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Last word : From my OWN EXPERIENCE, to help efficiently someone, you HAVE to very well KNOW him. Without that, you just masturbate your ego beleiving you do something "good".
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The 4th density perception is at my Awareness not the
only, absolute Truth. I doubt Your cycle is finished
at that point,

You known everything of Multiverse.

**Well ... We ... Do Get Around !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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Well, King Arthur of Camelot. i thought You could look into past lives ?

**That Would Be ... Artur Pendragon ... Of The Pendragons ... Of Draconian Linage !! ... (Well As "Enki" ... My Mother ... Was/Is ... A "Water Dragon"
... My Father ... A Dinoid Being !!) ... So This Is Of ... Ancient Heritage !!

i thought You could look into past lives ?

**Concurrent Lives/Lifetimes !! ... Not "Past Lives" !! ... As To The Conduit's Knowledge ... Of His Lifetime/Energies ... Of Artur Pendragon ... (Which Is Different Then ... The Writings & "History Books" !!) ... We Feel ... When It Is ... Of The Moment ... To Share With Him ... Of Other Things ... Other Knowledge ... Pertaining Of That Lifetime !! ... So For NOW ... It Is Only ... That He Needs To Know ... Of "Certain Things" !! ... Such As A Few ... Ornery/Silly ... "Draconian Secrets" ... One Involving ... Myrddin ("Merlin") ... Hee Hee Hee !!!
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Neither Your claim is right, there are no Angels. There are.

**If You Believe There Are !! ... We However ... Do Not !!

Sure, I did communicate with them.

**We Do Not Doubt ... That You Had Communications !! ... However Of "Angels" ... This Is A "Religious Construct" .... How Do We Know ?? ... Try Having To Get In & Out Of Those ... "Winged Costumes" ... To Appear To
Those ... Of ""Religious Backgrounds" ... To Make Them Feel At Ease !! ... It's One Thing ... To Naturally Have Wings !! .... (Such As The Conduit In One Lifetime ... Possessing ... "Bird Being Wings" (And A "Bird Being Body"
!!) ... But It's Quite Another ... To Have To Manifest As Such ... Because Those Of Religion ... Have Purposely Mistold/Misread ... The Idea Of Floating ... Of Flight ... As Needing Wings !!! ... Or As "Arthur Ford"
Said ... In Communication From ... "The Other Side" ... Dictating This Through "The Guides" ... To Ruth Montgomery ... "We Float ... We Don't Flap" !! ... Such A Wonderful Sense Of Humor !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

So if they are no Angels, tell me what they are.

**Well ... It Is Difficult ... To Put This ... Into A "Language Form" ... In 3rd Density !! ... We Understand ... But How To Relay This ?? ... Hmmm !!
... I Am Hearing ... Maybe They Will Understand This ?? ... Of Levels Beyond 4th Density ... That Of Non-Corporeal Form ... Of That Level Of Being/Beingness ... Of Those Teachings ... There Are Those ... That Become
Guides ... Advisors & So Forth !! ... This Is What You May Be Describing !! ... Of Which They May Manifest In Many Different Looks ... Depending On What May Seem Acceptable ... To Those They Appear To ... Communicate With !!

As You would definitely could tell me,

**We Just Tried ... To Relate Of ... This Thought ... Of What You Are Describing !!

the name of that being who did communicate with me.
As to be polite to not reveal identity, You may say the first and last letter of the name. I am sure You can rewind the video recorder.

**On That Level ... Names Are ... Now How Do You Say It There ... A Non Sequitor !! ... Though They Make ... "Take On/Use" Certain Names ... Again ... For Your Comfort ... And Ease Of Communication !! ... Alas ... While It
Is True ... Of Your Analogy ... We Can Surely ... Rewind The "Tape Recorder" ... However (And It Is Not An Attempt Not To Answer !!) ... These Things Are ... For You .... Not For Us !! ... Private Of Affairs !! ... So They Do Come Under ... Rules In Regards To Confidentiality !! ... We Are Denied Access To Such Records ... Unless There Would Be ... "Sufficient Cause" !!
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In Energy form, who can hide themselves from every realm,
because they do not incarnate, they are 'behind' the realm of incarnations. But can manifest, disclose themselves if they want. Interact as communicate as well.

**Those Aren't "Angels" ... Though They May Manifest That Way ... If That Is How You ... Chose To See Them !!

They are behind manifestation in matter. Transcendent. But they do communicate telepathic, as they can interact in matter.

**Of Course They Can !! ... Which Is ... Of What Those ... Who Are Learning The Lessons ... Of Advisors/Guides ... On Higher Levels !!
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Those who are ignorant, don't known, but some do ! Those who are trained musicians.

**We Are Far Removed ... From Such Things !!! ... You Need To Attend ... Our Classes !!

This was rejected on Your behalf. Remember ?

**Well We Teach ... Of The "Science Of Harmonics" ... Of Which "Music" Is Just ... One Tiny Example !!

As I don't want anymore teachings at all.

**Well We Can Agree ... As Far As "Teaching" Applied There !! ... Don't Blame You !!!

Work, teachings, learn ! Pff.

**You Never Stop Learning ... And We & Others ... Never Stop Teaching !! ... Though Our "Methods" ... Are Far Much Better ... Then Those Found ... Of 3rd Density ... Terra/Earth !! ... And Well ... They Might Even Involve ... Of "Hands On Experience" ... Cough Cough Cough
!! .... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... With What You Are Mentioning ... With Being Happy ... A Beautiful Woman ... On A Beautiful Planet !! ... For You See !! ... Teachings/Instructions ... Come In Many Forms !!! ... Many Ways !!!
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yes, we know we are dumb.

**Well ... We Try Not To Say "Dumb" ... & Attempt To Hold Back On Criticism There !! ... But There Are Times ... That Saying ... "Slow Learners" ... Just Does Not Cover ... All The Bases !! ... And While We Understand ... All The Reasons Involved In This ... Which There Are Those Things ... Which You Are Not At Fault For !! ... (And Those Things You Are !!) .... At Times ... At Moments ... Even The Teachers/Instructors ... Can Become Frustrated !!

And You are the mighty teacher, who knows all.

**Well ... It Is Not An "Ego Pump" ... To Say ... That We ARE ... A Master Instructor ... Who Teaches/Instructs Aboard Ship !! .... And We & Others Of Us ... Do Know ... Far More ... Then What Is Taught There !!
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All manifestation is Music. Is vibration.

**No ... "Music" Is Just ... One Tiny Aspect ... One Tiny Expression ... Of The Science Of Harmonics !! .... So Too Of An Aspect ... Is That Of ... "Vibration" !!

Beyond that,

**First One Needs To Understand ... Of The Teachings Of ... The Science Of Harmonics !! ... Then You Can ... Go From There !!

You are with the One.

**With All The Universe(s) ... The Cosmos ... That Is ... What You Are Always !! ... Though It Seems ... Have To Go Through "Certain Steps" ... To Gain ... Or Regain ... Of This Understanding ... This Knowledge !!
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yes, it is pretty arrogant at some times.
Looking down to us who are in the sh.t
Looking down to us, who were dumped.
With no support at all in this dark sh.thole

**We Are Sorry ... That It Appears As Such !! ... We Are Above The Things ... That You Have There !! ... This Is Fact !!

**As To Looking Down Upon You ... For That Which Has Been Done ... To Terra/Earth ?? ... Why Would We Not !! ... We Are Not Responsible For Your Messes !! ... Though We Usually ... & Most Often .... For Your Sake ... & For Others That Live There ... & For Your Cosmic Neighbors ... End Up ... Cleaning Things Up !! ...

**We Know Many Of You ... Do Not Have Control/Abilities ... Over & To Rectify Many Situations There !! ... Though We Are Not Grouping Those There
... That Are Helping ... Who Are Showing Respect To The Planet ... & All Life Of It's Energies .... As Villains ...

... Just Those ... Who Have Used & Misused Terra/Earth ... For Their Own ... Ill Gotten Gains !! ... Who Have Disrespected All Life & Life Energies There !! ... It Is These ... Of Those Kind ... Who Have Attempted To Make The
Planet ... As A "Garbage Pit" ... To Further Their Own Gains !! ... So Let Judgment Be Rendered Upon Them !! ... Those That Seek To Ruin Things In This Nature ... Let Them Be ... Transformed Into Worms Of The Soil !! ... In This Way ... They Will Be Of Benefit ... And Will Learn By This
Existence ... To Foster A Respect Towards & Of Life !!

And Your message of hope is, we clean the place !

**It Would Be ... If You Were Able To Do This !! ... So As You Cannot !! ... This Will Be Done ... For You !!

We kill Your current body, put You in another,

**No ... Not Accurate !! ... The Planet Is Evolving ... All Life Is Evolving On The Planet !! ... Those 3rd Density Bodies Are Temporary ... And Not Designed ... Not Made ... For Higher Energy/Vibrational Exposures ... So ...
As These Energies Are Coming To Terra/Earth ... You Will Have To Vacate ... The Terrestrial Bodies ... (As They Will Shut Down & Cease To Function !!) ... And Move Into Those Bodies ... Which Have Been Created ... For Such
Newer Lessons/Teachings ... For Such Higher Energy/Vibrational Exposures !!

through pain, fear and misery,

**The Cleansing Phase Is Needed !! ... This Is Included With ... The Transitional Phase ... Of Moving To ... A Higher Energy/Vibratory Plane ... Another Dimension/Area Of Space ... And Of The Inhabiting Of ... 4th Density Bodies !!

**Of Such Pain, Fear, Misery ... This Is Only What ... You Paint It To Be ... Make It To Be !! ... Of Suffering There ... For Those Who Chose To Stay ... Most Will Be ... "Put To Sleep" !! ... Such As It Would Be ... By The
Very Pressures Experienced Along ... That Of Which Will Be Unleashed !! ... In Which You Would Lose Consciousness ... And Exit Those Forms !!

**Yes .... There Will Be Those ... Who Chose To ... Who Desired To ... Go Through The Whole Of The Changes !! ... If They Do Not Exit ... From The Damage To The Bodies ... & Survive ... Of The Preliminaries ... & The Main
Passage & Follow Through ... Then After The Volcanoes Have Spend Of Their Energy ... & Cool ... Then Will Come ... Of The Flash Freezing !! ... In Which This Will Happen So Suddenly ... That You Will Not Know ... What Has
Happened !! ... You Will Discover ... Hmmm ?? ... The Body No Longer Functions ... Wonder What Is The Matter !! ... Go Outside Of This ... In An Energy State ... & See That The Body ... Is Frozen Stiff !! ... Then You Will Realize ... That Body No Longer Can Provide Of Your Needs ... Then You Will Exit !! ... All Of These Things Happening ... Very Quickly !!

but don't worry, You will be in 4th density afterwards.

**Yes ... You Will !! ... It Is Amazing To Us ... That Those Of Terrestrial Forms ... Seem To Know ... So Much About Life !! ... But So Little ... About ... What They Term "Death" !! ... (Which There Actually Is ... No Such
Thing !! ... Only Change !!) .... The Process Is ... Very Simple !! ... Rather Then Making It Out To Be ... A Gloom & Doom Kind Of Thing ... It Is Simply ... One Part Of That ... Which Is Not Understood ... Not Taught There !! ... And Different Ones (Can We Say "Religions" & Those Profiting On Death !!) ... Have Taken Advantage Of Such Things !! ... For Their Personal Profit & Gains !! ... To Us ... It Is No More ... No Less ... Then
Changing From One Outfit Of Clothes ... & Putting On Another !! ... Suit Up ... Good To Go !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Well. This sucks.

**No ... It Is Far Different ... Then The Ways ... Things Are Taught There !! .... And Far Different ... Then What You ... Make It Out To Be !!
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Well, I am pretty sure, when we meet each other after some time, You would be surprised of my Comprehension.

**Well Of Course !! ... When We Meet Up ... In ET Form ... Without A Doubt !!
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You still try to explain anyway. In easy words, easy means. If not, it is dogma.

**We Have No Dogmas Or Catmas Or Ratmas Here !! ... But We Do Have ... Dogons ... Pashchats ... Giant Rat Beings !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Do not avoid the point.

**Well ... We Were Having A Bit Of An "ET Joke" !! ... As You See !! ... "Dogma" ... Is Another "Relgious Term" ... Used To Control & Manipulate ... The Masses !! ... We Have No Such Things Here !! ... But We Were Quite Accurate In Saying ... That There Are .... Dogons (Dog Beings), Paschats (Lionine Beings) .... & Yes ... Even Giant Rat Beings ... That Are Here !! ... Amongst Many Other Wonderful & Silly Kinds !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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You may give Your remarks, but telling, people will be punished because they express their vision, their belief, well this is dictatorship.

**Well Telling Of How Anu (Father) Is ... (And He Does Watch Over His Son Enki/Ea ... Even If He Is ... In Terrestrial Embodiment !!) ... Is Simply Stating Of Fact !! ... He Can Have ... Quite A Temper !! .... And He
Does ... "Tap In" .... To See For Himself ... What Is Going On !!
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You need to hurry, soon all will be killed by the
released virus. As many tricks will come out of the hat.
As You stated, some things will move to 4D as well.
Well...

**We Are Doing Our Best !!
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Destroyed all shells of current living forms.
Cleansing as You wish. For me, it is a beautified name for destruction.

**We Have Said ... Why This Needs To Be !! ... Of The "Cleansing" !!
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**You Are Simply Non-Knowledgeable ... Of How Things Work ... Of How They Function & Operate !! ... Such Would Be Easy ... If It Was Simply ... "A Garden" !! ... It Is Not !! ... And Neither Are We ... "Pulling Weeds" !! ... Of The Need To Cleanse The Surface Of The Whole ... Of
Terra/Earth ... This Is Needed ... & Shall Be Done !!

Well, I don't want to be in it, if this happens.

**You May Or May Not !! ... We Do Not Know !!

I do not agree with that method. I doubt this will happen too.

**Whether You Agree Or Not ... It Is ... How It Is !! ... As To Your Doubts ... This Does Not Matter !! ... Such Will Occur !!

As it is not fair to give pain to the innocent.
it may be short, but it will be.

**Things Happen ... As They Will Happen !! ... Life Is Not Always Pleasant ... But That Is What Is Usually Chosen !!
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If Your race is so powerful as You pretend, you could very easy beam up the weed, those who are of bad intentions, full of greed and power.. And move them to other places, where they belong.

**Steps Are Underway For This !! ... We Cannot Go Into Details !! ... Though To Say ... It Will Be Handled !!

Perfect. I would see this with my own eyes. Then I believe You.

**Such Is Understood !!
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**Your Thought Of Beauty Is Admirable !! .... However As To How This Will Happen ... You Don't Understand !!

Well, I was the first to post on this board, there would be a split of Earth in a 3 density and 4 density. btw, I got it from the 'Guides'.

**OH !! ... (OK !!) ... You Were The 1st "Supposedly" To Post Of This !! ... This Does Not Mean ... Of This Information ... You Got ... From The "Guides" ... Was Understood !! ... Or Perhaps It Was Not ... Fully Relayed
??
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There are people on Earth, who made valid contact with the One. For sure, You would disagree with.

**If This Is ... How They Think !!

Well on this point, You need to study further.

**No ... We Don't !!

You rejected the work of Neale Donald Walsch.

**Why Shouldn't We ?? ... They Don't Know !!

So tell me, how can the information in his work,
in his books, come forward to the people around 2000 (human
time), as almost SAME information was told me ten years before from another person, who didn't known Neale at all.

**Doesn't Mean ... That This "Other Person" ... Was Correct Either !!

So if this information is not valid, who is the broadcaster. Look to the recorder.

**We Look To The Source Of Such ... And Of The Source Is ... "Terrestrial Bound" .... "Coloring" Such Informations ... As Through Self ... Or Even ... To Present This To The Public ... Then We Do Dismiss This ... As Invalid !!
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Describing it as 'illusions'. Because Your race is unaware, yet.

**We Are Fully Aware ... Of The "False Reality" ... The
"Artificial Reality" ... That They Live ... Of Their Moments There !! .... It Is Easy For Us ... To "Look Down" ... To Look Upon The Planet ... To See & Witness This !! ... However ... It Is Rather Difficult ... For Those There ... To Do The Same With Us !! ... To Perceive Of How We Are ... Through Their ... Limited Awareness ... Their "Illusions" ... Lived ... Yet ... Not Conscious Of !!

Sure, but we can go OBE. And we get answers if we wish,
or we can receive them in another sense.

**Even OBE ... Out Of Body Experiences ... Have Their Limitations ... And Do Not Give ... Of All The Answers !! ... Do To "Certain Restrictions" Placed !! ... Of Other Ways ... Restrictions Placed There Too !! ... Or As Orson Wells Used To Say ... As A Spokesperson For ... Ernest & Julio Gallo ... "We Will Sell No Wine ... Before It's Time" !! ... In This Case The Translation Would Read ... If You Are Not Ready For This ... Then This
Information ... Will Not Be Available To You !!
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Neither understand the Whole, the One. As the One in All, the All in One.

**Sounds Like Something Taken From ... The "Three Musketeers" !!

Well You did used the same words some pages ago.

**Well If You See This ... Please Provide Reference !! ... We Wish To See ... What It Was ... We Were Referring To ... At That Moment !!
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I do not look to the levels of STS or STO. I do look behind
those labels. About the intention of Beings.

**So Long As You ... Profess ... You Use These "Tags/Labels" ... You Are Adhering/Subject ... To The Meanings !! ... If The Base Is Corrupt ... Then Any Premise Worked Off Of That Base ... Is Also Corrupt !!

As there are beings in 4 density who are looking only to
their own selfish comfort.

**Well We Cannot Speak For All Beings !! ... However That Is ... Attempting To Judge From 3rd Density & The Ways There !!
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You known, You are very slow to act.

**We Act ... Accordingly ... How & When ... We Are To Act !!

My best man didn't need to pass over.

**We Do Not Have The Details ... On This !!

You could provide much faster support to help those who wants the Best for Earth.

**As Stated ... We Act Accordingly ... How & When ... We Are To Act !!

That will be not easy to deal with, when we make the transition, soon.

**Perhaps !!

And I really hope, the One decided to come forward.
As Quorum stated. Because this would heal a lot.
Especially for those, who do reject the possibility.

**Quorum Doesn't Know ... What In The ... Samuel Langhorne Clemens ... They Are Talking About !! ... Comes Only On The Thread ... To Troll & Misinform/Disinform !! ... Not Of One(s) ... Who Have ... All Their ... Ducks In Order ... Or In A Row !!

All the Best,

And To You !!

VVizz of Ur

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: SAM: User ID: 669052

Greetings ST in BG.

What about "UMMO" ?

**We Do Not Have Information On This !! ... Except Perhaps Contained In A Book ... Of Experiences ... Of Reports Of Contact ... By A "Stevens" ?? (Who Was The Researcher !!) .... Such Reference Materials However ... Are Currently Not Available ... For The Conduit To Access !! ... Sorry !!

Thank you.

You Are Very Welcome !!

SAM

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: void: User ID: 667543

Hello ST In BG

// sorry for my bad English to all //

I have to acknowledge you that my point of view is more or less the same as Quorum about "self learning"

**Quorum's "Point Of View" ... Is Hardly About ... Self Learning !! ... At Least ... Not In Their Fashions !!!

but i'm less categorical than him about you. (cause when i don't know, i don't know, and i don't know who you
are and what are your real goals)

and i can't just accept what anybody say without my own experience to validate the information, that is true for you, and for everybody, even a "glowing super-wisdom entity".

**Thankfully ... We Have "More Experiences" To Go On !! ... So We Can "Validate" ... Much Much Easier !!

I think, everybody should do the same : everytime stay skeptical and validate only what he experienced.

**Well If They Did That ... Without Knowledge Of ... All Their Experiences ... They Would Indeed ... Be Very Very VERY Slowwwwwwwww Learners !!

In my point of view, nothing tells me that i need your help, but, something "tells me" that i have to be wary.

**Well ... Yes ... Cautious !!

- First question here is : What tells you that we (humans) need your help and your knowledge, your teaching ?

**Look At That State/Situation ... On Terra/Earth !! ... If You Realized ... What We Have Done In Intervention ... To Help Hold Things Together !! ... To Help Maintain ... Life Support Conditions There !! ... Without ... You Would Have Been Gone ... Long Ago !! ... So Of Seeing Of ... The State Of Things There ... Others & Ourselves Feel ... You Need ... All The Help You Can Get !!

- Second question here is : why do you help us ? what is your interest to do that ?

**Because It Is ... Part Of Our Jobs/Duties !! ... And We Do Care !! ... Not Just Of Life/Energies There ... But How It Effects ... All Things Elsewhere !! ... The Beings On Terra/Earth ... They Do Not Understand ... That Of Things They Do There ... Not Only Touching Upon ... Of Things Of Terra/Earth ... But Of Their Neighboring Planets & Things Of Space ... & Reach Further Outward ... Even To Other Dimensions !! ... So It Is Not Just ... Of Protecting You ... Protecting Of Life Of That World ... But Preserving That Of Others ... Other Places !!

I have my own ethics values, and one of these tell me :
everybody have to doubt and don't believe anything from another without any very good reason and must validate itself the information by self experience (cause this is the "individuality" purpose to experience itself from its own point of view).

**There Are ... "Other Ways" To Validate ... Besides One's Terrestrial "Self Experiences" !!

You can tell me that follow your teaching is an experience,

**To Come To Class Aboard ... Is Always ... An Experience !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

yes, it's true, and nobody can tell "don't follow him because it's baaaddd", everybody do its own experience. But everybody must, in my point of view, now that follow your teaching is only an experience, and never "the good
way".

**We Do Not Have ... Where We Are ... The Fractuated Thinking ... In Good/Bad !! ... Things Are ... Simply ... As They Are !! ... We See ... From The Whole Of Things ... And Go From There !! ... As It Is Taught There ... There Are Absolutes !! ... We See No "Absolutes" ... But We Do See ... "Many Shades Of Grey" !! ... And Look Upon Things ... From A Greater ... Overall Perspective !!

lets tell me my own point of view about knowledge and self learning: You meet some teacher that deliver to you some knowledge, you have choice :

One way is : found that it is a big chance and profit the occasion to get some knowledge easily, but without any proof that he (the teacher) deliver to you the REAL knowledge you NEED (the teacher can have many mistake in its knowledge, and don't really know you and what you need to know).

- Question here is : Do you think you have sufficient knowledge of us to help us ?

** We Have Been ... For A Long Long Long Long .... +++ Time !!

What tells you that you have sufficient knowledge of us ?

**In A Word ... Experience !!!

Other way is : found that if the teacher have this knowledge without help, we can, like the teacher, have this knowledge too without help, with the assurance that the knowledge we get was validated with its own experience. That is a very different way, more difficult, but very more gratifying.

- first question here is : Do you know what you know because you have some teachers that tell you all this knowledge, or because you experience this knowledge yourself ?

**We Have Had & Learned ... From Master Instructors Ourselves !! ... & From 1st Hand Knowledge/Experience !!

- Second question here is : if you know what you know without any teachers, what tells you that, unlike you, we need a teacher ?

**Even If We Did Not Have Of Those ... Master Teachers/Instructors ... That Taught Us ... If You Saw From Our View ... From Our Perspective ... Of Things On Terra/Earth .. The Need For Instruction ... For Proper Instruction ... Of What & How To Do Things There ... Would Not Be In Question !!

It seem you ignore some important point and just deliver
"knowledge" that should be (to your point of view) just be accepted by other like the absolute truth,

**We Give What We Are Allowed !! ... The Questioner Asks Of Us ... We Attempt To Answer !! ... We Give Of What We Know ... What We Are Permitted To Talk On ... Speak On ... And Of How ... We Are To Converse Of The Subject !!

without doubting (this is my impression). And, in the same way, don't really let people to learn themselves.

**They Cannot Learn ... Without Knowing !! ... And You Do Not ... Know There !!

In this point of view, you just interfere with the "natural way of learning"

**No ... There Is No Interference !! ... As Such Was Granted ... In Accordance With ... The Planet's Wishes ... And Of Others ... Who Give Such Permissions !!

and add some noise in the mind of some people.

**No ... Not Noise !! ... But To Require Them To Think !! ... To Think What They Have Done There To The Planet ... Their Home ... Temporary As It May Be
... Of Which They Live !! ... And What They Have Made Of It !! ... And What Has To Happen ... To "Rebalance The Scales" There !! ... To Put Things Again ... In Harmony ... Working Together With Nature ... With Life & The Life Forces ... With All Of Life ... & With The Ways Of The Universe(s) !!

That is my impression.

**Then You Need To See/Perceive ... From A Greater Understanding/Outlook Of Things !! ... Take In ... A Greater Impression !! ... Not Such ... Limitations Held There !!

Last word : From my OWN EXPERIENCE, to help efficiently someone, you HAVE to very well KNOW him. Without that, you just masturbate your ego believing you do something "good".

**Such Is Simply ... Relating ... Of Your Own Experiences ... Not Necessary Applying ... To Any Others ... But Yourself !! ... For Your Teachings/Learning Experiences !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: Quorum: User ID: 667352

**In Response To: Canundrum 598066 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

You response is example of what programming I have been trying to expose,

**No Quorum !!

you are already well programmed and from this point on nothing can be done to help you,

**No Quorum !!

only you can help yourself you have a few years to figure it out good luck.

**Well ... As To How Long ... Any Have ... On Terra/Earth ... On The Surface ... This Is Far Less
... Then A "Few Years" !! ... Far Far Less !!

Only fear one should have is choices which lead to consequences they don't want to experience, could call that a form of wisdom.

**No ... We Call It Fear !!

If you have so much knowledge why has it not been utilized

**There Is An Old Expression On Terra/Earth ... "One Does Not Cast Pearls Before Swine" !! ... Wouldn't Do Much For The Pearls ... And The Swine ... The Pigs Really Wouldn't Care ... Or Understand !! ... So In Like Kind ... Knowing Of Your Desire ... Only To Come To The Thread ... To Disinform ... To Interfere ... To Spread Of ... Old & Tired ... Worn Out Propaganda ... Not Being Here To Listen ... To Learn ... Why Should Others ... Attempt To
Present To You ... Of ... Pearls Of Wisdom ... Only To Have ... Of Their Energies Wasted ... In Such Efforts !!

all i'm seeing is you defend a entity which you without even questioning it information believe whole heartedly.

**Well It Is Sure Better ... Then Believing The "Garbage" ... The Disinformation/Non-Information/Propaganda ... That You Are Spreading ...
Attempting To Spread !! ... And Besides ... Canundrum & Others ... Have Questioned/Quiried Long Ago ... Of Us ... & Received Truthful Replies & Answers To What They Asked !! ... In Which We Continue To Transmit ... In Truth ... What We Know ... What We Are Allowed !!

**You On The Other Hand ... Well ... We Have Not Seen Anything ... But Your Pushing/Parroting (No Insult To The Parrots Intended !!) ... Of Things ... You Have No Idea About !!

No where have you shown you are comparing instead you follow rather than lead yourself.

**Canundrum Has Been Around ... Long Enough ... To Understand ... To Know ... What Is Truth ... And What Is Just ... "Speel" ... Of "Garbage" Being Put Out ... Being Put Forth !! ... So Of Their Desire To Learn ... This
Comes From ... Knowing How To Discern ... And What To Look For !! ... Such As ... Yourself ... In Spreading Of False Informations & Lies ... About Our ET Selves & Conduit ... In An Attempt ... To Dissuade Readers & Posters Who Come Here !! ... And To Come To The Thread ... Mainly To "Troll" ... & Spread This/These ... Propaganda/Lies ... To Attempt To ... Win Over As Many Converts ... To The "Disinformation Garbage" You Are Spreading !!

Oh control has many forms and most are not always obvious,

you are being controlled whether you see it or not is your choice until you do you will remain controlled.

**Think Maybe You Should Examine ... Your Own Circumstances !! ... Of "Being Controlled" !! ... "Parroting" (Again No Insult To The Parrots Intended !!) ... Of Informations ... Without Understanding ... Without Knowing ... Whether They Be True Or Not !! ... Simply To Play The ... Dark/Light Side Again ... To Play The "Evil ET's" Thought ... Not Knowing
... Who Or What ... Any Of These ET's Are !! ... Just Rather Branding Them All ... As One Color ... And Using This ... Falseness ... These Lies ... As Your Base !! ... Yes ... As Far As ... "Being Controlled" ... Maybe You Need
To Look ... To Your Own Situation First !! ... Of Being ... "Led Around" !!
___________________________________________________________

Another thing id like to reveal why this entity uses the format it does, it is a means of hypnosis because the statements get imbedded easier into your minds if used in the format it is using.

**No Quorum !!

Many people believe this entity because in there own desires of what they want reality to be they see only what it is they want too and miss the truth of situation, in there minds they cant perceive the truth because they focus only on there own wants some call this "wishful thinking".

**No Quorum !!

This entity plays on your "wishful thinking" it makes you
believe that some force is coming to save you from the bad guys who run things, when the truth is that force coming is coming to place more control structures in place to enslave your souls further and they are the ones giving orders to the ground troops so to speak.

**No Quorum !!

You can do as you choose we are just making you aware of
consequences of ignorant choices and that it is wiser to question and learn before believing and following.

**You Have No Clue ... As To Make ... Anyone Aware !!! ... Try Your ... "Own Awareness First" ... We Think THIS ... Needs Worked On !! ... Rather Badly !!

Many even deny there obvious programming this in itself will be there down fall denial is mechanism to keep you ignorant of truth and will lead to total enslavement and more suffering if follow such a mindset to it
end.

**Oh Boy !!

You say we fear monger but we are revealing the truth of
situation "truth is not always accepted well", if you are afraid to learn of experiences which may not be desired then that is your response not ours in our perception it is all lessons we are just trying to help you avoid your
current future experiences and have a easier transition.

**You Are Just Here ... To Confuse ... To Attempt To ... Much Things Up !! ... To Spread Your Disinformation/Non-Information .... Revealing Truth ?? ... NOT !!!

But we can not do it for you as that takes away your empowerment of self which is purpose of learning to begin with, but we can say this to you with certainty if you are those who are taken in ships you will find out the hard way that you deceived yourself and what occurs to you you must take the responsibility for. Consider this they need food if wish to go to war.

**No Quorum !!

Quorum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST in BG are you THE WALL
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to put a Q in an another way

Are the densities (plasmic) as ..the walls... with its depths, hights and... regulated frequenties
?
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Sorry for my "a bit strong" comments below.

**Thankfully ... We Have "More Experiences" To Go On !! ... So We Can "Validate" ... Much Much Easier !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- No doubt about your experiences... i doubt about your motivations/purpose, like Quorum.

**Well If They Did That ... Without Knowledge Of ... All Their Experiences ... They Would Indeed ... Be Very Very VERY Slowwwwwwwww Learners !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Do we have some time imperative here ? Personnaly, i'm not pressed... i have ALL the time beyond me... don't you ? Explain me where is the emergency please.

**Look At That State/Situation ... On Terra/Earth !!
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- Ho yeah poor terra/earth... Remember me, who created human being ?

... If You Realized ... What We Have Done In Intervention ... To Help Hold Things Together !! ... To Help Maintain ... Life Support Conditions There !! ... Without ... You Would Have Been Gone ... Long Ago !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Ho, the great news... if no earth, no "me" in earth...and i have to say that many time, i think that the univers will be very better without me in this planet... if you want to make me cry and thanks you by this way, that will don't work, or you need to explain me why i shloud cry and thanks you...

... So Of Seeing Of ... The State Of Things There ... Others & Ourselves Feel ... You Need ... All The Help You Can Get !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Well, you tell me that i have choose to come to earth, to need your help ? Somthing strange...

**Because It Is ... Part Of Our Jobs/Duties !! ... And We Do Care !! ... Not Just Of Life/Energies There ... But How It Effects ... All Things Elsewhere !! ... The Beings On Terra/Earth ... They Do Not Understand ... That Of Things They Do There ... Not Only Touching Upon ... Of Things Of Terra/Earth ... But Of Their Neighboring Planets & Things Of Space ... & Reach Further Outward ... Even To Other Dimensions !! ... So It Is Not Just ... Of Protecting You ... Protecting Of Life Of That World ... But Preserving That Of Others ... Other Places !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Well, why just don't stop get falling "energies" ont this planet ? (i suppose you'll involve free will...). And so, why these energies falling here ?

**There Are ... "Other Ways" To Validate ... Besides One's Terrestrial "Self Experiences" !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Ok, give me some example of "other ways". try to explain to me (i'm not so stupid, i can understand many things)

**To Come To Class Aboard ... Is Always ... An Experience !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!
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- Don't doubt that, but i doubt i want make this experience. probably prefer to die, naturally... like all others humans befor me...

**We Do Not Have ... Where We Are ... The Fractuated Thinking ... In Good/Bad !! ... Things Are ... Simply ... As They Are !! ... We See ... From The Whole Of Things ... And Go From There !! ... As It Is Taught There ... There Are Absolutes !! ... We See No "Absolutes" ... But We Do See ... "Many Shades Of Grey" !! ... And Look Upon Things ... From A Greater ... Overall Perspective !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Why are you in the "4th density" and not... "6th" for exemple ?

** We Have Been ... For A Long Long Long Long .... +++ Time !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Ho yes, but how are you sure you know us ?

**In A Word ... Experience !!!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- erf erf...

**We Have Had & Learned ... From Master Instructors Ourselves !! ... & From 1st Hand Knowledge/Experience !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- I mean, as "race", doese any other "entities" teach you ? who ?

**Even If We Did Not Have Of Those ... Master Teachers/Instructors ... That Taught Us ... If You Saw From Our View ... From Our Perspective ... Of Things On Terra/Earth .. The Need For Instruction ... For Proper Instruction ... Of What & How To Do Things There ... Would Not Be In Question !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- And you think that the proper instruction can be done via this kind of question/response on a forum ? A this time, i haven't seen any real helping answer... just some "facts", barely usefull...

**We Give What We Are Allowed !! ...
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Who allow you ?

The Questioner Asks Of Us ... We Attempt To Answer !! ... We Give Of What We Know ...
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Something you don't know ?

**They Cannot Learn ... Without Knowing !! ... And You Do Not ... Know There !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- And yes, we don't know you... by what holy grace do we have to beleive you ?

**No ... There Is No Interference !! ... As Such Was Granted ... In Accordance With ... The Planet's Wishes ... And Of Others ... Who Give Such Permissions !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- "The planet's wish", so you refer to the "collective consciousness" of the humain being ? or what ?


**No ... Not Noise !! ... But To Require Them To Think !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Ok, ok...

... To Think What They Have Done There To The Planet ... Their Home ...
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- I think many humans are very aware of what happened on this planet... don't think you inform anybody of such thing about this subjet.

Temporary As It May Be
... Of Which They Live !! ... And What They Have Made Of It !! ... And What Has To Happen ... To "Rebalance The Scales" There !! ... To Put Things Again ... In Harmony ... Working Together With Nature ... With Life & The Life Forces ... With All Of Life ... & With The Ways Of The Universe(s) !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Ok, here you just try to preach a convinced one... what you say is very beatyfull, but i can say the same, and i don't learning this from you... I don't want to be too "agressive" with you, but the question is : can you realy help us ? and HOW ? Can you teach something usefull to us at this present time, that me, or any other can't ?

**Then You Need To See/Perceive ... From A Greater Understanding/Outlook Of Things !! ... Take In ... A Greater Impression !! ... Not Such ... Limitations Held There !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Maybe i need, and maybe not... maybe you just try to bring me to your "way" and i have the choice to say "no thanks". I see that you always says "you need help, you don't know". Okay, maybe we need help, and maybe we don't know, but if you realy had something usefull to teach, so TEACH, and we will see ousrelf if those things are usefull for us, or not.

**Such Is Simply ... Relating ... Of Your Own Experiences ... Not Necessary Applying ... To Any Others ... But Yourself !! ... For Your Teachings/Learning Experiences !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


- Maybe.. but i share my experience (with everybody here)... at this time, you just share some quick anwer from some quick questions... maybe the questionners should ask some better questions, but... what is your point of view ?

- Why do you cannot say what is the purpose of the physical plan ?
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if no earth, no "me" in earth...and i have to say that many time, i think that the univers will be very better without me in this planet...
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In fact i think sometime, that all will be better just without "me"... existence appear to me as useless and absurde thing... in 1,2, 3th, 4th, 5th or 6th density or anywhere... i ask to come ? what a mistake ! any comment about that ST in BG ?
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you say "The Captain Of The Titanic ...
Who Helped And Played A Role ... In Sinking The Vessel"

indeed !! so it surely better to not have one I understand lol

Multi-Spectral faith .. it is a good idea...


**No !! ... Only ... Extra Terrestrials !! ... (As 2 Words !!) ... Which Is ... More Terrestrials !!

mmm...I understand .. to be more someting..more living person/...more thinking person..more loving person.. more conscious person

are you extra waked up in a sense of moral elevation or physically wake up.. in multi "spectral way" ? or maybe both ?

I have another question in link with "nibiru" or other things like that ( I don't believe in nibiru but I'm perfectly sure that life exist in solar system on three planets (earth included) )

look for example at the neutron flux

here

[link to cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru]

you could see ig you take the monthly graph that something ..is going on

the neutron flux talk about solar activity but the sun is quite those times, but the neutron flux is also a measure of "pression"

what do you think about this elevation ? ...is it the sign of the travelling of system solar in a more dense zone in the galaxy or sign of change in course

...do you feel thoses changes ?

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...V

and of course FFFP (Farce Power For Peace !!) ;-)
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This thread is total nonsense to begin with, this entity fills your heads with part truths and distortions it trying to control you. Why would you fear the concept nibru anyway who says they have any power over you but that which you let them.

So many seek a daddy to lead them but dont take responsibility for themself so endanger there experience by listening to abusive daddys who may act nice at first but have a hidden agenda always.

Its time people begin to ask questions of everything and learn for yourself instead of look for mentors or guides to tell you what to do why dont you guide and mentor yourself you have the tools "a mind and a heart" to do it with time to start using it and learn for yourself.

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You seem to keep coming back! Further, what you are saying, we already know and have read elsewhere.

Like I said before, we are not without knowledge here. We are not looking for a leader/daddy either. There is absolutely no control here - AT ALL - to emphasize, NO CONTROL! We acknowledge answers to our questions, that's it. By the way, we don't fear Niburu..... But Siriusly, we know who does!

You Quorum, have provided only scare tactics and mongering. You are misled and focus only on the negative. Either you are a troll or you are blindly led by the ring in your nose.

Again - back up what you say or shuttup.

Canundrum


You response is example of what programming I have been trying to expose, you are already well programed and from this point on nothing can be done to help you, only you can help yourself you have a few years to figure it out good luck.

Only fear one should have is choices which lead to concequences they dont want to experience, could call that a form of wisdom.

If you have so much knowledge why has it not been untilized all im seeing is you defend a entity which you without even questioning it information believe whole heartly.

No were have you shown you are comparing instead you follow rather than lead yourself. Oh control has many forms and most are not always obvious, you are being controled whether you see it or not is your choice until you do you will remain controled.

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just an intervention peace :-)

for me all this is simply an exchange of knowlegde, no need of a virtual father or guru ;-)

I know the existence of chat bot but it's not the solution because chat bot cannot stand "textuals heuristic chaos"

also you quote a"donai christ" but you should perhaps consider that extraterrestrial forms of life could have her own god.. otherwise you could repeat the mistakes of the past with forced evangelizations

in other way so you could consider faith as an universal thing in the universe with different forms of expression.... in that way should not be afraid of contacts or reality of extra terrestrials forms of life

many people are afraid of contacts or even more of terrestrial aliens like people of other culture religion or countries.. are you ? if so ... ask you the question .. what's the purpose of life in earth ?

if mother nature god or else had taken so much pain to creat life in the solar system and elsewhere, do you believe it is all non sense ?

I believe that the differents forms of life in or neighbourhood should contact soon or later and that's a natural path of evolution

but humans are also animals in some ways because we have some instincts and species memories coded

so a re probably most of extraterrestrials too

a positive contact could only happen when the instinct parts in both camps are under control

it's a personal quest not collective one

so I think that everybody has choice free choice to do so, to search and accept the differences and the contact or choice to avoid them

so we are fundamentaly free,no need of guidance for that in my view

:-)
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In fact i think sometime, that all will be better just without "me"... existence appear to me as useless and absurde thing... in 1,2, 3th, 4th, 5th or 6th density or anywhere...
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=> need cafeine :/
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ST in BG are you THE WALL
nano-?


to put a Q in an another way

Are the densities (plasmic) as ..the walls... with its depths, hights and... regulated frequenties
?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441472


Try understand it like a grade in a school each density has it own lessons/experiences to offer. If want to get more complex lets just say each realm itself can work different to the rest example: physics itself is varied between different realms "there is of course similaritys" as there is a template that all universes kinda follow but its open in its creative use.

So saying this understanding another realm from your local perspective of things "Your density" would be hard since it is varied.

example of understanding it from a viewpoint which is relevant to all realms is to see a dimension as a duplication of gravity which is in fluxuation because of conscious interaction "realms in motion is unstable gravity waves".

But limiting the possible frequecys of light to that which is known in this realm would not fit as well in describing other realms as they have different systems in place (some realms have colors you are yet to discover etc).

But electromagnetic frequecys are involved in the seperation of the dimensions from each other; this is why EM disturbance can open windows to cross through.

In a more truth context densitys are levels of illusion for purpose of learning through experience, the objective is to sort through the distortions thus't learn what is relevant by objective observation.

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-do you guys smoke weed?
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This thread is total nonsense to begin with, this entity fills your heads with part truths and distortions it trying to control you. Why would you fear the concept nibru anyway who says they have any power over you but that which you let them.

So many seek a daddy to lead them but dont take responsibility for themself so endanger there experience by listening to abusive daddys who may act nice at first but have a hidden agenda always.

Its time people begin to ask questions of everything and learn for yourself instead of look for mentors or guides to tell you what to do why dont you guide and mentor yourself you have the tools "a mind and a heart" to do it with time to start using it and learn for yourself.

Quorum
Adonai Christ



You seem to keep coming back! Further, what you are saying, we already know and have read elsewhere.

Like I said before, we are not without knowledge here. We are not looking for a leader/daddy either. There is absolutely no control here - AT ALL - to emphasize, NO CONTROL! We acknowledge answers to our questions, that's it. By the way, we don't fear Niburu..... But Siriusly, we know who does!

You Quorum, have provided only scare tactics and mongering. You are misled and focus only on the negative. Either you are a troll or you are blindly led by the ring in your nose.

Again - back up what you say or shuttup.

Canundrum


You response is example of what programming I have been trying to expose, you are already well programed and from this point on nothing can be done to help you, only you can help yourself you have a few years to figure it out good luck.

Only fear one should have is choices which lead to concequences they dont want to experience, could call that a form of wisdom.

If you have so much knowledge why has it not been untilized all im seeing is you defend a entity which you without even questioning it information believe whole heartly.

No were have you shown you are comparing instead you follow rather than lead yourself. Oh control has many forms and most are not always obvious, you are being controled whether you see it or not is your choice until you do you will remain controled.

Quorum
Adonai Christ



just an intervention peace :-)

for me all this is simply an exchange of knowlegde, no need of a virtual father or guru ;-)

I know the existence of chat bot but it's not the solution because chat bot cannot stand "textuals heuristic chaos"

also you quote a"donai christ" but you should perhaps consider that extraterrestrial forms of life could have her own god.. otherwise you could repeat the mistakes of the past with forced evangelizations

The name represents a group logos...the name is not that important it is my way of honoring

in other way so you could consider faith as an universal thing in the universe with different forms of expression.... in that way should not be afraid of contacts or reality of extra terrestrials forms of life

many people are afraid of contacts or even more of terrestrial aliens like people of other culture religion or countries.. are you ? if so ... ask you the question .. what's the purpose of life in earth ?

Are you sure you want to invite them in? The purpose is obvious you already know the answer what is it you experience in life?

if mother nature god or else had taken so much pain to creat life in the solar system and elsewhere, do you believe it is all non sense ?

This planet has conscious known as GAIA yes that is a indenty it has used as does many planets offer the experience of beings a planet. Pain is a subjective term depends how you percieve the experience.

I believe that the differents forms of life in or neighbourhood should contact soon or later and that's a natural path of evolution

Well more like you are moved up to the level were that is part of the experience.


but humans are also animals in some ways because we have some instincts and species memories coded

Your current form is of a animal yes but that is not the true you.

so a re probably most of extraterrestrials too

a positive contact could only happen when the instinct parts in both camps are under control

Postive "STO" entitys do not interfere in lower densitys evolution experiences, nor tamper with there reality or affect there souls lessons.

it's a personal quest not collective one

so I think that everybody has choice free choice to do so, to search and accept the differences and the contact or choice to avoid them


so we are fundamentaly free,no need of guidance for that in my view

:-)
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You have free-choice once you are empowered until then you are a victim of circumstances, infuelences and ignorance.

Term Free-choice suggests free choice does it not are you not limited in your choices at present do you not live day by day not knowing what reality has next for you, this isnt true freedom and is why I have said to you before you are controled at present.

If you want freedom for real then learn how, why, when it happened. All you need to know is already around you as tools of learning and also within you there is many paths to enlightenment.


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Try understand it like a grade in a school each density has it own lessons/experiences to offer. If want to get more complex lets just say each realm itself can work different to the rest example: physics itself is varied between different realms "there is of course similaritys" as there is a template that all universes kinda follow but its open in its creative use.
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This is both for you Quorum and ST in BG (and everybody in fact) :

With your 1,2,3,4,5,6th density, transition, knowledge, learning etc...

Why the hell do we have to LEARN SOMETHING ?! Why can't we just... stay nothing, in peace, in nowhere... What is this great 'dictatorship' of LEARNING and PROGRESS ?! I don't want to learn or create anything, i want to GOING IN PEACE ! Cause this "GAME" begin to "PEACE" ME OFF ! ( i know how to do joke word too... ) : "try" -> "error" -> "get the bad result" -> "ho ho ho, very funny :( "... is that all we have to do in the univers ? A looonng serial of errors or create some "reality" to experience them ? In know many thing about many subject (science, philosophy, spirituality) and the only thing that i know at this time is that : all this knowledge is useless and don't help me to understand what i do here in this planet, exept maybe to say "Earth ? that hurt". Even ST in BG can't tell me...

What is the f$%#* problem with this univers ? If the problem is me (maybe i come from any 12th space bug anti-density), so please "debug" me or destroy me... no, better idea : back to the "past" and prevent me to exist. and the response will probably be "i'm sorry dave, but we can't do that" (my name is not dave, i refer to : "2001 space odyssey", humor...ok, nobody smile... )

ST in BG said : "the threat become with the need of distraction" that is the only thing that sound something to me... because i experience that EVERYTIME ! yeahh humanity need distraction, and everybody (me too) here come to this thread to get some distractions (no ? look well... )

Now i will get some other distraction... drawing, or learn music, or whatever since the end of this "tedious" life... I have the migraine.

( And here, i'm on a good day...i do some theatrical performance, but whene i'm realy depressed, that is exatly that and maybe more... )

French music: [link to www.youtube.com] (i know, you don't like french music)
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Try understand it like a grade in a school each density has it own lessons/experiences to offer. If want to get more complex lets just say each realm itself can work different to the rest example: physics itself is varied between different realms "there is of course similaritys" as there is a template that all universes kinda follow but its open in its creative use.


This is both for you Quorum and ST in BG (and everybody in fact) :

With your 1,2,3,4,5,6th density, transition, knowledge, learning etc...

Why the hell do we have to LEARN SOMETHING ?! Why can't we just... stay nothing, in peace, in nowhere... What is this great 'dictatorship' of LEARNING and PROGRESS ?! I don't want to learn or create anything, i want to GOING IN PEACE ! Cause this "GAME" begin to "PEACE" ME OFF ! ( i know how to do joke word too... ) : "try" -> "error" -> "get the bad result" -> "ho ho ho, very funny :( "... is that all we have to do in the univers ? A looonng serial of errors or create some "reality" to experience them ? In know many thing about many subject (science, philosophy, spirituality) and the only thing that i know at this time is that : all this knowledge is useless and don't help me to understand what i do here in this planet, exept maybe to say "Earth ? that hurt". Even ST in BG can't tell me...

You created the game, the whole point of it is to learn cause that is why we all created it for the fun of seeing how much we can access as we learn and develop.

What is the f$%#* problem with this univers ? If the problem is me (maybe i come from any 12th space bug anti-density), so please "debug" me or destroy me... no, better idea : back to the "past" and prevent me to exist. and the response will probably be "i'm sorry dave, but we can't do that" (my name is not dave, i refer to : "2001 space odyssey", humor...ok, nobody smile... )

Dont let your experiences in life unstablize your emotions that doesnt help, take a step back and observe how you develops from moment your born did you not learn how to walk and speak it is not different to learning maths for example.

ST in BG said : "the threat become with the need of distraction" that is the only thing that sound something to me... because i experience that EVERYTIME ! yeahh humanity need distraction, and everybody (me too) here come to this thread to get some distractions (no ? look well... )

Now i will get some other distraction... drawing, or learn music, or whatever since the end of this "tedious" life... I have the migraine.

Distractions are everywere but they are also wise to be aware of but not let it distract you there is a difference to knowing about something and letting it distract you.


( And here, i'm on a good day...i do some theatrical performance, but whene i'm realy depressed, that is exatly that and maybe more... )

French music: [link to www.youtube.com] (i know, you don't like french music)
 Quoting: void 667543


Well when we created this universe we didnt understand what experiencing duality would be like so all the suffering is now something we must learn to overcome it. A reality of STO is what you sound like you seek but in the reality you are within now which is STS you wont have the peace you desire and will suffer until learn how to free yourself that is the challeges you set for yourself at the begining/end of the universe.

Part of the game is to discern so you can navigate better hence the idea of duality and the conflict of darkness and light all of which play a roll in this cosmic chess game we all play. Question you must ask yourself is do you want to be the player or the pieces on the board being played.
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Question you must ask yourself is do you want to be the player or the pieces on the board being played.
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Neither one nor the other... The binary choices make me angry...
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Try understand it like a grade in a school each density has it own lessons/experiences to offer. If want to get more complex lets just say each realm itself can work different to the rest example: physics itself is varied between different realms "there is of course similaritys" as there is a template that all universes kinda follow but its open in its creative use.


This is both for you Quorum and ST in BG (and everybody in fact) :

With your 1,2,3,4,5,6th density, transition, knowledge, learning etc...

Why the hell do we have to LEARN SOMETHING ?! Why can't we just... stay nothing, in peace, in nowhere... What is this great 'dictatorship' of LEARNING and PROGRESS ?! I don't want to learn or create anything, i want to GOING IN PEACE ! Cause this "GAME" begin to "PEACE" ME OFF ! ( i know how to do joke word too... ) : "try" -> "error" -> "get the bad result" -> "ho ho ho, very funny :( "... is that all we have to do in the univers ? A looonng serial of errors or create some "reality" to experience them ? In know many thing about many subject (science, philosophy, spirituality) and the only thing that i know at this time is that : all this knowledge is useless and don't help me to understand what i do here in this planet, exept maybe to say "Earth ? that hurt". Even ST in BG can't tell me...

What is the f$%#* problem with this univers ? If the problem is me (maybe i come from any 12th space bug anti-density), so please "debug" me or destroy me... no, better idea : back to the "past" and prevent me to exist. and the response will probably be "i'm sorry dave, but we can't do that" (my name is not dave, i refer to : "2001 space odyssey", humor...ok, nobody smile... )

ST in BG said : "the threat become with the need of distraction" that is the only thing that sound something to me... because i experience that EVERYTIME ! yeahh humanity need distraction, and everybody (me too) here come to this thread to get some distractions (no ? look well... )

Now i will get some other distraction... drawing, or learn music, or whatever since the end of this "tedious" life... I have the migraine.

( And here, i'm on a good day...i do some theatrical performance, but whene i'm realy depressed, that is exatly that and maybe more... )

French music: [link to www.youtube.com] (i know, you don't like french music)
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Haven't you heard anything ST has said?? To live is to learn. We/YOU chose to be here NOW at this time in 3d to learn lessons, and perhaps teach lessons to others. YOU CHOSE this life. St or the ET's didn't "put" you here. All life is a choice... the way you lead your life is a choice....

The problem is not the universe, it is in your understanding. St has no control over your life or your "death". It is your choice to experience what is happening here in the world. You found this forum for a reason.... you are angry for a reason....you want answers..... Would you rather not know we are being manipulated by "others"? You need to ask yourself what do you feel is true?

If you knew what your lessons were that you needed to learn in this life, what would that do for the rest of your living experience? Would you hurry thru your lessons like in school getting barely passing grades just to graduate?

Or would you take elective classes to broaden your knowledge, thirsting for more. Most "kids" in school just barely pass to graduate, and can't wait to get out of school, or drop out! what do they remember when they get out? Mostly the basics of reading, writing, math, some science.... mostly getting low paying jobs, but hey, at least they are out of school right? NO!

Lessons continue, always, ever more progressive, ever more exciting and fun.

Quorum is trying to back up his words by baffling with B.S. Not gonna work Quorum. STS and STO is a selfish misnomer started by Nancy Lieder in ZetaTalk. Sounds like you get your info from there or you wouldn't be convinced to keep using these references.... You should see Candace on Abundant Hope, right up your alley.

No brainwashing here Quorum, but we can see you are brainwashed.

Of course a few dust bunnies in the brain might tickle... har har.

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Wow this must be the biggest thread I've ever seen.
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what's so special about it> Come on someone claiming to be an ET?
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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 441472

Are the densities (plasmic) as ..the walls... with its depths, heights and... regulated frequencies ?

**They Are What They Are !! ... As To What They Are ... We Cannot Say !! ... Sorry !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: anakin_nEo: User ID: 667647

you say "The Captain Of The Titanic ...

**Yes ... Edward John (E.J.) Smith ...

Who Helped And Played A Role ... In Sinking The Vessel"

**He Played His Role In This !!

indeed !! so it surely better to not have one I understand lol

**To Not Have One What ?? ... That You Understand ??

Multi-Spectral faith .. it is a good idea...

**No False Belief Systems ... Whatsoever ... Is A Termed ... "Good Idea" !!

**No !! ... Only ... Extra Terrestrials !! ... (As 2 Words !!) ... Which Is ... More Terrestrials !!

mmm...I understand .. to be more something..more living
person/...more thinking person..more loving person.. more conscious person

**To Understand ... To Learn ... To Evolve !!

are you extra waked up in a sense of moral elevation or
physically wake up.. in multi "spectral way" ? or maybe both ?

**We Are Of ... Greater Knowledge ... And Of Experience !! ... So We May Say ... We Are Wiser ... Then In The Ways There !!

I have another question in link with "Nibiru" or other things like that ( I don't believe in Nibiru but I'm perfectly sure that life exist in solar system on three planets (Earth included)

**Life Exists ... In Various Stages ... In Various Forms ... On All Worlds !! ... And The Very Worlds Themselves ... Are Alive ... And Of Consciousness !!

look for example at the neutron flux

you could see ig you take the monthly graph that something ..is going on

the neutron flux talk about solar activity but the sun is quite those times, but the neutron flux is also a measure of "pressure"

what do you think about this elevation ? ...is it the sign of the traveling of system solar in a more dense zone in the galaxy or sign of change in course

**It Is One Thing Perhaps ... That Is Sensitive ... In A Way ... Though Not Denoting The Source ... Of The Approach/Presence ... Of The Planet/Planetary Spaceship/Space Vessel ... Of Which Is Called ... Nibiru !!

...do you feel those changes ?

**Yes ... We Do !! ... The Conduit Does !! ... As This Is ... One Of His Homes !! ... Of Connections ... Of Energies !!

1. LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...V

**We Will Accept The Fictional Vulcan Farewell !! ... To Which We Reply ... "May Your Journey ... Be Free Of Incident" !!
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P.S. ... Please Note ... As Indicated (1.) ... That This Was Taken From ... The Bottom Of The Original Posting (Not Us !!) ... Who Started The Thread
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HELLO EARTHLINGS,

I am a extra terrestrial and I have been reading your webforums and magazines and watched your t.v channels and monitored your phone calls

I have decided to be the first alien to let himself be asked questions and answer and that all on GLP.

I await your questions

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...V

**It Is Believed That The "Original Poster" Begin The Thread ... Either To Gage Of Emotional Reactions/Response ... Or As A Joke !! ... To Post & Run
!! ... Posters Replied With Their Comments ... Pages #1 - 3 ... The "Original Poster" Not Returning !!

**We Came On The Thread ... ST In BG: User ID: 5013 6/18/2005 2:39 PM ... On Page #4 !! ... And Posted Our Quiry !!

Quoting: ST In BG ...

"Greetings: "Alien" Speaking From One Extraterrestrial Being (Of Many Embodiments/Lifetimes) ... To Another Extraterrestrial Being ... Of Which Extraterrestrial Affiliations Are You ?? ... Which Beings ... Group(s) Are You Speaking/Representing ??

**As We Are Real & Authentic Extraterrestrial Beings ... Others Began To Ask Of Us Questions ... To Which We Have Attempted To Respond !! ... We Have Continued As Such ... From That Point ... From That Moment Forward !!
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and of course FFFP (Farce Power For Peace !!) ;-)

**Yes Indeed !! .... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Opps !! ... Make That ... FPFP (Farce Power For Peace !!) ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Farewell For Now !!

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"You have free-choice once you are empowered until then you are a victim of circumstances, infuelences and ignorance. "

I'm empowered... for a very long time now , so much that I asked me the question from my own origins for years ! I'm human but have a "special part" in me that I call "half alien".;precognition, intelligence of situations and people, specials capabilities.. etc. the indigo description is applicable to me at large extend., but I'm not child anymore,so I consider maybe to be here for a special reason and search "mines" ;-)


"If you want freedom for real then learn how, why, when it happened. All you need to know is already around you as tools of learning and also within you there is many paths to enlightenment."

that's exactly what I'm doing for years now...I'm a free electron in many disciplines.. sculpture, science,economics, electronics,informatics, physics, art..music, theatre,astronomy, litterature, philosophy, psychology, biology, history ... in fact all interest me and I have try many things

so I learn and I do not never stop to learn

empowered so I said.. that's a charge you know.. a real charge sometimes...

freedom is not so simple to assume


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for the neutron flux ST .. I have got answer


[link to de.rian.ru]

it said that nasa doesn't detect solar protuberance but well russians with the Coronas-Photon TESIS

look for this example 4/17
[link to www.youtube.com]

the last one was 600.000 km long ! andcould leech planet mars !

are we in the scenario of the movie the knowing with nicolas cage ?

hope not

but I prefer the scenario of ce3k or contact ! of carl sagan
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Greetings: anakin_nEo: User ID: 667647

**In Response To: Quorum 667352 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

just an intervention peace :-)

**Yes Of Course !!

for me all this is simply an exchange of knowledge, no need of a virtual father or guru ;-)

**Well That Is True !! ... Guru Or Gnu ... We Would Look Strange ... Either Way !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I know the existence of chat bot but it's not the solution
because chat bot cannot stand "textuals heuristic chaos"

**Hmmm !!

also you quote a"donai christ" but you should perhaps consider that Extraterrestrial forms of life could have her own god..

**We Do Not Have ... This "False Premise/Understanding" !! ... So You Are ... Partially Correct !!

otherwise you could repeat the mistakes of the past with forced evangelizations

**Which Has Led To The Slaughter ... The Killing ... Of Many Beings There ... On Terra/Earth !!

in other way so you could consider faith as an universal thing in the universe with different forms of expression.... in that way should not be afraid of contacts or reality of extraterrestrial forms of life

**Other Beings ... Have No Need ... For "False Crutches" ... False "Belief Systems" ... Unlike Those There ... We Know !! ... OH By The Way ... "Faith"
Is Waving !!! ... We're Waving Back !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

**Neither Should One Be Afraid Of Contact !! ... Unless You Find Yourself ... All "Stuck Up" In Gooey Sticky Paper ... That Someone(s) Forgot To Pick Up ... After Their Craft Projects !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... (Though That Wouldn't Be Fear As Such !! ... But It Would Be "Contact" !! ... And Ouch Ouch Ouch !!! ... To Pull This Off ... Remove This ... From Beings That Have Hair, Fur, Feathers !!!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!)

many people are afraid of contacts or even more of Terrestrial aliens like people of other culture religion or countries.. are you ?

**Well For Us ... It Is Not A Matter Of Skin Color ... Throughout Terra/Earth ... But Simply Of ... Not Being Awakened ... To Their "Inner Selves" ... Their True YOU ... Energy Selves ... Their "Composite Energy
Matrix" ... Which Is Of/Connects To ... Of Their Many Many Many +++ Concurrent Lives & Lifetimes ... All Of The Moment ... All Of The Now !!

**So Of This ... Of Those That Are Not Connected To ... Their True Selves !! ... Those That Are Not "Connected" ... Not Understanding Of The Life & Lifeforces Of The Planet ... That Which Is Their Temporarily Home .... Those That Are Helping To Destroy This .... Not Preserve It !! ... Of Those Who Have Forgotten ... Who Are "Out Of Touch" ... With Their Spacial Sisters & Brothers ... Who Reside In The Universes/Dimensions, Elsewhere ... With You .... THESE Ones ... Are The "True Aliens" !! ... For Wherever They
May Be On The Planet ... They Are "Foreigners" !! ...

**This Is Unlike Your "Neighbors" ... Extraterrestrial Beings (Those Beings Who Are Of "Native Terrans" And Other Non "Human" Forms ... Who Are Living Beneath The Surface ... & Who May Have Had ... Ancestors ... Who Were Not Of/From ... Terra/Earth !!)

if so ... ask you the question .. what's the purpose of life in Earth ?

**There Would Be Many Reasons/Purposes Of Life ... On Terra/Earth ... The Most Basic Is ... To Experience ... To Explore ... To Learn !!

if mother nature god

**No !!

or else had taken so much pain to create life in the solar system and elsewhere, do you believe it is all non sense ?

**Beings Who Of Their Knowledge/Wisdom ... Were Given These Duties/Jobs !! ... Of The Energy Shared Of The Conduit ... Of Other Lives & Lifetimes ...
He/We ... Was/Is ... Of The Ancient Ones ... Who Helped To Create Life ... On Terra/Earth !! ... And Elsewhere !! ... (Of Course ... We May Have Had ... "Differing Looks" (Of Those In Terrestrial Forms !!) ... "Different Outfits" (Our Work Clothes !!) ... Then !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I believe that the different forms of life in or neighborhood should contact soon or later and that's a natural path of evolution

**We & Many ... Already Have !!

but humans are also animals in some ways because we have some instincts and species memories coded

**Such Was Necessary Of Those Composite Forms ... In Order ... To Survive ... On Terra/Earth !!

so we are probably most of Extraterrestrials too

**Of The Energies That Animate The Forms ... Yes !! ... Though You Are Not Aware !! ... Well Most Of You Are Not !! ... Of Your Connections ... To The Many Many Many +++ Lives & Lifetimes ... Of Other Worlds ... Other
Places ... All Lived In The Moment !! ... And Of The Bodies ... Of The Originals (Tweaked Here & There ... When Necessary !!) ... Yes These Too ... Are Of Extraterrestrial Design & Construct !! ... Composite Bodies ... Of Which Many Specialists ... Of Their Various Knowledge & Specializations ... Added & Contributed !! ... So That Is Why ... If You Look At Your Forms ... (Just From The Outside) ... You Will Notice ... That Certain Parts & Sections To Your Body ... Have A Different Look ... A Different Texture !! ... And Your Internal Organs As Well !!

**It Would Be As An Example There ... To Build An Automobile (Or A Computer !!) ... From The Ground Up ... Taking A Part From Here ... A Part From There ... Different Companies ... Different Manufacturers ... Different Languages & County Origins ... & "Piece Meal" ... To Construct Of Your Own Handcrafted & Designed ... Mechanization !! ... Making Things All Work
Together ... In Harmony With One Anther !! ... In This Way You KNOW ... By "Hands On Experience" ... Where Things Came From ... And How Everything Went Together !! ... To Make A Classic ... One Of A Kind !! ... (Yet In Reference To Composite Body Forms ... Giving These The Ability ... To
Reproduce Themselves !!)

a positive contact could only happen when the instinct parts in both camps are under control

**Well Not A "Positive Contact" ... Nor "Negative Contact" ... But "Contact" !! ... And Dependant On Need ... Of What Needs To Be Done ... "Contact" Can Happen ... With Someone(s) ... Who Are Not ... Under Control !! ... (Of Course Knowing Ahead Of Time ... We Take The Necessary Precautions ... For Our & Their Safety !! ... (We Do This ... As Matter Of Procedure !!)

it's a personal quest not collective one

**Of The "Personal Individual Contacts" ... This Can Branch Out ... Can Become ... Of "Open Contact" ... When The Moment Is To Be !! ... Though Understandably ... We Are Not Going To ... Present Ourselves Openly ... At
Least Not Without ... Safety & Security In Mind ... Of Those Who ... Cannot Get Along ... With Their Own Surface ... Planetary Neighbors !! ... So A "Landing On The Whitehouse Lawn" ... Is Not ... What We ... Would Consider ... Of "Open Contact" !!

so I think that everybody has choice free choice to do so, to search and accept the differences and the contact or choice to avoid them

**Yes ... Most Have The Ability ... To Make Of Such Decisions !! ... Though There Are Those ... Of Which ... Such Decisions ... Have Been Made For Them !! ... As To Their Particular Teachings & Learnings !!

so we are fundamentally free,no need of guidance for that in my view

**Well ... You Have ... Guidelines ... Which Were Established !! ... Regretfully ... There Are Those There ... Who Have ... Usurped ... Who Have "Disregarded" & Overstepped These "Guidelines" ... Of This Then ... We Are Empowered ... To Make The Necessary Corrections ... To Rebalance ... To Cleanse ... To Change ... What Needs To Be ... For The Well Being ... The Safety & Security ... Of Those There Of The Surface ... As Well As ...
That Of ... Your Neighbors Who Live Below Ground ... Your Planet/World ... And Of Peoples/Beings, Planets, Ect. ...Which Exist ... Of Other Systems, Galaxies, Universes, Dimensions !! ... For You See ... One Thing Can Have Effects ... That Are Felt/Experienced ... Everywhere !! ...

*So For Your Understanding ... Of An Example ... Think Of Those Of Us ... As Klattu & Gort (Many Gorts) ... 1955 Movie: The Day The Earth Stood Still .... Who (In That Idea) ... Make Sure That ... The Peace & Security
Are Maintained !!

:-)

Farewell For Now !!

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Wow this must be the biggest thread I've ever seen.

x___X

what's so special about it> Come on someone claiming to be an ET?

**No ... Not "Claiming" ... We KNOW !! ... As You Are ... In "Contact" !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Haven't you heard anything ST has said?? To live is to learn.
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That should be the reason why i have so many difficulty to live... i have a relational problem with "the life". i do want to... but "the life" do not want... "the life" do want to... but i do not want... the life is a big "game of mistake", "the life" say "try this mistake, or this mistake, or this other mistake !" and i don't like to do mistake : i guess the conscequences in advance... so, i just have to do... nothing, and stay here. And, the joke is, that it is another mistake ! but i don't know the consequences here...

We/YOU chose to be here NOW at this time in 3d to learn lessons, and perhaps teach lessons to others.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


I allways found that i was here by mistake, some strange bug... everybody seem to be here "ho yeah, i'm a human being, too cool, i will learn to the school and have a good job !"... not me. I see these people and think "these people are so strange...why they do that ? Why i have to do the same ?"

YOU CHOSE this life.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


bad choice, but is there any "good" choice anyway ? i doubt that...

St or the ET's didn't "put" you here. All life is a choice... the way you lead your life is a choice....
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I know this refrain... i know ALL theses theories... it is hard now to teach anything to me. I know aproximatly all points of view (figurative, i'm not god) and its opposite, i just can't (don't want ?) make any choice to validate any "view" insteed "another". The "choice" that is my real probleme i think : i don't want to choose... because i see the choice as a "trap", another way to a new "mistake" with anothers good AND bad conscequences : the life "training" me to see things like that... i accept the "good", not the "bad"... so i reject both the "good" with the "bad"... in fact, i reject the life, and the life reject me, in some manner... it is not a "love story"

The problem is not the universe, it is in your understanding.
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well, it why i say : "maybe the problem it is me"... and i'm afraid the problem is not near to be solved, as you can see...

St has no control over your life or your "death". It is your choice to experience what is happening here in the world. You found this forum for a reason....
you are angry for a reason....you want answers.....
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


I'm not sure i want any answere in fact... exept the answere of "why i'm here ?", and, i don't think i want to get this answere here, in this forum.

Would you rather not know we are being manipulated by "others"?
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Ho no, i prefere to be my own architect, but i must face to the fact that i'm a bad architect : that is the problem.

You need to ask yourself what do you feel is true?
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If i ask myself, i found all and its opposite... "feel" don't work with me. "what do you feel ?" - "ho, i feel white, black, yellow, green, blue, red, and... hem, pink, cyan, grey, purple, orange... i have to choose one ? hemm... what i do with the other ones ?", again, the choice is a problem for me.

If you knew what your lessons were that you needed to learn in this life, what would that do for the rest of your living experience? Would you hurry thru your lessons like in school getting barely passing grades just to graduate?
Or would you take elective classes to broaden your knowledge, thirsting for more.
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School and me is another storry... if my philosophy is oriented to "self-learning" there is some reasons...relative to that storry.

Most "kids" in school just barely pass to graduate, and can't wait to get out of school, or drop out! what do they remember when they get out? Mostly the basics of reading, writing, math, some science.... mostly getting low paying jobs, but hey, at least they are out of school right? NO!
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


well, anyway exit the shcool was a big liberation for me...shool is a dictatorship, life is a dictatorship...well, will the univers be a dictatorship ? that seem to be : "learn or 'die' !"

Lessons continue, always, ever more progressive, ever more exciting and fun.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


My best fun in life is... whene i sleep... no conflicts, no problems, not to have to resist some "forces" or trying to stay "upright"...

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That should be the reason why i have so many difficulty to live... i have a relational problem with "the life". i do want to... but "the life" do not want... "the life" do want to... but i do not want... the life is a big "game of mistake", "the life" say "try this mistake, or this mistake, or this other mistake !" and i don't like to do mistake : i guess the conscequences in advance... so, i just have to do... nothing, and stay here. And, the joke is, that it is another mistake ! but i don't know the consequences here...
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I know this refrain... i know ALL theses theories... it is hard now to teach anything to me. I know aproximatly all points of view (figurative, i'm not god) and its opposite, i just can't (don't want ?) make any choice to validate any "view" insteed "another". The "choice" that is my real probleme i think : i don't want to choose... because i see the choice as a "trap", another way to a new "mistake" with anothers good AND bad conscequences : the life "training" me to see things like that... i accept the "good", not the "bad"... so i reject both the "good" with the "bad"... in fact, i reject the life, and the life reject me, in some manner... it is not a "love story"

 Quoting: void 667543


Dearest Void - don't you see? It's not about you per se. It's about learning and teaching. Think beyond yourself. What have you done to help someone? Did you help the elderly neighbor with their lunch or just keep them company? Have you helped out in a soup kitchen? Have you volunteered at a children's cancer unit? You have no idea on what kind of an impact you have on someone, even a total stranger.

Have you seen that old old movie, "It's a wonderful life" with Jimmy Stewart? That whole movie is about the impact that one man had on soooo many people, even in childhood.

The way you are thinking is called self realization. You ARE learning. You are NOT a mistake. Don't give up, never give up.

There is so much more than focusing on your choices and calling them mistakes. Nothing is really a mistake if you learn from it.

There is an old saying, "if you don't learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them".

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about life. I'm sad you dont' see it as an opportunity, but rather a mistake.

I can ask you to think positive, but it is truly up to you to choose to be positive and look for the good, or the opposite. The choice is always yours.

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Greetings: void: User ID: 667543

Sorry for my "a bit strong" comments below.

**We Reserve The Right ... To Not Answer Respondents ... When They Desire Not To Show ... Of Proper Respect !! ... If You Wish To Resubmit ... Your Questions ... With Respect Given ... Not Of Accusation ... Then We May
Choose To Reply !! ... Suffice To Say ... We Are Not ... "ET Punching Bags" Or "ET Sound Boards" ... That Need To Take ... Every Bit Of Abuse ... That Is Put To Us !!
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Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 630143

**In Response To: void 667543 ... & Quorum ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Haven't you heard anything ST has said??

**Supposedly Not !!

To live is to learn. We/YOU chose to be here NOW at this time in 3d to learn lessons, and perhaps teach lessons to others. YOU CHOSE this life.

**Indeed !! ... THEY CHOSE ... That Life !! ... (Unless They Were "Assigned" ??)

ST or the ET's didn't "put" you here.

**Not To Our Recollection Anyway !!!

All life is a choice... the way you lead your life is a choice....

**Indeed !! ... A Series Of Choices !!

The problem is not the universe, it is in your understanding.

**Emm Hmmm !! (Yes !!)

ST has no control over your life or your "death".

**Well Not "Directly" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Though Of
"Influences/Changes" To Come ... Of The Transition ... Of Evolving ... One Might Say ... "Non Directly" !!

It is your choice to experience what is happening here in the world. You found this forum for a reason.... you are angry for a reason....you want answers..... Would you
rather not know we are being manipulated by "others"? You need to ask yourself what do you feel is true?

**Indeed !!

If you knew what your lessons were that you needed to learn in this life, what would that do for the rest of your living experience? Would you hurry thru your lessons like in school getting barely passing grades just to graduate?

Or would you take elective classes to broaden your knowledge, thirsting for more.

**Study ... Way Beyond The "Programmed Terrestrial Classroom" ... Is Always Wise !!

Most "kids" in school just barely pass to graduate, and
can't wait to get out of school, or drop out!

**Well From What They "Teach" There ... For Those That See ... "Beyond The Programming" ... Who Can Blame Them !!

what do they remember when they get out? Mostly the basics of reading, writing, math, some science.... mostly getting low paying jobs, but hey, at least they are out of school
right? NO!

**To Escape The "Programming" Yes !! ... Unfortunately ... In A "Programmed Society" There ... Such "Teachings" (What They Call Them Anyway !!) ... Are What Is Recognized ... As Being Accurate ... & Truthful !! ... Which Is Not The Case !! ... As All Of Their "Disciplines" ... Have Their "Inaccuracies" !! ... Their Whole System & Way Of Learning ... Needs A Complete Overhaul !!

Lessons continue, always, ever more progressive, ever more
exciting and fun.

**Oh Indeed !! ... Of Lessons Beyond The ... "Artificial & Programming" There !! ... Lessons/Teaching ... That Are ... More Progressive ... Indeed More Exciting & Fun !!

Quorum is trying to back up his words by baffling with B.S.

**Yep !!!

Not gonna work Quorum.

**Indeed Not !!

**As To... STO & STS (Service To Others, Service To Self) ... This Needs More Of An "Expansive Explanation" ... So Of This .. We Will Do A ... "Follow Up Posting" !!

No brainwashing here Quorum,

**No ... None There !!

but we can see you are brainwashed.

**Well ... Evidences Would Suggest ... From Their Postings ... That "Something" Has Occurred There !!

Of course a few dust bunnies in the brain might tickle... har har.

**Wellll ... They Just Might !! ... Maybe Our "ET Medical Staff" ... Could Assist ?? ... Hi Ho ... Hi Ho ... A Vaccuming We Go !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG





GLP