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Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 01:31 29.03.2014 Interfax-Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45011575 Ashton condemns the actions of the right sector in relation to the Ukrainian Parliament EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Vice-President of the European Commission Catherine Ashton strongly condemns the actions of the right sector in relation to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and urges to refrain from violence. It goes about this in a statement, Ashton released late Friday evening in Brussels. "I strongly condemn the pressure rights activist sector that surrounded the building of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Such intimidation of parliament contrary to democratic principles and the rule of law," - said in a statement. In this regard, Ashton called Right sector and "other parties in Ukraine to refrain from the use or threat of violence." "They should immediately inform the authorities any unauthorized weapon", - added the EU High Representative. However, she believes that it is necessary to conduct an impartial and credible investigation into the death of Alexander Muzychko during detention. "I welcome the establishment of the Verkhovna Rada of the special commission to establish the facts," - added Ashton. Hillarious LMFAO, stupid **** already turned 180 degrees in just a few weeks?? Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50833982 United States 03/28/2014 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: RTS REDUX I can tell by your profile that your kind of new here. I'd guess that at least 75% of the pro-nazi, Putin bashers on this thread are employed by Cass Sunstein. I wouldn't let it bother you too much because the ENTIRE MSM is shilling the same way for the NWO. Have you noticed there hasn't been a single politician in the US who agreed with what occured in Crimea? Didn't Ron Paul say some semi-decent stuff about the situation? "I'll have more leeway when I am reelected in November" President Barack Hussein Obama caught off mic. lol I assume you're joking And you would be wrong . He actually said that. |
Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/28/2014 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Thales Cooper ‏@CooperThales · 5h Simferopol NOTAM from yesterday "[airport] CLOSED DUE TO TECHNICAL REASON UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE" but still RU aircrafts go in and out. Legal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 01:31 29.03.2014 Interfax-Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45011575 Ashton condemns the actions of the right sector in relation to the Ukrainian Parliament EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Vice-President of the European Commission Catherine Ashton strongly condemns the actions of the right sector in relation to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and urges to refrain from violence. It goes about this in a statement, Ashton released late Friday evening in Brussels. "I strongly condemn the pressure rights activist sector that surrounded the building of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Such intimidation of parliament contrary to democratic principles and the rule of law," - said in a statement. In this regard, Ashton called Right sector and "other parties in Ukraine to refrain from the use or threat of violence." "They should immediately inform the authorities any unauthorized weapon", - added the EU High Representative. However, she believes that it is necessary to conduct an impartial and credible investigation into the death of Alexander Muzychko during detention. "I welcome the establishment of the Verkhovna Rada of the special commission to establish the facts," - added Ashton. Hillarious LMFAO, stupid **** already turned 180 degrees in just a few weeks?? Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45011575 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Churkin: elections in Ukraine amid lack of choice are fraught with country’s split Russia March 29, 5:01 UTC+4 UNITED NATIONS, March 29, /ITAR-TASS/. Amid the lack of a political leader capable of uniting the nation the May 25 election in Ukraine would “almost certainly” cause the country’s further split, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations Vitaly Churkin told Russian journalists on Friday. “At present there are no prerequisites for the election to defuse the existing tensions. The more so, since, as you know, in Ukraine there is no political leader who would be capable of uniting the nation. Holding elections in a situation like this would be the surest way of splitting the country, which would be a rather sad development,” Churkin said after a meeting of the UN Security Council behind closed doors. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56193132 Didn't Ron Paul say some semi-decent stuff about the situation? "I'll have more leeway when I am reelected in November" President Barack Hussein Obama caught off mic. lol I assume you're joking And you would be wrong . He actually said that. He did - in context of the missile shield which was being constructed to enable a nuclear first-strike against Russia, as is desired by the neo-con warmongers. I actually agree 100% with not installing the shiled, but unfortunately sometimes it is difficult to do the right thing because the fear-mongering liars convert an act of respect and the avoidance of destabilization into an act of weakness and capitulation. For example, in particular the Republicans, who are heavily bribed by the military contractors, tried to make Obama look weak for doing the right thing in this case. This is how the military-industrial complex manages to steal those hundreds of billions of dollars every year from the American taxpayer - fear and propaganda. The commies are coming! The commies are coming! Don't notice how your own government and bankers are really fucking with you, look over there at an imaginary threat! Sun_dancer |
djdandew1
User ID: 56072028 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @ISNJH 4m Russia launches nuclear war drills says drill was long planned not part of tensions! “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56183572 Ukraine 03/28/2014 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56183572 Bullshit ! Which people living in Kyiv and Odesa are visiting Crimea and how many ? Or, may be, those who has a registration in Crimea, but worked in the mainland and now coming back either to see whether everything is OK with relatives and to solve properties issues caused by reregistration demanded by occupation authorities ? As for teachers, have they already received their first Russian salary, really ? And even in hryvna, 7000 UAH ? Come on ! This reveals another one Russian shill. Don't present your wishes and dreams here as facts. And when and if it happens, don't forget to indicate what will be prices in Crimea to this moment. It seems in fact that you are the Shill here - what the first poster said is the general consensus on the ground. You seem to maybe be in Kiev but definitely not ethnic Ukrainian or Russian. Perhaps working for an NGO? How about the people in Kiev right now, not too many hours ago you all had a little issue there didn't you? What about the mobs that are pissed now at the current leadership? The current Regime is facing some heat already aren't they? And am I said this by a guy who is afraid to show his proxy, even a fake one ?! As for some event in Kyiv, I have no doubt that Russian agents know better what is happening in Kyiv than Kyivans themselves. One doesn't have to be a agent to know what's going on in Kiev if you follow the stories on the ground. But you wouldn't know being there what's reality if it hit you in the head! Nothing awfull happens in Kyiv. A normal life, people are a little bit more emotional because of possible Russia's invasion, but nothing extraordinary. During February clashes the life in Kyiv except a small corner was aslo fully normal. One manifestation near Rada on 27th cannot change a general perception. Everything else is an ill imagination of Russian propagandons. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Sun_dancer Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815535 "I'll have more leeway when I am reelected in November" President Barack Hussein Obama caught off mic. lol I assume you're joking And you would be wrong . He actually said that. He did - in context of the missile shield which was being constructed to enable a nuclear first-strike against Russia, as is desired by the neo-con warmongers. I actually agree 100% with not installing the shiled, but unfortunately sometimes it is difficult to do the right thing because the fear-mongering liars convert an act of respect and the avoidance of destabilization into an act of weakness and capitulation. For example, in particular the Republicans, who are heavily bribed by the military contractors, tried to make Obama look weak for doing the right thing in this case. This is how the military-industrial complex manages to steal those hundreds of billions of dollars every year from the American taxpayer - fear and propaganda. The commies are coming! The commies are coming! Don't notice how your own government and bankers are really fucking with you, look over there at an imaginary threat! Absolutely right! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45011575 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Sun_dancer Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? they brought tires, for no other reason than to sit on. and broke a few panes of glass in the door. i heard 2000 attended. not bad going for quite a good turnout. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Sun_dancer Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? [link to rt.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56191733 It seems in fact that you are the Shill here - what the first poster said is the general consensus on the ground. You seem to maybe be in Kiev but definitely not ethnic Ukrainian or Russian. Perhaps working for an NGO? How about the people in Kiev right now, not too many hours ago you all had a little issue there didn't you? What about the mobs that are pissed now at the current leadership? The current Regime is facing some heat already aren't they? And am I said this by a guy who is afraid to show his proxy, even a fake one ?! As for some event in Kyiv, I have no doubt that Russian agents know better what is happening in Kyiv than Kyivans themselves. One doesn't have to be a agent to know what's going on in Kiev if you follow the stories on the ground. But you wouldn't know being there what's reality if it hit you in the head! Nothing awfull happens in Kyiv. A normal life, people are a little bit more emotional because of possible Russia's invasion, but nothing extraordinary. During February clashes the life in Kyiv except a small corner was aslo fully normal. One manifestation near Rada on 27th cannot change a general perception. Everything else is an ill imagination of Russian propagandons. Sure - if you say so. Obviously you're not even informed of what's going on where you live, except for the little bit of info you are being spoon fed by your idols or bosses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Soraya Nelson: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 "...Russian officials are denying any build-up and are certainly not doing it publically. Plus, reporters are being refused permission to travel any closer than three miles to the border, which is likely where a lot of these military units are.... WERTHEIMER: Soraya, what about the Russians? How are they reacting to the troops' presence? NELSON: ....Nobody I spoke to favors an incursion into Ukraine...I interviewed one man next to the railway overpass where Russian armored vehicles were taken by train in the direction of the border. I can't identify him because he fears police retribution. UNIDENTIFIED MAN: (Speaking foreign language) NELSON: He says people were shocked when they saw the military vehicles and equipment passing by here. He describes them as belonging to elite Russian paratroopers. The Russian man adds there aren't normally military units in this area so the appearance of these vehicles and equipment raises the anxiety people are feeling over what many think or fear is a fascist takeover in neighboring Ukraine." [link to www.npr.org] inspectors used planes. try again It'll all be moot in a few days, brother. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Things are about to go to hell in the Ukraine and everyone knows it. No amount of paid disinfo agents here will change that. Russia isn't sending in 1800 guys in civvies w/backpacks for a "peaceful" takeover. |
BDAWGXDM
User ID: 52124304 United States 03/28/2014 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Soraya Nelson: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 "...Russian officials are denying any build-up and are certainly not doing it publically. Plus, reporters are being refused permission to travel any closer than three miles to the border, which is likely where a lot of these military units are.... WERTHEIMER: Soraya, what about the Russians? How are they reacting to the troops' presence? NELSON: ....Nobody I spoke to favors an incursion into Ukraine...I interviewed one man next to the railway overpass where Russian armored vehicles were taken by train in the direction of the border. I can't identify him because he fears police retribution. UNIDENTIFIED MAN: (Speaking foreign language) NELSON: He says people were shocked when they saw the military vehicles and equipment passing by here. He describes them as belonging to elite Russian paratroopers. The Russian man adds there aren't normally military units in this area so the appearance of these vehicles and equipment raises the anxiety people are feeling over what many think or fear is a fascist takeover in neighboring Ukraine." [link to www.npr.org] inspectors used planes. try again It'll all be moot in a few days, brother. What makes you say that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45011575 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Deputy DM: Russia in talks with Latin American countries over logistics, not bases Russia March 29, 5:10 UTC+4 In department emphasized that creation of points of providing for the Navy ships is discussed only [link to en.itar-tass.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The US were thugs to invade Iraq, and Russia is a thug to invade the Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 They didn't invade Ukraine and killed thousands and plundered the country. Can't come to terms that no shot was fired and Crimea after self determination according to International Law voted to return to Russia. Only a moran even compares actions on Iraq to those what happened in Crimea. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Things are about to go to hell in the Ukraine and everyone knows it. No amount of paid disinfo agents here will change that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Russia isn't sending in 1800 guys in civvies w/backpacks for a "peaceful" takeover. You mean Blackwater will pose as Russians? Or Russian speaking (Khazars) belonging to another intelligence agency? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12964189 Canada 03/28/2014 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Sun_dancer Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? I thought they (right sector) were storming the parliament the other night. I have lost track of the days. Family illness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45011575 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Things are about to go to hell in the Ukraine and everyone knows it. No amount of paid disinfo agents here will change that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Russia isn't sending in 1800 guys in civvies w/backpacks for a "peaceful" takeover. You mean Blackwater will pose as Russians? Or Russian speaking (Khazars) belonging to another intelligence agency? No blackwater are only there to protect those parliamentarians and regional leaders. they said so themselves. from whom i do not know, and why they don't trust their own security services i do not know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56183572 Ukraine 03/28/2014 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56183572 And am I said this by a guy who is afraid to show his proxy, even a fake one ?! As for some event in Kyiv, I have no doubt that Russian agents know better what is happening in Kyiv than Kyivans themselves. One doesn't have to be a agent to know what's going on in Kiev if you follow the stories on the ground. But you wouldn't know being there what's reality if it hit you in the head! Nothing awfull happens in Kyiv. A normal life, people are a little bit more emotional because of possible Russia's invasion, but nothing extraordinary. During February clashes the life in Kyiv except a small corner was aslo fully normal. One manifestation near Rada on 27th cannot change a general perception. Everything else is an ill imagination of Russian propagandons. Sure - if you say so. Obviously you're not even informed of what's going on where you live, except for the little bit of info you are being spoon fed by your idols or bosses. Bullshit ! I leave 2 km from Maydan and work 1 km from the other side, on Podil, and I don't need to watch Putistan TV to be informed. Unlike many others here Kyivans know well what is happening and very objective. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nothing awfull happens in Kyiv. A normal life, people are a little bit more emotional because of possible Russia's invasion, but nothing extraordinary. During February clashes the life in Kyiv except a small corner was aslo fully normal. One manifestation near Rada on 27th cannot change a general perception. Everything else is an ill imagination of Russian propagandons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56183572 If Russian news is propaganda it will all become apparent soon enough. But I do remember thinking Kiev was relatively safe - at least my neighborhood in Podil - until my car was broken into, twice in a month, with glass smashed. And when I was not driving my car at first I wondered what was all this conversation about corrupt police - but then I brought my car and it all became obvious. Sometimes the lack of bad news is just the luck of not being a victim. Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45011575 United Kingdom 03/28/2014 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 MPs propose law dictatorship police to arrest without evidence Kyiv, Today, 3:26 Project in the Council only registered, but have managed to cause a stir. Resonant bill has already managed to cause a stir In Parliament registered a draft law on preventive detention, which provides the possibility of preventive detention of people for 30 days, and in some cases - up to six months, according to a story TSN. 19.30 . In particular, the document provides that if during preventive detention signs of a crime will find it is only after that it will contribute to the Unified Register of pre-trial investigations. It turns out that the investigation may be six months to keep the citizen and simultaneously look for evidence of guilt or separatism, or petty hooliganism. Human rights after registration of the draft law have already dubbed it "the law of police dictatorship." Attorney Gennady Tokarev insists that the bill is absolutely ridiculous, because "first person arrested, and then find the evidence." [link to tsn.ua] |
The Årtist
User ID: 44124412 United States 03/28/2014 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Soraya Nelson: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 "...Russian officials are denying any build-up and are certainly not doing it publically. Plus, reporters are being refused permission to travel any closer than three miles to the border, which is likely where a lot of these military units are.... WERTHEIMER: Soraya, what about the Russians? How are they reacting to the troops' presence? NELSON: ....Nobody I spoke to favors an incursion into Ukraine...I interviewed one man next to the railway overpass where Russian armored vehicles were taken by train in the direction of the border. I can't identify him because he fears police retribution. UNIDENTIFIED MAN: (Speaking foreign language) NELSON: He says people were shocked when they saw the military vehicles and equipment passing by here. He describes them as belonging to elite Russian paratroopers. The Russian man adds there aren't normally military units in this area so the appearance of these vehicles and equipment raises the anxiety people are feeling over what many think or fear is a fascist takeover in neighboring Ukraine." [link to www.npr.org] inspectors used planes. try again Yes, and unless they shut off the internet anybody can use their cellphone to record troops and upload to the internet or their favorite news agency. NPR is often the most honest US news source when it comes to foreign policy, but when it comes to warmongering they tend to participate with the rest of the MSM (thanks largely to Republicans who repeatedly threatened to cut off their funding if they did not stop being somewhat honest). Which is hilarious because the Koch Brothers are large contributors of PBS and NPR. RAGE |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Sun_dancer Hell a month ago these same folks were throwing molotov cocktails and cobblestones at police armed with shields and batons, and beating these police with bats with nails sticking out, and that was "democracy" (which Ashton constantly warned Yanukovich not to interfere with!), but now when these folks have a peaceful rally, it is "intimidation"!! My God, you just can't make this stuff up! Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? [link to rt.com] Saw that yesterday - that part looks quite peaceful (a couple were carrying some "weapons" - a rock and small axe - but this was par for the course at Maidan). I do remember some video of the broken glass, but they never actually stormed the building. Recall during Maidan the "protestors" violently took control of a number of buildings, including government buildings, and would not release them, indeed they interfered with city administration by taking over city hall and refusing the workers to work. In any case, far far more peaceful than Maidan. Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56191733 Did you see any footage of what happened? They're getting scared - they're starting to turn on each other and their newly installed government is facing alot of heat. I skimmed a few hours of recordings, and looked at highlights on RT, it seemed like peaceful rallies yesterday and night before. Did I miss something? [link to rt.com] Saw that yesterday - that part looks quite peaceful (a couple were carrying some "weapons" - a rock and small axe - but this was par for the course at Maidan). I do remember some video of the broken glass, but they never actually stormed the building. Recall during Maidan the "protestors" violently took control of a number of buildings, including government buildings, and would not release them, indeed they interfered with city administration by taking over city hall and refusing the workers to work. In any case, far far more peaceful than Maidan. I pay more attention to what people say, why they were there, what are their demands. Heat is being turned up on the current Kiev guys in charge. They are forced to fire the current Interior Minister at this point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44670955 Switzerland 03/28/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56191733 It seems in fact that you are the Shill here - what the first poster said is the general consensus on the ground. You seem to maybe be in Kiev but definitely not ethnic Ukrainian or Russian. Perhaps working for an NGO? How about the people in Kiev right now, not too many hours ago you all had a little issue there didn't you? What about the mobs that are pissed now at the current leadership? The current Regime is facing some heat already aren't they? And am I said this by a guy who is afraid to show his proxy, even a fake one ?! As for some event in Kyiv, I have no doubt that Russian agents know better what is happening in Kyiv than Kyivans themselves. One doesn't have to be a agent to know what's going on in Kiev if you follow the stories on the ground. But you wouldn't know being there what's reality if it hit you in the head! Nothing awfull happens in Kyiv. A normal life, people are a little bit more emotional because of possible Russia's invasion, but nothing extraordinary. During February clashes the life in Kyiv except a small corner was aslo fully normal. One manifestation near Rada on 27th cannot change a general perception. Everything else is an ill imagination of Russian propagandons. oh it's just some neo nazis marching, no probs we're used to that and we love them so much in kyiv... |
Snuffielover
User ID: 55175457 Russia 03/28/2014 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Good evening again my Friends My Ukrianian friend will be coming for a visit by train shortly. I am worried how it will all go, considering a lot of people use Ukraine's current instability for personal benefits. When he arrives I'll be sure to talk over the situation in his home town of Kherson and write some more. Nothing like news from someone who lives there. But this whole "Let's deploy half of our total working tanks to the border of Ukraine!" mess could get out of hand really quickly. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |