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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54922531 Trinidad and Tobago 03/01/2014 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 Only Poland and Turkey are militarily strong to do something outside their borders. But not even they would go against Russia. Slovakia, Hungary and Romania could do something only at home - defend as best they could. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are sitting ducks and completely dependent on others. Turkey has to keep a stern eye on Russia.. How far they are willing to go with a nuclear armed russia remains to be seen. unless a second NuClear armed power is there Russia Will win, Its the only way to try and garantee nuclear weapons are not sued. You think russia will not hesitate to use them ?? They never dismantdled any!! |
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Abrasive Fuck User ID: 53839221 United States 03/01/2014 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't get it... you people bitch all day about how weak and prone to vaginal drafts Obozo is yet some of you think that going to war against Russia is gonna make everything he has done for the past six years all-right. smh Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54726318 If you go to war only the good people of America get to die and for what ? .. so that the puppet can keep on playing golf with his IMF homies The only war you should fight is for freedom not for the interests of the few in power. ( obviously this goes for every country) I don't want war at all.. was just noting the amazing difference in leadership abilities. Bammy is a weakling, it's just that simple. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53990064 United Kingdom 03/01/2014 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 if they know whats good for them they will stand against this. cause when Russia does the same to them no one will help. I agree and I think that those countries do too. That explains why Latvia and Lithuania have invoked article 4 of the NATO charter, demanding an immediate emergency meeting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51700399 United States 03/01/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Sure, but last time we had a World War, our President got elected 3 times.... DING DING You just said it! Stand up Barry, your people are calling! He is prevented from running a third time by Constitutional Amendment....but you never know......maybe this is his chance to backhandley suspend the Constitution and have himself elected King.Yep. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54943212 Ireland 03/01/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 There are MAJOR Russian military buildups on Estonian - Russian border right now. My friend serves in the army and called me, said no one is being let home - weapons are being prepared and battalions are slowly moving towards eastern Estonia. Also checkpoints set up on the border. Also their battalion is placed on alert. Not sure about others. Why? Has Estonia been threatened? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54922531 Trinidad and Tobago 03/01/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If the UK and US don't honour the Budapest Agreement of 1994 then what is the point in agreements and alliances? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 Yeah I guess Russia and Yanukovich asked themselves the same question when the west and the their pupptes in ukraine broke the signed agreement less than 24 hours later. Budapest agreement was guidelines, not a treaty, non biding agreement. There are other more important and binding international rules and treaties. And if one side or the other wants war, it's moot anyway. Budapest was a memorandum.. a signed treaty.. Ukraine destroyed 1900 nuclear warheads.. Its a signed deal.. DO not bs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21579085 United States 03/01/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 There are MAJOR Russian military buildups on Estonian - Russian border right now. My friend serves in the army and called me, said no one is being let home - weapons are being prepared and battalions are slowly moving towards eastern Estonia. Also checkpoints set up on the border. Also their battalion is placed on alert. Not sure about others. Baltic states next? [link to news.err.ee] |
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User ID: 28643549 United States 03/01/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If the UK and US don't honour the Budapest Agreement of 1994 then what is the point in agreements and alliances? If the UK and US do not act to defend Ukrainian territorial integrity (and that means ALL of the Ukraine, including Crimea, which has been part of the Ukraine since the 50s, let alone since Ukrainian independence) then it will also undermine NATO. Russia will have a green light to move on the Baltic states. They are members of NATO, but hey, if the promises of the UK and US, the two main NATO powers, are good for nothing then what has Russia got to fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 I think Russia is playing a much bigger game here than most think. I also don't believe that the Ukranian military is as weak as being portrayed. Sure some units will sympathise with the Russians and refuse to fight or defect, but many Ukranian units are now itching to fight. Ukranians are a proud people, and over the last decade especially have been very active training and integrating with NATO forces. Heck, the Ukraine even deployed troops to both Iraq and Afghanistan! Most members of the Ukranian armed forces are going to be too young to remember the Soviet days and, due to their age group, many are likely to be very European and western in outlook. If the majority of the Ukrainian armed forces had been politically pro-Russia I think they would not have stood by and let the pro-European movement bring down the pro-Russian government in the first place. The fact that they refused to get involved and that the deposed president even fired the chief-of-staff at the last minute (probably because he refused to side with him) tells me that the Ukranian armed forces are not as pro-Russian as the MSM is making out. Rather I think that the Ukranian armed forces are being very sensible and waiting to see if the UK and US step up to honour their agreements to back them up. If they know they have major powers backing them up then they will make a move back into Crimea. If they are left on their own then they will just sit tight and try to maintain the rest of the Ukraine and avoid engaging the Russians. This is very similar to what happened in Czechoslovakia in the late 30s. The Czechs were well armed and ready to fight the Germans, but they knew they could only stand a chance if Britain and France backed them up. We concur MisfitToy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54922531 Trinidad and Tobago 03/01/2014 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 if they know whats good for them they will stand against this. cause when Russia does the same to them no one will help. I agree and I think that those countries do too. That explains why Latvia and Lithuania have invoked article 4 of the NATO charter, demanding an immediate emergency meeting. Exactly.. |
henryk User ID: 2771636 Georgia 03/01/2014 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 Only if they are attacked. They can't just suddenly jump in and drag the whole of NATO into a conflict of their own choosing. NATO won't accept countries where there are frozen conflicts either, so that rules out places like Georgia... and Ukraine if Russia decide to leave one in the freezer, so to speak. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21579085 United States 03/01/2014 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If the UK and US don't honour the Budapest Agreement of 1994 then what is the point in agreements and alliances? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 Yeah I guess Russia and Yanukovich asked themselves the same question when the west and the their pupptes in ukraine broke the signed agreement less than 24 hours later. Budapest agreement was guidelines, not a treaty, non biding agreement. There are other more important and binding international rules and treaties. And if one side or the other wants war, it's moot anyway. Budapest was a memorandum.. a signed treaty.. Ukraine destroyed 1900 nuclear warheads.. Its a signed deal.. DO not bs. A memorandum is not a treaty asshat. [link to www.rferl.mobi] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54926297 United States 03/01/2014 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 There are MAJOR Russian military buildups on Estonian - Russian border right now. My friend serves in the army and called me, said no one is being let home - weapons are being prepared and battalions are slowly moving towards eastern Estonia. Also checkpoints set up on the border. Also their battalion is placed on alert. Not sure about others. Why? Has Estonia been threatened? My guess Nato has given or shortly will give the orders to send the troops to all the nato borders. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51700399 United States 03/01/2014 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 They have to.........they are not just going to stand there and let Russia buttfuck them................come on. Exactly, but they can stand there and let US, EU and IMF buttfuck them...Another joke. True. But since the "majority" of Ukrainians are supposed to be in favor of the EU..............it would be a matter of "consenting adults." ANOTHER joke. Ha-ha. |
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Abrasive Fuck User ID: 53839221 United States 03/01/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Swedish media: Quoting: Falter Nobody will intervene against Putin President Putin's path towards an invasion of Ukraine is open. The world will be fierce and unanimous in their condemnation. But no one will intervene to stop Russia. Putin has again become one of the big boys in the playground that nobody dares to muck with. Good points. But the West could give covert help to Ukrainians in pro-EU regions if Putin wants to grab those parts of the country too. They already have.. What the fuck do you think started this whole thing??? Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
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User ID: 44465073 Estonia 03/01/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I'm from Estonia, just North from Lithuania and Latvia. We're called the Baltic states. Our relations with Russia are probably the worst in the EU. "The master understands that the universe is always out of control". -Lao Tzu The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart. If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others. If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54943212 Ireland 03/01/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One of the interesting and unpredictable things here is what will Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Turkey do? They are all members of NATO and will all be watching this very closely, and will all be alarmed with each new move Russia makes and each salvo of hot air with no actions coming from the mouths of western leaders. If any of these nations decide to take action then NATO will be sucked in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064 There are MAJOR Russian military buildups on Estonian - Russian border right now. My friend serves in the army and called me, said no one is being let home - weapons are being prepared and battalions are slowly moving towards eastern Estonia. Also checkpoints set up on the border. Also their battalion is placed on alert. Not sure about others. Why? Has Estonia been threatened? My guess Nato has given or shortly will give the orders to send the troops to all the nato borders. Good, maybe they can do something to stop all the illegal immigrants! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54922531 Trinidad and Tobago 03/01/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43522607 Yeah I guess Russia and Yanukovich asked themselves the same question when the west and the their pupptes in ukraine broke the signed agreement less than 24 hours later. Budapest agreement was guidelines, not a treaty, non biding agreement. There are other more important and binding international rules and treaties. And if one side or the other wants war, it's moot anyway. Budapest was a memorandum.. a signed treaty.. Ukraine destroyed 1900 nuclear warheads.. Its a signed deal.. DO not bs. A memorandum is not a treaty asshat. [link to www.rferl.mobi] yeah, I meant agreement... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21579085 United States 03/01/2014 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Via breakingnews.com Turkish Foreign Affairs Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu on Ukraine: 'Turkey will make every effort to secure Crimea's future within Ukraine's territorial integrity' - @A_Davutoglu_eng |