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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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US should consider dissolving NATO – State Duma deputy Pushkov
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lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55983976


Sad isn't it. What a impotent thing for him to say.

When he should have said:
Lies! Lies and more dam lies!
As the neocons and Obama regime go 'all in' to back the illegal coup d' etat in Ukraine the propaganda machine is in overdrive. In addition to lies about the Neo-Nazi elements of the puppet government and incessant anti-Putin demagoguery any discussion of the consequences of all of this is omitted.

 Quoting: DawaSatso


Putin has already called the west out for their lies in Ukraine.. And in Syria too.

For him, libya was the breaking point.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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Is Putin NWO and what is NWO then?
What we see for the last 1 month after Yanukovich ordered flee on Feb 22 from Kiev, is a theater of a bigger scenario. But what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88


Or create a new "new world order" where China and Russia rule instead of US...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34676411


no. Russia and China will dismantle the NWO and thereby
open the way for all the Peoples to create govenments that
are responsive to The People's Will.

.
 Quoting: cats88

No

'We Will Strive to Ensure a New World Order': Vladimir Putin

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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Is Putin NWO and what is NWO then?
What we see for the last 1 month after Yanukovich ordered flee on Feb 22 from Kiev, is a theater of a bigger scenario. But what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88

To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
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Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88


Or create a new "new world order" where China and Russia rule instead of US...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34676411


no. Russia and China will dismantle the NWO and thereby
open the way for all the Peoples to create govenments that
are responsive to The People's Will.

.
 Quoting: cats88

No

'We Will Strive to Ensure a New World Order': Vladimir Putin

[link to www.theblaze.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55989566

fine. call it what you will. the People will call it "Freedom From Tyranny"

.
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The destabilization of Moldova would be a security threat. Doesn't have to be a territorial integrity threat.

If NATO doesn't do shit if that happens then I'll start rootin for Pootin.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


The majority in Transnistria region of Moldova is ethnic Russian and supports unification with Russia. Transnistria has a short Black Sea coast. Russia could annex the region without invading Ukraine. Control of the port of Odessa could help things. Odessa and southern Ukraine are also ethnic Russian areas. Ukraine would be left landlocked if Odessa region were annexed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


1) It's an absolute blatant lie to say "majority in Transnistria is ethnic Russian" since, even per Wikipedia "In total, in the areas controlled by the PMR government, there were 555,347 people, including 177,785 Moldovans (32.10%) 168,678 Russians (30.35%) 160,069 Ukrainians (28.81%) 13,858 Bulgarians (2.50%) 4,096 Gagauzians (0.74%), (etc)"

2) There's absolutely NO Black Sea cost in Transnistria, please check maps before posting this.

3) Yes Russia could annex it but without a serious Ukrainian support on that side of the border the region would struggle to survive since all supplies lines to/from Russia would be most liley cut by Ukrainians.

4) Yes the intention of pres Putain is to make Ukraine a land-locked no-man's country and then divide it up (yes, he will cede portions close to Poland to "independent Ukraine" but the south and east he will definitely annex to RF).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55885522


1) "In 2006, 97 percent of Transnistrians voted to join Russia in a referendum." Source:

[link to atlanticsentinel.com]

Ethnic makeup of Transnistria is secondary. In Crimea, ethnic Ukrainians and Tatars also supported unification with Russia. Russia is tolerant of minorities. Other countries are not.

2) You are correct. Looks like Russia would have to go through a patch of Ukrainian territory. My mistake for believing what I read on the Internets.

3) Ukraine is not in a position to stop Russia from doing anything.

4) Putin was already satisfied with the way things were in Ukraine before NATO intervened. Now he must act to preserve Russian interests - gas pipelines through Ukraine, Black Sea fleet, ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians, refugees, etc.
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Well, if you're gonna turn Pootinesque if NATO doesn't do something if Moldova gets destabilized, then you'll be playing exactly into the hands of the Ruskies... Maybe the whole of Romania too :D
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Many in Europe already do. I would only join a growing club of pro-Pootin/Russia voices.
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Very calm now!!
Calm before the storm?????

afro
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@L0gg0l: Speculation that missing Boeing 777 could be used to attack Nuclear Summit in The Hague [link to t.co] #MH370 #NSS2014
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Well, what if they are self defense forces. There's that chance *kof*.
hmm
(huffy)
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Russian self-defense forces in russia you mean? Possible but somehow I find it unlikely. :)
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I feel so alone.
Or a big lungful of comic relief again before I feel too crazy:

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Let me jump in here then (rescue remedy).

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Take care
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lol Even 3 wishes are wasted on the likes of the endearing like Igor.
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Well, if you're gonna turn Pootinesque if NATO doesn't do something if Moldova gets destabilized, then you'll be playing exactly into the hands of the Ruskies... Maybe the whole of Romania too :D
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Putin doesn't want any part of Romania or Poland. they can have themselves.

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Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88


Or create a new "new world order" where China and Russia rule instead of US...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34676411


no. Russia and China will dismantle the NWO and thereby
open the way for all the Peoples to create govenments that
are responsive to The People's Will.

.
 Quoting: cats88

No

'We Will Strive to Ensure a New World Order': Vladimir Putin

[link to www.theblaze.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55989566


In the pre-9/11 Mujahideen (Al-Qaeda) recruitment videos the New World Order conspiracy was mentioned. It was seen, by the Mujahideen, as a conspiracy which the western governments were a part of. The Mujahideen were anti Russian, but at that point in time they were focusing on the United States. Now it seems the New World Order conspiracy is being painted as something that only involves the Russians.

[link to www.thedoggstar.com]
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Is Putin NWO and what is NWO then?
What we see for the last 1 month after Yanukovich ordered flee on Feb 22 from Kiev, is a theater of a bigger scenario. But what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88

To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Get help.
blink
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Is Putin NWO and what is NWO then?
What we see for the last 1 month after Yanukovich ordered flee on Feb 22 from Kiev, is a theater of a bigger scenario. But what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88

To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Get help.
blink
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are you so young as your picture shows? What do you add or reject with that f. statement? If you are under 18 you may not discuss
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@L0gg0l: Speculation that missing Boeing 777 could be used to attack Nuclear Summit in The Hague [link to t.co] #MH370 #NSS2014
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5a


Absolutely????
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the problem with the term "New World Order" is that everybody
has a different understanding of what it means.

before this thing is over everybody will end up killing everybody else!

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laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
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Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88

To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Get help.
blink
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are you so young as your picture shows? What do you add or reject with that f. statement? If you are under 18 you may not discuss
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721

Lost in a funhouse of your own making. All suggestions taken in without discriminating into a landfill called a mind.

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Is Putin NWO and what is NWO then?
What we see for the last 1 month after Yanukovich ordered flee on Feb 22 from Kiev, is a theater of a bigger scenario. But what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Russia and China are on the move to totally dismantle the whole NWO.

.
 Quoting: cats88

To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


the last several popes tried hard to make bridge with Russia. Perhaps now is the time for the pope to show how good the Vatican diplomacy is, is it better than the Western diplomacy or not.
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To dismantle the so called NWO that we expect from internet conspiracy. And to establish theirs instead. I wonder who Palpatine is. Francis/Benedict? Putin is not the author of all that. Neither Hu nor Xi. So may be someone in the West have interest of that? Not necessarily NATO/EU/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


Get help.
blink
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are you so young as your picture shows? What do you add or reject with that f. statement? If you are under 18 you may not discuss
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721

Lost in a funhouse of your own making. All suggestions taken in without discriminating into a landfill called a mind.
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then please next time don't insult me and try to answer on the topic something more sane. Thank you
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The destabilization of Moldova would be a security threat. Doesn't have to be a territorial integrity threat.

If NATO doesn't do shit if that happens then I'll start rootin for Pootin.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


The majority in Transnistria region of Moldova is ethnic Russian and supports unification with Russia. Transnistria has a short Black Sea coast. Russia could annex the region without invading Ukraine. Control of the port of Odessa could help things. Odessa and southern Ukraine are also ethnic Russian areas. Ukraine would be left landlocked if Odessa region were annexed.
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No, Transnistria is landlocked
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Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk cancels visit to The Hague to round up talks with IMF mission

World March 23, 20:15 UTC+4

KIEV, March 23, /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine’s interim acting prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has cancelled a trip to The Hague he was going to make Monday. Instead, he plans to round up talks with a mission of the International Monetary Fund currently visiting Ukraine, he said.

“I’m cancelling my trip to The Hague because I must hold talks with the IMF tomorrow so that we could formalize the program (of assistance),” he said.

March 24-25, he was expected to take part in a nuclear security summit in The Hague.

IMF mission rounds up its work in Ukraine March 25.
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Any leader that makes a deal with the IMF is a traitor to his country.
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^Word!
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The destabilization of Moldova would be a security threat. Doesn't have to be a territorial integrity threat.

If NATO doesn't do shit if that happens then I'll start rootin for Pootin.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


The majority in Transnistria region of Moldova is ethnic Russian and supports unification with Russia. Transnistria has a short Black Sea coast. Russia could annex the region without invading Ukraine. Control of the port of Odessa could help things. Odessa and southern Ukraine are also ethnic Russian areas. Ukraine would be left landlocked if Odessa region were annexed.
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No, Transnistria is landlocked
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quit quibbling. Putin's gonna take all of Moldavia.

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Well, what if they are self defense forces. There's that chance *kof*.
hmm
(huffy)
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Russian self-defense forces in russia you mean? Possible but somehow I find it unlikely. :)
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I feel so alone.
Or a big lungful of comic relief again before I feel too crazy:

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Let me jump in here then (rescue remedy).

Hump! - What Hump?





Take care
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A classic I have to watch again very soon.
Thanks for the rescue remedies hf
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Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk cancels visit to The Hague to round up talks with IMF mission

World March 23, 20:15 UTC+4

KIEV, March 23, /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine’s interim acting prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has cancelled a trip to The Hague he was going to make Monday. Instead, he plans to round up talks with a mission of the International Monetary Fund currently visiting Ukraine, he said.

“I’m cancelling my trip to The Hague because I must hold talks with the IMF tomorrow so that we could formalize the program (of assistance),” he said.

March 24-25, he was expected to take part in a nuclear security summit in The Hague.

IMF mission rounds up its work in Ukraine March 25.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45310056


Any leader that makes a deal with the IMF is a traitor to his country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


^Word!
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clappaOwned by the IMF trap

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Any leader that makes a deal with the IMF is a traitor to his country.
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^Word!
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clappaOwned by the IMF trap
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DawaSatso, get the bat shit out of your brain. what the hell are you talking about. who's side are you on? anyway. (sheeeesh)
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You are on the side of the IMF?

hmmmmm
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LBCI News English ‏@LBCI_News_EN 51 sec

#Putin and #Merkel discuss #Crimea and #Ukraine by phone; Kremlin says both voice satisfaction with agreement on OSCE mission for Ukraine
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Its gonna be highly interesting to see how this will all turn out. Russia has only 3 real options now-


- Return to rationality- remove troops from Crimea which is still Ukrainian property, and cease other ogoing hostilies against Ukraine.

- Stay deluded and stubbornly obstinate, and face economic warfare and be destroyed by it.

- Go to war against nations which combined are 20 times more powerful than it in terms of economic power and conventional military power.
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Anyone had a look at the Global Incident Map lately???? hiding

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20:00 Press Conference of U.S. Congressional Delegation. Participants: Senator Kelly Ayotte (Republican – New Hampshire) Senator Joe Donnelly (Democrat – Indiana) Representative Stephen F. Lynch (Democrat – Massachusetts)

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Anyone had a look at the Global Incident Map lately???? hiding

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Happy to live in the north.. :)
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