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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
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Remember not everyone knows everything and if you decieve yourself into thinking you do. Then you will fall forever...
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Consider that Russia posted Nulands conversation and proved their innocence.

btw..I'm not so foolish as to belive that I know everything..

but IMAO I know more then the luciferian NWO which is led by ignorant sheep, and is STUPID
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Theres forces out their that can bewilder us, and astonish us at the same time. Many who think they are rightious will and shall fall. Remember if something doesnt seem right to yourself then it is not. And luckily and blessfully enough, the creator God knows and is in control of all.
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exactly
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And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
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you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS

You misunderstood. I was actually overestimating (in the not so distant past, as near as just a couple of weeks ago, actually) Russian ability to respond to a clear and present threat posed by the U.S.

So far, however, Russian leadership has proven me wrong, time and time again. So regardless of how much I would like Russia to stay alive and well, what facts show is that that is now virtually impossible to happen.

Russia does not have the leadership capable of defending the country.

You may call me names, you may die of heart attack screaming out of your lungs, cursing the gods and all the saints, it won't make a dint in the fact that Russian leadership has been betraying its own country (and for a long time), either willingly or out of sheer incompetency, it makes no difference. The end is still going to be the same.

R.I.P. Russia, you will be missed.
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Ruble feels better btw. Reaching Mondays exchange rate.
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

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Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
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you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66130460


Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
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Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Ruble feels better btw. Reaching Mondays exchange rate.
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63,2 - 2$ under mondays rate.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66134679


you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66130460


Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 6 min.
Russian Stock Market +9.90%
Sberbank +13,62%
VTB +8,29%
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Lukoil +6,70%
Rosneft +9,94%
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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Conflict Reporter ‏@Conflict_Report · 31 min.
#BREAKINGNEWS 26 RUSSIAN ATTACKS VS UKRAINIAN TARGETS TOOK PLACE ACROSS #DONBAS YESTERDAY.

We are back on the Sept 5 "ceasefire" track.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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A Russian invasion convoy passes an undisclosed place in #Donbas
Locals: "They are Russians." via @Conflict_Report [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …


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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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The Western economic establishment can see and understand the essence of
the situation. Leading Western economists are certainly aware of the severity of
the predicament and hopelessness of the situation the Western world finds itself
in, in Putin’s economic gold trap. After all, since the Bretton Woods agreements,
we all know the Golden rule: “Who has more gold sets the rules.” But
everyone in the West is silent about it. Silent because no one knows now how to
get out of this situation.
If you explain to the Western public all the details of the looming economic
disaster, the public will ask the supporters of a petro-FRN world the most terrible
questions, which will sound like this:
– How long will the West be able to buy oil and gas from Russia in exchange for
physical gold?
And what will happen to the petro-FRN after the West runs out of physical
gold to pay for Russian oil, gas and uranium, as well as to pay for Chinese
goods?
No one in the west today can answer these seemingly simple questions.

And this is called “Checkmate”, ladies and gentlemen. The game is over.

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you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66130460


Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688

Maybe local grocery stores were already out of supplies?
Maybe the Ikea shoppers wanted to buy better brands than the usual slop, while they still could?
I studied that pic a little better and everybody in line has boxes. They are all buying furniture? Perhaps its their way of converting rubles to a tangible item before the currency crashes harder? Or perhaps they are buying cots and chairs in preparation for the bunker sand shelters?
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- Send the check to German tax payers.


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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688

Maybe local grocery stores were already out of supplies?
Maybe the Ikea shoppers wanted to buy better brands than the usual slop, while they still could?
I studied that pic a little better and everybody in line has boxes. They are all buying furniture? Perhaps its their way of converting rubles to a tangible item before the currency crashes harder? Or perhaps they are buying cots and chairs in preparation for the bunker sand shelters?
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Or there was a promo-action and it is just a fake/mistake. I think @RussianMarket has this photo from another source, he did not take it personally.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Nah ruble seems to be crashing
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you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66130460


Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688


Mb it was some kind of sellout to make place for new stuff. Pics like this we have here very often when such markets make a part of their stuff cheaper.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Russia will send a new aid convoy to Eastern Ukraine tomorrow - RIA reports

“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Why in the hell go for this kind of stuff to Ikea? It is in every drugstore/supermarket/local store. And probably much more cheaper.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688

Maybe local grocery stores were already out of supplies?
Maybe the Ikea shoppers wanted to buy better brands than the usual slop, while they still could?
I studied that pic a little better and everybody in line has boxes. They are all buying furniture? Perhaps its their way of converting rubles to a tangible item before the currency crashes harder? Or perhaps they are buying cots and chairs in preparation for the bunker sand shelters?
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Or there was a promo-action and it is just a fake/mistake. I think @RussianMarket has this photo from another source, he did not take it personally.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


I wouldn't necessarily swipe this under the rug here there more then meets the eye here there's something up with this IKEA thing usually the most random thing lies a clue or something. RTS Redux what do you think this IKEA thing is about I find it interesting about the Nazi link here didn't know bout the IKEA founder Nazi link.
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That very strange coincidence when the headlines from the Russian Central Bank and the Chinese Central Bank hit the wires simultaneously
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


grumpy2

But I don't think it wakes them up.

rofl5
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Wow, and you probably think the ruble collapse is good too huh? NAF = Rebels... Rebels have gotten plenty of armaments from Russia, this is plain as day as they drive spray painted over Russian insignia'd vehicles/APCs/tanks. Not everything they got was taken from Ukraine military as I'm sure you're gonna claim...
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maybe so but Kiev can't prove anything.

All we have to go on is Tymoshenko's accusations, which were basically confirmed by a rebel commander.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


I commend you on your honesty... While we have difference of opinion on the provable logistical nature of providing weapons/tanks/mrls, it is obvious these things didn't originate out of thin air. We have a saying over in the states that goes like this: "It's not what you know, but what you can prove in court." Very much used in this thread about what people know to what they can prove with a video recording of the same.
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Do you know that South Ossetia, breakaway georgian region in the South Caucasus and partially recognised state (which also recognised DNR and LNR) offered Georgian weapons confiscated during the war to Novorossiya? It was in early months of the conflict, I think in May. Confiscated Georgian armament is very similar with the Russian one and also with Ukrainian.
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Maybe the truth lies within IKEA itself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688

Maybe local grocery stores were already out of supplies?
Maybe the Ikea shoppers wanted to buy better brands than the usual slop, while they still could?
I studied that pic a little better and everybody in line has boxes. They are all buying furniture? Perhaps its their way of converting rubles to a tangible item before the currency crashes harder? Or perhaps they are buying cots and chairs in preparation for the bunker sand shelters?
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


Or there was a promo-action and it is just a fake/mistake. I think @RussianMarket has this photo from another source, he did not take it personally.
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I wouldn't necessarily swipe this under the rug here there more then meets the eye here there's something up with this IKEA thing usually the most random thing lies a clue or something. RTS Redux what do you think this IKEA thing is about I find it interesting about the Nazi link here didn't know bout the IKEA founder Nazi link.
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It's so long ago (20 yrs or so) it was in the media here. As far as I remember their biz in Germany went a bit down at that time.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Pretty sure I heard yesterday that on Wednesday the ruble would stop trading on the foreign exchange market. Maybe that helps stabalize it for a brief bit while central bank injects money?
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Ukrainian parliament has approved a security plan declaring that Ukraine should become a “military state”
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$$ Looks like Nabiullina's resignation is the next logical step $USDRUB #scapegoat
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chuckle
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grumpy2

But I don't think it wakes them up.

rofl5
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Don't worry, we all pay for American adventures of world domination...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Ukrainian parliament has approved a security plan declaring that Ukraine should become a “military state”
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I'm assuming a military dictatorship there talking about?
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And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
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You misunderstood. I was actually overestimating (in the not so distant past, as near as just a couple of weeks ago, actually) Russian ability to respond to a clear and present threat posed by the U.S.

So far, however, Russian leadership has proven me wrong, time and time again. So regardless of how much I would like Russia to stay alive and well, what facts show is that that is now virtually impossible to happen.

Russia does not have the leadership capable of defending the country.

You may call me names, you may die of heart attack screaming out of your lungs, cursing the gods and all the saints, it won't make a dint in the fact that Russian leadership has been betraying its own country (and for a long time), either willingly or out of sheer incompetency, it makes no difference. The end is still going to be the same.

R.I.P. Russia, you will be missed.


It is clear that Putin did not take the most rational decisions from military point of view. Still he might have taken the best decisions from political point of view. I mean, Harkov could be taken much easier than Crimea, should the Ukrainian army defend Crimea and not surrender it could turn into a disaster.

Putin and his team leaded by defense minister gen. Shoigu did a lot in terms of war preparedness, strategic upgrade of missiles, ships and submarines, resumed long range flights. Will these people, however, be the ones who will finally start the war? I doubt it will be Mr Putin, for a number of reasons that I cannot list here. He could be the man after all, but there should be a big event of the magnitude of nuking Moscow. Without such a big occurrence, there is no way for Putin's today policy to give green light of a first nuclear strike. Not because they can't but because what they have declared and did so far contradicts a surprising or preemptive strike.

If leadership changes though, another team may put forward other priorities, as it was in the Soviet time. I have the feeling the leader of post-nuclear Russia will be someone else. And because that is not to be decided in the last moment, as the planning of late USSR didn't raise Gorbachev in the last moment but prepared him for decades for what he did, I suggest that soon there will be a change in the Russian ruling elite as it happened on 1/1/2000. Mr Putin already did enough for Russia, and I don't think he wants to be the war time president who will have pretty different duties from those of Putin today. Whether he will be gen. Shoigu or any other unknown general, the future will tell.

I hope the situation won't get as bad as to have a group of generals hidden in Siberian bunker, to blackmail both Moscow and USA and actually to be the ones who will start WW3, not the ruling elites of Moscow and Washington. Terminator 3 showed something similar, only it were not a group of generals with nuclear codes to orchestrate the nuclear exchange between superpowers, it were the robots who did it. The consequences will be pretty much the same though. Why should there be such generals in first place, one has to go deeper into the last 40 years history. Putin is not leftist, he is right-center.





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