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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Latest rumor from Russians inside Ukraine: Russian military has erected a massive field hospital to treat future wounded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 That's the best you can come up with? That's not even the "latest rumor" - been used here days ago! Disinfo isn't working on us anymore, sorry. Watch for Turkey being attacked - someone will get framed alright to get NATO involved. Then you all have your damn Doom if that happens. Betting still everything on Putin to prevent and stop this madness forever! Red line is Syria, Ukraine was a bluff! Different unit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Latest rumor from Russians inside Ukraine: Russian military has erected a massive field hospital to treat future wounded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 That's the best you can come up with? That's not even the "latest rumor" - been used here days ago! Disinfo isn't working on us anymore, sorry. Watch for Turkey being attacked - someone will get framed alright to get NATO involved. Then you all have your damn Doom if that happens. Betting still everything on Putin to prevent and stop this madness forever! Red line is Syria, Ukraine was a bluff! Different unit. I see what you did there |
RelentlessDespot
Abrasive Fuck User ID: 53839221 United States 03/28/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Latest rumor from Russians inside Ukraine: Russian military has erected a massive field hospital to treat future wounded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 That's the best you can come up with? That's not even the "latest rumor" - been used here days ago! Disinfo isn't working on us anymore, sorry. Watch for Turkey being attacked - someone will get framed alright to get NATO involved. Then you all have your damn Doom if that happens. Betting still everything on Putin to prevent and stop this madness forever! Red line is Syria, Ukraine was a bluff! minor correction, but the red line was Lybia... This is all because of what we did there. Agree with everything else though. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Latest rumor from Russians inside Ukraine: Russian military has erected a massive field hospital to treat future wounded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 That's the best you can come up with? That's not even the "latest rumor" - been used here days ago! Disinfo isn't working on us anymore, sorry. Watch for Turkey being attacked - someone will get framed alright to get NATO involved. Then you all have your damn Doom if that happens. Betting still everything on Putin to prevent and stop this madness forever! Red line is Syria, Ukraine was a bluff! minor correction, but the red line was Lybia... This is all because of what we did there. Agree with everything else though. Of course, after Libya, they said no more, so yeah call that the red line if you want. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 "Next up Moldova? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Russian troops are gathering in growing numbers to the east of the Ukrainian border, with the Journal reporting Friday that some 50,000 Russian forces are concealing equipment and bringing in additional food and spare parts. In other words, they're behaving like a military preparing to invade. The 25,000 Russian troops in Crimea, who include elite special forces brought in the past month, are also setting up a southern military beachhead after disarming the Ukrainian military. And to the southwest, in Moldova's breakaway region of Transnistria, the 1,500 members of Russia's 179th Motor Rifle Regiment have been supplemented in recent weeks with arms and some 800 additional commandos, according to Ukrainian officials." [link to online.wsj.com] Meh, Murdoch propaganda in print. It's so much more entertaining on Fox .... So are these supposed troops concealed or not? If concealed, how do they know how many there are? If not concealed, why do they say they are? Who is the source of this (mis)information? Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Field hosp. is in Bryansk, where, incidentally, this charming new development has arisen: "March 28, 2014 14:44 Inmates barricade themselves inside Bryansk prison demanding a meeting with prosecutors - source BRYANSK. March 28 (Interfax) - Up to 100 people serving their sentences at Penitentiary No. 6 in the town of Klintsy, Bryansk region, where earlier 300 inmates cut their wrists, have demanded a meeting with officials of the local branch of Russia's Federal Penitentiary Institutions Service (FSIN) and prosecutors." [link to www.interfax.com] |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 minor correction, but the red line was Lybia... This is all because of what we did there. Quoting: RelentlessDespot Agree with everything else though. Of course, after Libya, they said no more, so yeah call that the red line if you want. or the last straw ...? Sun_dancer |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Strange APC's passing Novozybkov station, Bryansk Region [52°31′22″ N 31°56′49″E] Loudspeakers? Riot Control? Psyops? pic.twitter.com/WYzA0MURAh Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Don't know if that link will work - here's another to pic of the strange APCs [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Strange APC's passing Novozybkov station, Bryansk Region [52°31′22″ N 31°56′49″E] Loudspeakers? Riot Control? Psyops? pic.twitter.com/WYzA0MURAh Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Don't know if that link will work - here's another to pic of the strange APCs [link to twitter.com (secure)] Possibly a ZS-82. Speakers can allegedly be heard from 6 km. Psy-ops. |
allisaMI
User ID: 25379369 United States 03/28/2014 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Latest rumor from Russians inside Ukraine: Russian military has erected a massive field hospital to treat future wounded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 That's the best you can come up with? That's not even the "latest rumor" - been used here days ago! Disinfo isn't working on us anymore, sorry. Watch for Turkey being attacked - someone will get framed alright to get NATO involved. Then you all have your damn Doom if that happens. Betting still everything on Putin to prevent and stop this madness forever! Red line is Syria, Ukraine was a bluff! minor correction, but the red line was Lybia... This is all because of what we did there. Agree with everything else though. what exactly? formerly allisaTX |
Ontheverge
User ID: 28176350 United States 03/28/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Good evening again my Friends My Ukrianian friend will be coming for a visit by train shortly. I am worried how it will all go, considering a lot of people use Ukraine's current instability for personal benefits. Quoting: Snuffielover When he arrives I'll be sure to talk over the situation in his home town of Kherson and write some more. Nothing like news from someone who lives there. But this whole "Let's deploy half of our total working tanks to the border of Ukraine!" mess could get out of hand really quickly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lukasz Wojcik ‏@LukaszWojcik1 6h Transport of about 50 #leopard tanks just cruised through my home town today. They go East... [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lukasz Wojcik ‏@LukaszWojcik1 6h Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56178829 Transport of about 50 #leopard tanks just cruised through my home town today. They go East... [link to twitter.com (secure)] Polkowice, Poland, headed for the border. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56178829 United States 03/28/2014 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Tanks at Unecha, Bryansk Oblast, reportedly taken today. Source: VK [link to maps.google.ca (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Good evening again my Friends My Ukrianian friend will be coming for a visit by train shortly. I am worried how it will all go, considering a lot of people use Ukraine's current instability for personal benefits. Quoting: Snuffielover When he arrives I'll be sure to talk over the situation in his home town of Kherson and write some more. Nothing like news from someone who lives there. But this whole "Let's deploy half of our total working tanks to the border of Ukraine!" mess could get out of hand really quickly. Where do you get "half of our total working tanks" at the border? Is this what the news in Moscow is reporting? Do you have a link? Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34406858 United States 03/28/2014 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Israel Channel 10: #IDF is conducting massive drills in #Golan to simulate a decisive war on the north.. #Hezbollah #Syria #Lebanon Quoting: rachel3108 Israel's massive abuse of its Arab citizens is going to come back to haunt them. Hezbollah doctrine in the event of another war with Israel is to cross the border into Israel itself in the expectation that Israeli Arabs would rise up to support them. The Arabs in Israel are concentrated in the north of the country. |
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Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 About the troop buildup on Ukraine's borders vel non: who has motive to lie? First let's assume there are some allowed number of troops close to the border, and some announced exercises have occurred. Now according to Russia, a number of Ukrainian and NATO observers have had air patrols of the border regions and have not identified extraordinary troop mobilizations. What is Russia's motive to lie? Since Ukraine, US, and NATO are all hyperventilating about there being a huge Russian troop build-up, any dreams of a "sneak attack" have long been dashed. And indeed a sneak attack would have been much easier several weeks ago, when 150,000 troops were engaged in a (long ago pre-announced) exercise close to Kiev. Now what is US/NATO motive to lie? Well Russia is a big thorn in their goal of global domination. Russia almost stopped "the West's" destruction of Libya - it was only because in the end NATO and US decided to break international law by exceeding the UN Security Council mandate that they succeeded to fold Libya into the NWO. But Russia has successfully stopped further destruction and destabilization of Iran and the wholsale bombing and invasion of Syria. They have probably taken other actions regarding Venezuela and other countries that have annoyed those who in "the West" who seek absolute dominion over the world (such as the neo-cons and their ideology of "full spectrum dominance"). So now "the West" has marked Russia as an enemy - because to "the West", anyone who stands up to their actions, regardless of how evil and destructive, is an "enemy". And "the West" foresees that, as Russia is now insurgent, it will continue to act as a counterweight to its aspirations of world domination. So the point of lieing in "the West" is clear: to get public opinion against Russia. One can see this by declining views of Russia in the USA. By painting Russia as evil, they will get (i) enhanced spending on (and profits of) the military/security industries, probably the two most powerful industries in the US, (ii) more powers to spy on the world and Americans, and (iii) more causus belli to act in world affairs regardless of Russian opposition. Sun_dancer |
AKObserver
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56191733 Germany 03/28/2014 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 About the troop buildup on Ukraine's borders vel non: who has motive to lie? Quoting: Sun_dancer First let's assume there are some allowed number of troops close to the border, and some announced exercises have occurred. Now according to Russia, a number of Ukrainian and NATO observers have had air patrols of the border regions and have not identified extraordinary troop mobilizations. What is Russia's motive to lie? Since Ukraine, US, and NATO are all hyperventilating about there being a huge Russian troop build-up, any dreams of a "sneak attack" have long been dashed. And indeed a sneak attack would have been much easier several weeks ago, when 150,000 troops were engaged in a (long ago pre-announced) exercise close to Kiev. Now what is US/NATO motive to lie? Well Russia is a big thorn in their goal of global domination. Russia almost stopped "the West's" destruction of Libya - it was only because in the end NATO and US decided to break international law by exceeding the UN Security Council mandate that they succeeded to fold Libya into the NWO. But Russia has successfully stopped further destruction and destabilization of Iran and the wholsale bombing and invasion of Syria. They have probably taken other actions regarding Venezuela and other countries that have annoyed those who in "the West" who seek absolute dominion over the world (such as the neo-cons and their ideology of "full spectrum dominance"). So now "the West" has marked Russia as an enemy - because to "the West", anyone who stands up to their actions, regardless of how evil and destructive, is an "enemy". And "the West" foresees that, as Russia is now insurgent, it will continue to act as a counterweight to its aspirations of world domination. So the point of lieing in "the West" is clear: to get public opinion against Russia. One can see this by declining views of Russia in the USA. By painting Russia as evil, they will get (i) enhanced spending on (and profits of) the military/security industries, probably the two most powerful industries in the US, (ii) more powers to spy on the world and Americans, and (iii) more causus belli to act in world affairs regardless of Russian opposition. Absolutely right! I want to add something - I notice the headline that Obama asked Putin to pull away his troops from the border of Ukraine! Now we all know there are no unusual troop movements, that was confirmed by international observers of several different countries. In fact Putin called the bluff and now it's all negotiation behind the scenes. We get only these sort of news for entertainment - in the end, Obama will look great to the world if the Russian's seemingly backed down and the White House reached and agreement with Russia to end this crisis diplomatically. Then all can shake hands and look good. But we still have Syria hanging in the air and the latest Turkey leak of war plan with a False Flag. I think those things are being discussed behind the scenes. Putin has the strongest hand though, so I have hope this will be solved without a major war breaking out. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/28/2014 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It's an interesting article. Because on the one hand it is claiming Russia is building up forces around Ukraine for an invasion (the unsubstantiated allegations - let's call it propaganda). But yet, at the top of the article, is a picture, and what does it show? Russia allowing Ukrainian tanks and troops it had seized in Crimea to return to Ukraine (the facts). So, from a tactical military point of view, what sense does it make for Russia to immediately return these tanks to Ukraine, if it is planning an invasion? Sun_dancer |
Snuffielover
User ID: 55175457 Russia 03/29/2014 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Good evening again my Friends My Ukrianian friend will be coming for a visit by train shortly. I am worried how it will all go, considering a lot of people use Ukraine's current instability for personal benefits. Quoting: Snuffielover When he arrives I'll be sure to talk over the situation in his home town of Kherson and write some more. Nothing like news from someone who lives there. But this whole "Let's deploy half of our total working tanks to the border of Ukraine!" mess could get out of hand really quickly. Where do you get "half of our total working tanks" at the border? Is this what the news in Moscow is reporting? Do you have a link? It was a figure of speech Sun Dancer. I don't know how many active and deployed T-72 variant tanks we have operational and fully supplied with fuel, ammunition, rockets and spare parts. I am sure that number, more or less is available online. Then you can see all those reportss with photographs coming in and try to count the deployed tanks. How many can we count, one brigade? Two divisions? Some of those tanks are using gas turbines which are renowned for being very loud, smoky and craving good fuels and almost constant maintenance. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54504562 Canada 03/29/2014 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It's an interesting article. Because on the one hand it is claiming Russia is building up forces around Ukraine for an invasion (the unsubstantiated allegations - let's call it propaganda). But yet, at the top of the article, is a picture, and what does it show? Russia allowing Ukrainian tanks and troops it had seized in Crimea to return to Ukraine (the facts). So, from a tactical military point of view, what sense does it make for Russia to immediately return these tanks to Ukraine, if it is planning an invasion? It is unclear whether they are returning everything. I don't suppose the ships that defected to the Black Sea Fleet will be. |