people. It is necessary to toughen rules for people, to do by their more artful and not fair.

I think, that there is no sense further to tell, because we shall see our present world, and rules on which we live as behind a barbed wire.

In any case, you as do not remember the last lives and the saved up knowledge, at a birth and, basically, to the death. You live by rules
which are not fair for the majority of people and which you not in a
condition to change. And if you want something to change, you will be
punished or destroyed. Rules are those. And these rules limit many people. These restrictions remind me one history with rats.

In fact rats, by the nature like not silly. They find outputs from labyrinthes, are quickly trained. Not gift on them often people experiment. These essences in a free life like behave usually. But it is necessary to limit them in what, and they behave already absolutely in another way. Once I have heard the story of one seaman as by the sea ship they got rid of rats. For this purpose, seamen have caught rats and have planted them in a flank. In a flank, rats have started to eat each other, and in the end there was one rat - the murderer. Then this rat let out, and it killed and ate all other rats by the ship.

Here to you and rules. Restrictions on alive essences here is how operate. And rules which now at people, than do not differ from those conditions in a flank with rats.

The rat became the murderer because it have limited in vital space. The person as limit « slavish laws », thought up by "artful" people. I now am not surprised, why now on a planet so it is a lot of violence and
murders.

In this experiment, the role of the tutor is carried out by "system". The Human being develops in those conditions in which it is. If to
consider, that the person can learn only to that to it present (having taken as an example the first experiment) it it it is possible to draw a conclusion, that mankind as a reasonable kind, simply helplessly, without supervision adult (the clever parents). And if to consider, that all this business, especially now, it is spoiled, to what good (except for lessons for the essence playing game under the name "life"), it will not result. People will simply destroy themselves, as those rats in a flank.

**Your "Experiment/Scenario Is "Interesting" ... However It Is Now How Things Were ... How Things Are ... Or How We Do Things !! ... You Are Attempting To Understand Using "Limited Terrestrial Knowledge" !! ... You Do Not Know What We Know !! ... And Are Attempting (What We Would Say Is "The Impossible" ... Or In The Very
Least ... Highly Unlikely !!) To Comprehend ... Using These "Made Up Stories/Examples" ... When They
Have No Connection Whatsoever To "Our Ways" !! ... To Attempt To Understand
... You Have To Begin Again !! ... To Stop Thinking Like A Terrestrial Being ... And Start Thinking
Like A Galactic Being !! ... As We Are Galactic Beings !! ... You Are Too !!
... But You Insist On Playing At The Role Of Terrans/Humans ... & Limiting Yourselves In This Fashion !!

It is very a pity to me. Most likely, this computer game under the name "life" has very sad end of this level. I do not know (being in this game), how many attempts are given on such game. It is necessary to guess only, using the information of unknown reliability found in the game. But, by historical data who too are probably deformed such experiments on the Earth were not unitary: "extinction" of dinosaurs, a glacial age, Atlantid, the Flood … this time (in this level of game), how much I have understood from a situation, is expected the world fire …

**It Is A Pity ... When Things Are All "Balled Up" In One Giant Collection Of Misunderstanding ...
When Each Part Of This ... While It Is Interconnected To & With The Others
& Other Ideas ... Is It's Own Separate Subject & Thought !!

In general, abruptly!!! All we play game - a life. Also that the most interesting - it is pleasant to us!!! We like to play it in the same way as we play computer games here, on the Earth. We choose to ourselves any
genre, for example, to hammer (to destroy) all monsters, or game « War
Craft » in which as it is interesting to us to operate crowd of essences and
soldiers and to direct them on destruction of the opponent. Thus to us gives pleasure to observe of succession of events. In that game of a rule than not worse than present our life. All is programmed in the same way.

**Thankfully We Are Not Of These Ways !!!

And on the account of a symbol of seven final stars, I asked because at me is same:

**From An "Outward Perception" Perhaps ?? ... From An Intimate & Personal Relationship
It Is Not !! ... As This Is From/Of Another Lifetime !!

[link to users.iptelecom.net.ua]

And I do not remember, what for it is necessary for me. I only feel, that somewhere is deep in a shower, it has to me any attitude.

**I Am Told ... That I May Say ... It Is "Of The Pleiades" ... I May State
No More On This !!

ST in BG, thanks for your answers!

**You Are Welcome !! ... We However Would Say ... That Your "Terrestrial
Translation Program" Is Oftentimes Difficult To Interpret !! ... So That Is Why It Takes More "Linear Moments" To Cross Coordinate Similar Ideas ... In Which To Render Your Answers/Responses !!

I am glad, that you are!

**You Are Too !!

Also it is very a pity, that dialogue with you occurs not really, and thus.

**Well We Tried "Conference Calling" ... But "Conference" Never Showed Up !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

You are similar to the strict and fair teacher whom much knows, but does not
allow to learn greater (not necessary or dangerous, that can apply in the
spiteful purposes or in harm).

**Do To That We Are Communicating On An "Open Terrestrial Form" ... We Are
Not Only Addressing You ... And Your Own "Level Of Development" ... We Are Also Addressing "Others" ... Of Varying Developmental Levels !! ... And As Such ... We Cannot Respond/Talk To You Directly ... Without Broadcasting The Message To Everyone Else !! ... So Of This ... We Have To Take "Sensible Precautions" ... To See That What We Say & What We Release To "The Terrestrial Public" ... Is Information That Is Not ... Used & Abused !! ... Where You May Hurt Yourselves ... Others ... Other Lifeforms ... & Your Planet !!

It is similar to how our parents sometimes on our questions in the childhood answered: - you Will grow, then you will understand.

**That Would Be Correct !! ... You Will Learn & Advance ... And After
Understanding Of These "Teachings" ...
Then You Will Grow/Gain In Wisdom !!

Peace and love all!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Yolgnu

Thank You Most Kindly ... For The Native/Nations/Tribes Quote/Quotations !! ... In A Number Of Lifetimes I Was/Am ... Of These Connections ... (2) Of Which I Have Connected To/Experienced ... Being Shawnee !!

Also I Have "Talked With" & "Brought Forth" Communications From Many Wise Beings ... Who Are Connected Deeply To The Earth ... And Who See Things In A Very Enlightened & Fresh/Practical Way !!

So Of These Quotes/Messages ... We Are Thankful & Appreciative !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: ate: User ID: 117992

ST, Hi.

As a consciousness, do we experience our existence through the absolution ( that which comes outward to become ) or it's negative nothing that resides in-between it ( which is the absolution of the first's)? Or
both?

**Sorry !! ... We Cannot Explain Such Things On "This Level" ... For Your
Understanding !!

-that nothing being what makes everything swirl and dance, that
which to directs the flow

**???

Thanks.

**Sorry We Couldn't Help !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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I understand, all we are mistaken, we suppose mistakes... But it is life
experience, and Gods too can be mistaken.

**Yes We All Can Make Mistakes & Commit Error ... An "Opps" Here & There !!

**There Were No ... And Are No "Gods" !! ... Ourselves & Myself ... Were/Are Simply Those Beings With Greater Knowledge !! ... And Of This We Were Looked Upon As "The Creator Beings" ... To Be Changed To: "Gods" ... And Finally To Be Diluted & "Changed" Into The "Idea" Of "God" !!

-what for then to deceive, that you (I have in view of our founders) here
not and to what occurs to our civilization?

**We Didn't Deceive !! ... We Did However Do Things "According To Protocol" !! ... Which Means That We Perform Our Operations/Experiments In Secret ... Behind The Scenes
!! ... So As Not To Disturb Other Lives/Lifeforms That Exist On Your World !! ... Also That We "Appear
In Public" In Guises/Looks That Are Acceptable To Your Culture !! ... For Both Our Benefits !!

Yes, we have disorganized it, but in fact it has been incorporated in DNA
from the very beginning!!!

**Consider What It Takes To "Plan A Terrestrial Family" ... To Go Through
The Physical Birth Process & To Raise These Children To Adulthood & Beyond !! ...

**Now ... Think Of "Physical Creation" Even Beyond The Physical Birth Process ... To Working With & Altering/Manipulating Various Genetic Combinations & DNA !! ... Not Only
Does This Preliminary Step Take A Long "Linear Time" ... "In The Lab" !! ... But Of Each Successive
Step ... Of Each Successive "Model(s)" Of These "Creation Experiments" .. These Beings Need To Be Watched Over/Cared For ... And Yet Allowed To Mature In Their Own Given "Time" ... But Yet They Must Not Know ... Who Their "Creators" Are ... Or What They Look Like Or Where They Came From !! ... (As These Beings Are Not Prepared To Understand/Accept This !!)

**Since Our Beings "Come Around" In The Vicinity ... Approximately Every
3,652 To 3,657 Terrestrial Years ... We Can Only Do So Much ... For The "Limited Time" That We Are Here !! ... That Is ... We May Be Able To Create One "Model" !! ... But Of The Successive Stages ... To "Work Out All The Bugs" ... A "Model" Must Go Through It's Long Trial Period !! ... (Which Is Rather To Some Extent ... Letting Them Go ... Until We Return !!) ... And If We See Evidences On The Return That This Model Didn't (For Whatever Reason
??) Turn Out So Well ... We "Tweak It" ... Upgrade It ... To "Model #2" ... And Go Through The Long Process ... All Over Again !!

In fact you from the very beginning saw the mistake!?

**We Realized An "Error In The Programming" ... When Our "Creations" Started To Kill Each Other .. Over Possession Of Physical Goods !! ... This We Did Not Anticipate !! ... The Thought Was Overlooked !!

What for then was centuries to observe of bloodshed and torture of people
on the Earth??? I understand, what it is probably interesting for observing, but where humanity, compassion?

**Of The Embodiment I Was/Am ... Of This "Creator Being" ... I Warned Them
... That This Would Occur !! ... However While My Thoughts Were Listened To ... They Were Ultimately Dismissed !! ... As The Idea Was ... To "Fix The Problem Now" ... At That
Moment ... And Not Worry About What Happens ... "Down The Road" ... Much Later !!

**I Cast My Vote Against The Plan To Create A "Worship Of The Creators"
... To Unite Our Creations Together In This Way !! ... It May Seem/Sound Cruel & Heartless ... But I Felt It Was A Far Better Thing ... To Have This Particular Model Take Each Others
Lives ... Then It Was .. To Condemn The Many Many Many Descendents Of These Beings To ... Bloody War Upon Bloody War !! ... In The Belief .. That Their "Particular Creator Being ("God(s)" ... Were In Support Of Such Ventures !!

**In Retrospect ... Of Those That Voted ... "For The Plan" ... I Can See
That Of Their Decision ... It Was Not Done In A Clear & Thoughtful Way !! ... If They Had "The Time" To Think This Out ... What The End Result Would Be ... Perhaps They Would Have Sided Against Such A Plan/Idea !! ... *To Say It In Your Terms ... They Made A "Panic Decision" ... Which The Beings Of Terra/Earth & Those Beings Who Cast A Yay Vote ... Have Had To Live With ... For A Long Long Long While !!

You are our parents, and We are your children... -so do not act with
children!

**No !! ... We Are "Creator Beings" ... We Are Specialists/Scientists ... In
The Advanced Understandings Of Life Creation & Biology !!

Well, you needed to stop experiment still when it has left from under the
control (project/plan)!

**This Has Been Attempted !! ... With Limiting Results !! ... Now The
Problem Is ... Do To This Rendered Decision Of "Long Ago" To Create A More Advanced Model ... That Has The Capability Of Higher Consciousness Processing ... To Have "Energy Essences" Come To Terra/Earth & Energize These Bodies ... That Will Effect Change On & To Your Planet Terra/Earth !! ... To Go Beyond
"Programmed Religion" ... And To Reconnect With Your World ... The Lifeforms & Lifeforces That Exist Here ... & To Reconnect With
Those Lifeforces & Lifeforms ... That Exist In The Cosmos !!

-please, do not think, that we search "whipping boy", but we your children,
and we require the parents!!!

**You Desire To Know ... Of Your "Creators" ... To Understand From Our Perspective !! ... Not From &
Of Which You Have Been Taught !! ... & Raised To Believe As The Truth !!

-let we the bad, disobedient and spoilt children, but we grew without
parents as orphans in a shelter the house.

**You Have "Grown Up" Without Complete Knowledge & Understanding !!

And you know about what children - orphans dream??? Children whom
parents at a birth have left to the mercy of fate, or at the best have
thrown the house in a shelter?...
Guess?

**You Have Been "Orphaned" From Knowledge .. From The Truth !!

- No, they do not dream to revenge for it... Crying by nights in a pillow,
they dream to grow and find the parents!!! To see, embrace them, to show them as they have grown, whom of steel!!!

**Which Is Behind The Idea Of Certain "Terrestrial Races" ... Who Know That The Anunnaki ... Their "Parents" ...Their "Creators" ... Are Returning !! ... Have Returned !! ... And They Wish To Know Them !! ... And Impress Upon Them ... How They Have Matured ... How
They Have Grown !!

In the same way, people in all waited for a century YOU (the Gods - parents), peering into the sky, trusted,

**The Wait Will Soon Be Over !! ... Again We Are Not "Gods" ... Nor Are We
"Terrestrial Parents" ... However We Are Very Knowledgeable Scientists & Specialists !!

that once you will return!!!...

**Many Are Already Here ... But In Other Forms !! ... Although Others Of Our Kind ... Will Soon Arrive !! ... In The "Native Looks" !!

With love to YOU!

**Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

how do you type or do you just think and the words appear on a forum? or more so, how do you get to a website? again ... mind over matter? thank you for your reply

St,
Does Hillary Clinton really have a personal relationship with a Tall Gray?
I heard her say this on the late night show and saw a video clip of it.. but it kind of looked like she was jokeing around and but then it kind of looked also she was serious but in a joking way not to offend others.
Blessings to all of you.
Star Phase

Greetings: starlight: User ID: 133534

Hi ST

What Are Dreams Actually?

**What One Calls "Dreams" Could Be Many Things ... Some Of These Are ...

1. The "Mind" Attempting To Sort Out Problems & Data Encountered ... In The
Waking State ... Though Scenarios ... Through Symbology !!

2. Connecting With Other Lives & Other Lifetimes ... All Happening In The Now !!

3. Out Of Body States ... Out Of Body Travel !! ... Where One Is Not
Limited To Just The Experiences Of The 3rd Density State Of Being !! ... *In My Own Experiences I Could See ... Sense ... Understand .... But I Couldn't Really Touch ... (Well Not In A Physical Way !!) ... As I Had No Solid Body ... As I Was Energy !!

4. Actual Physical Travel To Other States ... Other Dimensions ... But
Interpreting These In A 3rd Density Way !!

Thanks

You Are Most Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

St. Hi.

Do you know if where you're going to be when the dimensions shift?

For that I'm talking about the linear represenation of earth's energies raising, as is our future, correct?

What's the best way to say that? The term dimensional shift, is it correct?

Are energies raising, or are dimensions joining?

Are our knowledges of life and death going to become complete for those who are living at those times. What could be a better way of describing the "time", is it just a "state", and not a linear progression of what we call time?

On the subject of time. All reality occur at once, correct?

Are we just a very very comparmentalized and segregated form of consciousness in this state? Is this why we see it as linear.

Is it truly just what we are taught to believe that causes us to see "time" as linear? Is it just a smaller change in our perception, that we would still exist as normal three-dimensional humans, but just have different understanding, a different outlook, and a different method of coping with our experiences?

We wouldn't change bodies or anything just because of our change in perception of time would we?

Thanks.

Greetings ST In BG, how big is your ship and about how many Zetas reside there?

Has NASA come close to Nibiru(is this the proper name?)

Is the true purpose for the Space Age Weapons program for the perceived threat of aliens or to control every country on earth and is China as advanced as the U.S. in their space program?

Thank you ST In BG. I'm still very curious about Ireland, but if life first began in the area of the Middle East or Africa, why do I feel that Ireland is very important and has ancient secrets?

Greetings: curious: User ID: 133055

how do you type

**Do You Mean ... How Do We Communicate Here ??

**This Is Done Through A "Translation Matrix Program" Aboard Ship ... The
"Program" Is A "Hybrid" Which Allows Us To Communicate Our Thoughts/Thought Patterns Into Recognizable Words (In This Case "American English") Aboard Ship !! ... Whereas This Is Then "Downloaded" To Our "Conduit" In 3rd Density ... Who Is Sitting
At A "Computer" ... In Front Of A Computer Monitor & Keyboard ... And Typing This Information Directly To You !!

**There Are Also Times/Instances ... Where We Come "More Direct" Through
Our "Conduit" (With Permission) ... And We Temporarily Borrow His Form/Body ... To Use His Hands/Fingers, Ect. ... To Type On This "Computing System" !!

or do you just think and the words appear on a forum?

**This Is Also Possible !! ... However For The "Sake Of Easy Explanation"
...We Have Withheld Doing This ... In Your ("Linear Time Expression") ... "For This Time !!

or more so, how do you get to a website?

**Through The Process Explained !!

again ... mind over matter?

**We Can "Connect" In Many Many Many Different Ways !! ... The Term: "Mind
Over Matter" (As You May Call This) ... Is One Possibility !!

thank you for your reply

**You Are Most Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Star Phase: User ID: 63118

ST,

Does Hillary Clinton really have a personal relationship with a Tall Gray?

I heard her say this on the late night show and saw a video clip of it.. but it kind of looked like she was joking around and but then it kind of looked also she was serious but in a joking way not to offend others

**You Would Have To Ask "Hillary Clinton" !! ... If She Wishes To Espouse On Such Things ... That Is Her Prerogative !! ... One Must Judge What Is Stated Through Your "Terrestrial Instincts" & Though Knowledge Of That Person !! ... Is The Person Telling/Alluding To The Truth ?? ... Or Is This An Attempt At "Terrestrial Humor" ?? ... Only You Can Decide This !!

**We May Say ... (And We Are Not Stating The Validity Either Way !!) ... That If Such An Experience Was Happening ... We Are Bound By "Rules/Restrictions" Not To Discuss The Matter !! ... Nor To Release Such Informations !! ... As This Is Considered Personal & Private !!

Blessings to all of you.

**And To You As Well !!

Star Phase

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: ate: User ID: 117992

ST. Hi.

Do you know if where you're going to be when the dimensions shift?

**We Have An Idea/Understanding Of This !!

For that I'm talking about the linear representation of earth's energies raising, as is our future, correct?

**That Is "One Way Of Saying This" ... Using Your Way Of Expressing This Thought !!

What's the best way to say that? The term dimensional shift, is it correct?

**There Is No "Best Way" ... There Are Simply "Ways" !! ...Yes A "Dimensional Shift" Is One "Expression" !! ... However This Is Much More !!

Are energies raising, or are dimensions joining?

**Both & More !!

Are our knowledges of life and death going to become complete for those who are living at those times.

**You Will Be More "Aware" Of Such Things !! ... Although You Will Have Many Many Many "Lessons/Teachings" To Go ... Before Having A "Complete Knowledge" !!

What could be a better way of describing the "time", is it just a "state", and not a linear progression of what we call time?

**It Is Not A "Linear Progression" ... But Understood By Those Of "Terra/Earth" To Be This Way !!

**"True Time" ... In A Non-Linear Perspective ... Everything Is ... Of
"Now" !! ... Everything Happens Everywhere ... At Every Venture ... At
Every Moment ... In The Same Instance !!

On the subject of time. All reality occur at once, correct?

**Everything Happens At/Of The Same Moment !!

Are we just a very very compartmentalized and segregated form of consciousness in this state? Is this why we see it as linear.

**Well No !! ... Just The Thinking Is Of That Way !! ... You Exist "In
The Now" As You Are ... As You Exist On Terra/Earth !! ... It Is Only
Your "Awareness" ... Your Belief In Your Artificial "Time Constructs" ...
That Keep You In Bondage ... & Keep You Disconnected (In Your Thoughts
& Awareness) ... Toward How Things Actually Are ... And How They Function/
Work !!

Is it truly just what we are taught to believe that causes us to
see "time" as linear?

**Yes !! ... And Of This ... You Create Your Own "Belief" ... Your Own
Facts ...Which Become Your "Reality" !!

Is it just a smaller change in our perception,

**Pretty Much So !! ... But It May Be More Difficult Then ... For Say ...
Turning Off The Light In Another Room ... And Turning On A Light That Is Much Closer !! ... This Awareness ... This Understanding ... Would Take Quite Awhile ... To Get
Adjusted To ... And To Be Comfortable With !! ... It Would Require A Completely "New Way " Of Thinking ... And Of Looking At Things !!

that we would still exist as normal three-dimensional humans, but just have
different understanding, a different outlook, and a different method of
coping with our experiences?

**Of This ... Since The Planet & All Life/Lifeforms Are Adjusting To
"Different Energies/Energy Fields" ... Then It Would Be Moreso ... Of What You Will Experience In Your Upgraded Forms/Bodies !! ... As The 3rd Density Bodies Will Need To Be "Exchanged"
For Those That Are Designed ... To Exist & Withstand ... The Higher
Vibrations/Vibratory Rate ... & "Newer Experienced Energies" That One Will Be Exposed To !!

We wouldn't change bodies or anything just because of our change in perception of time would we?

**Not Of The "Perception Of Time" ... No !! . .. But You Will Need To Exchange The 3rd Density Bodies ... For The Reasons Stated !!

Thanks.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

ST. I want to ask you a bit about Atlantis, this time around.

It seems me and a friend are having trouble understanding the existence of it.

Were the atlanteans highly psychic?
Were they still technical like our race, in the sense of materialism, did they have machines, that weren't made of energy but of metal or some material like it?

Were they "born" or created with their abilities, or where they given by another race?

Were they created here on the planet? Where they 3D beings like we are? Did they have a need for sustanence like humans have to eat, and have to drink? Did they have to guard against other races? Where there other races on the planet along with them?

Did the atlanteans have large scale "construction" projects like we on earth do? Did they live in housings and did they have "markets" or anything like that? Were they a "material" race like us? I heard they were more "psychic in natuer", and attuned to the energies, so how would that alter what might be called their daily lives, in the sense of simply living, sustaning, and protecting themselves?

Was there ever intelligent life on mars?

Oh god, I hope I'm not overdoing it, I'm going to go look back in the thread to see if I missed anything, and don't hesitate to tell me to look back if I'm repeating another persons questions, or there are answers that are suitible. Thank you, and your last response helped me understand a few things a lot better.

I DONT BELIEVE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ST In BG, why would the Bush administration be allowed to build a military base on the moon? I thought the US was not allowed back on the moon?

Truthfully, how many times have our astronauts landed on the moon?

Hi ST in BG:
Thanks for your time and kindness.
Could you explain more about our future 4D bodies??
What is it nature??
Are they mechanical, biological, energy , flesh etc??
Will it be disposable??
Thanks again

Greetings: Yolgnu

My pleasure,

In a number of lifetimes I was of these connections too...

ST, what can you tell me about Kundalini??

[link to paranormal.se]

**We Don't Use It !! ... We Have A "Different Understanding" ...
A "Different System" !!

Yolgnu

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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Greetings ST In BG, how big is your ship and about how many Zetas reside there?

**These Questions Fall Under "Security Issues" !! ... We Cannot Answer Them
!!

Has NASA come close to Nibiru(is this the proper name?)

**We Don't Understand Your Question ?? ... "Close Close To Nibiru" ??? ... Please Clarify !!

Is the true purpose for the Space Age Weapons program for the perceived threat of aliens or to control every country on earth

**It Is For Both !! ... To Attempt To Prevent "Help/Helpers" From Coming Here To Terra/Earth !!) ... And To (Like Of Aztlan ("Atlantis") To Use These Weapons As A "Threat" To Control & Blackmail Countries Into Submission !! ... To Have Them Under The Idea That They Will Be "Blown Up" ... To Give Those Who Control These Weapons ... Anything Which They Demand !! .. To Keep Death & Destruction From Happening !!

and is China as advanced as the U.S. in their space program?

**They Cooperate Fully In Space ... With The United States , Russia & Other Countries !! ... While On The Ground ... On Terra/Earth ... They Are "Intentionally Painted" "Adverse Colors" !! ... *This Is The Same Idea Of The "Cold War" Between The Soviet
Union & The United States !! ... As When The Illusion/Deception Was That These Two Countries Were Adversaries ... In Space They Were The Closest Of Friends !! ... So This Is Just Another "Magicians Trick" !! ... Watch This Hand !! ... (But Don't Pay Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain !!)

Thank you ST In BG.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

I'm still very curious about Ireland, but if life first began in the area of
the Middle East or Africa,

**This Was One Of Many "Experimental Areas" !! ... Not The Only One !!

why do I feel that Ireland is very important and has ancient secrets?

**It Is Important & Has "Hidden Secrets" !! ... Which Involve The Creation Of The "Irish Race" !! ...
"Thoth" Agrees !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

HELLO ST!

I was up late one night a couple of weeks ago. I looked up from reading my book. I started spacing out. Now I'm not going to go into detail in how the next came about,there no point. Everything started to warp and blur in and out like waves I could see magnetic waves more than usual. But what I found interesting was the amount of individuals (e.t.'s watchers?) around me! It's like there was a party without me knowing. I seen the 'rod' like things flowing around, my good buddy with the wings and clawed feet and of course the Zeta one was the hardest to see of course. And others that went by me I seen at a glance. You mentioned to me before how surprised I would be if I new how not alone I was. But this was crazy. I mean no disrespect but what the hell was going on,or are they there all the time?

Quote of the day on E.T.'s by me.
We are you, you are we!

Which makes all the E.T. conspiracies theories, sightings and mingling with us so very funny!

Much love to you and our tribe!

St,
What are Shadow Beings?
Do they hurt humans?
Why do they come into our homes as cats and tall dark shadow figures and stare at you.
Why do some have red eyes?
Why do some have hats and others a hood.
Why are some that look like a huge spider in a corner.

Are they forbiden to touch humans? And if they do touch us can we get sick by them?
What is the real name of these Shadow beings..?

Blessings to you
Star Phase

Oh, C.C., I think that music is horrible!