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Lol, they totally spin what he said!

[link to itar-tass.com]

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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


ITAR-TASS and its various incarnations has been the official mouthpiece and propaganda outlet for the Soviets and now Russians since the Bolnsheviks.

The Telegragh Agency of Soviet Socialists is completely state funded and the most successful propaganda tool ever devised. New York Times is NOT wholly funded by the government.
See zod, TASS and the Kremlin have an incestuous relationship and that is unhealthy, corrosive, it's a malignancy. Kremlin pays TASS for its headlines and articles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


What's about an "independant" press when the "Government" is not? To think that puppet theatre is running a country is ridiculous. The Gov and msm are tools.
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Once again, TASS RT 100% of their annual operating budget comes from the Russian national budget-the Russian government. The level of independence in the above circumstance is slight to nil.
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The annual budget of NRK, the Norwegian state broadcaster is considerably larger than RT's (we are 5 million people).

The financing is done as follows:
IF you own a tv, you have to pay the equivalent of USD 420 annually to NRK. If you don't, you will get heavily fined. If you don't pay the fine, they will go for your possessions, whatever they are, house, cars, whatever.

If you fight it, the original amount will steadily rise with interests etc. to a very high amount, like USD 4000,- within appr. two years, and your personal credit rating will hit bottom. No loans from any bank, for whatever purpose.

Even if you never watch this channel, or live in an area where you cannot receive any TV signal, you have to pay, or else.

Take Care
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Holy shit, in Makeevka!


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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Those are The Russian 203mm field gun!

That can hit about 40km with the Extended Range Full Bore shells, and about 50km with a base bleed round!

Was that the NAF or Ukies?

 Quoting: PIR


Well it's NAF territory and there are no Ukie markings.

Damn, though, those are BIG mothers....
 Quoting: Kanadski


Play this song and watch that video again...

Go NAF

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>>The independence of your government is nil<<

LOL... butthurt much huh, Russia is VERY VERY VERY

Independent.

Get used to it.
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It would be impolite if I didn't congratulate you on completing your secondary education. Congratulations on passing your exams today.
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>>The independence of your government is nil<<

LOL... butthurt much huh, Russia is VERY VERY VERY

Independent.

Get used to it.
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It's one of the few that are, yes. That above I told the Lady from another country. And I have no butthurt, why should I? I'm no Ukie, I'm not getting asskicked.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Ukraine: Right Sector and Azov Battalion hold torch-lit march through Odessa


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Published on Jan 29, 2015

Around 500 members of Right Sector, Azov Battalion and Svoboda held a torchlight march to commemorate the "heroes of the Battle of Kruty" in Odessa, Thursday.
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Published: September 6, 2010

George Soros, the billionaire investor and philanthropist, plans to announce on Tuesday that he is giving $100 million to Human Rights Watch to expand the organization’s work globally.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

HRW anti-Russian propaganda

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 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Well, he clearly has a reason to hate SU and Russia. After all, it was Red Army who liberated the Budapest Ghetto 70 years ago...
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
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"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

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Threat from #Russia: #Poland calls civilians to weapons training @N24 #N24 #News [link to l.n24.de]

german source.

Wow.
Steps toward millitarisation of civil society is the ultimate move.
Rest of europe needs that, too.
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Ukraine: Right Sector and Azov Battalion hold torch-lit march through Odessa


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Published on Jan 29, 2015

Around 500 members of Right Sector, Azov Battalion and Svoboda held a torchlight march to commemorate the "heroes of the Battle of Kruty" in Odessa, Thursday.
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:No Nazis:
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If Uglegorsk is a battlefield for now, so encirclement of Debaltsevo is just another lie of zakharchenko scumbag.

Never believe terroRussian media!burnit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67501339


I see you don't know how to read a map....

Taking Uglegorsk cuts the southwest side of the pocket, and forces the Junta defense back into Debaltseve itself. Just open fields and a small stream between Uglegorsk and the sdge of Debaltseve.

It also tremendously cuts the pressure on Gorlivka, taking direct fire off of the main highway, and puts Rebel armor just 8k away from the main highway crossroads in Debalt.
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Obummer presents the most Colossal Military spending bill in American History (looks like Porky gets his 3bn and then some).
[link to www.presstv.ir]
"The new spending blueprint would increase federal caps on military spending by $35 billion, hitting a base* Pentagon budget of $534 billion for 2016, the largest in American history.
Obama will also ask** for nearly $51 billion in funding for the war in Afghanistan as well as the military campaign against the ISIL terrorist group in Iraq and Syria."

*just a basic, then
**over and above budget proposal

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Marching in the streets of Odessa, the day after #Auschwitz70

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Obummer presents the most Colossal Military spending bill in American History (looks like Porky gets his 3bn and then some).
[link to www.presstv.ir]
"The new spending blueprint would increase federal caps on military spending by $35 billion, hitting a base Pentagon budget of $534 billion for 2016, the largest in American history.
Obama will also ask* for nearly $51 billion in funding for the war in Afghanistan as well as the military campaign against the ISIL terrorist group in Iraq and Syria."

*over and above budget proposal
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clappa


We need to liberate russia.
Not a cheap ride.
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ITAR-TASS and its various incarnations has been the official mouthpiece and propaganda outlet for the Soviets and now Russians since the Bolnsheviks.

The Telegragh Agency of Soviet Socialists is completely state funded and the most successful propaganda tool ever devised. New York Times is NOT wholly funded by the government.
See zod, TASS and the Kremlin have an incestuous relationship and that is unhealthy, corrosive, it's a malignancy. Kremlin pays TASS for its headlines and articles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


What's about an "independant" press when the "Government" is not? To think that puppet theatre is running a country is ridiculous. The Gov and msm are tools.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Once again, TASS RT 100% of their annual operating budget comes from the Russian national budget-the Russian government. The level of independence in the above circumstance is slight to nil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


The annual budget of NRK, the Norwegian state broadcaster is considerably larger than RT's (we are 5 million people).

The financing is done as follows:
IF you own a tv, you have to pay the equivalent of USD 420 annually to NRK. If you don't, you will get heavily fined. If you don't pay the fine, they will go for your possessions, whatever they are, house, cars, whatever.

If you fight it, the original amount will steadily rise with interests etc. to a very high amount, like USD 4000,- within appr. two years, and your personal credit rating will hit bottom. No loans from any bank, for whatever purpose.

Even if you never watch this channel, or live in an area where you cannot receive any TV signal, you have to pay, or else.

Take Care
Kent
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In Germany since 2013 every household must pay if they have TV or not. >200 € per year.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Dr. Pavel Slavenko @DrPavelSlavenko 4h

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Debaltsevo is the new Auschwitz only now the russians are the cappos.
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What's about an "independant" press when the "Government" is not? To think that puppet theatre is running a country is ridiculous. The Gov and msm are tools.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Once again, TASS RT 100% of their annual operating budget comes from the Russian national budget-the Russian government. The level of independence in the above circumstance is slight to nil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


The annual budget of NRK, the Norwegian state broadcaster is considerably larger than RT's (we are 5 million people).

The financing is done as follows:
IF you own a tv, you have to pay the equivalent of USD 420 annually to NRK. If you don't, you will get heavily fined. If you don't pay the fine, they will go for your possessions, whatever they are, house, cars, whatever.

If you fight it, the original amount will steadily rise with interests etc. to a very high amount, like USD 4000,- within appr. two years, and your personal credit rating will hit bottom. No loans from any bank, for whatever purpose.

Even if you never watch this channel, or live in an area where you cannot receive any TV signal, you have to pay, or else.

Take Care
Kent
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In Germany since 2013 every household must pay if they have TV or not. >200 € per year.
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It should be 2000+.
Most people in germany using a TV are unemloyed people.
Doing nothing has to become more costly.
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Terrorists are being kicked of from Uglegorsk, their tanks was destroyed by Ukrainian forces. Since there's no encirclement of Debaltsevo, Ukrainian army is accumulating force to enter Horlovka.
putin
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Oh brother... Donetsk airport all over again.
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Still in hands of "cyborgs" I guess...

chuckle
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Got to be true...
The Unicorn on Ukraine Today said so...
And Euromaidan PR, too!
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Threat from #Russia: #Poland calls civilians to weapons training @N24 #N24 #News [link to l.n24.de]

german source.

Wow.
Steps toward millitarisation of civil society is the ultimate move.
Rest of europe needs that, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67506502


Yep, some military training would be good. And a Kalashnikov with loads of ammo at home.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Obummer presents the most Colossal Military spending bill in American History (looks like Porky gets his 3bn and then some).
[link to www.presstv.ir]
"The new spending blueprint would increase federal caps on military spending by $35 billion, hitting a base Pentagon budget of $534 billion for 2016, the largest in American history.
Obama will also ask* for nearly $51 billion in funding for the war in Afghanistan as well as the military campaign against the ISIL terrorist group in Iraq and Syria."

*over and above budget proposal
 Quoting: DawaSatso


clappa


We need to liberate russia.
Not a cheap ride.
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Oh my, are you on fire tonite OP? How fucking clever :/
dead3
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Dr. Pavel Slavenko @DrPavelSlavenko 4h

Marching in the streets of Odessa, the day after #Auschwitz70

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Debaltsevo is the new Auschwitz only now the russians are the cappos.
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your flag says Germany.

lemme guess

you agree with Tpotleoz, Blueyes:, and KipKat that everything that is commonly "known" about Nazis is wrong.

amirite?
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Threat from #Russia: #Poland calls civilians to weapons training @N24 #N24 #News [link to l.n24.de]

german source.

Wow.
Steps toward millitarisation of civil society is the ultimate move.
Rest of europe needs that, too.
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there's no such thing as europe, so take a break from GLP go get some exercice marching on with your granddady's uniform
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>>The independence of your government is nil<<

LOL... butthurt much huh, Russia is VERY VERY VERY

Independent.

Get used to it.
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


Well, that's the main reason of all this russophobia.
Starikov divided sovereignty onto 5 parts (don't know if he borrowed it from somewhere else):
1. International recognition, flag, anthem, coat of arms.
2. Diplomatical sovereignty - ability to have independent international policy.
3. Military sovereignty - ability to secure borders.
4. Economical sovereignty - ability to support economy.
5. Cultural sovereignty.
During 90s Russia lost everything excluding the first one.
Diplomatical sovereignty was finally restored year and a half ago - when Russia strongly and effectively opposed invasion to Syria.
Military sovereignty is in the progress of restoration since second Putin's term. Now the aremy is reformed and in progress of rearming.
Economical sovereignty is almost non-existant thing in modern world, but Russia is cooperating with BRICS and other organizations to create some alternatives at least.
Cultural sovereignty too was in the progress of restoration and made a huge progress during previous year due to Crimean reunification.

Speaking of EU, I must point out that in these terms there is a much sadder picture. Sure, EU countries are recognized as states, but the rest... Diplomatical soverenignty was gven to European Commission, military one - to NATO, economical - to the same European Commission (if not to Germany directly). Cultural sovereignty is eroding under influence of pseudo-multiculturalism theory that is already cnsidered dead even by its authors.
Sad picture indeed. It somewhat reminds of last decades of Roman Empire...
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
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Dr. Pavel Slavenko @DrPavelSlavenko 4h

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 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Debaltsevo is the new Auschwitz only now the russians are the cappos.
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your flag says Germany.

lemme guess

you agree with Tpotleoz, Blueyes:, and KipKat that everything that is commonly "known" about Nazis is wrong.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


he studied WW2 history along with yatseunuch probably in lituania as a gladio scholar
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What's about an "independant" press when the "Government" is not? To think that puppet theatre is running a country is ridiculous. The Gov and msm are tools.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Once again, TASS RT 100% of their annual operating budget comes from the Russian national budget-the Russian government. The level of independence in the above circumstance is slight to nil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


The annual budget of NRK, the Norwegian state broadcaster is considerably larger than RT's (we are 5 million people).

The financing is done as follows:
IF you own a tv, you have to pay the equivalent of USD 420 annually to NRK. If you don't, you will get heavily fined. If you don't pay the fine, they will go for your possessions, whatever they are, house, cars, whatever.

If you fight it, the original amount will steadily rise with interests etc. to a very high amount, like USD 4000,- within appr. two years, and your personal credit rating will hit bottom. No loans from any bank, for whatever purpose.

Even if you never watch this channel, or live in an area where you cannot receive any TV signal, you have to pay, or else.

Take Care
Kent
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In Germany since 2013 every household must pay if they have TV or not. >200 € per year.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Didn't know that. Even worse. Luckily I do not own a TV anymore 10+ years without.
So the systems adjusts and equalizes in Europe even without any conciseness on the individual politicians level.
Makes sense actually

Take Care
Kent
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Once again, TASS RT 100% of their annual operating budget comes from the Russian national budget-the Russian government. The level of independence in the above circumstance is slight to nil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54407015


The annual budget of NRK, the Norwegian state broadcaster is considerably larger than RT's (we are 5 million people).

The financing is done as follows:
IF you own a tv, you have to pay the equivalent of USD 420 annually to NRK. If you don't, you will get heavily fined. If you don't pay the fine, they will go for your possessions, whatever they are, house, cars, whatever.

If you fight it, the original amount will steadily rise with interests etc. to a very high amount, like USD 4000,- within appr. two years, and your personal credit rating will hit bottom. No loans from any bank, for whatever purpose.

Even if you never watch this channel, or live in an area where you cannot receive any TV signal, you have to pay, or else.

Take Care
Kent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67456275


In Germany since 2013 every household must pay if they have TV or not. >200 € per year.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


It should be 2000+.
Most people in germany using a TV are unemloyed people.
Doing nothing has to become more costly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67506502


And your crappy healthcare should be >100,000$ annually, for children >200,000$.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Holy shit, in Makeevka!


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That are Ukie tanks?
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Nope, that are Novorossiyan 2S7 Pion, 203mm howitzers, one of the beggest...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Massive shells, 23-27 mile (38-43Km) range, depending on winds.
5 minute setup, 3 minute takedown.
Can fire 2 shells and scoot before the first shell ever hits the target.
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>>The independence of your government is nil<<

LOL... butthurt much huh, Russia is VERY VERY VERY

Independent.

Get used to it.
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


Well, that's the main reason of all this russophobia.
Starikov divided sovereignty onto 5 parts (don't know if he borrowed it from somewhere else):
1. International recognition, flag, anthem, coat of arms.
2. Diplomatical sovereignty - ability to have independent international policy.
3. Military sovereignty - ability to secure borders.
4. Economical sovereignty - ability to support economy.
5. Cultural sovereignty.
During 90s Russia lost everything excluding the first one.
Diplomatical sovereignty was finally restored year and a half ago - when Russia strongly and effectively opposed invasion to Syria.
Military sovereignty is in the progress of restoration since second Putin's term. Now the aremy is reformed and in progress of rearming.
Economical sovereignty is almost non-existant thing in modern world, but Russia is cooperating with BRICS and other organizations to create some alternatives at least.
Cultural sovereignty too was in the progress of restoration and made a huge progress during previous year due to Crimean reunification.

Speaking of EU, I must point out that in these terms there is a much sadder picture. Sure, EU countries are recognized as states, but the rest... Diplomatical soverenignty was gven to European Commission, military one - to NATO, economical - to the same European Commission (if not to Germany directly). Cultural sovereignty is eroding under influence of pseudo-multiculturalism theory that is already cnsidered dead even by its authors.
Sad picture indeed. It somewhat reminds of last decades of Roman Empire...
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Thank you for all your points here, and yes that is indeed sad but true.

Take Care
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Dr. Pavel Slavenko @DrPavelSlavenko 4h

Marching in the streets of Odessa, the day after #Auschwitz70

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Debaltsevo is the new Auschwitz only now the russians are the cappos.
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your flag says Germany.

lemme guess

you agree with Tpotleoz, Blueyes:, and KipKat that everything that is commonly "known" about Nazis is wrong.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


he studied WW2 history along with yatseunuch probably in lituania as a gladio scholar
 Quoting: attila


TBH....

...I do not consider the ukraine conflict a threat.
If russia crosses the line it will be stopped.

However there is a "REAL" threat brewing in syria.
The IS is exponentially growing in numbers and very soon(after egypt, gaza, jordan) are aquired this movement will start heading north and north east.

None of us is prepared what this enemy is about to bring to our doorsteps.

Forget ukraine.
This problem will soon be solved by either dividing it along the 1939 mr pact borders OR declare it neutral territory in general.

The otherones however will most certainly bring war to everyone in europe, russia and china.
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Dr. Pavel Slavenko @DrPavelSlavenko 4h

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 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Debaltsevo is the new Auschwitz only now the russians are the cappos.
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your flag says Germany.

lemme guess

you agree with Tpotleoz, Blueyes:, and KipKat that everything that is commonly "known" about Nazis is wrong.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


he studied WW2 history along with yatseunuch probably in lituania as a gladio scholar
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67506502 is a yank.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Paul Payer @actionScript3 2h

‘#NATO caught with their hand in bloody cooking jar in #Ukraine’ – @EngdahlFW by Radio Sputnik via #soundcloud [link to soundcloud.com (secure)]





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