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Lavrov has ADMITTED that they put extra troops on the border because of the situation in Ukraine.
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Well, he would be remiss not to increase the guard at his own border when the Ukrainians have openly sent troops to the Donbas Oblasts (adjoining Russia).
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wrong choice of word, sentiment...action would be more apt, and I was referring to my own best kept to myself sentiments :-)


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BREAKING!!! US unilaterally demands that Russia withdraw its forces from the Ukrainian border

@usosce In addition to Geneva steps, we again call on #Russia to return forces along #Ukraine border to pre-crisis locations
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Are we seriously starting that again? After the OSCE found no troops amassing? Or do they mean the Russians should close their bases they have in their own country?

chuckle It's actually amusing at this point.
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OSCE did find Russian Troops there.

OSCE were invited in by Kiev to confirm unusual military activity which they Kiev claimed were Russian Special Forces. OSCE wont claim they found what they were looking for, only that after their own observations, they couldnt discount Kiev's concerns. Here's OSCE's absurdly-cautiously worded statement:

"During the three visits, thirty OSCE pS sent 56 unarmed military and civilian personnel to Ukraine. The group attempted to visit Crimea several times, but was unable to move beyond checkpoints at the administrative border, however, based on the observations made of the military activity the group stated that it is not able to dispel military concerns in Crimea."
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BREAKING!!! US unilaterally demands that Russia withdraw its forces from the Ukrainian border

@usosce In addition to Geneva steps, we again call on #Russia to return forces along #Ukraine border to pre-crisis locations
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Are we seriously starting that again? After the OSCE found no troops amassing? Or do they mean the Russians should close their bases they have in their own country?

chuckle It's actually amusing at this point.
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Lavrov has ADMITTED that they put extra troops on the border because of the situation in Ukraine.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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They are doing exercises, and they are not there in a "aggressive" mode, they will only respond if attacked and they are staying in Russia, you want to dictate what Russia does in their own country with their military and what exercises they can conduct? How much NATO force posture and exercises does Russia have to endure on their borders? Please read the article carefully again and what Lavrov said. I stand by my sentiments that this is all nothing but silly rhetoric which we hear since end of February now, so pretty much since 2 months.

Read OSCE reports please, very detailed about what is happening. No aggressive stance or posturing of Russian troops on the Ukraine borders whatsoever. Or you know more than the experts?

How dare Russians would say they are ready to defend themselves if they are being attacked. Their neighboring country is in turmoil, I think any other Nation would do the same. Lets be reasonable and stay cool for a second ok? cool2
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Chuck Hagel said as many as 10,000 troops could be deployed to Poland.

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wrong choice of word, sentiment...action would be more apt, and I was referring to my own best kept to myself sentiments :-)
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BREAKING!!! US unilaterally demands that Russia withdraw its forces from the Ukrainian border

@usosce In addition to Geneva steps, we again call on #Russia to return forces along #Ukraine border to pre-crisis locations
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Are we seriously starting that again? After the OSCE found no troops amassing? Or do they mean the Russians should close their bases they have in their own country?

chuckle It's actually amusing at this point.
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OSCE did find Russian Troops there.

OSCE were invited in by Kiev to confirm unusual military activity which they Kiev claimed were Russian Special Forces. OSCE wont claim they found what they were looking for, only that after their own observations, they couldnt discount Kiev's concerns. Here's OSCE's absurdly-cautiously worded statement:

"During the three visits, thirty OSCE pS sent 56 unarmed military and civilian personnel to Ukraine. The group attempted to visit Crimea several times, but was unable to move beyond checkpoints at the administrative border, however, based on the observations made of the military activity the group stated that it is not able to dispel military concerns in Crimea."
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Ahem - Crimea? You DO know Russia has the Black Sea Fleet there right? Of course there's troops on the bases there, they're allowed 25,000. Do you want to discuss again what we discussed 2 months ago? You keep going around in a circle. And right now, Crimea is Russia and we are talking about East UA. It's getting a bit boring.
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BREAKING!!! US unilaterally demands that Russia withdraw its forces from the Ukrainian border

@usosce In addition to Geneva steps, we again call on #Russia to return forces along #Ukraine border to pre-crisis locations
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Are we seriously starting that again? After the OSCE found no troops amassing? Or do they mean the Russians should close their bases they have in their own country?

chuckle It's actually amusing at this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57212147


OSCE did find Russian Troops there.

OSCE were invited in by Kiev to confirm unusual military activity which they Kiev claimed were Russian Special Forces. OSCE wont claim they found what they were looking for, only that after their own observations, they couldnt discount Kiev's concerns. Here's OSCE's absurdly-cautiously worded statement:

"During the three visits, thirty OSCE pS sent 56 unarmed military and civilian personnel to Ukraine. The group attempted to visit Crimea several times, but was unable to move beyond checkpoints at the administrative border, however, based on the observations made of the military activity the group stated that it is not able to dispel military concerns in Crimea."
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Ahem - Crimea? You DO know Russia has the Black Sea Fleet there right? Of course there's troops on the bases there, they're allowed 25,000. Do you want to discuss again what we discussed 2 months ago? You keep going around in a circle. And right now, Crimea is Russia and we are talking about East UA. It's getting a bit boring.
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OSCE's experienced military observers had probably forgotten that Russia has a Black Sea Fleet...good catch!
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OSCE did find Russian Troops there.

OSCE were invited in by Kiev to confirm unusual military activity which they Kiev claimed were Russian Special Forces. OSCE wont claim they found what they were looking for, only that after their own observations, they couldnt discount Kiev's concerns. Here's OSCE's absurdly-cautiously worded statement:

"During the three visits, thirty OSCE pS sent 56 unarmed military and civilian personnel to Ukraine. The group attempted to visit Crimea several times, but was unable to move beyond checkpoints at the administrative border, however, based on the observations made of the military activity the group stated that it is not able to dispel military concerns in Crimea."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56035485


Ahem - Crimea? You DO know Russia has the Black Sea Fleet there right? Of course there's troops on the bases there, they're allowed 25,000. Do you want to discuss again what we discussed 2 months ago? You keep going around in a circle. And right now, Crimea is Russia and we are talking about East UA. It's getting a bit boring.
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OSCE's experienced military observers had probably forgotten that Russia has a Black Sea Fleet...good catch!
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Not a catch at all. WE ALL KNOW THIS information just shills keep us going in circles...
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Or so they try

Twitter is really in an infinite loop of recycling tweets from weeks ago it seems.
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Any word on the status of Simon Ortovsky?
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@ac6624. That's pretty strong sentiments there.
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and it's true.....99.9% of us on this forum only have ONE enemy, some haven't realized that yet and will carry on fighting each other
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Which is exactly what TPTB want...us fighting each other. I haven't posted on this thread for quite some time. I get so disheartened by the personal attacks on here. I see what is really happening, so many cannot. I agree 100% with you...THEY can go eff themselves!
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Russian-Backed Separatists Continue to Detain 16 Civilians in Slavyansk


Today the Kyiv Post reports that a total of 16 people are missing, including journalists Serhiy Lefter and Yevhen Hapych, Irma Krat (who is not missing but is being held by the same separatists who are holding Simon Ostrovsky), and several politicians and residents of Slavyansk, including the mayor and the police chief -- all of these are reportedly being held by the Russian-backed gunmen.


[link to pressimus.com] …
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Ukraine accuses Russians in deputy’s murder

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused the so-called “Strilka” group that is active in the Donetsk Oblast and a citizen of the Russian Federation, Colonel Igor Bezler, of involvement in the murder of the deputy of the of the Horlivka City Council Volodymyr Rybak, the SUB reports on its website, April 23, 2014.

According to the SUB, it has been determined that on Aril 17, Bezler (alias Bez) ordered the head of the self-proclaimed militia of the town of Horlivka to “neutralize” Volodymyr Rybak, who had tried to raise the Ukrainian national flag on the Horlivka City Council building.

[link to euromaidanpr.com]
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Terrorists, many of which are from Russia and Crimea. The long list of terrorism from these terrorsists against my nation grows by the hour.

Lavrov yesterday said if we use force against their terrorists who are terrorizing us, that Russia will send in their military to 'protect' their terrorists.

Russia is a nation gone completely stark raving mad. They will not get away with this in 2014. Maybe before the internet, before people could learn the truth, but not now. Russia will not get away with what they are doing to us. They will burn.
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@ac6624. That's pretty strong sentiments there.
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and it's true.....99.9% of us on this forum only have ONE enemy, some haven't realized that yet and will carry on fighting each other
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Which is exactly what TPTB want...us fighting each other. I haven't posted on this thread for quite some time. I get so disheartened by the personal attacks on here. I see what is really happening, so many cannot. I agree 100% with you...THEY can go eff themselves!
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Good for you, it's a bad soap opera isn't it? like a bad movie you know how it ends, heartening to know there are more and more aware of the truth
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BREAKING!!! US unilaterally demands that Russia withdraw its forces from the Ukrainian border

@usosce In addition to Geneva steps, we again call on #Russia to return forces along #Ukraine border to pre-crisis locations
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Are we seriously starting that again? After the OSCE found no troops amassing? Or do they mean the Russians should close their bases they have in their own country?

chuckle It's actually amusing at this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57212147


Lavrov has ADMITTED that they put extra troops on the border because of the situation in Ukraine.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34914226


They are doing exercises, and they are not there in a "aggressive" mode, they will only respond if attacked and they are staying in Russia, you want to dictate what Russia does in their own country with their military and what exercises they can conduct? How much NATO force posture and exercises does Russia have to endure on their borders? Please read the article carefully again and what Lavrov said. I stand by my sentiments that this is all nothing but silly rhetoric which we hear since end of February now, so pretty much since 2 months.

Read OSCE reports please, very detailed about what is happening. No aggressive stance or posturing of Russian troops on the Ukraine borders whatsoever. Or you know more than the experts?

How dare Russians would say they are ready to defend themselves if they are being attacked. Their neighboring country is in turmoil, I think any other Nation would do the same. Lets be reasonable and stay cool for a second ok? cool2
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hf
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wrong choice of word, sentiment...action would be more apt, and I was referring to my own best kept to myself sentiments :-)
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hf
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Thank you. I've been awake some time, just trying to put the pieces together in terms of understanding fully how shit works, we'll never be privy to the full facts. However some wise and wonderful awake people exist who wish to help us out. I take my cue from the awakened or at least try. The depression of coming awake stopped many years ago, I'm here to enjoy he show as George Carlin use to say. Peace & Love Brother.

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@ac6624. That's pretty strong sentiments there.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


and it's true.....99.9% of us on this forum only have ONE enemy, some haven't realized that yet and will carry on fighting each other
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39626624


Which is exactly what TPTB want...us fighting each other. I haven't posted on this thread for quite some time. I get so disheartened by the personal attacks on here. I see what is really happening, so many cannot. I agree 100% with you...THEY can go eff themselves!
 Quoting: katballoo


Good for you, it's a bad soap opera isn't it? like a bad movie you know how it ends, heartening to know there are more and more aware of the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39626624


It certainly is. It's a long drawn out nightmare that I can't wake up from. They are killing us with GMO's, Big Pharma, and chemtrails. I don't see that happening over there. THAT tells me a lot. We, the people, need to stick together. hf
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Russian-Backed Separatists Continue to Detain 16 Civilians in Slavyansk


Today the Kyiv Post reports that a total of 16 people are missing, including journalists Serhiy Lefter and Yevhen Hapych, Irma Krat (who is not missing but is being held by the same separatists who are holding Simon Ostrovsky), and several politicians and residents of Slavyansk, including the mayor and the police chief -- all of these are reportedly being held by the Russian-backed gunmen.


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Ukraine accuses Russians in deputy’s murder

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused the so-called “Strilka” group that is active in the Donetsk Oblast and a citizen of the Russian Federation, Colonel Igor Bezler, of involvement in the murder of the deputy of the of the Horlivka City Council Volodymyr Rybak, the SUB reports on its website, April 23, 2014.

According to the SUB, it has been determined that on Aril 17, Bezler (alias Bez) ordered the head of the self-proclaimed militia of the town of Horlivka to “neutralize” Volodymyr Rybak, who had tried to raise the Ukrainian national flag on the Horlivka City Council building.

[link to euromaidanpr.com]
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Terrorists, many of which are from Russia and Crimea. The long list of terrorism from these terrorsists against my nation grows by the hour.

Lavrov yesterday said if we use force against their terrorists who are terrorizing us, that Russia will send in their military to 'protect' their terrorists.

Russia is a nation gone completely stark raving mad. They will not get away with this in 2014. Maybe before the internet, before people could learn the truth, but not now. Russia will not get away with what they are doing to us. They will burn.
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You are using the word "terrorist" a lot lately, especially in combination with the word "Russia". SO, could you please stop with this terrorism ranting about Russia, because you are starting to sound like a Kiev Junta MP to me.
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Russian-Backed Separatists Continue to Detain 16 Civilians in Slavyansk


Today the Kyiv Post reports that a total of 16 people are missing, including journalists Serhiy Lefter and Yevhen Hapych, Irma Krat (who is not missing but is being held by the same separatists who are holding Simon Ostrovsky), and several politicians and residents of Slavyansk, including the mayor and the police chief -- all of these are reportedly being held by the Russian-backed gunmen.


[link to pressimus.com] …
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Ukraine accuses Russians in deputy’s murder

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused the so-called “Strilka” group that is active in the Donetsk Oblast and a citizen of the Russian Federation, Colonel Igor Bezler, of involvement in the murder of the deputy of the of the Horlivka City Council Volodymyr Rybak, the SUB reports on its website, April 23, 2014.

According to the SUB, it has been determined that on Aril 17, Bezler (alias Bez) ordered the head of the self-proclaimed militia of the town of Horlivka to “neutralize” Volodymyr Rybak, who had tried to raise the Ukrainian national flag on the Horlivka City Council building.

[link to euromaidanpr.com]
 Quoting: JazzyG


Terrorists, many of which are from Russia and Crimea. The long list of terrorism from these terrorsists against my nation grows by the hour.

Lavrov yesterday said if we use force against their terrorists who are terrorizing us, that Russia will send in their military to 'protect' their terrorists.

Russia is a nation gone completely stark raving mad. They will not get away with this in 2014. Maybe before the internet, before people could learn the truth, but not now. Russia will not get away with what they are doing to us. They will burn.
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You are using the word "terrorist" a lot lately, especially in combination with the word "Russia". SO, could you please stop with this terrorism ranting about Russia, because you are starting to sound like a Kiev Junta MP to me.
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NYT Retracts Russian-Photo Scoop
In the old days of journalism, we used to apply the scrutiny before we published a story on the front page or on any other page, especially if it had implications toward war or peace, whether people would live or die. However, in this case – fitting with the anti-Russian bias that has pervaded the mainstream U.S. press corps – the scrutiny was set aside long enough for this powerful propaganda theme to be put in play and to sweep across the media landscape.
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wrong choice of word, sentiment...action would be more apt, and I was referring to my own best kept to myself sentiments :-)
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hf
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Glad to meet a fellow awake Brit, good luck to you
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Thank you. I've been awake some time, just trying to put the pieces together in terms of understanding fully how shit works, we'll never be privy to the full facts. However some wise and wonderful awake people exist who wish to help us out. I take my cue from the awakened or at least try. The depression of coming awake stopped many years ago, I'm here to enjoy he show as George Carlin use to say. Peace & Love Brother.

hf


Can relate to that :-) George Carlin :-) great man, depression, yeah it's a hell of a shock at first, I'm killing time on here now to be honest, I really looked down the rabbit hole the first 6 years, tried to debunk things at first, I couldn't, I laugh at things I probably shouldn't do, black sense of humour, I don't fear them, not because I'm a hero or have strong religious beliefs, I think we are kind of privileged to be living now and will know a lot more of the truth than you think before we leave this world. Good health Bro'
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NYT Retracts Russian-Photo Scoop
In the old days of journalism, we used to apply the scrutiny before we published a story on the front page or on any other page, especially if it had implications toward war or peace, whether people would live or die. However, in this case – fitting with the anti-Russian bias that has pervaded the mainstream U.S. press corps – the scrutiny was set aside long enough for this powerful propaganda theme to be put in play and to sweep across the media landscape.
[link to consortiumnews.com]
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Very interesting. Retractions however are usually buried, not getting the same amount of media coverage as the false news first spread, and also are ignored by world leaders. Damage beyond repair already done for the most part as I have noticed in the past. Thank you for sharing this, good catch. (GLP however debunks these things all the time with or without an actual retraction to follow, so this is something at least)
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Ukraine detained more than 25 Russian GRU officers

"We already have more than 25 detained staff of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation. If SBU officially announces that it has evidence that these officers involved in this crime, it is a serious operational information not only from HUMINT sources a documentary and radio-electronic intelligence".

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Well, sunrise in Donetsk was an hour ago and still not a word of news.
I pray it mean nothing significant has happened and the storm is not upon us.
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Russian-Backed Separatists Continue to Detain 16 Civilians in Slavyansk


Today the Kyiv Post reports that a total of 16 people are missing, including journalists Serhiy Lefter and Yevhen Hapych, Irma Krat (who is not missing but is being held by the same separatists who are holding Simon Ostrovsky), and several politicians and residents of Slavyansk, including the mayor and the police chief -- all of these are reportedly being held by the Russian-backed gunmen.


[link to pressimus.com] …
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Ukraine accuses Russians in deputy’s murder

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused the so-called “Strilka” group that is active in the Donetsk Oblast and a citizen of the Russian Federation, Colonel Igor Bezler, of involvement in the murder of the deputy of the of the Horlivka City Council Volodymyr Rybak, the SUB reports on its website, April 23, 2014.

According to the SUB, it has been determined that on Aril 17, Bezler (alias Bez) ordered the head of the self-proclaimed militia of the town of Horlivka to “neutralize” Volodymyr Rybak, who had tried to raise the Ukrainian national flag on the Horlivka City Council building.

[link to euromaidanpr.com]
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Terrorists, many of which are from Russia and Crimea. The long list of terrorism from these terrorsists against my nation grows by the hour.

Lavrov yesterday said if we use force against their terrorists who are terrorizing us, that Russia will send in their military to 'protect' their terrorists.

Russia is a nation gone completely stark raving mad. They will not get away with this in 2014. Maybe before the internet, before people could learn the truth, but not now. Russia will not get away with what they are doing to us. They will burn.
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You are using the word "terrorist" a lot lately, especially in combination with the word "Russia". SO, could you please stop with this terrorism ranting about Russia, because you are starting to sound like a Kiev Junta MP to me.
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They are terrorists, this is terrorism, and I WILL continue to refer to them as such!
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
HMS Dragon shadows Russian warship Vice Admiral Kulakov close to UK waters. Type 45 looking good, vs the Ruskie tub!

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Ukraine detained more than 25 Russian GRU officers

"We already have more than 25 detained staff of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation. If SBU officially announces that it has evidence that these officers involved in this crime, it is a serious operational information not only from HUMINT sources a documentary and radio-electronic intelligence".

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Antiterrorism Center is going to use all the power and means to combat armed extremists

"Contrary to the decision of an amnesty in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions attackers, but in fact the real criminals continue to kill people, to hold office buildings, take hostages and carry out brutal torture on them. This illegal formations not surrender their weapons. Moreover, continuing to strengthen its criminal activities, "- noted in the department.

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"Contrary to the decision of an amnesty in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions attackers, but in fact the real criminals continue to kill people, to hold office buildings, take hostages and carry out brutal torture on them. This illegal formations not surrender their weapons. Moreover, continuing to strengthen its criminal activities, "- noted in the department. ...
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I thought they were in open rebellion and refusing to turn their heavy weapons on civilians and in fact was surrendering BTRs and so on to the ordinary people. I read this situation had not changed as of Wednesday afternoon.

I think it is wrong to call the Ukrainian army "real criminals" when they won't kill fellow citizens. That is over the top. They are doing the right thing.





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