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That's what I'm wondering. Kiev is continuing to stall the investigations while the rebels gave access. Now they are saying the area is mined?

And where are the bloody flight control tower tapes?
 Quoting: KFinn


Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
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I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
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#Dutch newspaper asks "Is this our friend?" #Poroshenko pic.twitter.com/hQOBXDA4hn #UKraine #cdnpoli #UN #warcriminal

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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


That's what I'm wondering. Kiev is continuing to stall the investigations while the rebels gave access. Now they are saying the area is mined?

And where are the bloody flight control tower tapes?
 Quoting: KFinn


Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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Neo-nazis everywhere are a problem but when they get into power and run a whole country, then it's a very big problem. Ukraine is in that situation right now.
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Which 'neo-nazis' are you claiming are in power in Ukraine?

some specifics please ...

Neither Poroshenko nor Yatsenyuk are naeo-nazi, fascist, or anything even remotely close. Both are clearly from political moderate parties and positions ... so give specifics for your claim please ...


In reality, between Russia and other European nations, Ukraine is the LEAST fascist of all of them.

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No nazis in Ukraini! Politics fine, no heil Hitler! Yatseniuk is friendly buddy, good guy!

Slava Ukraini, geroyam slva!

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chuckle
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Don't forget Antyufeyev who is now acting Prime Minister of DPR (in Borodai's absence) - and was the head of Transnistrian KGB for 20 years, yes. rockon
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Are you polish? Your name Tam On Ten...Russian would be Tam On Tot
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No. It's from Far Eastern mythology. In literal translation something like "heaven that constantly listens".
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Lord of the North...nice

Btw so post will fit in topic
We all must admit that Russia gives us a show of intervention with smallest possible cost. And this 3 or 4 downed Tochka shows us that they care about soldiers in Novorussia and act from their territory if situation force this.
Smart tactic as usual.
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Well, yeah. Actually, my first given nickname was Dynast Grausherra. Tamonten derived from that.

With that missiles whole situation is rather strange. But, considering the previous experience they are unlikely to hit the target in any case:
1) Missiles could have just dropped down shortly after the launch - they are very old and was without proper care.
2) Warheads could have not detonated at all - for the same reason.
3) Missiles could hit some random place - for the same reason and for the lack of personel's training.
4) Missiles could have been intercepted by Russian antiair defense in semiautomatical order - surely no country would be still if some ballistic object is moving towards its border.

In any case - I sense tremendous failure here. Ukrainian Army with heavy weaponry is alike to a monkey with a grenade.
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That's what I'm wondering. Kiev is continuing to stall the investigations while the rebels gave access. Now they are saying the area is mined?

And where are the bloody flight control tower tapes?
 Quoting: KFinn


Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Nobody here is crying you moron.
We just eat more apples than usual


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Nobody here is crying you moron.
We just eat more apples than usual


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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I think AC is saying that Poland started new business with Austria. cool2
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My old man said that about 2000LB's being dropped also about heart Skipping from the shock waves, its amazing even a stun grenade in open space and take the wind out of you
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Such videos confirm pro-Russian terrorists are killing civilians.


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hesright
 Quoting: KipKat


Kiev started claiming that yesterday for the first time since the conflict began.

Amazingly..they managed to "find" video of a separatist apparently doing something that they had never made an issue of or "confirmed" previously. (according to hindend)
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Nice way to rationalise the slaughter of innocent civilians. Why don't you condemn this behaviour just as hard as the ukr shelling? I bet when this whole mess thing stops, we'll hear lots more of the atrocities commited by the rebels. I bet you'd also be the one using the "wir haben es nicht gewusst" defense......
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That's what I'm wondering. Kiev is continuing to stall the investigations while the rebels gave access. Now they are saying the area is mined?

And where are the bloody flight control tower tapes?
 Quoting: KFinn


Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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I have always thought Russia should pay heavy reparations for co-operating with Hitler in invading Poland and Stalins subsequent murder of most of the Polish middle class.

People forget that Germany and Russia were allies when they invaded Poland.

Given Russias unprecedented history of murder and barbarity it's a shame moscow did not get nuked at the end of the cold war.

At least then we would have less boring soviet style propaganda on the internet - like this thread.
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Such videos confirm pro-Russian terrorists are killing civilians.


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hesright
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Kiev started claiming that yesterday for the first time since the conflict began.

Amazingly..they managed to "find" video of a separatist apparently doing something that they had never made an issue of or "confirmed" previously. (according to hindend)
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Nice way to rationalise the slaughter of innocent civilians. Why don't you condemn this behaviour just as hard as the ukr shelling? I bet when this whole mess thing stops, we'll hear lots more of the atrocities commited by the rebels. I bet you'd also be the one using the "wir haben es nicht gewusst" defense......
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I'm pointing out that the video was made to demonize separtists. It is obviously a fake.

btw..pro-Kiev nazi posters have ALWAYS rationalised the slaughter of innocent civilians, so don't lecture me on that you demonic POS.
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Nobody here is crying you moron.
We just eat more apples than usual


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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I think AC is saying that Poland started new business with Austria. cool2
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Sry for that, but no.
When Polish trucks with meat are halted on Russia's border, the same time austria's trucks come through with same product or even worse quality product.
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Kiev started claiming that yesterday for the first time since the conflict began.

Amazingly..they managed to "find" video of a separatist apparently doing something that they had never made an issue of or "confirmed" previously. (according to hindend)
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Nice way to rationalise the slaughter of innocent civilians. Why don't you condemn this behaviour just as hard as the ukr shelling? I bet when this whole mess thing stops, we'll hear lots more of the atrocities commited by the rebels. I bet you'd also be the one using the "wir haben es nicht gewusst" defense......
 Quoting: KipKat


I'm pointing out that the video was made to demonize separtists. It is obviously a fake.

btw..pro-Kiev nazi posters have ALWAYS rationalised the slaughter of innocent civilians, so don't lecture me on that you demonic POS.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's the lamest excuse ever, fake? Did they photoshop the mortars? Did they photoshop the smoke rising? Did they photoshop the residential neighbourhood they're pointing the mortars at?

It would suit you and the other russian shills if you'd even once condemned the rebels for their crimes (this or the hrw report), but you keep believing they are some kind of angelic heroic gods.

I hope putin bounces your shillcheck just like he did with the poor slaves he used in Sochi!
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Kiev started claiming that yesterday for the first time since the conflict began.

Amazingly..they managed to "find" video of a separatist apparently doing something that they had never made an issue of or "confirmed" previously. (according to hindend)
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Nice way to rationalise the slaughter of innocent civilians. Why don't you condemn this behaviour just as hard as the ukr shelling? I bet when this whole mess thing stops, we'll hear lots more of the atrocities commited by the rebels. I bet you'd also be the one using the "wir haben es nicht gewusst" defense......
 Quoting: KipKat


I'm pointing out that the video was made to demonize separtists. It is obviously a fake.

btw..pro-Kiev nazi posters have ALWAYS rationalised the slaughter of innocent civilians, so don't lecture me on that you demonic POS.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's the lamest excuse ever, fake? Did they photoshop the mortars? Did they photoshop the smoke rising? Did they photoshop the residential neighbourhood they're pointing the mortars at?

It would suit you and the other russian shills if you'd even once condemned the rebels for their crimes (this or the hrw report), but you keep believing they are some kind of angelic heroic gods.

I hope putin bounces your shillcheck just like he did with the poor slaves he used in Sochi!
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they didn't photoshop anything you moron, they made a video of themselves shelling from inside of some stadium so they could accuse separatists of the atrocity's they have been guilty of the past few months. It's obvious because this is the second video in two days that "confirmed" something that they hadn't been able to "confirm" in three months of fighting.
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Nice way to rationalise the slaughter of innocent civilians. Why don't you condemn this behaviour just as hard as the ukr shelling? I bet when this whole mess thing stops, we'll hear lots more of the atrocities commited by the rebels. I bet you'd also be the one using the "wir haben es nicht gewusst" defense......
 Quoting: KipKat


I'm pointing out that the video was made to demonize separtists. It is obviously a fake.

btw..pro-Kiev nazi posters have ALWAYS rationalised the slaughter of innocent civilians, so don't lecture me on that you demonic POS.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's the lamest excuse ever, fake? Did they photoshop the mortars? Did they photoshop the smoke rising? Did they photoshop the residential neighbourhood they're pointing the mortars at?

It would suit you and the other russian shills if you'd even once condemned the rebels for their crimes (this or the hrw report), but you keep believing they are some kind of angelic heroic gods.

I hope putin bounces your shillcheck just like he did with the poor slaves he used in Sochi!
 Quoting: KipKat


they didn't photoshop anything you moron, they made a video of themselves shelling from inside of some stadium so they could accuse separatists of the atrocity's they have been guilty of the past few months. It's obvious because this is the second video in two days that "confirmed" something that they hadn't been able to "confirm" in three months of fighting.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's an even lamer excuse, dude! These were mortars in Shakhtarsk, a seperatist held town, not? Look on a map with the stadium and look were the mortars are pointed at! You can't deny this, but I'm sure you'll make up another LIE or try to deflect from this by whining about ukr deeds.

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Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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I have always thought Russia should pay heavy reparations for co-operating with Hitler in invading Poland and Stalins subsequent murder of most of the Polish middle class.

People forget that Germany and Russia were allies when they invaded Poland.

Given Russias unprecedented history of murder and barbarity it's a shame moscow did not get nuked at the end of the cold war.

At least then we would have less boring soviet style propaganda on the internet - like this thread.
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Oh, yeah. Anytime after Britain pay reparations for supporting Mussolini and Franco, supporting German annexation of Austria and a half of Czechoslovakia. France was involved in Munich Agreement too, you know.
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Whatever the truth is, it will surface and thats the most important thing. Whether someone might like it or not is not important
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I'm pointing out that the video was made to demonize separtists. It is obviously a fake.

btw..pro-Kiev nazi posters have ALWAYS rationalised the slaughter of innocent civilians, so don't lecture me on that you demonic POS.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's the lamest excuse ever, fake? Did they photoshop the mortars? Did they photoshop the smoke rising? Did they photoshop the residential neighbourhood they're pointing the mortars at?

It would suit you and the other russian shills if you'd even once condemned the rebels for their crimes (this or the hrw report), but you keep believing they are some kind of angelic heroic gods.

I hope putin bounces your shillcheck just like he did with the poor slaves he used in Sochi!
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they didn't photoshop anything you moron, they made a video of themselves shelling from inside of some stadium so they could accuse separatists of the atrocity's they have been guilty of the past few months. It's obvious because this is the second video in two days that "confirmed" something that they hadn't been able to "confirm" in three months of fighting.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


That's an even lamer excuse, dude! These were mortars in Shakhtarsk, a seperatist held town, not? Look on a map with the stadium and look were the mortars are pointed at! You can't deny this!
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the video was scripted, the dude was reading from a piece of paper ffs

and why would separatists make a video of themselves shelling in a residential neighborhood then post it to the Internet? It only makes sense if that dude doing the shelling was pro-kiev.
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Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
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I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
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bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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I have always thought Russia should pay heavy reparations for co-operating with Hitler in invading Poland and Stalins subsequent murder of most of the Polish middle class.

People forget that Germany and Russia were allies when they invaded Poland.

Given Russias unprecedented history of murder and barbarity it's a shame moscow did not get nuked at the end of the cold war.

At least then we would have less boring soviet style propaganda on the internet - like this thread.
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Hey, frog-eater, you forget that Germany paid the reparations not because they invaded Poland, but because they lost the war, do you understand what I mean? The bones of your grand-grandfathers are still decomposing in the marshes near Borodino, you are welcome to make another try if you dare.
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bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37074550


I think AC is saying that Poland started new business with Austria. cool2
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Sry for that, but no.
When Polish trucks with meat are halted on Russia's border, the same time austria's trucks come through with same product or even worse quality product.
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Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

I'll think you will see a lot more of that type of thing over the next few years. The countries who aren't putting sanctions on Russia will benefit.
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*Now we'll get the truth* RT @RT_com: Russian experts to visit #MH17 crash site today to examine debris [link to on.rt.com] #Ukraine
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Of course the reality is that the rest of the world only expects 'Russian truth' ie. lies from any Russian 'investigators.'

They sent a Buk SAM into Ukraine which shot down the jet from just south of Snizhne and was then taken back to Russia via the same flatbed truck that brought it into Ukraine. There is not much more that an official investigation will revail other than additional details to that fact.
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Many sources reported that they didn't see mines or rebels at the crash site, even CNN stated it was no problem to get there and back.

I don't know why the investigators keep letting themselves getting fooled by the Ukrainians.

Even the statement the Ukrainians made about the findings on the blackbox where heavily criticized
 Quoting: °Lucy°


I don't think the investigators are being fooled. I think they are using diplomacy so they can stay and get the work done.

If they say one bad word against Kiev, they will be kicked out within a second.

As a side note, Australia is refusing to apply sanctions against Russia and our Prime Minister has been in close contact with Putin.
 Quoting: KFinn


bump

Poland meanwhile cries in MSM, why the bad Russia banned our fruits and wagatables and why our local market of those will collapse soon. Thats about 50k fully loaded trucks of supplies not leaving Polish farms this year.
A kg of apples costs now about 0.10$ after the Russia ban, all apple producers in Poland will lose money on every kg they produce.

Oh and they tottaly not mention sanctions, like that is not the reason why Russia bans polish food :)

Stupid poles, again outplayed - when Russia stopped business with Poland it started new one with Austria :P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


I have always thought Russia should pay heavy reparations for co-operating with Hitler in invading Poland and Stalins subsequent murder of most of the Polish middle class.

People forget that Germany and Russia were allies when they invaded Poland.

Given Russias unprecedented history of murder and barbarity it's a shame moscow did not get nuked at the end of the cold war.

At least then we would have less boring soviet style propaganda on the internet - like this thread.
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Ok one post with 4 sentences : one about how u hate russia, second about how russia is bad, third about how russia should be nuked, and fourth about how everyone else who dosnt agree with you, can put arguments on his side - is a propaganda tool of soviet style.

Cmon banderista, u can do more
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Are you polish? Your name Tam On Ten...Russian would be Tam On Tot
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No. It's from Far Eastern mythology. In literal translation something like "heaven that constantly listens".
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Lord of the North...nice

Btw so post will fit in topic
We all must admit that Russia gives us a show of intervention with smallest possible cost. And this 3 or 4 downed Tochka shows us that they care about soldiers in Novorussia and act from their territory if situation force this.
Smart tactic as usual.
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Well, yeah. Actually, my first given nickname was Dynast Grausherra. Tamonten derived from that.

With that missiles whole situation is rather strange. But, considering the previous experience they are unlikely to hit the target in any case:
1) Missiles could have just dropped down shortly after the launch - they are very old and was without proper care.
2) Warheads could have not detonated at all - for the same reason.
3) Missiles could hit some random place - for the same reason and for the lack of personel's training.
4) Missiles could have been intercepted by Russian antiair defense in semiautomatical order - surely no country would be still if some ballistic object is moving towards its border.

In any case - I sense tremendous failure here. Ukrainian Army with heavy weaponry is alike to a monkey with a grenade.
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You reek to the heavens.
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You are probably the filthiest, self-adoring potz I' have ever encountered.
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 Quoting: °Lucy°


Of course the reality is that the rest of the world only expects 'Russian truth' ie. lies from any Russian 'investigators.'

They sent a Buk SAM into Ukraine which shot down the jet from just south of Snizhne and was then taken back to Russia via the same flatbed truck that brought it into Ukraine. There is not much more that an official investigation will revail other than additional details to that fact.
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In a way though, I really do hope that Russia cooks up some fantastic lie with fabricated evidence because then the US will release a whole gaggle of satellite and other imagery which will own the Russians and make em look like the lying fools they area.
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 Quoting: °Lucy°


Of course the reality is that the rest of the world only expects 'Russian truth' ie. lies from any Russian 'investigators.'

They sent a Buk SAM into Ukraine which shot down the jet from just south of Snizhne and was then taken back to Russia via the same flatbed truck that brought it into Ukraine. There is not much more that an official investigation will revail other than additional details to that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31480913


In a way though, I really do hope that Russia cooks up some fantastic lie with fabricated evidence because then the US will release a whole gaggle of satellite and other imagery which will own the Russians and make em look like the lying fools they area.
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there is already plenty of that.
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 Quoting: °Lucy°


Of course the reality is that the rest of the world only expects 'Russian truth' ie. lies from any Russian 'investigators.'

They sent a Buk SAM into Ukraine which shot down the jet from just south of Snizhne and was then taken back to Russia via the same flatbed truck that brought it into Ukraine. There is not much more that an official investigation will revail other than additional details to that fact.
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Lets wait on the facts first, so far there aren't any
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