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half of the German nation seems to be blind and has become a separatist movement of their own, the Putin-Versteher.
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The last time Germany allied itself with Russia, the two of them jointly started World War II by invading Poland. Two years later Germany attacked Russia, and three years after that Russia raped Germany.

Is any German actually stupid enough to go through that all over again?

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In addition to stipulations of non-aggression, the treaty included a secret protocol that divided territories of Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland into Nazi and Soviet "spheres of influence", anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939. After the Soviet-Japanese ceasefire agreement took effect on 16 September, Stalin ordered his own invasion of Poland on 17 September.[3] Part of southeastern (Karelia) and Salla region in Finland were annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bessarabia, Northern Bukovina and the Hertza region.
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[link to online.wsj.com]
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Reports of Russian artillery fire into Ukraine also were picked up by social media, said a U.S. official, but were confirmed with a "high level of confidence" by U.S. intelligence agencies. U.S. officials said the information on the Russian attacks was declassified Thursday.
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Russia has been firing across the border into Ukraine for "several days," according to a senior U.S. defense official. The U.S. has confirmed these strikes only within the last two days.

"This is clearly a military escalation," said Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.
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The U.S. doesn't have conclusive intelligence that Russia has fired antiaircraft rockets into Ukraine, although officials earlier this week said there was evidence a Ukrainian cargo plane was downed July 14 by a missile fired from Russia.
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Putin's inner circle sheds light on his "sinister, lonely life"

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479583

He is a self-confessed KGB agent--in other words, a psychpathic killer. What more do we need to know?

[link to en.wikiquote.org]
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There is no such thing as a former KGB man.

- [Putin] Responding to Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin, who called himself a former KGB officer.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


you didn't read the article huh?

But those close to him have revealed new details, like his morning routine: a late breakfast, then a solitary swim where assistants suggest "he gets much of Russia's thinking done."

In his office he shuns technology, instead relying on paper documents and Soviet War-era landlines.

"It paints a weird, miserable, sinister, lonely life in which Putin talks to very few people.


WOW! They claim he's sinister because he goes for a morning swim, uses paper documents and avoids cell phones. It even shows a picture of him holding a big fish that he caught.

that's sinister to freaks like you huh?

put22

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NATO Poland base may be prepared for blitz against Russia [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Let's shovel away the Soviet propaganda. Here's what the general actually said.

[link to www.express.co.uk]
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US air force General Philip Breedlove is reported to be ready to recommend preparing a Polish military base for the rapid deployment of Nato troops in the event of a crisis triggered by Moscow.
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Thanks...both sides seam to want this....both need bitched slapped
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Venezuela Planning Weapons Purchases From China, Russia: Maduro

Gearing up.
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
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"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
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World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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NATO Poland base may be prepared for blitz against Russia [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Let's shovel away the Soviet propaganda. Here's what the general actually said.

[link to www.express.co.uk]
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US air force General Philip Breedlove is reported to be ready to recommend preparing a Polish military base for the rapid deployment of Nato troops in the event of a crisis triggered by Moscow.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


He had nothing to do with 'triggering' a crisis.

the Nuland phone call proves that.

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NATO Poland base may be prepared for blitz against Russia [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Let's shovel away the Soviet propaganda. Here's what the general actually said.

[link to www.express.co.uk]
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US air force General Philip Breedlove is reported to be ready to recommend preparing a Polish military base for the rapid deployment of Nato troops in the event of a crisis triggered by Moscow.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Thanks...both sides seam to want this....both need bitched slapped
 Quoting: LOU512


Skeptic is one of the resident dumbasses. No matter how many times you remind him about Nulands phone call, it's still WAY over his head.

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yall got anymore of that false flag doom?
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[link to online.wsj.com]
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Reports of Russian artillery fire into Ukraine also were picked up by social media, said a U.S. official, but were confirmed with a "high level of confidence" by U.S. intelligence agencies. U.S. officials said the information on the Russian attacks was declassified Thursday.
...
Russia has been firing across the border into Ukraine for "several days," according to a senior U.S. defense official. The U.S. has confirmed these strikes only within the last two days.

"This is clearly a military escalation," said Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.
...
The U.S. doesn't have conclusive intelligence that Russia has fired antiaircraft rockets into Ukraine, although officials earlier this week said there was evidence a Ukrainian cargo plane was downed July 14 by a missile fired from Russia.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


debunked

their 'proof' is video from an exercise in May.

...


Idiot shill, that vid is a FAKE, it was recorded when the trees had no leaves, not in summer.

You shameless junta shills, always come with FAKES and FABRICATIONS and LIES after LIES after LIES. That's all you have.

And now OSCE is using this FAKES as proof? LOL what clowns they are.
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It never ceases to amaze me how deeply people can be in DENIAL of the facts. It must be a terrible affliction to be so disconnected from reality that one denies what is undeniable. Frankly, I think some of these pro-Russian psychophants wouldn't believe the Russians were shooting even if a Russian artillery shell flew right up their ass; they'd claim the Ukrainians fired it!

Seek psychiatric counseling!!!
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look at the trees dumbass

Peter Johnson @alcebaid · 1 min

@murderotica_ @MiddleEast_BRK as far as I understand he resigned for new elections to be declared. Counterintuitive but necessary step




ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 4 seg

Same location. Claims to show #massive MLRS attack from #Russia into #Ukraine.

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OMG. this video is from may exercises.

Was debunked two days ago.
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

rebel girl from Slavyansk says that ukrainian military planes shadowed civilian for whole MONTH before MH17 (english subtitles provided), the date of video is 18th JUNE

sure deserves a separate thread and a pin if not already posted?!
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Holy shit!! Great find!! The video was uploaded june 18th so no way it could be faked. She would have no reason to lie about it either. This is perhaps one of the most obvious false flags in history. Honestly, so many people are doubting the official USA/Ukraine story now, I'm not so sure the false flag will be effective anymore.
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Here you go. They talked about this last week on No Agenda. YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS


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NATO Poland base may be prepared for blitz against Russia [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Let's shovel away the Soviet propaganda. Here's what the general actually said.

[link to www.express.co.uk]
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US air force General Philip Breedlove is reported to be ready to recommend preparing a Polish military base for the rapid deployment of Nato troops in the event of a crisis triggered by Moscow.
---
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Thanks...both sides seam to want this....both need bitched slapped
 Quoting: LOU512


Skeptic is one of the resident dumbasses. No matter how many times you remind him about Nulands phone call, it's still WAY over his head.

:Hillary 1:
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I recommended him to change name on his avatar to Deceptic first but never listens. Sad story of severe case of self denial.
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Putin's inner circle sheds light on his "sinister, lonely life"

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479583

He is a self-confessed KGB agent--in other words, a psychpathic killer. What more do we need to know?

[link to en.wikiquote.org]
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There is no such thing as a former KGB man.

- [Putin] Responding to Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin, who called himself a former KGB officer.
---
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


you didn't read the article huh?

But those close to him have revealed new details, like his morning routine: a late breakfast, then a solitary swim where assistants suggest "he gets much of Russia's thinking done."

In his office he shuns technology, instead relying on paper documents and Soviet War-era landlines.

"It paints a weird, miserable, sinister, lonely life in which Putin talks to very few people.


WOW! They claim he's sinister because he goes for a morning swim, uses paper documents and avoids cell phones. it even shows him holding a picture of a huge pike that he caught.

that's sinister to freaks like you huh?

put22
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But its true - a person who has breakfast and then swims to think about stuff and then goes to an office and writes on paper without using a cell phone, computer or going on the internet - that's NOT normal, that means he's hiding something from the NSA, or paranoid (sarcasm)
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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Spy for a spy: Germany to monitor US, UK agents

Germany will monitor US and UK agents as part of its long discussed counter-espionage '360 degree view' plan, shifting its focus from China, Russia, and Iran, according to local media.

Two unnamed sources confirmed to Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper that Merkel's chief of staff, Peter Altmaier, gave a green light for the step after negotiations with interior and foreign ministers.

According to the paper, the '360 degree view' program gives Germany the ability to spy on American and British agents stationed in Germany, while shifting its focus away from previous targets which included Russian, Chinese, and Iranian agents.

The plan to monitor American and British agents was developed in response to the NSA spying revelations. However, the federal government hesitated to implement it, mainly for fear of conflict with the United States, the paper reported.

"Now we need a strong signal," the paper quoted a source familiar with the move as saying.

<50% [link to rt.com]
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Putin's inner circle sheds light on his "sinister, lonely life"

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479583




Well that ought to be a truthful source, even though, like all of the US MSM, it's run by the same people who've ascended to run the country and who have Putin in their bulls eye.

But never mind the details.
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If the MSM reports the sun has come up in the east i'll not believe it either.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 29 seg

#BREAKINGREPORTS THE RUSSIAN ARMY IS MOVING NUCLEAR CAPABLE OTR-21 #TOCHKA BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEMS TOWARDS #UKRAINE [link to twitter.com (secure)]


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siren2siren2siren2siren2siren2siren2
 Quoting: Luisport


Luis pls this rockets have 40-50 years old
i am sure that they dont have a nuke warhead inside.
CEP is awful
btw 2 day earlier posters say that Ukraine send to dontesk Frog7 and scarab 21 rockets so mayby this is misunderstanding by someon of old news

And payload of conventional warheads is small too 300-500 kg of HE frag or not when you compare this to grad salvo or beter smerch/tornado
another old weapon system going to utilization nothing more.

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Government of Ukraine Collapses [link to www.paulcraigroberts.org]
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abombabomb
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Rock Solid Politics &#8207;@BradCabana 33 min.
BREAKING RT @jerryliet RIGHT NOW: Huge blasts heard in #Donetsk #UKraine #Russia #UN #cdnpoli



Rock Solid Politics &#8207;@BradCabana 30 min.
RT @stefsiohan shelling not far away from city of #Donetsk 1am, never heard so loud from center. It almost doesn't stop #cdnpoli #Ukraine
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They sheling them for quite long time 120-122-152 grads and tornado so if this blast are huge must be somthing new
propably this FROG-7 or ss-21 scarab reported few days ago
sheling city with rockets which have CEP couting in football fields...precise attacks
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Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin
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His statement is downright hilarious. He has precisely copied the laughable deceitfulness of the old Soviet empire. The old Soviet rule: Everything Putin accuses others of doing is exactly what he himself is doing or plans to do.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
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Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said.
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lol He just invaded, occupied, and "annexed" part of Ukraine in violation of international law and agreement; and he is now fomenting an armed rebellion in two more Ukrainian regions, more recently aided by his own shots from across the border.

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I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country.
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To his credit, Putin admits that his country is not under any threat and hence has absolutely no excuse for its murderous behavior.

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We, on our part, strictly comply with the norms of international law...
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Sorry, Charlie. Invading, occupying, and "annexing" a Ukrainian province shreds international law.

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Undesirable regimes, countries that conduct an independent policy or that simply stand in the way of somebody’s interests get destabilised.
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This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

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Problems do exist, still it is not clear why they should be used to destabilise and break down a country – something we see rather frequently in various parts of the world.
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This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

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Frequently the forces used here are radical, nationalist, often even neo-fascist, fundamental forces, as was the case, unfortunately, in many post-Soviet states, and as is the case with Ukraine now.
---

Putin's statement very precisely and correctly describes the Russian/Chechen cutthroats who are terrorizing eastern Ukraine right now. They are most certainly neo-fascist. In fact, I would drop the neo- prefix: Igor Girkin is simply a fascist.

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People came to power through the use of armed force and by unconstitutional means.
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That certainly describes Girkin and his thugs.

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Regardless of what our foreign colleagues say, we can clearly see what is actually happening: groups of NATO troops are clearly being reinforced in Eastern European states, including in the Black and Baltic seas. And the scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing. In this regard, it is imperative to implement all planned measures to strength our nation’s defence capacity fully and on schedule, including, of course, in Crimea and Sevastopol, where essentially we need to fully recreate the military infrastructure.
---

Putin pretends not to see that it was precisely his own armed invasion of Ukraine that has forced NATO to consider moving its forces eastward in defense of those NATO members now openly threatened by Russian bombers and tanks.

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Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54532993

His statement is downright hilarious. He has precisely copied the laughable deceitfulness of the old Soviet empire. The old Soviet rule: Everything Putin accuses others of doing is exactly what he himself is doing or plans to do.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
---
Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said.
---

lol He just invaded, occupied, and "annexed" part of Ukraine in violation of international law and agreement; and he is now fomenting an armed rebellion in two more Ukrainian regions, more recently aided by his own shots from across the border.

---
I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country.
---

To his credit, Putin admits that his country is not under any threat and hence has absolutely no excuse for its murderous behavior.

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We, on our part, strictly comply with the norms of international law...
---

Sorry, Charlie. Invading, occupying, and "annexing" a Ukrainian province shreds international law.

---
Undesirable regimes, countries that conduct an independent policy or that simply stand in the way of somebody’s interests get destabilised.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Problems do exist, still it is not clear why they should be used to destabilise and break down a country – something we see rather frequently in various parts of the world.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Frequently the forces used here are radical, nationalist, often even neo-fascist, fundamental forces, as was the case, unfortunately, in many post-Soviet states, and as is the case with Ukraine now.
---

Putin's statement very precisely and correctly describes the Russian/Chechen cutthroats who are terrorizing eastern Ukraine right now. They are most certainly neo-fascist. In fact, I would drop the neo- prefix: Igor Girkin is simply a fascist.

---
People came to power through the use of armed force and by unconstitutional means.
---

That certainly describes Girkin and his thugs.

---
Regardless of what our foreign colleagues say, we can clearly see what is actually happening: groups of NATO troops are clearly being reinforced in Eastern European states, including in the Black and Baltic seas. And the scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing. In this regard, it is imperative to implement all planned measures to strength our nation’s defence capacity fully and on schedule, including, of course, in Crimea and Sevastopol, where essentially we need to fully recreate the military infrastructure.
---

Putin pretends not to see that it was precisely his own armed invasion of Ukraine that has forced NATO to consider moving its forces eastward in defense of those NATO members now openly threatened by Russian bombers and tanks.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


propoganda
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Putin's inner circle sheds light on his "sinister, lonely life"

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479583




Well that ought to be a truthful source, even though, like all of the US MSM, it's run by the same people who've ascended to run the country and who have Putin in their bulls eye.

But never mind the details.
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And that was such important information right now - really - that has everything to do with the fact he must be a psychopath and ordered to shoot down a civilian airplane with almost 300 people inside.

putin

The infantile jokes and speculations about his private life are just a desperate attempt at character assassination because they can't succeed at beating him politically or with arguments.
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He's beating himself.
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[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479583




Well that ought to be a truthful source, even though, like all of the US MSM, it's run by the same people who've ascended to run the country and who have Putin in their bulls eye.

But never mind the details.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36613458


And that was such important information right now - really - that has everything to do with the fact he must be a psychopath and ordered to shoot down a civilian airplane with almost 300 people inside.

putin

The infantile jokes and speculations about his private life are just a desperate attempt at character assassination because they can't succeed at beating him politically or with arguments.
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He's beating himself.
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Putin has had Ukraine under a State of Siege for 3 months now.
and soon he will invade with 100,000 men and 10,000 tanks!!!!!

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It seems like the powers want a war. All the arguing about who did what and where doesn't matter if the leaders just want a war.
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Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54532993

His statement is downright hilarious. He has precisely copied the laughable deceitfulness of the old Soviet empire. The old Soviet rule: Everything Putin accuses others of doing is exactly what he himself is doing or plans to do.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
---
Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said.
---

lol He just invaded, occupied, and "annexed" part of Ukraine in violation of international law and agreement; and he is now fomenting an armed rebellion in two more Ukrainian regions, more recently aided by his own shots from across the border.

---
I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country.
---

To his credit, Putin admits that his country is not under any threat and hence has absolutely no excuse for its murderous behavior.

---
We, on our part, strictly comply with the norms of international law...
---

Sorry, Charlie. Invading, occupying, and "annexing" a Ukrainian province shreds international law.

---
Undesirable regimes, countries that conduct an independent policy or that simply stand in the way of somebody’s interests get destabilised.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Problems do exist, still it is not clear why they should be used to destabilise and break down a country – something we see rather frequently in various parts of the world.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Frequently the forces used here are radical, nationalist, often even neo-fascist, fundamental forces, as was the case, unfortunately, in many post-Soviet states, and as is the case with Ukraine now.
---

Putin's statement very precisely and correctly describes the Russian/Chechen cutthroats who are terrorizing eastern Ukraine right now. They are most certainly neo-fascist. In fact, I would drop the neo- prefix: Igor Girkin is simply a fascist.

---
People came to power through the use of armed force and by unconstitutional means.
---

That certainly describes Girkin and his thugs.

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Regardless of what our foreign colleagues say, we can clearly see what is actually happening: groups of NATO troops are clearly being reinforced in Eastern European states, including in the Black and Baltic seas. And the scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing. In this regard, it is imperative to implement all planned measures to strength our nation’s defence capacity fully and on schedule, including, of course, in Crimea and Sevastopol, where essentially we need to fully recreate the military infrastructure.
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Putin pretends not to see that it was precisely his own armed invasion of Ukraine that has forced NATO to consider moving its forces eastward in defense of those NATO members now openly threatened by Russian bombers and tanks.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


bsflag doesn't even deserve a comment - incredible this poster putin
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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Putin's inner circle sheds light on his "sinister, lonely life"

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Well that ought to be a truthful source, even though, like all of the US MSM, it's run by the same people who've ascended to run the country and who have Putin in their bulls eye.

But never mind the details.
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And that was such important information right now - really - that has everything to do with the fact he must be a psychopath and ordered to shoot down a civilian airplane with almost 300 people inside.

putin

The infantile jokes and speculations about his private life are just a desperate attempt at character assassination because they can't succeed at beating him politically or with arguments.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

He's beating himself.
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I think its more like you are beating yourselves!
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin
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His statement is downright hilarious. He has precisely copied the laughable deceitfulness of the old Soviet empire. The old Soviet rule: Everything Putin accuses others of doing is exactly what he himself is doing or plans to do.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
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Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said.
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lol He just invaded, occupied, and "annexed" part of Ukraine in violation of international law and agreement; and he is now fomenting an armed rebellion in two more Ukrainian regions, more recently aided by his own shots from across the border.

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I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country.
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To his credit, Putin admits that his country is not under any threat and hence has absolutely no excuse for its murderous behavior.

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We, on our part, strictly comply with the norms of international law...
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Sorry, Charlie. Invading, occupying, and "annexing" a Ukrainian province shreds international law.

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Undesirable regimes, countries that conduct an independent policy or that simply stand in the way of somebody’s interests get destabilised.
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This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

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Problems do exist, still it is not clear why they should be used to destabilise and break down a country – something we see rather frequently in various parts of the world.
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This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

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Frequently the forces used here are radical, nationalist, often even neo-fascist, fundamental forces, as was the case, unfortunately, in many post-Soviet states, and as is the case with Ukraine now.
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Putin's statement very precisely and correctly describes the Russian/Chechen cutthroats who are terrorizing eastern Ukraine right now. They are most certainly neo-fascist. In fact, I would drop the neo- prefix: Igor Girkin is simply a fascist.

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People came to power through the use of armed force and by unconstitutional means.
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That certainly describes Girkin and his thugs.

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Regardless of what our foreign colleagues say, we can clearly see what is actually happening: groups of NATO troops are clearly being reinforced in Eastern European states, including in the Black and Baltic seas. And the scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing. In this regard, it is imperative to implement all planned measures to strength our nation’s defence capacity fully and on schedule, including, of course, in Crimea and Sevastopol, where essentially we need to fully recreate the military infrastructure.
---

Putin pretends not to see that it was precisely his own armed invasion of Ukraine that has forced NATO to consider moving its forces eastward in defense of those NATO members now openly threatened by Russian bombers and tanks.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


bsflag doesn't even deserve a comment - incredible this poster putin
 Quoting: Bes Maat

Oh it deserves a response, I think intellectually you are unable to furnish one.
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confirmed. the netherlands are sending as soons as this weekend commando forces to ukraine and one of their objectives is to apprehend colonel igor girkin. [link to www.telegraaf.nl]
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Russian Sovereignty Under Attack- Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54532993

His statement is downright hilarious. He has precisely copied the laughable deceitfulness of the old Soviet empire. The old Soviet rule: Everything Putin accuses others of doing is exactly what he himself is doing or plans to do.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
---
Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said.
---

lol He just invaded, occupied, and "annexed" part of Ukraine in violation of international law and agreement; and he is now fomenting an armed rebellion in two more Ukrainian regions, more recently aided by his own shots from across the border.

---
I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country.
---

To his credit, Putin admits that his country is not under any threat and hence has absolutely no excuse for its murderous behavior.

---
We, on our part, strictly comply with the norms of international law...
---

Sorry, Charlie. Invading, occupying, and "annexing" a Ukrainian province shreds international law.

---
Undesirable regimes, countries that conduct an independent policy or that simply stand in the way of somebody’s interests get destabilised.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Problems do exist, still it is not clear why they should be used to destabilise and break down a country – something we see rather frequently in various parts of the world.
---

This exactly describes Putin's crimes against Ukraine.

---
Frequently the forces used here are radical, nationalist, often even neo-fascist, fundamental forces, as was the case, unfortunately, in many post-Soviet states, and as is the case with Ukraine now.
---

Putin's statement very precisely and correctly describes the Russian/Chechen cutthroats who are terrorizing eastern Ukraine right now. They are most certainly neo-fascist. In fact, I would drop the neo- prefix: Igor Girkin is simply a fascist.

---
People came to power through the use of armed force and by unconstitutional means.
---

That certainly describes Girkin and his thugs.

---
Regardless of what our foreign colleagues say, we can clearly see what is actually happening: groups of NATO troops are clearly being reinforced in Eastern European states, including in the Black and Baltic seas. And the scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing. In this regard, it is imperative to implement all planned measures to strength our nation’s defence capacity fully and on schedule, including, of course, in Crimea and Sevastopol, where essentially we need to fully recreate the military infrastructure.
---

Putin pretends not to see that it was precisely his own armed invasion of Ukraine that has forced NATO to consider moving its forces eastward in defense of those NATO members now openly threatened by Russian bombers and tanks.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


bsflag doesn't even deserve a comment - incredible this poster putin
 Quoting: Bes Maat

Oh it deserves a response, I think intellectually you are unable to furnish one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59061079


Intellectually I am very capable to make a response, but I have done that from the start and its just too repeatative. I have more luck talking to a wall than to people like you. You state things that are absolutely against International Law from the very beginning of this conflict. I just want to spare myself the time and energy.
Conflict started with violation of international agreements by the US and EU by the way, but that's too difficult for you guys to understand.

Keep going. Its amusing actually how you dig your hole deeper and deeper every day.

Last Edited by Bes Maat on 07/24/2014 11:48 PM
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confirmed. the netherlands are sending as soons as this weekend commando forces to ukraine and one of their objectives is to apprehend colonel igor girkin. [link to www.telegraaf.nl]
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Well now that the secrets out, goodluck.
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