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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Russia propaganda is now the worst it’s been since 1950s, Estonia President @IlvesToomas tells me … and he would know [link to cnn.it]

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Reports from Slavyansk say that the army troops sent to the eastern Ukrainian city for an “anti-terrorist operation” are leaving en masse. Some troops are openly voicing support for the eastern Ukrainians, while others are speaking out against a war.

[link to rt.com]
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I just don't understand... Isn't it a smaller percentage that is pro-russian? Don't these people understand Russia's involvement in this whole ordeal? Are people too scared to speak up? What are your thoughts?
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All Ukrainians, up to a few years ago, were taught Russian. The Ukrainian language has grown since then, but It's hard to learn a new language, even if you prefer to speak the new one. I'm sure that many western Ukrainian homes speak russian to themselves. Ukrainians are smart people. They are surely aware of the disadvantages of throwing in with the US/EU factions. Russia doesn't look so bad when you are that close. Plus They all identify as Ukrainians, regardless of their language. None of them want to kill the other side. The question is how can they be set up so that everybody is happy? They have to choose between the choices offered. It IS the American backed non-elected kiev govt that is so hot to kill Russian speakers, not the Ukrainians themselves.
Maybe you don't understand Russia's involvement. Russia has been nothing but nice, so far.
As for Russians being found in leadership positions in E Ukraine? The US has sent in "advisers" for Years and Years into an area where they want a war.
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Very strong words from Russian FM, never see something like this before FROM them TO USA since the beginning of all this shit
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Locals in Kramatorsk, Slaviansk all talk about Right Sector as if they are elite ninjas armed to their teeth. Amazingly powerful paranoia.




What's driving what's going on in Donetsk region is combination of

-Putin's massive web of propaganda lies like that above,
-plus the work of Russian mil & intelligence agents inside the area,
-plus money being paid out to local helpers.
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Like what's going on in Kiev by the west, only the local populous in the east cares enough to do something about it making a stand, unlike Kiev.
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So many trolls and shills. Makes me lose hope for humanity with how stupid some of you are. It should be obvious by now that Ukraines revolution was a western backed coup. Or did you think all those people just quit their jobs and stopped feeding their families for months? I can guarentee the money didn't come from the corrupt oligarchs that have control of the government now, they are in the business of stealing money from their own people, not handing it out. So who provided the money and logistics for the coup to happen?

But anyway i digress, the fact is maiden undertook a violent coup to secure power all while screaming bloody murder about the over use of force. The government did the right thing not using the military against its own people but now we have corrupt oligarchs in control. Then they condemn their fellow Ukrainians of Russian heritage for essentially doing the same thing they did but now all the sudden its okay for them to use military force to massacre civilians? What does it matter if Russia is supporting them? They have popular consent from the people in those regions, aka democracy in action. Dont you see the fucking hypocrisy of that? The west screams bloody murder if too much force is used against their side then they okay military operations against their opposition. Thank God Ukraines soldiers aren't as stupid as some of you or wed be lobbing nukes back and forth by now. If the troops arent willing to shoot their own people then that should explain the situation more than anything else. It means the oligarch new government is essentially criminal and stupid and the citizens of Ukraine dont even trust it. If they arent willing to fight against The Russia seperatists, what fucking right does the western world have to interfere and get involved? We have none, our leaders are insane and power hungry.
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The official Western narrative is the only one that matters. The only shills I see here are the Anti-American scum sounding like RT anchors.
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This ^ is a perfect example of what the previous poster meant regarding pro west shill. No logic simply insults.
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Indeed. Sad to see these trolls infiltrating the thread.
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Putin tells Netanyahu that Kiev regime is to blame for escalations in eastern Ukraine; both agree to cooperation on issues of mutual interest.
Ynetnews
Published:  04.16.14, 17:07 / Israel News

Reportedly on Netanyahu's request, the two leaders discussed the situation in Ukraine, which Israeli politicians have been steering clear of, concerned possible security threats could arise if relations with Moscow were to suffer.
 
Two days ago, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel failed to support a UN vote hled earlier March in wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. "We were surprised that Israel did not join the vast majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine’s territorial integrity in the United Nations," she said.
 
In their phonecall, Putin gave Netenyahu his analysis on the situation, blaming the deteriorating security condition in eastern Ukraine on the irresponsibility by the Kiev government, with whom Russia has locked horns in recent months.

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Israel is siding closer to Russia
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Interesting to note that when Israel was first founded, there was an assumption it would Communist and under the Soviet sphere of influence...
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the biggest Jewish percent in today's Israel came from ex-USSR. They the old generation of that biggest group all know Russian (don't make referendum!) and have childhood memories from Motherland. Perhaps they don't have to choose between Russia and America. Russia and America have to choose to be on the side of God's people
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Agreed they know all surviving Russians whatever their ethnic group were the biggest victims of the revolution and Stalin, many of them are not religious and have good friends living back HOME.
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Please to the master posters, when you see a troll send me a private message. It will help me to don't let he thread to derail... hf
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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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when were the talks scheduled for ?
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So many trolls and shills. Makes me lose hope for humanity with how stupid some of you are. It should be obvious by now that Ukraines revolution was a western backed coup. Or did you think all those people just quit their jobs and stopped feeding their families for months? I can guarentee the money didn't come from the corrupt oligarchs that have control of the government now, they are in the business of stealing money from their own people, not handing it out. So who provided the money and logistics for the coup to happen?

But anyway i digress, the fact is maiden undertook a violent coup to secure power all while screaming bloody murder about the over use of force. The government did the right thing not using the military against its own people but now we have corrupt oligarchs in control. Then they condemn their fellow Ukrainians of Russian heritage for essentially doing the same thing they did but now all the sudden its okay for them to use military force to massacre civilians? What does it matter if Russia is supporting them? They have popular consent from the people in those regions, aka democracy in action. Dont you see the fucking hypocrisy of that? The west screams bloody murder if too much force is used against their side then they okay military operations against their opposition. Thank God Ukraines soldiers aren't as stupid as some of you or wed be lobbing nukes back and forth by now. If the troops arent willing to shoot their own people then that should explain the situation more than anything else. It means the oligarch new government is essentially criminal and stupid and the citizens of Ukraine dont even trust it. If they arent willing to fight against The Russia seperatists, what fucking right does the western world have to interfere and get involved? We have none, our leaders are insane and power hungry.
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THIS +11111111111111111111111
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@WilliamJHague: Spoken to Ukrainian PM Yatsenyuk. Fully support his to efforts to keep the country unified in face of Russian aggression
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Ukraine Reporter&#8207;@StateOfUkraine·31m
#Kiev #Ukraine prepares for full scale war with #Russia by readying bomb shelters [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
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when were the talks scheduled for ?
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Tomorrow
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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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You're joking, right?
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when were the talks scheduled for ?
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Tomorrow
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cheers buddy
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Very strong words from Russian FM, never see something like this before FROM them TO USA since the beginning of all this shit
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It looks like a Russia is telling US and EU: "you've lost this game" and they are desperatelly trying to change the rules of the game, but it's not working. If they would accept they have lost, it might spare us from WWIII.
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Christiane Amanpour &#8207;@camanpour 3m
Russia has “no plans to intervene militarily, no plans to invade anybody,” Russian amb tells me: [link to www.cnn.com] Full intv in 30 mins

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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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BANNED!!!
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Luis the killer!!!

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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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BANNED!!!
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Why Serbian IPs are banned on this forum?
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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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BANNED!!!
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Luis the killer!!!

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LOL You know i don't like it...
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If Russian special forces are indeed in Ukraine, then they are flagging targets for an air raid.

With well over 40,000 soldiers and over a million tons of military hardware, hard to believe it is just for show. Putin intends to capture the NATO chess piece Ukraine.

Meanwhile, will Obama apply more sanctions to Putin's buddies? This is laughable at best.
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The bear is getting pissed

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Not that much. They expected such situation, and now it's the time to speak out ;)

I wish I could translate what Putin had to say about ... well about everything and pressure on Russia in just 4 minutes, few month ago.


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Anyone remember this ^^^

I don't think we in the west have a single clue what this guy is capable of and prepared to do...

Talk about running rings around a lot of our leaders...
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Why Serbian IPs are banned on this forum?
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I don't ban Serbians or othe specific nationality, i already ban Spanish, Canadians, a lot of Americans, etc...
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when were the talks scheduled for ?
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Tomorrow
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no doom until after those talks i think .
im off to the pub :)
I wish i was fishing instead :)
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where is the fucking show??? this is a joke 3000 pages of nothing.
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BANNED!!!
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Luis the killer!!!

Goofy Thum
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LOL You know i don't like it...
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cheers





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