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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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backed and controlled ain't the same thing. But this is typical byzantine-communist spin.
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whatever you say norespect


To the casual consumer of McMedia happy meals, the Ukrainian crisis is a consequence of Russia’s yearning for empire lost, a Nazi-style Anschluss that began with Crimea and will end, judging by the big-font hysteria, somewhere near Alaska.

For the more sober-minded observer, however, whose worldview has not been vandalized by misguided Russophobic inclinations, the reality of the situation is a bit more complicated.

In December 2013, then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich made a decision that seems radical only because we have been trained to believe that national indebtedness to foreign institutions is the natural order of things: After telling EU's officials that he intended to sign the European association agreement, Yanukovich sent shock waves across the Western world when he suddenly reversed his decision (Until now, only Iceland has had the courage to say 'no' to western liberal reformers and their massive cash injections since the bottom fell out of the global economy in 2008).

Why the change of heart? Because the now-deposed Ukrainian leader had no desire to sell his proud nation down the river. Yanukovich understood that the harsh austerity measures demanded by the EU-IMF-NATO triumvirate would have served as a final death blow to the Ukrainian people, already suffering from many years of high unemployment and a withering economy.

Yanukovich decided instead to accept a no-strings-attached loan of $15 billion from neighboring Russia - interest-free! Considering the ongoing meltdown of EU member states, most notably in Greece, which continues to stagnate despite a massive $145 billion injection in 2010, Kiev’s volte-face toward Russia was not without merit.

(by Robert Bridge, the author of the book, “Midnight in the American Empire.”)

enjoy you hamburger but care not to swallow too much at once ;)
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USA has it's share of propagators and victims of cultural marxism. But there is no idiots as Croatian "antifascist" idiot. Jebo ti Bandukovich i mater i Tita, debilchino!!!
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What else to get from typical Cro-hater. Parents didn't love you much, huh?
Here's more for you hungry mouths...

No sooner had Yanukovich adjusted his reading glasses to read the fine-print conditions on the EU-IMF agreement, US Senator John McCain was in central Kiev, agitating the local populace with boilerplate promises of a debt-free future while shaking hands and kissing so many babies you’d think he was running for the Ukrainian presidency.

So how does one explain Washington’s extreme diplomatic overtures in Kiev? Is it simply a case that the United States, as the self-designated champion of human rights and cake distribution, is merely acting as an impartial advocate on behalf of an internal political struggle (with emphasis on the word 'internal')? History would suggest otherwise.

It is no secret that the United States has been angling for a strategic advantage in Eastern Europe since the end of World War II, with special attention focused on strategically important Ukraine, which could serve as a future bridgehead into Central Asia and beyond. In an interview with Kiev’s Weekly Digest (May, 2004) Zbigniew Brzezinski, Washington’s premier adviser on geopolitical strategy, emphasized the importance of Russia's neighbor.

Ukraine “is certainly not a pawn; it may not be a queen, but it certainly is an important element on the chessboard – one of the most important.”

We could probably agree that one does not normally allude to the ultimate game of strategy when discussing democracy and people power. Clearly, Brzezinski and his worn-out chess board was making an unmistakable reference to Ukraine's military importance to the United States. It was not, of course, a call for humanitarian action.

Over the last 20 years, USAID has pumped $1.8 billion into various Ukrainian projects, which its website says help “Ukrainians experience increased political freedoms, stronger transparency guarantees, and more economic and social opportunities.”

How much that massive investment of US taxpayer dollars was used – knowingly or otherwise – to spread the seed of dissent revolution in Ukraine is anybody’s guess. But one thing is certain: the crisis in Ukraine has proven that the American empire is a borderless, virtual construct, which needn’t physically dominate a territory to possess it.

>>>

Like a fly-by-night vampire, the EU-IMF-NATO troika only requires an invitation to enter and operate inside of a country before the bloodletting, bank loans and corporate takeovers can begin. Eventually, the debtor country is stuffed into an ill-fitting NATO uniform and becomes a mere shadow of its former self.

Like so many international “patients” that came and went before, Ukraine will never be the same again.

Hang on ... Brussels is calling ...
yes ... more austerity measures for Croatia? OH OK Madam/Sir, Thank you so very much!
At your service worship
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I figured from your previous post that you have mastered the art of copy-paste..so this one wasn't necessary.

But, congratulations all the same.
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I've been following a lot of Ukrainians and Russians in the area, but I see no other news on this.
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Russian Market is usually relatively accurate.
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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@AJEnglish 5m
Ukraine: Forces ready for pro-Russia rebels
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What forces?
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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Oh buggery DOOOOOOOOOOOOM. sideways
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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If bullets are flying, people probably aren't tweeting...

just sayin'
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@russiannavyblog 1m
Before we start hyperventilating about today's flyby, here's how the game was played back in my day.

1988 soviet ramming USS Yorktown CG 48 in black sea


“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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im calling it doom off nothing is happening
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Mark Knoller&#8207;@markknoller·6 secs
WH says Pres Obama conferred again today with French Pres Hollande about the "worsening situation in Ukraine."
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have to say not much being said from Cameron just Hague posing it seems to be US France and Germany being the vocal ones out the west
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Russia is always an important ally for Britain in case the continent gets weird ideas about about international politics. chuckle
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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Indeed, confirm that Donetsk activists shot checkpoint separatists! Here is such patriotism in Donetsk!

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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So here's what the junta in Kiev has done since appointed:

- organised a gay pride parade for the 25th of may (big priority)
- censored russian tv stations from broadcasting in Ukraine
- forbid foreign languages to be used administratively (no russian in schools, administrations etc.)
- created a national guard from right-sector thugs
- are creating a militia of civilians that they want to arm of 12.000 loyalists to their regime to fight against the pro russians
- have used the army against civilians
- haven't paid any gas bills
- shipped their gold reserves out of the country to fort knox in the US
- signed off their sovereignty to the IMF and EU
- want to become a nuclear power
- lost control of the south-east regions, that's 25 million people or 40 percent of their GDP
- are threatening to cut the transit of gas to Europe that will result in a EU-wide recession and many more job losses
- don't have the loyalty of police and military who basically do as they please, and even defect

I'm sure I forgot some so you guys can help me complete the list hf
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Oh my God!
Now that's a worst government than ours!
How can that be?
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Western flavoured demoncracy...billclinton1obama9:billmechelle:
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im calling it doom off nothing is happening
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Oh Ffs this is like MEAG DOOM and you want to call it off.
Do me a favour go and sleep on top of Yellowstone please.
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im calling it doom off nothing is happening
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stfu
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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If bullets are flying, people probably aren't tweeting...

just sayin'
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Good point.
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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Stay on it DL.
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I'm seeing other things that are confirming there has been a shooting but I'm not seeing 10 killed. We should know shortly.
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Waiting for the first details. Not necessarily true but they usually tell you a lot anyway. Have to have some framework for speculation. Obviously won't be the end of the bloodshed if true.
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Petlyurivets @ Petlurivetc · 35 mins
known three arrived at the checkpoint, killed all of Colorados machines and departed. Volunteerism in Donets'k. \ L.Orobets
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Orobets writes that our shot in Donetsk 10 fags in St. George by shit on the body. Separate groups began to fight. Bravo!
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Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.

The leaders discussed various aspects of the crisis in Ukraine, first and foremost in the southeastern regions engulfed by mass protests against the policies of the current authorities in Kiev.

The Russian side stressed that the protests in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Slavyansk and other cities in southeastern Ukraine are the result of the Kiev authorities’ unwillingness and inability to take into account the interests of the Russian and Russian-speaking population. Vladimir Putin called upon Barack Obama to use the American side’s capabilities to prevent the use of force and bloodshed.

[link to eng.kremlin.ru]
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Ukrainian Pres. candidate Tsaryov is not leaving the ICTV tv station building. All exits are blocked. Just staying inside. #Ukraine
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Petlyurivets @ Petlurivetc · 35 mins
known three arrived at the checkpoint, killed all of Colorados machines and departed. Volunteerism in Donets'k. \ L.Orobets
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35 minutes ago. I don't get why Euromaidan is not reporting it. Are they afraid of Russia response or it didn't happened?
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Russia headlines tmw: 'No freedom of speech in Kiev' 'Guns planted on pro-Russian pres. candidate' - will stop, don't want to give RT ideas.
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Petlyurivets @ Petlurivetc · 35 mins
known three arrived at the checkpoint, killed all of Colorados machines and departed. Volunteerism in Donets'k. \ L.Orobets
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35 minutes ago. I don't get why Euromaidan is not reporting it. Are they afraid of Russia response or it didn't happened?
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Might have been the first tweet.
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Orobets writes that our shot in Donetsk 10 fags in St. George by shit on the body. Separate groups began to fight. Bravo!
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Big question is who is doing the shooting? It could be anyone (Right Sector militia, Kiev army, Russian false flag, etc)
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all quiet in dontesk a sky and bbc reporter just came on live everything looks quiet it defiantly looks like were back into a doom off situation


Analyzing the whole situation the only way real doom can happen is somehow nato and Russia go to war i dont see it happening theirs nothing much the west can do it looks like to me we may say a few weeks of disturbances thier will be a referedum the east will go to russia putin will go down as a hero


Putin is not some mad man that wants to annexe the whole of estern europe and former asian soviet countries such as uzebekistan
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Ukrainian football @ ukrfootball · 38 mins
Orobets writes that our shot in Donetsk 10 fags in St. George by shit on the body. Separate groups began to fight. Bravo!
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Big question is who is doing the shooting? It could be anyone (Right Sector militia, Kiev army, Russian false flag, etc)
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Assuming they didn't stick around to take credit then it is anybody's guess. I wonder who will guess what.
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Ukrainian football @ ukrfootball · 38 mins
Orobets writes that our shot in Donetsk 10 fags in St. George by shit on the body. Separate groups began to fight. Bravo!
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Big question is who is doing the shooting? It could be anyone (Right Sector militia, Kiev army, Russian false flag, etc)
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Assuming they didn't stick around to take credit then it is anybody's guess. I wonder who will guess what.
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Im sure we shall find out soon.
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Putin told Pres. that U.S. concerns about Russian interference in SE Ukraine is "based on inaccurate information." (Kremlin readout)
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Police search car of presidential candidate and separatist Tsariov, find bullets & military gear [link to t.co] #Ukraine
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Russian Market&#8207;@russian_market·1 min
Hearing reports on shooting at the entrance to Donetsk: unknown persons open gunfire on pro-Russian activists; at least 10 killed. God.

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effective shooting would indicate military plus a good body count...





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