++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

... Of course, you can make comparisons with the information you already have...

You are very Welcome......Always



Truth2

Hi ST,

Well you are somewhat prompt to opportunism isnt it? oo easy to critize without hinting on the errors... other times you are illustrative, somewhat informative, somewhat amazing... but thanks for the ideas and your comments.

A Scientist who Cares


My comments (+) on some of your later comments>


Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 580258

Happy new year and & or every celebration & holidays for everyone there... i had got a gift to tell you about my mistaken... or misinterpreted... information concerning the following communications>

The Sun appears just where it is expected to appear at least as measured with noon angles of incidence! I make a misinterpretation with the expected angle given the latitude... i was tired then i realized my mistake later on that night or the following morning... so happy newa... it seems there is not such a "hard evidence"... its funny and somewhat relaxing to laugh at oneself he he he he heeee

**Sigh !! ... And Just When We Thought There Was "Hope" ... Of "Enlightenment" ... Of Seeing !! ... Now It Is ... The Return To ... "Backpedaling" ... & Taking Back ... What You Said !!
+ What? Ha ha ha he he he he he ... not really... he he

**This Seems To Either Be A "Fear" ... Of "Putting Yourself Out There" ... Taking A Stand ?? ... On Something That Others Might Consider ... Not Of Firm Foundations ... Or There Was The "Opps Moment" ... Where You Strayed
Momentarily ... & Said Too Much !! ...
+ Well, not exactly and not as you tought, of course. It is another comprehension as you often said. he he he


** (And Perhaps ?? ... "They Said" ... That You Said Too Much !! ... & You Have To Retract Your Comments !!)
+ Who? Ha ha he he he ha he he he he ... that was great ST... you make me laugh... even who cares about this minor "communications"? Not to much people it seems, thats great in some ways because we can discuss ideas which might otherwise be "unwise" to even... mention? No ST, no one told me anything... and why should anyone would? Who? It is just... as you said... quite debunkable. Isnt it? he he he



nevertheless you do not correct the misinterpretation hey! Swampyiest :)

**Why ?? ... It's Your Misinterpretation !! ... Therefore ... It Is Of Your Learning/Teaching !!
+ Of course, as i said... of course : )




Weird he he he... not a longer winter but just a hard one...

**You'll Find Out ... Soon Enough !!
+ Perhaps? Hope not of course, but... perhaps indeed...



ST, you are as ambiguous swampy as ever he he he

**We Have A Reason ... For Our "Swampyness" !! ... The Conduit Resides Over ... The Former ... Great Black Swamp !!

**One Of The Reasons For Teaching ... Is To Allow The Students ... The Wow !!! ... The Joy Of Discovering ... & Learning !!

+ Yes of course. So you leave us with our mistakes because they are us to discover... isnt it? he he he he heeee

**If We Told You Everything ... You Would Not Learn !! ... You Might Have The Answers ... But Would Not ... Understand Them Fully !!

++ Yes, of course... however you are swampy on signaling the mistakes and prompt to criticize on the elaborations.



+ So you can "believe" what?

**We Can "Believe" ... That Changes Are Happening/Occurring ... On Terra/Earth !!
++ Always of course... thats unexplicative. Swampy assertment...




That i make a mistake with that assumption and while my measurements were/are right, my interpretation of the angle was wrong?

**No !!

Or that a change has really happened and being
compensated by another change in the ecliptic (orbital plane)? (Which seems extremely weird, unlikely BUT can be verified as a hard proof quite easily with some good observations of other stars and objects outside the solar
system or even, perhaps some objects in the system itself?

**Well No !! ... & Your Observations ... Would Always Be ... In Error !! ... Because Your Thinking ... Is In Error !! ... Using "Their" Way There ... On Terra/Earth ... Of Thinking ... Of Seeing !! ... To Really Understand ... To Really "See" ... You Need To Approach The Problem ... From Another Direction ... Another View/Perceptual View ... Another Base/Point Of
Reference !! ... As One Might Say ... The Base You Are Working From/Working Off Of ... Has Moved !!

++ So the "base" has moved in relation to what? The Solar incidence has not changed in a significant way at all, it is just as it should be for this time. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the rotational ax are more or less as expected, probably as expected. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the apparent polar ax had me perplexed, as it seems that is what had moved... but i am not sure that the apparent movement is not due to local minor fields... however it could be the main field... is this what you are suggesting as having move?

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This is highly curious and most interesting>

The magnetic field of the Earth has several components, that include rock induced magnetism in the local and regional levels and major componentes from two sources.

The first source is attributed to inner core movements, a ridiculous supposition which would imply i.e. constant shocks and deep earthquakes due to constant friction between melted and partially meted materials. The core should be very homogeneously laminated/layered for the later implications being unnoticeable from the surface, from where we can take measurements. The first source is likely then to be produced by something else (although i could be wrong), something more or less constant and enoughly energetic, something called SOL. Isnt it?! Electric currents flowing through the planets electromagnetic poles (which btw are not antipodes but reflect some inner structure that would be in great contradiction with a moving earthquakeless core). This first source contributes about 90% of the total magnetic field and is dipolar, which means that it has a distinctive orientation with known magnetic poles.

Most of the remnant 10% of the Earths magnetic field is attributed to local and regional magnetism, as well as electromagnetic currents created by flowing mantle plumes. That might be somewhat accurate but seems highly speculative... just like an untestable hypothesis. This second field is NOT DIPOLAR and more VARIABLE...

perhaps it is produced in a similar way than the main field but by Nemesis/black sun/Nibiru or alike? Perhaps, quite interesting possibility...

perhaps related to the apparent holes in the main field?

perhaps close related with the souther atlantic anomaly (SAA)? Could SAA, the bermuda and the dragons triangles all related to this?

Perhaps the main field has really drifted/tilted? And if so... could the later be the very cause?

Quite curious indeed.

Best hopes for a better world : )

S. who C.

Hi again, the following is an interesting phenomena i read about recently and a reinterpretation of its causes>

(A relative proof for Earths rotational empowerment by SOL)

quoted/cited literally as the source (A book on Astronomy)>

"Moreover, the speed of the Earths rotation is not uniform, which is reflected in variations in the lenght of the day. To begin with, we observe a seasonal variation: The lenght of the day decreases in summer and increases in spring, with the amplitude reaching about 0.60 second."

This information is very interesting. First, we can notice that the variation is not very large, but that is because the Earths orbit is very near to a perfect circle. Earth eccentricity is about 0.0167 or 1/60 ... so it is really close to be a circular orbit. That said, what happens while on spring in the northern hemisphere is that Earths approach its aphelion or farthest point in the orbit from the Sun; and what happens during summer is just the return toward the perihelion or closer distance from the Sun (there is not too much change in the remaining seasons). Now note that the lenght of the day increases while the Earth moves farther from the Sun and it decreases while it moves back closer to the Sun. This means that the speed of rotation decreases with distance, as expectable if SOL is the responsible force/cause for the spin/rotation AND friction is ever acting against rotation and heating the thermosphere. Isnt it most obvious?

But the book, naturally, said nothing about this... it speculates about much more bizarre hypothesis and try to pass them as almost certain knowledge.

Very very very interesting phenomena.

S. who C.

Another interesting remark from that book referring to Earths movements irregularities>

cited/quoted literally:
"Im view of these various irregularities, the time scale used by astronomers for their studies (ephemeris time) is based not on the Earths rotation but on the motions of the Sun, the Moon and the planets."

May i add... other stars?

This summarize many things if you think about it...

BTW, amateur astronomers would easily miss a change on the magnetic ax if they are not paying attention to magnetic compass as much as they paid for other references... IF

Cheers,
S. who C.

Greetings: Lad: User ID: 581751

"Terran Is More Proper !! ... As Your Planet Is ... Terra ... Or Sol # 3 ... Of This Designation !!"

What did you mean by Sol # 3?

The third planet from our sun/sol?

**This Is Correct !! ... One Of Designations For Your World !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

Greetings to ST in BG, Conduit, Team, and Paschats...

**We Are Pleased You Have Returned ... Safe & Sound ... From Your Travels/Adventures !!

With much love and gratitude to you all, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: one: User ID: 456442

any insight into power animals? mine is tiger.. or at least that is what i feel and others feel..

**No Insights ... Other Then To Say ... The Conduit Has Such Connections ... From Many Different Lifetimes ... In Which These Were Companions/Traveling Companions ... Those In Which He Was Involved With ... In Helping Them
Continue On ... To Live ... And Of Those Which Were Highly Honored & Respected ... For Who/What They Were !!

what is your race? are you zetan?

**We Call Ourselves In Your Language/Translation ... The People/One People !! ... As A "Tolerated" Nickname/Reference ... Zetas, Zeta Reticulians,
Zetans, Ect. ... Are Accepted !! ... Though Very Much ... Incorrect !!

you spoke about love before,

**Yes We Have !!

does your species not understand it, or not feel it, or both?

**Those On Terra/Earth ... With Some "Very Rare Exceptions" ... Do Not Understand Of This !! .... Suffice To Say ... Of Ourselves ... There Are "Differing Levels" ... Depending On Which Of Us ... You Have
Contact/Connections With !! ... Anything From The Very Very Very Ancient Expressions ... When We Were More Of A Warrior Caste ... Which Such Expressions Were ... Well ... Strongly Expressed ... To Of Those Times ... After The Great War ... When We Changed Ourselves & Expressed This "Idea" ... Of The Feelings ... Through The Mind ... To ... Of Those That Are Hybid/Combinations ... Of Body/Forms/Units ... Of Those Of Us ... Who Have/Are ... Animating Bodies ... To Relearn Of The Emotions ... Of These Expressions Of Feelings ... Then Finally ... To Those That Are More Advanced ... In More Advanced Forms/Bodies ... Including Those Of Hybrid Creations/Blendings ... Who Have Fuller Expressions Of Passions ... Though Governed/Balanced With ... Intelligence/Wisdom !!

if not being able to feel it.. can you explain why? i still
don't fully understand.

**Of Our Peoples ... We Had Genetically Changed Ourselves ... When On The "Apex World/Apexia" ... So As To Express Of Emotions/Feelings ... Through The Mind !! ... It Was Felt That Our ... Overwhelming Passions ... Our Need
To Repay A Slight ... A Dishonor ... For A Greater Slight ... A Greater Dishonor ... Was The Cause Of ... The Great War ... Which Destroyed All Life ... On Our Planet's Surface !! ... Of This Decision However ... To Change Ourselves ... We Rather Went Too Far !! ... & Found We Could Not "Feel" Outward Anymore .. We Could Not Express This Outwardly !! ... And So ... What We Had Once ... We Had To Find Again ... To Reincorporate This ... Within Our Beings ... Ourselves !! ... Essentially We Had To ... Reengineer ... Our Reinengineering !! ... To Reestablish A Proper Balance !!

namastae

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 585972

WOW WOW WOW This seems for something real being happening at Yellowstone on later days and NOW>

**Yes !!

Magnitude 3.4 to 3.8 many more swarms in the Caldera in Yellowstone lake - YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK updates links Page 1

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

UUSS Webicorder (Seismogram) Displays, Yellowstone Region

[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

USGS: Yellowstone Volcano Observatory

Archive of Yellowstone Updates for 2009
YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY INFORMATION RELEASE
Friday, January 2, 2009 19:30 MST (Saturday, January 3, 2009 02:30 UTC)

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]

A lot of activity even on the 3 to 4 Richter and going.

**Yes Indeed !! ... Even Of The ... "New/Changed" "Richter Scale" ... (Excuse Of Changing Being ... It Was "Incorrect" !! ... Moreso It Was
"Changed" From The "Older Calibration On The "Richter Scale" ... Knowing Full Well ... These Changes Were Occurring ... & About To Occur !! ... So As ... To Downgrade To The Naive & Dumbed Down Public ... Having Them "Believe" ... That Things Are Not .. As "Bad" ... As What They Really Are
!!

Very very curious.

**Yes ... Indeed So !!
___________________________________________________________

Hi ST,

Well you are somewhat prompt to opportunism isn't it? oo easy to critize without hinting on the errors... other times you are illustrative, somewhat informative, somewhat amazing... but thanks for the ideas and your
comments.

**We Have Quite Often ... As You Are Aware ... "Hinted" On The Errors !! ... It Is Often Difficult For Us ... To Show Restraint ... When Dealing With ... Politely Stated ... "Terrestrial Scientific Backwardness" !! ... Yes ... Every So Often ... We Relent ... & Throw Out/Put Out Some Clues !! ... As Quite Often ... Following The "Terrestrial Path To Understanding" ... Has Led You ... On A Merry Chase ... & "Off The Road" ... Onto Some Obscure Path ... Which Is Gotten You ... Quite Lost !!

**Thank You For The Comments !! ... As To The Ideas ... Well ... Someones Have To Watch Over You !! ... As Who Knows ... Where Those "Terrestrial Road Maps" Will Lead You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

A Scientist who Cares

My comments (+) on some of your later comments>

**Sigh !! ... And Just When We Thought There Was "Hope" ... Of "Enlightenment" ... Of Seeing !! ... Now It Is ... The Return To ... "Backpedaling" ... & Taking Back ... What You Said !!

+ What? Ha ha ha he he he he he ... not really... he he

**Yes ... Really !!

**This Seems To Either Be A "Fear" ... Of "Putting Yourself Out There" ... Taking A Stand ?? ... On Something That Others Might Consider ... Not Of Firm Foundations ... Or There Was The "Opps Moment" ... Where You Strayed Momentarily ... & Said Too Much !!

+ Well, not exactly

**Then HOW Exactly ???

It is another comprehension as you often said. he he he

**Yes Unfortunately So ... "Another Comprehension" !!

** (And Perhaps ?? ... "They Said" ... That You Said Too Much !! ... & You Have To Retract Your Comments !!)

+ Who? Ha ha he he he ha he he he he ..

**Who/Whom Indeed ???.

that was great ST... you make me laugh...

**Glad It Did !!

even who cares about this minor "communications"? Not to much people it seems,

**More Then ... What You Would ... Care To Admit !! ... Or Wish To State !!

that's great in some ways because we can discuss
ideas which might otherwise be "unwise" to even... mention?

**Unwise To Who/Whom ??

No ST, no one told me anything... and why should anyone would?

**Yes ... Why Should They ??? .... Hmmmm ???

Who? It is just... as you said... quite debunkable. Isn't it? he he he

**Yes ... In Your Own Style Of This !!

**If We Told You Everything ... You Would Not Learn !! ... You Might Have The Answers ... But Would Not ... Understand Them Fully !!

++ Yes, of course... however you are swampy on signaling the mistakes and prompt to criticize on the elaborations.

**Your Mistakes ... Are Your Own !! ... It Is The Way You Learn !! ... However Yes ... The Teachers Do Have The Right ... To Step In ... When One Is Straying ... Too Far Off Course !! ... And Put You Back ... On Course !!

**Well No !! ... & Your Observations ... Would Always Be ... In Error !! ... Because Your Thinking ... Is In Error !! ... Using "Their" Way There ... On Terra/Earth ... Of Thinking ... Of Seeing !! ... To Really
Understand ... To Really "See" ... You Need To Approach The Problem ... From Another Direction ... Another View/Perceptual View ... Another Base/Point Of Reference !! ... As One Might Say ... The Base You Are Working From/Working Off Of ... Has Moved !!

++ So the "base" has moved in relation to what?

**Your Perception ... Ways Of Perception ... Perceptual Thinking !!

The Solar incidence has not changed in a significant way at all, it is just as it should be for this time. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the rotational ax are more or less as expected, probably as expected. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the apparent polar ax had me perplexed, as it seems that is what had moved... but i am not sure that the apparent movement is not due to local minor fields... however it could be the main field... is this what you are suggesting as having move?

**No This Is Not It !!

**We Are Saying ... So Long As You Use ... Incorrect & Antiquated/Worn Out Methods ... To Establish What You Are Seeing ... What You Are Experiencing ... You Will Always Be In Error !!

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perhaps close related with the southern Atlantic anomaly (SAA)? Could SAA, the Bermuda and the dragons triangles all related to this?

**The "Relationship" ... On The Planet ... Is Of Aztlan ... Of "Atlantis" !! ... Bermuda Triangle, Devil's Triangle Yes!! ... Though Not The "Dragon's Triangle" (Which Is A "Different Area" !!) ... Perhaps Of The Pacific !!

Perhaps the main field has really drifted/tilted? And if so... could the later be the very cause?

**Possible ??

Quite curious indeed.

Best hopes for a better world : )

Always !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings ST..

The message this morning made no sense to me. Maybe to you. The screen was filled with the letter c or horseshoe on its side. Like below..

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It just stayed there. for awhile . Then disappeared. Then nothing else. There was a square of light toward the bottom. But I do not know if it were part of the message or light reflecting from somewhere.

What do you think?

(( Hugs))

Wispy

""Terran Is More Proper !! ... As Your Planet Is ... Terra ... Or Sol # 3 ... Of This Designation !!"

What did you mean by Sol # 3?

The third planet from our sun/sol?

**This Is Correct !! ... One Of Designations For Your World !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG"

Hmm , it is very interesting to imagine how other beings think/percieve and Organize their thoughts. What exactly did you mean by "One of Designations For your world"? Im trying to say it over in my mind and it does not make sense? maybe need a little more understanding/knowledge to clarify.

I saw a picture with the 6 sided star again and on each of the points, there was a circle of energy (in the picture) Since ive started thinking about sacred geometry this symbol is very important in very many different ways and manners in relation to Polarity, I also read in a book that if a number of chakras are enabled/balanced they form into an upside down triangle and another group from a separate source said that you can have chakras in the right side up triangle too! hmm.. Care toooo share a hint? Pretty please :) Im stuck/perplexed.

I also heard that nearly half our population here has a "pydominal muscle" its shaped like a pyramid and it helps balance everything and... well not everyone has one? does this mean that some people were designed differently, or that You would have to develop one for yourself? by... being balanced and re-balancing over a period of time?

dude..

he means that is what some call it..

like.. instead of saying earth they say sol #3

it basically means another name for it, if i am not mistaken

Thanks for the response ST. What did you mean when you said you already understand me? Are you already aware of all my thoughts/feelings? How can this be? Is there already a "higher self" version of me aboard ship or something?

Also, you say there are no true failures as long as I've tried. That is good to hear. But how do I know if I've tried/what I am supposed to be trying?

Thanks.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 585269 (OP)
1/4/2009 11:53 AM
Re: Should I reveal to the world they are here? Quote

Bob is the real deal and this is awesome info regarding Nibiru & the Anunnaki. This is a must see for anybody interested in these matters.

Project Camelot interviews Bob Dean: the Coming of Nibiru
BadMoonRising
User ID: 373223
1/4/2009 11:54 AM
Re: Should I reveal to the world they are here? Quote

Has this Bob fellow got any pictures?
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Interesting what he says, very interesting. S. who C.
Thread: Should I reveal to the world they are here? (Page 6)

interesting thread too...

or look for project camelot site...

S. who C.

Hi again ST in BG,
Thanks for your... responses? : )


**We Have Quite Often ... As You Are Aware ... "Hinted" On The Errors !! ... It Is Often Difficult For Us ... To Show Restraint ... When Dealing With ... Politely Stated ... "Terrestrial Scientific Backwardness" !! ... Yes ... Every So Often ... We Relent ... & Throw Out/Put Out Some Clues !! ... As Quite Often ... Following The "Terrestrial Path To Understanding" ... Has Led You ... On A Merry Chase ... & "Off The Road" ... Onto Some Obscure Path ... Which Is Gotten You ... Quite Lost !!

+ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...



**Thank You For The Comments !! ...
+ And to you as well : )

As To The Ideas ... Well ... Someones Have To Watch Over You !! ... As Who Knows ... Where Those "Terrestrial Road Maps" Will Lead You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

+ hmmmmmmmmm ... what you meant with that ???



A Scientist who Cares

My comments (+) on some of your later comments>

**Sigh !! ... And Just When We Thought There Was "Hope" ... Of "Enlightenment" ... Of Seeing !! ... Now It Is ... The Return To ... "Backpedaling" ... & Taking Back ... What You Said !!

+ What? Ha ha ha he he he he he ... not really... he he

**Yes ... Really !!

++ Not ... not really... but its interesting and quite curious that you insist on this.



**Then HOW Exactly ???
++ Well... such exactitude with such a subjective issue is unattainable... but lets say that it was just...

... some toughts.


It is another comprehension as you often said. he he he

**Yes Unfortunately So ... "Another Comprehension" !!
** (And Perhaps ?? ... "They Said" ... That You Said Too Much !! ... & You Have To Retract Your Comments !!)
++ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

+ Who? Ha ha he he he ha he he he he ..
**Who/Whom Indeed ???.

++ Are you... founding this .... hmmm...undermining?

++hmmmmm ???



that was great ST... you make me laugh...

**Glad It Did !!

even who cares about this minor "communications"? Not to much people it seems,
**More Then ... What You Would ... Care To Admit !! ... Or Wish To State !!

++ Care or wish? Hmmmm..... actually its obvious that not too much people and even few ones that even care to consider the ideas... but if they do, whats wrong with that? Isnt that what you want to encourage/what you encourage? Just because someone conaiser an idea it does not mean anything on his/her conviction regarding it, as he/she might feel convinced (rather than having faith) by a different one... the more explicative, the more close to reality, the best... thats why science evolve (when it does of course, unfortunately not often for some issues).

that's great in some ways because we can discuss
ideas which might otherwise be "unwise" to even... mention?

**Unwise To Who/Whom ??
++ Isnt it obvious that to those who would find the ideas or the implications... out of this type of DEBUNKABLE and reach limited media... more or less... "unconfortable"? You had stood on that many times... isnt it quite obvious?


No ST, no one told me anything... and why should anyone would?
**Yes ... Why Should They ??? .... Hmmmm ???
++ Indeed... as what you typed on the thread... why??? Perhaps for considering the possibility that you might had more things right in your "communications"? Insane?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

Who? It is just... as you said... quite debunkable. Isn't it? he he he
**Yes ... In Your Own Style Of This !!





**Well No !! ... & Your Observations ... Would Always Be ... In Error !! ... Because Your Thinking ... Is In Error !! ... Using "Their" Way There ... On Terra/Earth ... Of Thinking ... Of Seeing !! ... To Really
Understand ... To Really "See" ... You Need To Approach The Problem ... From Another Direction ... Another View/Perceptual View ... Another Base/Point Of Reference !! ... As One Might Say ... The Base You Are Working From/Working Off Of ... Has Moved !!

++ So the "base" has moved in relation to what?

**Your Perception ... Ways Of Perception ... Perceptual Thinking !!

++ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... ways of perception? Well... i do not have elaborated advanced/complex equipment at hand... you should understand of course. he he he he he ... i am not even an astronomer, although i love to wonder in these marvelous issues... i had ever wondered : )




The Solar incidence has not changed in a significant way at all, it is just as it should be for this time. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the rotational ax are more or less as expected, probably as expected. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the apparent polar ax had me perplexed, as it seems that is what had moved... but i am not sure that the apparent movement is not due to local minor fields... however it could be the main field... is this what you are suggesting as having move?

**No This Is Not It !!

++ Well thanks... in some months if i can i would check this out by myself in other... locations, perhaps it was a local magnetic effect indeed.

++ But regarding the Sun relative position in the horizon (relative to the rotational ax)... all is as expected, no substantial change at all... if i "backward" on this it is because i was mistaken, the angles are right and you can measure them with very simple tools indeed...

**We Are Saying ... So Long As You Use ... Incorrect & Antiquated/Worn Out Methods ... To Establish What You Are Seeing ... What You Are Experiencing ... You Will Always Be In Error !!

++ Might i be in error for looking at angles and positions as they are? How are these simple methods wrong, could you explain? Would you prefer i measure this on google earth or... much better... perhaps in a dream? Sorry ST, you know i dont want to sound harsh, it is that you want to ignore hard evidences/proofs and embrace beliefs and call this enlightment? But of course, you are the swampyiest.

Cheers,

S. who C.

Do all governments believe that they will have a good chance to survive nibiru's passage like previous passages or do some think like you do and they will all die anyways?

Hmmmm, at the moment i am thinking about how neither opposite can exist without the other... hmm, what do I have to do to receive what it is I desire... There it Is again!! The frequency in my head!! That's it!

Greetings ST..

The message this morning ( Monday).. First there was a heavy deluge of many length wavelengths from the West/Northwest. A very heavy storm.They seemed to scintillate so I think it means electromagnet/radiation.

Then the scene changed to the cracks in the earth. They have increased in number of fractures from a few days ago.
Like an eggshell, cracked all over.

Then the scene changed to whirling of dust/wind/smoke?
There still was a vortex around Yellowstone.

That is all I remember. I get mezmerized looking at them sometimes.

Guess... activity is increasing along with effects to the crust. More fractures occuring. More faultlines. Energy increasing. NorthWest is very active.

((hugs))

Wispy

Hi ST,

Just have a quick question. Hope you're doing fine.
Anyone in general can respond, if they wish.

How does one know if one's desire is indeed one's purpose. After eliminating that which is ego, although it still makes a small appearance every now and then, there should be no doubt that one's desire is indeed aligned with one's true self so to speak. However, I do not wish to engage myself in anything that derives from my ego, hence i am seeking certainty in myself to know that i am indeed desiring that which i should desire to do.

I have gotten my own responses, and they were as follows
"you don't need prove because you already know it's the truth. That is why you're not giving yourself any major signs etc because you only need believe that you are who you are within your desires. "

I guess maybe the only fear i know now is the one of myself not being part of it. I fear that i cannot trust myself. or at least not the one outside. I can trust the inner but i don't want to allow myself to just believe in myself only to feel better after. I cannot make a mistake.

See how i've managed to escape the old yet still be running in a circle of self doubt. What do you suggest?

ST you talk about the changing in the ricker scale , could you explain in more detail?

determining earthquakes and such, what has changed and could you explain how this is calculated or just how much roughly this would throw off a quake, like the 3's and 4's on the ricker in modern day calculations, what would they have been in previous ricker scale calculations and when roughly did whoever is in charge change the way they calculated earthquakes, was it withen the last 5 years that they made this change?

i meant the recent earthquakes near yellowstone that were 3's and 4's on the ricker scale.

How are you doing in the moment ! ?

I am curious about the 5 elements, how to have this energy readily available for my own use, would i need to make a request for my receptors to the energy?

I am looking at the sky and there's a lot of energy (you referred to it as life) and I'm wondering how to accumulate life for myself because I'm realizing I am going to need a higher amount of energy in the coming moments. (any relation to the 'tree of life' as seen in crop circles?)

Thankyou again and farewell until we communicate again.

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 4173

Greetings ST..

The message this morning (Sunday: January 4, 2009) made no sense to me. Maybe to you. The screen was filled with the letter c or horseshoe on its side. Like below..

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**Hmmm !!! ... Oopsie !! ... When Reformatting ... This Did Not Come Out ... Quite The Way It Was Shown Of Your Posting !!

It just stayed there. for awhile . Then disappeared. Then
nothing else.

**Hmmmm !!!

There was a square of light toward the bottom. But I do not
know if it were part of the message or light reflecting from somewhere.

What do you think?

**Well ... I Think You May Have ... Answered Part Of The Question !! ... Indeed ... From The Side ... These Do Look Like ... Horses Hooves/Horse Shoes !! ... Of Which Is An Ancient Symbol !! .... One Of Ancient Cultures That Had Horses ... Was Of Aztlan/"Atlantis" !! ... To This It Seems ... With All The "C''s ... In Some Respects ... There Was Some ... Horsing Around !!! .... And They Wanted You To "C" (See) A Pattern !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

**Now On The Seriousness Of This However ... When Looking At This Last (Sunday) Night ... I Had This Information Come To Me !!

1. (Sung) ... The Sailor Went To CCC (Sea Sea Sea) .... To C (See) What He Could CCC (See See See) ... And All That He Could CCC (See See See) ... Was Bottom Of The Ocean CCC (See See See !!)

**This Is A "Sung Reference" To Aztlan/Atlantis ... Of The Sea (Greenish Waters) ... Of A Many Many Many +++ Descendant(s) Of The Ancient Azlantians ... Who Is A Sea Fairer ... Having The Sea ... In His Blood .... Searching
& Seeking Out ... His Ancient Roots ... His Ancient Heritage !! ... Aztlan/"Atlantis" ... Which Is On The Bottom Of The Ocean .... Of Which It Will Be ... And IS Rising !! ... And When It Does ... This Will Flood ...
The Entire Eastern Seaboard !!

2. (Sung) ... Do You See What I See ?? ... (Repeats In Echo) ... A Star A Star ... Shining In The Night ... It Will Bring Us ... Goodness & Light ... It Will Bring Us Goodness & Light !!

**This Is A Reference To Nibiru ... The "Star" ... (Actually A Planet !!) ... Which Is Seen At Night !! ... And Of It's Coming ... Of Those Of The Elders ... The Creators ... And Of The Cleansing Of The Planet: Terra/Earth .... It Will Remove ... Of Those Adverse & Detrimental Things ... Which Have Been Done !! ... & Evolve The Planet ... And All Life/Lifeforms ... On It !!

3. Seeing The C's ... Having A Vision Of ... A Large Pyramid ... Don't Know Where ?? ... The Water Is Sea Green Above ... But Below ... A Bluish !! ... Deep Deep Waters !!! ... Ruins Of Buildings ... Marble Buildings ... Temples .... Pre-Ionic In Design !! ... Huge Pillars !!! ... The Pyramid Itself Is Very Very Tall !!! ... Huge At The Base !! ... A Square Base ... With Sides That Are More Triangular ... And Slope Up To The Top ... Of Which Instead Of A Point ... There Is More A Squared Off Platform ... Where There Is ... A Giant Crystal !! ... Reminds Me Very Much Of The Mexican/South American Step Pyramids ... Though No Steps I Can See/Make Out !!

**The Whole Thing Looks Like ... Interlaced Bricks Of Some Sort !! ... .Which Would Protect Against Earthquakes !! .... It Looks Smooth & Shiny ... Glazed !! ... There Is A Light Pulsing ... Sending Out A Signal ... A Beacon .. .Beckoning/Attracting ... Almost Like A Lighthouse !! ... This I Felt Was Activated Of The Presence Of Nibiru Approaching !! ... Of Which This Will All Rise To The Surface Once Again !! ... And When This Does .. Great Waves ... At Least 100 Miles Inland ... Will Flood The East Coast/Eastern Seaboard !!

**At The Same/Close To Same Time ... (Of Aztlan/"Atlantis" Rising) .... The West Coast Will Be Inundated ... Things Will Activate There ... Upheaving, Tearing Away At The Land ... In Which The Land Sinks ... & All That Is Left ... Are Peaks ... Islands !!!

**The East Coast Will Be Luckier In Some Respects !! ... While It Will Be More Flooded ... Most Of The Land
Will Remain Intact !!
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Greetings ST..

The message this morning (Monday: January 5, 2009) .. First there was a heavy deluge of many length wavelengths from the West/Northwest. A very heavy storm. They seemed to scintillate so I think it means
electromagnet/radiation.

**This Could Very Well Be !!

Then the scene changed to the cracks in the Earth. They have increased in number of fractures from a few days ago.
Like an eggshell, cracked all over.

**Hmmmm !!!

Then the scene changed to whirling of dust/wind/smoke?
There still was a vortex around Yellowstone.

**Very Very Interesting !!!

That is all I remember. I get mesmerized looking at them
sometimes.

**Oh Indeed !!! .... And Most Understandable !! .... As The Conduit Would Too !! ... And Many Of Us Here ... Would Be Most Fascinated ... Watching This !!

Guess... activity is increasing along with effects to the crust. More fractures occurring. More faultlines. Energy increasing. Northwest is very active.

**Yes Indeed !!! ... These Things Are Occurring !!! ... And Happening ... At A Greater/Increased Rate !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Lad: User ID: 581751

Hmm , it is very interesting to imagine how other beings
think/perceive and Organize their thoughts.

**Yes It Is !!

What exactly did you mean by "One of Designations For your world"?

**It Means ... This Is How Your Planet ... May Be Designated !! ... Rather Then Calling It ... Terra/Earth ... It May Be Designated As ... Sol #3 ...
The 3rd Planet (From Perspective) ... From Your Star/Sun "Sol" !!

I'm trying to say it over in my mind and it does not make sense? maybe need a little more understanding/knowledge
to clarify.

**Which We Just Related !!

I saw a picture with the 6 sided star again and on each of the points, there was a circle of energy (in the picture)

**Most Interesting !!!

Since i've started thinking about sacred geometry this symbol is very important in very many different ways and manners in relation to Polarity,

**This Does Not Have To Do ... With "Polarity" !! ... Much More Advanced Teachings !!

I also read in a book that if a number of chakras are enabled/balanced they form into an upside down triangle and another group from a separate source said that you can
have chakras in the right side up triangle too! hmm..

**Those That Teach In "Chakras" ... Are Only "Touching The Surface" ... In The Knowledge & Understanding ... Of What This Means !!

Care toooo share a hint? Pretty please :) I'm stuck/perplexed.

**We Have Related "Hints/Suggestions" !!

I also heard that nearly half our population here has a
"pydominal muscle" its shaped like a pyramid and it helps balance everything and... well not everyone has one? does this mean that some people were designed differently,

**Each Being Is Unique ... In It's Own Way !!

or that You would have to develop one for yourself?
by... being balanced and re-balancing over a period of time?

**No ... Simply That ... Each Is Unique To & Of Themselves !!
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Hmmmm, at the moment i am thinking about how neither opposite can exist without the other...

**Each Is Whole & Complete Of Their Energies !! ... Therefore ... They Can & Do Exist ... Independently Of One Another !! ... However It Is ... The Interaction & The Joining/Combining ... That Creates The 3rd Principle ...
That Which Has It's Own Uniqueness & Properties !!

hmm, what do I have to do to receive what it is I desire... There it Is again!! The frequency in my head !! That's it!

**Hmmmm !!!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: one: User ID: 456442

**In Response To: Lad 581751 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

"Hmm , it is very interesting to imagine how other beings
think/perceive and Organize their thoughts.

What exactly did you mean by "One of Designations For your world"? I'm trying to say it over in my mind and it does not make sense? maybe need a little more understanding/knowledge to clarify."

dude..

he means that is what some call it..

**It Is A "Designation" ... Of What Others May Name/Classify The Planet ... Which Is Also Referred To As ... Terra/Earth !!

like.. instead of saying Earth they say sol #3

**They May !!

it basically means another name for it, if i am not mistaken

**Another Designation !! ... What You Would Call ... A "Name" !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 585606

Thanks for the response ST.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

What did you mean when you said you already understand me?

**Just That We Do !!

Are you already aware of all my thoughts/feelings?

**We Have Been Together ... Aboard !!

How can this be? Is there already a "higher self" version of me aboard ship or something?

**You Have Visited !! ... Also There Is ... Another Of You ... We Are Familiar With !!

Also, you say there are no true failures as long as I've tried. That is good to hear.

**It Is ... How It Is !!

But how do I know if I've tried/what I am supposed to be trying?

**It Is Not To Worry !! ... All Proceeds ... As It Were !! .... As It Is Supposed To !!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 586005

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 585269 (OP)
1/4/2009 11:53 AM
Re: Should I reveal to the world they are here?

Bob is the real deal and this is awesome info regarding Nibiru & the Anunnaki. This is a must see for anybody interested in these matters.

Project Camelot interviews Bob Dean: the Coming of Nibiru

BadMoonRising
User ID: 373223
1/4/2009 11:54 AM
Re: Should I reveal to the world they are here?

Has this Bob fellow got any pictures?
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Interesting what he says, very interesting. S. who C.

Thread Title: Should I reveal to the world they are here? (Page #6)

Thread: Should I reveal to the world they are here? (Page 6)

interesting thread too...

or look for project camelot site...

**Hmmm !!! ... Most Curious !! ... Thank You For The Information & The Link !!
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Hi again ST in BG,

Thanks for your... responses? : )

**You Are Most Welcome !!

As To The Ideas ... Well ... Someone's Have To Watch Over You !! ... As Who Knows ... Where Those "Terrestrial Road Maps" Will Lead You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

+ hmmmmmmmmm ... what you meant with that ???

**Just What We Meant !! ... We Watch Over ... & Guide When Necessary !!

My comments (+) on some of your later comments>

**Sigh !! ... And Just When We Thought There Was "Hope" ... Of "Enlightenment" ... Of Seeing !! ... Now It Is ... The Return To ... "Backpedaling" ... & Taking Back ... What You Said !!

+ What? Ha ha ha he he he he he ... not really... he he

**Yes ... Really !!

++ Not ... not really... but its interesting and quite curious that you insist on this.

**We Insist ... When The "Signs" Are There !! ... When These Are ... Put Before Us !! .. Of This ... They Are Evaluated !!

**Then HOW Exactly ???

++ Well... such exactitude with such a subjective issue is
unattainable... but lets say that it was just ... some thoughts.

**Hmmmm !!

It is another comprehension as you often said. he he he

+ Who? Ha ha he he he ha he he he he ..

**Who/Whom Indeed ???.

++ Are you... founding this .... hmmm...undermining?

++hmmmmm ???

**We Are "Curious Beings" ... & You Aroused Our Curiosity !!

even who cares about this minor "communications"? Not to much people it seems,

**More Then ... What You Would ... Care To Admit !! ... Or Wish To State !!

++ Care or wish? Hmmmm..... actually its obvious that not too much people and even few ones that even care to consider the ideas...

**It Is Of Nativity ... To Believe ... That Such Informations & Knowleges Presented Here & Elsewhere ... Are Just Read ... Disseminated ... By Those Who Would Use ... What We Relate ... For Beneficial Purposes !! ...
Therefore Of Ourselves & Our Conduit ... The Restrictions On Conversing In Certain Areas ... To Prevent Misuse & Abuse !!

but if they do, what's wrong with that?

**There Is Nothing ... "Wrong With That" !! ... It Is ... As We Have Just Stated !!

Isn't that what you want to encourage/what you encourage?

**Thinking Is Always Encouraged !! ... Misuse For Non-Beneficial Purposes ... Is Not Encouraged !!

Just because someone conaiser an idea it does not mean
anything on his/her conviction regarding it, as he/she might feel convinced (rather than having faith) by a different one... the more explicative, the more close to reality, the best...

that's why science evolve (when it does of course, unfortunately not often for some issues).

**Terrestrial Sciences !!! ... We Often Deal With ... Cleaning Up Their Messes !! .... Of Laboratory Experiments .. .That Backfired ... In Which These Experiments Were Presented As "Successful" (The Real Test Results Hidden Away !!) ... Then Such Is Applied ... In An Open Environment !! ... With No Care Or Concern ... To What Could Happen ... To Life ... To The Environment !! ... All For The Love Of Money ... For Power/Prestige ... Fame ... & To Keep Their "Research Contracts" Flowing In !! ... So Much Pain & Suffering On Terra/Earth ... (& Yes On Other Worlds !!) ... Has Been
Achieved ... In Same/Similar Fashions !!

that's great in some ways because we can discuss ideas which might otherwise be "unwise" to even... mention?

**Unwise To Who/Whom ??

++ Isn't it obvious that to those who would find the ideas or the implications... out of this type of DEBUNKABLE and reach limited media... more or less... "uncomfortable"? You had stood on that many times... isn't
it
quite obvious?

**Yes ... But We Are Aware Of This !! ... Was Wondering However ... If You Were Aware !!

No ST, no one told me anything... and why should anyone would?

**Yes ... Why Should They ??? .... Hmmmm ???

++ Indeed... as what you typed on the thread... why??? Perhaps for considering the possibility that you might had more things right in your "communications"? Insane?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

**We Notice The Ebb & Flow !! ... And When This Is Disrupted ... & Most Abruptly At That ... With A "Positional Change" ... We ... "Sit Up & Take Notice" !!

Who? It is just... as you said... quite debunkable. Isn't it? he he he

**Yes ... In Your Own Style Of This !!

**Well No !! ... & Your Observations ... Would Always Be ... In Error !! ... Because Your Thinking ... Is In Error !! ... Using "Their" Way There ... On Terra/Earth ... Of Thinking ... Of Seeing !! ... To Really
Understand ... To Really "See" ... You Need To Approach The
Problem ... From Another Direction ... Another View/Perceptual View ... Another Base/Point Of Reference !! ... As One Might Say ... The Base You Are
Working From/Working Off Of ... Has Moved !!

++ So the "base" has moved in relation to what

**Your Perception ... Ways Of Perception ... Perceptual Thinking !!

++ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... ways of perception?

**Indeed So !!

Well... i do not have elaborated advanced/complex equipment at hand...

**Yes ... We Understand Of This !! ... Though We Are Not Talking About "Equipment" ... Rather ... Perceptual Awareness !! ... How You View Things !! ... A Simple Case For This ... Is Looking Through ... A Light Refracting
Telescope !! ... And Seeing Of That ... Of Those Things Most Distant ... As Happening ... In Your Termed: Current (Artificial) Linear Time Frame !! ... If You Would ... By Using Non-Advanced Terrestrial Technologies
... Physically Journey To A Distant World ... The Moments It Would Take To Arrive ... By Your Craft ... Of It's Slower Methods Of Propulsion ... The Whole View ... The Whole Perception Of The World You Are About To Visit ...
Would Have Changed !! ... So Essentially Of One "Point Of View" ... You Are ... Looking In ... On That Planet's "Past" ... Versus ... What Is Happening/Transpiring ... In The Now !!

you should understand of course. he he he he he ... i am not even an astronomer,

**You May Be ... More Then You Think !! ... You Just Need ... Some Help ... In Changing Your Focus !!

although i love to wonder in these marvelous issues... i had ever wondered :)

**Oh Indeed !! ... And Of Course ... You Can ... Go There ... If So Desired !!

The Solar incidence has not changed in a significant way at all, it is just as it should be for this time. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the rotational ax are more or less as expected, probably as expected. The angle for the dusk given in relation to the apparent polar ax had me perplexed, as it seems that is what had moved... but i am not sure that the apparent movement is not due to local minor fields... however it could be the main field... is this what you are suggesting as having move?

**No This Is Not It !!

++ Well thanks... in some months if i can i would check this out by myself in other... locations, perhaps it was a local magnetic effect indeed.

**If You Have ... Some Months To Observe !! ... To ... Check This Out !!

**We Are Saying ... So Long As You Use ... Incorrect &
Antiquated/Worn Out Methods ... To Establish What You Are Seeing ... What You Are Experiencing ... You Will Always Be In Error !!

++ Might i be in error for looking at angles and positions as they are?

**Yes !! ... From That View/Viewpoint ... You Would Not Know ... How They Actually Are !!

How are these simple methods wrong, could you explain?

**Perceptual Awareness !! ... As To Explaining This ... For You To Understand !! ... Well ....

Would you prefer i measure this on google Earth

**Same Problem Persists !! ... And Made That Much Worse/Compounded !!

or... much better... perhaps in a dream?

**In An ... "Out Of Body State" ... Would Be An Option !!

Sorry ST, you know i don't want to sound harsh, it is that you want to ignore hard evidences/proofs

**These Are Not ... Hard Evidences/Proofs !! ... They Are Of ... Limited Awareness/Perceptions !!

and embrace beliefs and call this enlightenment?

**There Are Many Things ... Many Many Things ... Some Pretty Basic !! ... That Are Way Way Way ... Beyond Your Primitive Sciences ... There On Terra/Earth !!

But of course, you are the swampyiest.

**We Are ... As We Are !!

Cheers,

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 529974

Hi ST,

Just have a quick question.

**Yes Of Course !!

Hope you're doing fine.

**Thank You !! .... We Are Getting Ready ... Preparing ... For What Is To Be !!

How does one know if one's desire is indeed one's purpose.

**It Is Difficult !! ... As While We Know ... Know Of Ourselves ... Understand Of Ourselves ... For The Most Part ... Of Those Who Have Not Awakened .. In 3rd Density ... On Terra/Earth ... Do Not !! ... This Is Do To Many Factors ... Of The Lower Vibratory Plane ... The Energies Exposed To ... The Pollutants ... Foods Ones Eat ... A Great List Of Factors !! ... Along With This ... Are Those Who Purposely ... Do Not Wish You ... To Be Awake & Alert ... As If You Were ... You Would See/Perceive ... What Has Been Going On ... On Terra/Earth ... And As The Ancient Terrestrial Expression Would Have It ... "Heads Would Roll" !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

interesting history about your people..

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the triangle is a sacred being.. i have been seeing more and more of them lately....... any insight as to how i can have a triangle help me to travel time?

do i form a star of david in my meditations, be inside it, and use it as a light ship to travel?

were the pyramids and other 'ancient mysteries' on Earth created by the same group of ETs who control the planet now?

i read truthism.com ... must say.. its quite a read... made me think a lot. don't know what to make of that. still haven't had an OBE. getting closer though.

i see more and more doom day by day.. is Niburu close? i feel what is expected by a majority of people to happen on 12/21/2012 will indeed happen before then.

any insight as to what ascension actually is? what happens to our bodies? is ascension possible before what is supposed to happen 12/21/2012?

any insight as to what the real event that ascension is?

namaste