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Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/18/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 OBAMA SPEAKING [link to www.whitehouse.gov] "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Skizzy?
User ID: 60324921 Estonia 07/18/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alec Luhn ‏@ASLuhn 36 s Quoting: Falter Russian rep Churkin at UN: "Any normal person must wonder, I think, Why did Ukrainian air dispatchers send a plane into a war zone?" maybe someone can tabulate all of the items of evidence (both direct evidence and circumstantial evidence) and then sort them all out as to who they mostly point to. and in that way we could get a huge picture of what we have here. The outcome depends on who does the investigation... |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/18/2014 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I would like to tell that everyone is now focused on MH17 incident and doesn't give a fu*k about situation in Ukraine anymore. Whole this mess could be only ""fog of war", distraction (paid 300 lives of foreigners). No one cares about todays Grad attacks on whole east of Ukraine. So let mi show you what is actually happening behind this accident: [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Skizzy?
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Cats88
User ID: 59892734 United States 07/18/2014 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alec Luhn ‏@ASLuhn 36 s Quoting: Falter Russian rep Churkin at UN: "Any normal person must wonder, I think, Why did Ukrainian air dispatchers send a plane into a war zone?" maybe someone can tabulate all of the items of evidence (both direct evidence and circumstantial evidence) and then sort them all out as to who they mostly point to. and in that way we could get a huge picture of what we have here. The outcome depends on who does the investigation... yes. all of these weasels are very skilled at cooking the books. |
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Skizzy?
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Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/18/2014 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed nu Obama: evidence indicates the plane was shot down by Russian separatists. Seconds after: FBI and OSCE is on the way to the scene. Then, what evidence?? Please tell us Obama! "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 58336870 Netherlands 07/18/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I think the best way for President Putin to respond to the world on this matter is this- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59249818 We (Russia) shot down the plane? Fuck you, prove it. Our technology/weapons were used in shooting down the plane? Fuck you, prove it. Soldiers we support fighting against the Kyivian regime shot down the plane? Fuck you, prove it. Do we have the plane's black box and IF we do is it in Moscow? Fuck you, prove it. The dumb fucks on this planet still cannot prove Russian troops invaded Crimea prior to the referendum. They still can't prove my troops and Russian military equipment continue to invade Ukraine. Given these two points, the world community will not believe or accept We had anything to do with this plane being shot down. VVP Nobody has to prove shit. Europeans and US can just cut Russia out of the financial and economic system, bar all Russian commercial aircraft from their airspace. Stop issuing visas. Reinstate cold war restrictions. Freeze a few million to pay the victim's families. Start shipping in arms to the Ukrainian government and let Russia have another Afghanistan experience. All without proving shit. Of course....they don't have the guts for any of that. lol yea. some people live in a dream world. you already started wrong by saying europe+america... also "cut out of the financial system?!" you realise russia is one of the emerging powers and USA is... almost china?! and all other partys that russia works with are all the other rising financial powers? You seem to think youre living in the old USA with strong leaders and great moral... the people might still think the same way, but your government doesnt... (not ment in a bad way to americans) |
Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 07/18/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Strelkov say, that many dead peoples, what was find in place plane was dead few days... They not lost live in plane crash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60364057 [link to sovpl.forum24.ru] THAT ^^^ is what I also concluded of seeing the pictures of the body's !!! They were not "fresh" .... xxxK |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/18/2014 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Obama is actually blaming Russia AND Ukraine for once. Last Edited by Falter on 07/18/2014 12:01 PM "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Skizzy?
User ID: 60324921 Estonia 07/18/2014 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Strelkov say, that many dead peoples, what was find in place plane was dead few days... They not lost live in plane crash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60364057 [link to sovpl.forum24.ru] THAT ^^^ is what I also concluded of seeing the pictures of the body's !!! They were not "fresh" .... xxxK So dead people are flying in airplanes now? |
°Lucy°
User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/18/2014 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alec Luhn ‏@ASLuhn 36 s Quoting: Falter Russian rep Churkin at UN: "Any normal person must wonder, I think, Why did Ukrainian air dispatchers send a plane into a war zone?" This flight usually took a route more to the south, but yesterday it was more northbound than all the previous days before. This does makes one wonder.. Another theory could be that it was know that there were those missiles in Donetsk and the route was given to the plane in the sick hope of a mistake made in Donetsk since there where other planes downed there the days before "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
°Lucy°
User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/18/2014 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Strelkov say, that many dead peoples, what was find in place plane was dead few days... They not lost live in plane crash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60364057 [link to sovpl.forum24.ru] THAT ^^^ is what I also concluded of seeing the pictures of the body's !!! They were not "fresh" .... xxxK They looked pretty "fresh" to me "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Skizzy?
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Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 07/18/2014 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are “not fresh” – these are people who died a few days ago. Quoting: Star Fhisp -Igor Strelkov [link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com] BREAKING DETAIL !!!! xxxK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57271883 Netherlands 07/18/2014 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 UK CALLS ON RUSSIA TO CONDEMN SEPARATISTS CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY - UK AMBASSADOR AT UN Quoting: Janey Yeah... That's pretty quick, as expected. Even though there is no clear evidence whatsoever yet which party was responsible for this. I doubt that any kind of investigation will truly be unbiased and free from anything that might attempt to hijack it for political ends. You know they will. It is unlikely the true perpetrator will be found. There's too much at stake. I can see that the incident has proven, no matter how you look at it, to be convenient to western based politics when it comes to demonizing Russia in the eyes of the people living in the EU. Ofcourse Russia will be blamed right away. Even though Ukraine could be just as suspect at this point, however unlikely that may be. One, how public aviation is still allowed to fly over a warzone to this date is absurd. Secondly, you dont just bring down an airline jet. You need some serious military hardware to reach that kind of altitude. You'd think, why Ukraine would see the need to fire at a jet knowing that the Seperatists have nothing like that in their possession. The only thing remotely close are Russian patrols along their own border. From an entirely neutral point of view, there's a possibility of a false flag, mistaking an airliner for Ukrainian military airforce (by seperatists) or pure mindless criminal intent. But why oh why planes are still allowed over this region at this point with previous incidents in mind is just... beyond me. I'm flabbergasted. Being Dutch, i want truth to prevail. But i don't see it happening. Suppose the seperatists are found guilty? The link will be made to Russia having supplied them of such weapons. Russia will ofcourse deny and the west will in some way demand retribution... There's a possibility for war here. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/18/2014 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And by the way just one little reminder - did not said Kiev that "We have nasty surprise for separatists." a few days ago? Think about it... “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Skizzy?
User ID: 60324921 Estonia 07/18/2014 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are “not fresh” – these are people who died a few days ago. Quoting: Star Fhisp -Igor Strelkov [link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com] BREAKING DETAIL !!!! xxxK I don't know if your desperation is sad or funny... probably both. |
°Lucy°
User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/18/2014 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are “not fresh” – these are people who died a few days ago. Quoting: Star Fhisp -Igor Strelkov [link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com] BREAKING DETAIL !!!! xxxK I don't know if your desperation is sad or funny... probably both. I find that statement about the corpses disrespectful and sad. A forensic examination and identification of the bodies will be carried out anyway "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Skizzy?
User ID: 60324921 Estonia 07/18/2014 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are “not fresh” – these are people who died a few days ago. Quoting: Star Fhisp -Igor Strelkov [link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com] BREAKING DETAIL !!!! xxxK I don't know if your desperation is sad or funny... probably both. I find that statement about the corpses disrespectful and sad. A forensic examination and identification of the bodies will be carried out anyway Yet you keep on supporting these people... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60387225 Spain 07/18/2014 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed nu Quoting: Falter Obama: evidence indicates the plane was shot down by Russian separatists. Seconds after: FBI and OSCE is on the way to the scene. Then, what evidence?? Please tell us Obama! [link to 2010.newsweek.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60384892 Russia 07/18/2014 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Map with data about plane: [link to sovpl.forum24.ru] As all can see - so plane was shot down in Ukraine junta forces. |
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FormerlyBritish
User ID: 55803746 United States 07/18/2014 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alec Luhn ‏@ASLuhn 36 s Quoting: Falter Russian rep Churkin at UN: "Any normal person must wonder, I think, Why did Ukrainian air dispatchers send a plane into a war zone?" Because the ICAO told them to. The ICAO said to avoid Crimea because of danger, but that Donbass was safe. Obviously the ICAO has problems. What is important is to stop flying over Ukraine to avoid a repetition. One aircraft with 300 people is a relatively minor loss of life in this war. |
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User ID: 11619293 United States 07/18/2014 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Terry Moran ‏@TerryMoran 8m BREAKING: Shots fired by rebels at international team of investigators (OSCE) in Ukraine as they approach plane wreckage, via @KiritRadia |
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°Lucy°
User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/18/2014 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I find that statement about the corpses disrespectful and sad. A forensic examination and identification of the bodies will be carried out anyway Yet you keep on supporting these people... I said before, I listen to all sides and make up my own mind. And that doesn't change the fact that I certainly dislike or disrespect some people on whatever side. Personally I think Poroshenko is bad for the Ukraine people and I wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw a tractor "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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