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Turkey is the wildcard in this game and it looks like it goes against Russia!
Thread: BREAKING - Turkey Scrambles 8 Jets to Intercept RUSSIAN Plane!
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They did prepared half a year ago....
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That was few days ago I believe. It was Russian spy plane that flew above Turkish Black sea coast.
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@L0gg0l: UKRAINE COURT ISSUES ARREST ORDER FOR CRIMEA PM AKSENOV
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Sky News Newsdesk &#8207;@SkyNewsBreak 6s
Sergei Lavrov says after meeting John Kerry that they agreed #Ukraine Govt and opposition need to stick to February's EU peace deal



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Fallout of the tape leak? SBSU I LOVE YOU!
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Watching this right now

[link to rutube.ru]

"Detailed analysis of shooting at unarmed maidan activists"

Don't know what it's worth
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Wow this video is very telling.
Who needs a leaked phone call when you see theses bullets impacts coming from the back?

This is all staged
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Sky News Newsdesk &#8207;@SkyNewsBreak 6s
Sergei Lavrov says after meeting John Kerry that they agreed #Ukraine Govt and opposition need to stick to February's EU peace deal



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Doom officially over then
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There isn't any future in fighting a past war.
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
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It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
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at the request of the duly elected president of ukraine, remember
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No, he didn't.

The letter is from March 1st while Russian forces (Unmarked) were already in days earlier.

NOT TO MENTION he does not have the right to do that! If Obama asked Chinese forces to aid a situation in the US, imagine how many people would yell how unconstitutional it is here? The Ukrainian president can't just request foreign troops into his country.
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It begins: #Ukraine crisis is forcing Sweden to again think seriously about defense, says DepPM Jan Björklund [link to www.dn.se] …





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Björklund: "A shift in doctrine is needed. We must again say that defending Sweden is the main duty of the Swedish defense."
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Even better:

"Kiev may evict Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol and purge Crimea of any Russian influence. Ukraine could easily become a radicalized, anti-Russian state, at which point Kiev will fabricate a pretext to justify taking subversive action against Moscow."

:tomlaugh2:
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And what's so funny? You think that's a joke?

There's loads of evidence who was behind the "uprising" in Ukraine and lots of stuff happened last year. Funny is only people who come in just now and think they know what's really going on. I've been watching this since last November and I've been MYSELF through similar things the last 3 years. So the fact that Russia is being surrounded and another attempt was done to get the Russians out of Crimea and you think that's crazy, maybe look at a map, and start reading from last year what was said and how the whole thing blew up into this.
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:tomcrazy1:
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You've just launched two Cruise missiles, do you want to start ww3 on glp?
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Even better:

"Kiev may evict Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol and purge Crimea of any Russian influence. Ukraine could easily become a radicalized, anti-Russian state, at which point Kiev will fabricate a pretext to justify taking subversive action against Moscow."

tomlaugh2
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And what's so funny? You think that's a joke?

There's loads of evidence who was behind the "uprising" in Ukraine and lots of stuff happened last year. Funny is only people who come in just now and think they know what's really going on. I've been watching this since last November and I've been MYSELF through similar things the last 3 years. So the fact that Russia is being surrounded and another attempt was done to get the Russians out of Crimea and you think that's crazy, maybe look at a map, and start reading from last year what was said and how the whole thing blew up into this.
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tomcrazy1
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You've just launched two Cruise missiles, do you want to start ww3 on glp?
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cruise2
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Not to mention a good part of western UA belongs to Poland. City of Lviv and so on. Poles expected to get it after WW2 but Stalin gave it to UA instead.

Original UA borders and its history:

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
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There isn't any future in fighting a past war.
 Quoting: pool


There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


There was NO INVASION, almost all the military was lawfully on the peninsula and the LEGAL PRESIDENT asked Russia for help. God, I give up .
another do
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There isn't any future in fighting a past war.
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


There was NO INVASION, almost all the military was lawfully on the peninsula and the LEGAL PRESIDENT asked Russia for help. God, I give up .
another do
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As I said before, they not only arrived before he asked for help, he has no permission to do so. You people are selectively choosing which facts to acknowledge.

Russian forces have sized several Ukrainian military bases. There's no legal justification for that, not even if the President did say pretty please. He's the president, not the King.
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Sky News Newsdesk &#8207;@SkyNewsBreak 6s
Sergei Lavrov says after meeting John Kerry that they agreed #Ukraine Govt and opposition need to stick to February's EU peace deal



DOOM OVER TIME TO SLEEP
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Doom officially over then
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nothing is officialy over, just obamas breakfast atm
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


at the request of the duly elected president of ukraine, remember
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16312875


No, he didn't.

The letter is from March 1st while Russian forces (Unmarked) were already in days earlier.

NOT TO MENTION he does not have the right to do that! If Obama asked Chinese forces to aid a situation in the US, imagine how many people would yell how unconstitutional it is here? The Ukrainian president can't just request foreign troops into his country.
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its moot, and not actually that important imo, there is the letter now and putin has authority to use his forces,
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NATO just bitchslapped Russia again. ICBM test in 3....2....1....
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Watching this right now

[link to rutube.ru]

"Detailed analysis of shooting at unarmed maidan activists"

Don't know what it's worth
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Wow this video is very telling.
Who needs a leaked phone call when you see theses bullets impacts coming from the back?

This is all staged
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Guys! Truth asked me to bump myself about this video that needs to be seen

[link to rutube.ru]

Plz someone embed this
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And what's so funny? You think that's a joke?

There's loads of evidence who was behind the "uprising" in Ukraine and lots of stuff happened last year. Funny is only people who come in just now and think they know what's really going on. I've been watching this since last November and I've been MYSELF through similar things the last 3 years. So the fact that Russia is being surrounded and another attempt was done to get the Russians out of Crimea and you think that's crazy, maybe look at a map, and start reading from last year what was said and how the whole thing blew up into this.
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tomcrazy1
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You've just launched two Cruise missiles, do you want to start ww3 on glp?
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cruise2
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


There was NO INVASION, almost all the military was lawfully on the peninsula and the LEGAL PRESIDENT asked Russia for help. God, I give up .
another do
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


As I said before, they not only arrived before he asked for help, he has no permission to do so. You people are selectively choosing which facts to acknowledge.

Russian forces have sized several Ukrainian military bases. There's no legal justification for that, not even if the President did say pretty please. He's the president, not the King.
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Ukranians were taking orders from the wrong leaders. They are correcting that.
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Sky News Newsdesk &#8207;@SkyNewsBreak 6s
Sergei Lavrov says after meeting John Kerry that they agreed #Ukraine Govt and opposition need to stick to February's EU peace deal



DOOM OVER TIME TO SLEEP
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Fallout of the tape leak? SBSU I LOVE YOU!
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If you rewind, the agreement basically was the President Yanukovich along with EU countries and Russia signed off he basically gave into Protesters demands, coalition government, early election bla bla bla. But what happened? The Rada said they will investigate about the snipers, that bullets were the same pulled out from police and protesters, that was medical examiner evidence. Then Yanukovich goes to a conference in Kharkiv (remember when everyone was watching a plane saying he is fleeing the country?) - in that time is when the armed gangs came and killed people, threatened lawmakers and took the power by force. They were going to kill the President too.
Basically all this what Putin said yesterday is true and what really happened. All went nuts after they were going to investigate etc. None of this mess would have happened if they would have stuck to the agreement.
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NATO just bitchslapped Russia again. ICBM test in 3....2....1....
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Say what????

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Lavrov, Kerry agree to help Ukrainians implement Feb 21 agreement

Russia March 05, 22:30 UTC+4
PARIS, March 05, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry agreed that Ukraine needs assistance in implementing the February 21 agreement reached by the opposition and the authorities.

“We agreed that we should help Ukraine implement the agreement of February 21,” Lavrov said after a meeting with Kerry in Paris on Wednesday, March 5. “We have just held a meeting with John Kerry on the situation in Ukraine and the steps our partners are trying to take through the OSCE, the Russia-NATO Council and other international organisations; steps that do not help create an atmosphere of dialogue. John Kerry agreed that such atmosphere needs to be created. It’s very hard to make honest agreements that will help the Ukrainian people stabilise the situation in an atmosphere of threats and ultimatums,” the minister said.
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I think there's a huge difference between if Russian forces arrived before there was any appeal for help, and after. If it's the former then he invaded a country with no legal justification for it. Which is why everyone is against him here.

You don't need to like the governments of NATO or in Kiev to realize that Russia is completely wrong here. This is a simple grab to try and protect the Eurasian Union that Putin has been trying to set up for Years, that a Pro-russian Ukraine was a big part of.
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NATO just bitchslapped Russia again. ICBM test in 3....2....1....
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Say what????

Take care
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NATO just had a press conference and announced some sanctions
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
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at the request of the duly elected president of ukraine, remember
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No, he didn't.

The letter is from March 1st while Russian forces (Unmarked) were already in days earlier.

NOT TO MENTION he does not have the right to do that! If Obama asked Chinese forces to aid a situation in the US, imagine how many people would yell how unconstitutional it is here? The Ukrainian president can't just request foreign troops into his country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


Actually the situation in Crimea is the troops are there legally and can leave base. I'm not sure on limitations of leaving base but for sure Ukraine can let them all leave.

It is possible you can come up with some technical issues (not put in writing soon enough or what-not) but in the end the President is happy with what has happened, the people of Crimea are happy with what has happened, nobody has died or even been seriously hurt. Yes you can make some nit-picks here and there but nothing of real substance.

Now contrast this with all the bullshit US/NATO do in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc., how many they kill and they don't have permission of president and the local population definitely does mind.
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NATO just bitchslapped Russia again. ICBM test in 3....2....1....
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Say what????

Take care
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NATO just had a press conference and announced some sanctions
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Lavrov, Kerry agree to help Ukrainians implement Feb 21 agreement

Russia March 05, 22:30 UTC+4
PARIS, March 05, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry agreed that Ukraine needs assistance in implementing the February 21 agreement reached by the opposition and the authorities.

“We agreed that we should help Ukraine implement the agreement of February 21,” Lavrov said after a meeting with Kerry in Paris on Wednesday, March 5. “We have just held a meeting with John Kerry on the situation in Ukraine and the steps our partners are trying to take through the OSCE, the Russia-NATO Council and other international organisations; steps that do not help create an atmosphere of dialogue. John Kerry agreed that such atmosphere needs to be created. It’s very hard to make honest agreements that will help the Ukrainian people stabilise the situation in an atmosphere of threats and ultimatums,” the minister said.
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If that is sincere, then we are back on track to end this diplomatically. They better call their bloodhounds back too.
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BTW

REU: ABOUT 100 PRO-RUSSIA PROTESTERS MARCH ON HQ OF OSCE OBSERVERS IN UKRAINE’S CRIMEA, TRY TO BLOCK IT - REUTERS PHOTOGRAPHER

bumpbumpbump
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*this* is where WWIII is going to start, somebody (probably the CIA who are working for the Illuminati are going to order some rogue element to fire on these military observers and it will be declared an act of war..
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@L0gg0l: POLAND HOLDS RUSSIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY OF POLISH CITIZENS, JOURNALISTS, SIKORSKY SAYS
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I think there's a huge difference between if Russian forces arrived before there was any appeal for help, and after. If it's the former then he invaded a country with no legal justification for it. Which is why everyone is against him here.

You don't need to like the governments of NATO or in Kiev to realize that Russia is completely wrong here. This is a simple grab to try and protect the Eurasian Union that Putin has been trying to set up for Years, that a Pro-russian Ukraine was a big part of.
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moot. and everything else that happened is of lesser importance than the russian invasion of crimea?
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Even better:

"Kiev may evict Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol and purge Crimea of any Russian influence. Ukraine could easily become a radicalized, anti-Russian state, at which point Kiev will fabricate a pretext to justify taking subversive action against Moscow."

tomlaugh2
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He is laughing because this is exactly what Putin wants him to say. Putin's soft (passive aggressive) support of the West's destabilization efforts upon Ukraine is evident, he is a superior opportunist and chess master.

KGB has been given a gift, and barely had to lift a finger. They could give the green light to very small #'s of well placed assets of their own who knew the lay of the political and civilian landscape in Ukraine. Just enough to tip the scales to "revolution".
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John Schindler&#8207;@20committee9 mins

First it was Poland, now Sweden. Across Europe, countries will throw off post-9/11 fantasies of failed COIN & readdress conventional threats





John Schindler&#8207;@20committee8 mins

Björklund also said that Russian conduct makes NATO membership more attractive 4 neutrals, and if Finland joins Sweden would likely also.





GLP