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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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what happens to to the markets if russia invade would the markets collpase like no one has seen before would it be finiancial armageddon
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it depends on other countries reaction, if military or not and if this spreads to other neighbour countries too, bu allways a bad reaction. Markets are anticipating a bad conclusion for this... DAX falls 1,59% today!
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William Hague sasy #Russia has not made any concessions over #Ukraine



norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague says #russia has made no move to de-escalate situation in #ukraine

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No shit Billy boy! What you gonna do about it, you bald silly-voiced tit?
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falling more now...
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About 8,000 troops to take part in Russian artillery exercise - command - Interfax


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"You can say whatever you wish about Putin's ego. However he is the ONLY ONE out of hundreds of world leaders discussing the human cost and the protocols of international law which is another word for decency and respect for the rights of peoples to be who they are with their own unique contribution to the whole."

It would be good if Putin was doing that all the time. I know there are better politicians than him in Russia and I named a few. There are other names not heard too loudly. What we see from Putin now is lack of character and position. In first place he should not allow to happen what happened in Ukraine, given the fact Yanukovich was HIS MAN there. If Putin was advocate of human rights in the world he would have improved the human rights in Russia first. I don't say he didn't contribute to Russia. In fact I said many other things, both positive and negative. He deserves honor but without change Russia will remain what it was in Soviet time, a dictatorial state. Gorbachev speaks in that tone either. Parallel with America's 200+ years democracy is absurd, except for the duration of the terms. (as someone else said about it, Russia is not America in any respect).
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You said a lot here.
There are those who perhaps rightly say Putin acted too little and too late while the m.e. was being taken out one by one. In this I am in complete agreement with you. Putin sat on the fence while the region cried out for assistance, Syria in particular and long before that in the last 14-19 years we might say around 1994.
Also instead of challenge these illegal occupations Putin kept his view on developing the BRIC economy going around challenges instead of confronting them.
What the man does internally in his own country is a right of any sovereign...
...yet ALL THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE BEING PLUNDERED and dissolved and used as an excuse to bash the door in...this has nothing whatsoever to do with any "concern" or "pure motive" which is entirely cynical in nature. It is INTERFERENCE.
Gorbechov's gestures toward the end there were amazingly generous yet those gestures were slapped aside by the u.s. which wanted something else entirely...THE ENTIRE PIE. Not cooperation.

Alright, Yanokovych was a useful idiot. This pales in comparison to what is given in exchange. Keeping in mind certain someones want the ENTIRE PIE. Meaning how quickly the Ukrainians are experiencing being held up in a criminal heist which they are indeed.

I ask of you two things: Can russia handle their internal business as sovereigns..however imperfect, the fundamental life elements appear to be respected and mistakes such as Chernobyl a learned lesson. The 'gay' thing, nobody's business but russias whether or not any other country agrees with it.

I ask of you what would any other russian leader you have in mind (?) what would be salvaged by their actions, what is it they would do differently than Putin to save the region.

You could say my achilles heal or weakness is excess idealism and not enough overall understanding which is true.
There is a step above naive idealism I hope to aim for, where you could accept imperfections in favor of overall achievement of your aim.

Thanks for your input. I honestly appreciate it yet would like us to stay in the sharper here and now and be up front without hiding important motive.
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Bravo. And please all of you, never let go of your naive idealism. It is an integral part of your soul, and without it we lose, big time.

Take care
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LOL, I guess I really meant Workable idealism that can be implemented without losing it's inherent richness or impulse toward decency.
When you've time and the inclination Kent, been saving this for awhile to demonstrate the human cost of trickery put together by young Syrian idealists..you could say this is old news but most certainly is not, only protracted suffering (43 mins):
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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Pity that a big part of Russians brainwashed by putler's propaganda believe it. And even more pity that a lot of members here replicate these lies, some of members do it deliberately, but others - unconsciously.
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Russians are not brainwashed, they simply don't like it when people shout offensive slogans towards Russia and call for ethnic cleansing as well as people who cover their activity. It is a well established fact that there are a lot of such people in the self-appointed Kiev government, and there were thousands of such people on Maidan. Now many of them are still armed and still pose a problem. As well as those who desperate to get NATO involved. This is extremely nonconstructive and irresponsible behavior.
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norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague sasy #Russia has not made any concessions over #Ukraine



norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague says #russia has made no move to de-escalate situation in #ukraine

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Roughly translated the referendum is still going ahead
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falling more now...
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Yes its -155.19 but to put it into context that is only -0,95% so its nothing yet..
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norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague sasy #Russia has not made any concessions over #Ukraine



norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague says #russia has made no move to de-escalate situation in #ukraine

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No shit Billy boy! What you gonna do about it, you bald silly-voiced tit?
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LOL.
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Part 7


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This was posted some pages and hours back, but without embedding.

I was expecting some comments on it, but as usual a video not embedded does not attract much attention on this board.
Never mind that, we who dive in here for pearls, finds plenty.
Thanks to all fact finding and hardworking posters of all kinds that contributes to this thread.

And, yes take your time and look at this video, and the very professional approach of this independent reporter to both major sides in Crimea.

Take care
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I liked the old man in the end. He seemed quite pragmatic. :)
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Definitely.
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Dow Drops 150 points as jitters Mount over China, Ukraine.

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Reutuuers: German FM Steinmeier says all attempts to de-escalate the situation in Crimea, Ukraine, have been rejected by Russia
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With a name like Steinmeier, he has to be good! That is a good, solid German name. Probably has blue eyes and sandy hair too.
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Dow Drops 150 points as jitters Mount over China, Ukraine.

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-160
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Raymond Pritchett‏@Galrahn·9 mins
It feels like Lavrov is going to London to give John Kerry the conditions for US surrender on Crimea. [link to abcnews.go.com] …
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Northcom, NORAD Stand Ready to Defend Nation, Commander Says
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As well we should....defend THIS NATION, that is & stop running around fucking things up & getting caught in the process. They aren't even decent villains, the incompetent douchebags!
I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends).

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Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters!

"When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007
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-180
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-201
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The Baruch Plan
[link to www.rense.com]
less 50%

In 1946, the US government put to Stalin a plan for World Government, created by Bernard Baruch & David Lilienthal, both Jews. This plan was put in the pages of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Bertrand Russell described its development in his book Has Man a Future?. Baruch had earlier been associated with Wilson's attempt to have the League of Nations created as a World Government, with a World Army and a World Court. The Encyclopaedia Judaica (Jerusalem, 1971) says that Baruch "served on the Supreme Economic Council at the Conference of Versailles, where he was President Wilson's personal economic adviser".


Stalin got cold feet - he'd noticed the Jewish campaign to have a Jewish republic within the USSR, created in the Crimea. What unnerved him especially was that AMERICAN Jews, with their huge financial power, would be involved, and he felt that the USSR would lose control.

As a result, some leaders of the Jewish Antifascist Committee (American at that) had their lives shortened.

Arnold J. Toynbee, of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, argues the case for World Government: "Abolishing war would involve setting up at least a rudimentary world-government. The first world-authority that it would be necessary for us to establish - and, of course, also to endow with effective power - would be a central agency for controlling the production and the use of atomic energy. ... " toynbee.html.

A proposal for World Government is a serious matter, affecting everyone. World Government will be final: there will be no "trial run", and nowhere to escape should it turn bad. Examination is therefore warranted; to promote study of this matter, here are images of the pages of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists:
Untroubled, Scornful, Outrageous-That is how Wisdom wants us to be!
White Genocide: 1900AD @ 35% - Today less than 8% of the earth's population
Sophia's Correction
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gandalf greybeard‏@gerrydogma·59 mins
Russian Mi-35m gunship flying low over Myrnyi, Crimea. [link to www.youtube.com] …
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Dow Drops 150 points as jitters Mount over China, Ukraine.

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 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


-160
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Still its only about 1% drop. When its getting closer to 6-700 point drop then its a bit worrysome but for now.. Its all within normal fluctuations..
Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne

Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide

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norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague sasy #Russia has not made any concessions over #Ukraine



norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague says #russia has made no move to de-escalate situation in #ukraine

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55549932


No shit Billy boy! What you gonna do about it, you bald silly-voiced tit?
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Fart in their general direction?
I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends).

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

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Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters!

"When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007
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-180
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-201

 Quoting: Luisport


That drop fast
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gandalf greybeard‏@gerrydogma·48 mins
Russian military train passing through Tver yesterday. Note the BM-30 heavy MRL's at the end. [link to www.youtube.com] … @Galrahn @20committee
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URK airspace probably not going to be a safe place to fly in the near future -



Raymond Pritchett‏@Galrahn40 mins

This kind of stuff kind of speaks for itself. [link to tsn.ua] …



Raymond Pritchett‏@Galrahn17 mins

@rschon basically it says all Russian commercial flights have changed routes to avoid Ukrainian airspace.
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Russian commercial flights are still flying in and out of Kiev though.
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norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague sasy #Russia has not made any concessions over #Ukraine



norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 2 min

William Hague says #russia has made no move to de-escalate situation in #ukraine

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55549932


Roughly translated the referendum is still going ahead
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seems to me the referendum is some sort of a deadline regardless of the fate of Crimea itself. The result is clear. Why that much attention if Crimea was autonomous and Europe witnessed other autonomous regions secession? This is a deadline because afterwards the shooting will start. First for Ukraine then for the world. There is no logic so much noise of a peninsula that is full of Russians. Instead politicians like Merkel and Obama throw all their weight behind that piece of land. History knows such cases. WW1 started for smaller "reason".
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Don't spam the thread with Dow movements unless its worse than -300.
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-180
 Quoting: Luisport


-201

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nasty looking intraday chart too.
Going to be a nasty candle if it closes at LOD.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·44 mins
Romania allows NATO ships free access in their waters as well as authorizes NATO reconnaissance planes to use their airspace 4 Ukraine ops
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NEWS UKRAINE WAR Russia Priests bless Topol M ICBMs

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That's effed up!
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Pity that a big part of Russians brainwashed by putler's propaganda believe it. And even more pity that a lot of members here replicate these lies, some of members do it deliberately, but others - unconsciously.
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Russians are not brainwashed, they simply don't like it when people shout offensive slogans towards Russia and call for ethnic cleansing as well as people who cover their activity. It is a well established fact that there are a lot of such people in the self-appointed Kiev government, and there were thousands of such people on Maidan. Now many of them are still armed and still pose a problem. As well as those who desperate to get NATO involved. This is extremely nonconstructive and irresponsible behavior.
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thumbsWell! You give background to your view instead of vague inference above your post.
I've noticed it's not exactly easy to glean any details in so much foggy accusation. Kind of slippery you might say.





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