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BREAKING - PARIS ATTACKERS IDENTIFIED AS SAID KOUACHI, SHERIF KOUACHI AND HAMID MOURAD #CharlieHebdo

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Brothers?

Another Boston?
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BREAKING - PARIS ATTACKERS IDENTIFIED AS SAID KOUACHI, SHERIF KOUACHI AND HAMID MOURAD #CharlieHebdo

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Brothers?

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Two of the three Paris attackers apparently brothers. Like with Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev a weak link for fundamental recruiting
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You are not that related.
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What?
Russia and f.Ukraine were the parts of one country more time than otherwise. From before 10th century till Mongols and from Khmelnitskiy till Gorbachov. In a thousand years of written history you'll find 400 years of f.Ukraine being separate from Russia - at most.

Galicia is completely separate story, yeah. But that's the minority of population. Even if their variaton of language is being forced as state one, it doesn't mean that they are "true" Ukrainians. Hell, this ethnonim appeared only in 19th century.
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All claims that ethnonim "Ukrainians" appeared in 19th only (or even in 20th century) are not true. Same as your claim on term "Kievian Rus". This is just a part of Russian policy to belittle the importance of Ukraine in history of Russian & Soviet Empires, and Russia is implementing this policy since long years.

In his "Boris Godunov" (1825), "Poltava" (1828), "An Outline of History of Ukraine" (app.1830-1833) Pushikin used "Ukraine", "Ukrainians" when describing events of 16-18 centuries. It means that ethnonim was known before 19th century. This is also confirmed by numerous maps of 17th century. Before 17th century Ukraine was simply "Rus", but people of Kievan Rus prefered to be called Ukrainians to distance themselves from Muscovite Rus. Kremlin not only has stolen a history, but it is also concealing the truth about events.
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Note that I said nothing of toponim. Toponim "Ukraine" appeared first roughly around Khmelnitskiy's times in meaning "borderland". When exactly enthnonim "Ukrainians" appeared is unknown. At first the word had no ethnical connotation - only "people who live in Ukraine/at the border". Later it was used retrospectively.

People of this region who were slightly different in culture and language than other Russian people were called "Malorossians" (Small Russians) or "Rusins" (Ruthenians). There was some difference between them too: Malorossians lived on the lands of Russian Empire, Rusins - on Austrian lands (modern Zakarpatskaya obast, or Ruthenia).

In general slight difference between "Great" (Velikorossi), "Small" (Malorossi) and "White" (Belorussi) Russians originated from diffrent history. "Great" Russia was conquered by Golden Horde and ruled by it for several centuries. Principiality of Moscow then managed to unite this lands and oppose the Horde. "White" Russia was relatively safe from the Horde, creating Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It entered the union with Poland, creating Polish Commonwealth, but keeping wide authonomy in it. "Small" Russia was devastated by mongols. It was at first annexed by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but after the union with Poland transferred under direct rule from the Crown. That's why there's three Russias:
"Great" Russia with strong centralising core and under influence of Eastern culture paradigms.
"White" Russia with weak centralising power and under slight Polish influence.
"Small" Russia with next to nothing centralising power and under strong Polish influence.

And - before you begin to talk about "Velikorussian elitism" - "Velikorossi" and "Malorossi" are historical terms with slightly different meanigs than what it's percieved now. "Small" had a mening of "core". "Great" - of distant provinces. Just like Constantinople was "Small Bysantium" while the whole Eastern Roman Empire was "Great Bysantium". If you want to blame someone for Moscow being the current centre of power in the region, blame Tartars of Golden Horde who made most people abandon southern principialities in 13th century.
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This is only with Russian imperialist Ukraine appears in a meaning of a "borderline". If you check ancient maps, you would find out that Ukraine was never a borderline. The names “Ukraine”, “Ukrainia” always designated a territory, lands. Don’t mix Ukraina with your “Okraina” which shows up on some maps to name lands in a desert somewhere near Astrakhan or even further. Depending on age of these maps on some of them Ukraine shows up together with “Russia Rubra” (Red Russia) and “Russia Haute et Basse” (Volhynia and Podolia), or as a part of “Russia Rubra”, on others – as a State of Cossacks (in French “Ukraine ou Pays des Cosaques” . A couple of maps of Sr. Beauplan even named “La Grande Ukraine”.

As for your other claims:

1). "Malorossians" (Small Russians) or "Rusins" (Ruthenians).

The name Ruteni or Rutheni appeared in the west in 11th century and used to call territories of actual Ukraine and Belarus, but not for states themselves. Thus, Ruthenians were habitants of actual Ukraine and Belarus. The states were Rus (Kievan Rus) and Polotsk principality. On the West Kievan Rus was called "Regnum Russiæ". Later Ruteni (Kievan Rus) became to be used to distingish it from Moskouitae (Moscovia). Since 16th century the name was used in Pontiff's and Rome documents for Eastern Rite Roman Catholics living on territories of actual Ukraine and Belarus. Malorusski derived from the name "Malaya Rossia" which in its turn derived from the name "Malaya Rus". Iinitially the names "Malaya Rus" (Mikra Rhosia) and "Velikaya Rus" (Megale Rhosia) were used in Byzantine Empire to define western (Galician) and central (Kievan) metropoles of Kievan Rus.

2). "Great" (Velikorossi), "Small" (Malorossi) and "White" (Belorussi)

To be exact in 16-18th centuries White Russia (Belaya Rus) was associated with Moscovia. BTW, there was also Black Russia which in middle of 17th century included areas of Chelm, Przemysl (Poland), Lvov to till nearly Ternopol, and further to south more or less till actual frontiers with Hungary and Moldova. So, in eyes of Europeans actual Russia was always Moscovia or White Russia, Moscovy, Russia Moscovitica or Grand Tartaria ! This confirms that Europeans wanted to distinguish Kievan Rus (Ruteni, Russia Rubra) from Moscovia (Rus Moscovitica). Actual Belarus was called The Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Litvania or Lithuania though from time to time some of its areas like Polotsk, Vitebsk, Orsha were also named White Russia (same with Galicia). Actual Belarus became fully-termed White Russia in 18th century only. However even till mid 20th century some citizens often indicated “Litvins” as their nationality. As for Russia Moscovitica, it proclaimed itself “Grand Russia” only after joining Ukrainian lands.

Frankly speaking I have already got tired to scotch myths of Russian imperialists. So, please, stop re-telling your fairy-tales here. Thank you in advance.
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PARIS ATTACK SUSPECTS ARRESTED, LIBERATION NEWSPAPER SAYS

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Achim Weinacker @AchimW · 9 Std. Vor 9 Stunden

Gestern tönte Poroschenko wie "sinnvoll" die EU Gelder ins Militär invertiert werden, heute wird vermeldet dass 450 mio $ gestohlen wurde.

(Yesterday, Poroshenko bragged how "useful" EU funds will be invested in the military, today it's announced that 450 million $ was stolen.)


So when our misleaders are telling us that Greece is a bottomless pit - I think we urgently need Ukraine in the EU. They are something indescribable, their behaviour has something ... naive ... not at all touched by morals and such crap. If we have them in the EU nobody will speak about Greece anymore.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Fuck Merkel.
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Achim Weinacker @AchimW · 9 Std. Vor 9 Stunden

Gestern tönte Poroschenko wie "sinnvoll" die EU Gelder ins Militär invertiert werden, heute wird vermeldet dass 450 mio $ gestohlen wurde.

(Yesterday, Poroshenko bragged how "useful" EU funds will be invested in the military, today it's announced that 450 million $ was stolen.)


So when our misleaders are telling us that Greece is a bottomless pit - I think we urgently need Ukraine in the EU. They are something indescribable, their behaviour has something ... naive ... not at all touched by morals and such crap. If we have them in the EU nobody will speak about Greece anymore.
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...and today Jazenjuk was in Berlin to get money to "rebuild" East Ukraine...
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Fuck Merkel.
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Achim Weinacker @AchimW · 9 Std. Vor 9 Stunden

Gestern tönte Poroschenko wie "sinnvoll" die EU Gelder ins Militär invertiert werden, heute wird vermeldet dass 450 mio $ gestohlen wurde.

(Yesterday, Poroshenko bragged how "useful" EU funds will be invested in the military, today it's announced that 450 million $ was stolen.)


So when our misleaders are telling us that Greece is a bottomless pit - I think we urgently need Ukraine in the EU. They are something indescribable, their behaviour has something ... naive ... not at all touched by morals and such crap. If we have them in the EU nobody will speak about Greece anymore.
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...and today Jazenjuk was in Berlin to get money to "rebuild" East Ukraine...
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Yeah, where are the terrorists when you need them.

/sarc
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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PARIS ATTACK SUSPECTS ARRESTED, LIBERATION NEWSPAPER SAYS


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WTF,now they are not arested but surounded.
Liberation messed up with the scenario!

This s... stinks to high heaven!
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Thread: BREAKING NOWWWW Terrorist attack in PARIS at Charlie Hebdo (comic magazine) (Page 69)

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btw, you are also implying all those who disagree with the NWO are subhumans, since you have the urge to use the dehumanizing term "putlerbots"
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Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
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btw, you are also implying all those who disagree with the NWO are subhumans, since you have the urge to use the dehumanizing term "putlerbots"
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


feedtroll
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btw, you are also implying all those who disagree with the NWO are subhumans, since you have the urge to use the dehumanizing term "putlerbots"
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
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btw, you are also implying all those who disagree with the NWO are subhumans, since you have the urge to use the dehumanizing term "putlerbots"
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


:feedtroll
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answer the question dumbass.


Why do you agree with porky and yats that ethnic russians are subhuman?

it's a very easy question and relevant to the discussion (not trolling)

Ukrainian MP proposes life sentence for dissidence

Dmytro Tymchuk, the Verkhovna Rada speaker from the People’s Front party, has demanded that punishment be toughened for dissent with the current authorities.

Tymchuk wants to see the lower and middle terms of imprisonment raised for separatism and its funding, and mandatory confiscation of property introduced for those convicted under this article.

In addition, his draft law stipulates introducing life imprisonment for treason.

<50% [link to en.ukraina.ru]

ETA: that seems lenient imo, in the USA they plan to throw dissidents in a ditch and shoot them. Either that or "re-education", starting once WW3 begins or shortly thereafter?


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btw, you are also implying all those who disagree with the NWO are subhumans, since you have the urge to use the dehumanizing term "putlerbots"
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
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I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling ethnic russians that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?

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Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Hey, rts, stay calm. That poor guy don't know what porky and yats means, he thinks it's a name for the Ukrainians. Maybe he'sfallen from a tree or crowled from under a rock an hour ago.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
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Hey, rts, stay calm. That poor guy don't know what porky and yats means, he thinks it's a name for the Ukrainians. Maybe he'sfallen from a tree or crowled from under a rock an hour ago.
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yea..I was sort of wondering what he meant by that.

thanks for the clarification. hf
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Says the troll who calls those who disagree with him dumbasses and retards.
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that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

I don't ...
But why low words of some diabetes apostle have to make your day agenda..?...If you act like this....russians good/ ukranians bad...there good and bad people on each side..you loose .."NWO" wins.
I hope one day you will see that SLAVIC people where placed on NATO "anvil" for reasons unknown to me and guess hwo gets to be a person holding HAMMER.....nope..... poroshok..yacenuk...turchinov... kolooyskij is just characoals to fuel the FIRE...please understand that all of them together..nothing....they .CANT hold in place an ANVIL or RAISE the HAMMER to smash ukraine..okraina..malorosia..kievan rus...small russ...what ever you want to call that place...
Do you know who holds the HAMMER?

Do you understand who OWNS blacksmith shop ?
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that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Hey, rts, stay calm. That poor guy don't know what porky and yats means, he thinks it's a name for the Ukrainians. Maybe he'sfallen from a tree or crowled from under a rock an hour ago.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante



Use simple logic...I have life and cant live here 24/7.....like you.
As for porky and yats .....Using derogatory names at other people..does it makes you better then them ? Maybe you got off your tree to early ?
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that's different then considering innocent people subhuman and then killing them dumbass.

why do you agree with that?
(porky and yats considering ethnic russians to be subhuman)

btw..that's exactly what the NWO has in store for dissenters, but that's a-ok in your book huh
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

I don't ...
But why low words of some diabetes apostle have to make your day agenda..?...If you act like this....russians good/ ukranians bad...there good and bad people on each side..you loose .."NWO" wins.
I hope one day you will see that SLAVIC people where placed on NATO "anvil" for reasons unknown to me and guess hwo gets to be a person holding HAMMER.....nope..... poroshok..yacenuk...turchinov... kolooyskij is just characoals to fuel the FIRE...please understand that all of them together..nothing....they .CANT hold in place an ANVIL or RAISE the HAMMER to smash ukraine..okraina..malorosia..kievan rus...sYatsenyukmall russ...what ever you want to call that place...
Do you know who holds the HAMMER?Yatsenyuk

Do you understand who OWNS blacksmith shop ?
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I have no clue what you're trying to say, but if you're claiming that porky and yats aren't part of the agenda and are innocent, you are wrong.

Agenda 21 is global statist government directed by the luciferian priests of Rome and billionaires of the SMOM.

that is their goal.

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You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.oligarch

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Hey, rts, stay calm. That poor guy don't know what porky and yats means, he thinks it's a name for the Ukrainians. Maybe he'sfallen from a tree or crowled from under a rock an hour ago.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante



Use simple logic...I have life and cant live here 24/7.....like you.
As for porky and yats .....Using derogatory names at other people..does it makes you better then them ? Maybe you got off your tree to early ?
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porky is a GENOCIDAL NAZI oligarch that deserves ZERO respect.

and yats is short for Yatsenyuk which isn't even derogatory.

even Nuland calls him yats.
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What?
Russia and f.Ukraine were the parts of one country more time than otherwise. From before 10th century till Mongols and from Khmelnitskiy till Gorbachov. In a thousand years of written history you'll find 400 years of f.Ukraine being separate from Russia - at most.

Galicia is completely separate story, yeah. But that's the minority of population. Even if their variaton of language is being forced as state one, it doesn't mean that they are "true" Ukrainians. Hell, this ethnonim appeared only in 19th century.
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All claims that ethnonim "Ukrainians" appeared in 19th only (or even in 20th century) are not true. Same as your claim on term "Kievian Rus". This is just a part of Russian policy to belittle the importance of Ukraine in history of Russian & Soviet Empires, and Russia is implementing this policy since long years.

In his "Boris Godunov" (1825), "Poltava" (1828), "An Outline of History of Ukraine" (app.1830-1833) Pushikin used "Ukraine", "Ukrainians" when describing events of 16-18 centuries. It means that ethnonim was known before 19th century. This is also confirmed by numerous maps of 17th century. Before 17th century Ukraine was simply "Rus", but people of Kievan Rus prefered to be called Ukrainians to distance themselves from Muscovite Rus. Kremlin not only has stolen a history, but it is also concealing the truth about events.
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Note that I said nothing of toponim. Toponim "Ukraine" appeared first roughly around Khmelnitskiy's times in meaning "borderland". When exactly enthnonim "Ukrainians" appeared is unknown. At first the word had no ethnical connotation - only "people who live in Ukraine/at the border". Later it was used retrospectively.
People of this region who were slightly different in culture and language than other Russian people were called "Malorossians" (Small Russians) or "Rusins" (Ruthenians). There was some difference between them too: Malorossians lived on the lands of Russian Empire, Rusins - on Austrian lands (modern Zakarpatskaya obast, or Ruthenia).
In general slight difference between "Great" (Velikorossi), "Small" (Malorossi) and "White" (Belorussi) Russians originated from diffrent history. "Great" Russia was conquered by Golden Horde and ruled by it for several centuries. Principiality of Moscow then managed to unite this lands and oppose the Horde. "White" Russia was relatively safe from the Horde, creating Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It entered the union with Poland, creating Polish Commonwealth, but keeping wide authonomy in it. "Small" Russia was devastated by mongols. It was at first annexed by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but after the union with Poland transferred under direct rule from the Crown. That's why there's three Russias:
"Great" Russia with strong centralising core and under influence of Eastern culture paradigms.
"White" Russia with weak centralising power and under slight Polish influence.
"Small" Russia with next to nothing centralising power and under strong Polish influence.

And - before you begin to talk about "Velikorussian elitism" - "Velikorossi" and "Malorossi" are historical terms with slightly different meanigs than what it's percieved now. "Small" had a mening of "core". "Great" - of distant provinces. Just like Constantinople was "Small Bysantium" while the whole Eastern Roman Empire was "Great Bysantium". If you want to blame someone for Moscow being the current centre of power in the region, blame Tartars of Golden Horde who made most people abandon southern principialities in 13th century.
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These names were only invented artificially during the 18th or 19th century.

Rusins live in Trans-Carpathian Rus.

There were originally three Ruses:


White Rus = Eastern Belarus

Red Rus = Trans-Carpathian Rus and some areas directly to the north.

Black Rus = Western Belarus


Contrary to what is claimed, the Red Rus has nothing to do with south-eastern Poland.

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These "color" designations are Iranian in origin, like the White/Red/Black Croatia.

The Rus were from the ancient Iranian Rosomoni.
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"Iranian", you say? Follower of Aryan theory then? Well, that explains everything and removes the need to think of the answer on the rest.

One question - if those names were "artifically invented" in 19th century, then why did Alexey Mihaylovich "The Most Silent" Romanov (father of Peter the Great, 17th century) had "Czar and Great Prince of Great, Small and White Russia" in his full royal title?
Well yeah, and I didn't say anything about Ruthenia and Poland. Didn't you read? It was under Austrian rule.

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You go bonkers for calling russians subhumans but calling ukrainians porky and yats what ever it means is fine ?
So by your book you should be ok I can call you Zodopepik?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I don't really give a shit what you call me.

The president and PM calling russian citizens that have lived in that country their entire lives "subhuman" is entirely different.

why do you agree?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

I don't ...
But why low words of some diabetes apostle have to make your day agenda..?...If you act like this....russians good/ ukranians bad...there good and bad people on each side..you loose .."NWO" wins.
I hope one day you will see that SLAVIC people where placed on NATO "anvil" for reasons unknown to me and guess hwo gets to be a person holding HAMMER.....nope..... poroshok..yacenuk...turchinov... kolooyskij is just characoals to fuel the FIRE...please understand that all of them together..nothing....they .CANT hold in place an ANVIL or RAISE the HAMMER to smash ukraine..okraina..malorosia..kievan rus...small russ...what ever you want to call that place...
Do you know who holds the HAMMER?

Do you understand who OWNS blacksmith shop ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47689389


I have no clue what you're trying to say, but if you're claiming that porky and yats aren't part of the agenda and are innocent, you are wrong.

Agenda 21 is global statist government under the luciferian priests of Rome and billionaires of the SMOM.

that is their goal.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Im trying to say VP is puppet ether he likes it or not.....
No matter what he wants...or what he does.......


Thanks for mentioning Agenda 21.....what is your take on this ?





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