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Despite the sanctions, Putin's position within Russia seems secure [link to read.bi]


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You still don't get the argument? You are referring to some Slavic brotherhood yet you feel fine when the Russians get killed. Justifying it is pointless here if you consider Slavic nations to be a family. You just conveniently drop that point when the ones you don't support get whacked and it's disgusting.
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Fascist Ukrainians do not consider themselves to be Slavic, the same with Fascist Croats, they also do not consider themselves to be Slavic. That's why they always alligned themselves with Germanic peoples against their fellow Slavs, while Russians allign themselves with non-fascist Ukrainians against fascist Ukrainians and their Germanic (or American) allies
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Do you even know what the word "fascist" means? The Soviet Union was the definition of a fascist country.
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Fascism is all about state deciding about people's lives. And since you are in favor of expelling the civilians for the fact they don't fit your ideal society model, you are a big time fascist. The fact you're being a nazi (national socialist) is another thing...
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I am in favor of expelling these so called "civilians" not because they oppose the government but because they became separatists, in what is actually a foreign land for them.
The point is that they are Russians, they have no real business in the Ukraine. If they want to live there then they should respect the country at least.
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From VTsIOM, one of Russia's leading public opinion research companies:

Russia's territory came under accidental fire from Ukraine. What should Russian do in reponse (two answers possible)?

Seek diplomatic solution - 67%
Selective military response - 22%
Send troops to Ukraine - 11%
Do nothing - 5%
Other/dont know - 6%

Poll conducted 19-20 July.
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wow thats pathetic
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Or its a sign of hope. Imagine TBTB declaring WW and people on both sides says, FU dance
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Clearly Babay means that this is very disappointing because he is a bloodthirsty demon who wants war and suffering.
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Fascist Ukrainians do not consider themselves to be Slavic, the same with Fascist Croats, they also do not consider themselves to be Slavic. That's why they always alligned themselves with Germanic peoples against their fellow Slavs, while Russians allign themselves with non-fascist Ukrainians against fascist Ukrainians and their Germanic (or American) allies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49892184


Do you even know what the word "fascist" means? The Soviet Union was the definition of a fascist country.
 Quoting: Skizzy?


Fascism is all about state deciding about people's lives. And since you are in favor of expelling the civilians for the fact they don't fit your ideal society model, you are a big time fascist. The fact you're being a nazi (national socialist) is another thing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60877955


I am in favor of expelling these so called "civilians" not because they oppose the government but because they became separatists, in what is actually a foreign land for them.
The point is that they are Russians, they have no real business in the Ukraine. If they want to live there then they should respect the country at least.
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Youre a very sick basterd!!
Give no facts and only opinions!!
That is so misleading!!
Hope you wil be stopped!!
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I prefere you guys to calm down! peace
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I am totally calm as ever...

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Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Youre a very sick basterd!!
Give no facts and only opinions!!
That is so misleading!!
Hope you wil be stopped!!
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I prefere you guys to calm down! peace
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Youre right!! Luisport. We reported in the back times also on economic! We were buddies!!
I wil do my best for facts!! Not No assumptions and prejudices.
The truth!!
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 1 min.
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Combats in Saur-Mogila sector.
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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Does anybody knows what Nuland and ambassador are talking about from 1:56-2:32?
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managing klitchko as they didn't want him in a leading position.
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Yeah I got that. Its just, it sounded to me I lost some parts or dont know what they are talkin about. Thanx anyway..
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Fascist Ukrainians do not consider themselves to be Slavic, the same with Fascist Croats, they also do not consider themselves to be Slavic. That's why they always alligned themselves with Germanic peoples against their fellow Slavs, while Russians allign themselves with non-fascist Ukrainians against fascist Ukrainians and their Germanic (or American) allies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49892184


Do you even know what the word "fascist" means? The Soviet Union was the definition of a fascist country.
 Quoting: Skizzy?


Fascism is all about state deciding about people's lives. And since you are in favor of expelling the civilians for the fact they don't fit your ideal society model, you are a big time fascist. The fact you're being a nazi (national socialist) is another thing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60877955


I am in favor of expelling these so called "civilians" not because they oppose the government but because they became separatists, in what is actually a foreign land for them.
The point is that they are Russians, they have no real business in the Ukraine. If they want to live there then they should respect the country at least.
 Quoting: Skizzy?


I have a surprise for you: being Russian doesn't make one "belong" to Russia. Singaporeans are mainly Chinese, by the way.

Told you before: if a country uses hardcore military power on its citizens, there's something wrong with the country, not the people.
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WikiLeaks @wikileaks · 1h
ALERT: In the next few hours we will release an unprecedented national security super-injunction (secret gag order) involving four nations.


Wonder what this is all about
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MH17
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Stop it now...
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 28 sek.
Since July27 #Ukraine tried advance in Shakhtersk & Torez, but failed.
Towns and roads in this area are under control of NAF.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

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****Ukraine**** Senate Bill 2277 Isn’t Just about ‘Russian Aggression’ — It’s Also about Oil, Gas and Propaganda

The full name of Senate Bill 2277, introduced on May 1st, 2014, is “To prevent further Russian aggression toward Ukraine and other sovereign states in Europe and Eurasia, and for other purposes.” It starts out claiming to be about the Department of Defense creating “a strategic framework for U.S. security assistance and cooperation in Europe and Eurasia”.

Currently, the bill is listed on Congress.gov as having been read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. The bill’s full text can be found here.

As Paul Craig Roberts has pointed out, “Washington’s incessant lies alleging ‘Russian aggression’ have created Russian aggression out of thin air.”

So, for the purposes of this article, let’s go ahead and focus on the “for other purposes” part mentioned in the bill’s title.

This is the part that involves exploiting natural gas resources and inundating the former countries of the Soviet Union with American propaganda regarding the coming conflict on behalf of not just our government, but you, the American public.

It’s written right there in the bill.

Sections 305 and 306 — “Expediting natural gas exports” and “European and Eurasian energy independence” — discuss the exploitation and exploration of natural gas and oil resources by America’s private sector.


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Russia's nuts could have been cut off long ago if that were the Americans objective.
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I think you give too much credit to your neo cons and don't factor in their biggest weakness which is unbridled greed, which over rides even a pragmatic sense of survival.

You are trusting the same people to lead you rationally through a nuclear war crisis who are trying to destroy you and cull your numbers with waves of illegal immigration, chemtrails, GMO food, toxic vaccines, etc.

So don't expect me to tell you this will end well with a close call for Western soccer mom society. It won't
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You are a real beaut.
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Agreed! I like his style..hf
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#Ukraine Meanwhile the Ukrainian army attack it looks have lost the "momentum", ambushes, in some areas retreats, in others virtual stuck.
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Youre a very sick basterd!!
Give no facts and only opinions!!
That is so misleading!!
Hope you wil be stopped!!
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banhim5
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I prefere you guys to calm down! peace
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Youre right!! Luisport. We reported in the back times also on economic! We were buddies!!
I wil do my best for facts!! Not No assumptions and prejudices.
The truth!!
We are.
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At this time Lui. We are FUCKED! Hope it is lui!~
I was banned!! And maybe again!
urietiTry to give tranbsparant new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Must be not illegacal but the future!!
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Kiev forces fire ballistic missiles into E. Ukraine – CNN
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Kiev forces fire ballistic missiles into E. Ukraine – CNN
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B-but, it was the pro-russians! :( /Conflictreporter
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The bit about Africa would go along with one of my old threads. Afica Is and will be one of the worlds deciding battlefields

Thread: Forget Iran Look At Africa Iran Is A Diversion
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THx Anderson, I will have a look later hf

xxxK
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No problems by the looks of things Ukraine us pressing on further and faster then any of us anticipated, I have the feeling that us in Europe are going to be getting slapped hard very soon.
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i just got a hard on and came over everyone.... really....
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What is happening here?

Masked men, police..chants..

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Some kind of a lustration by Ukie thugs.
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You still don't get the argument? You are referring to some Slavic brotherhood yet you feel fine when the Russians get killed. Justifying it is pointless here if you consider Slavic nations to be a family. You just conveniently drop that point when the ones you don't support get whacked and it's disgusting.
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Fascist Ukrainians do not consider themselves to be Slavic, the same with Fascist Croats, they also do not consider themselves to be Slavic. That's why they always alligned themselves with Germanic peoples against their fellow Slavs, while Russians allign themselves with non-fascist Ukrainians against fascist Ukrainians and their Germanic (or American) allies
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Do you even know what the word "fascist" means? The Soviet Union was the definition of a fascist country.
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Fascism is all about state deciding about people's lives. And since you are in favor of expelling the civilians for the fact they don't fit your ideal society model, you are a big time fascist. The fact you're being a nazi (national socialist) is another thing...
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Sorry but you clearly don't even know what the hell are you talking about other than INSULT people calling them fascists or nazis. You have lost all the meaning of the words shouting words without any logic. Call people nazis or fascists is cool now? Come on, grow up.
The only "fascists" here, looking at history, are MAYBE the pro-russians at the border. Please go to read some history book, italian fascists were THE SAME of pro-russians today there. They thought to have the right to do what they want, using weapons, organizing an army, declaring their "supremacy", thinking that everything was italian was perfect, using their own militia and using all sort of propaganda insulting, beating and killing everyone else didn't have their opinion.

Btw, reading what people write here, i saw another thing. Pro-russians are the most arrogant, they can't even have a discussion without using insults or acting like kids. Why? Why are you so sure about your ideas? Why deny that what happened in crimea and in e ukraine clearly show that russia has its role in all this facts? WHY?
Defending a state (that is not even yours, lol) with so much arrogance is just "strange". Everyone has its ideas and preferences, but i think (and its my OPINION) that most of pro-russians here and everywhere are just too much SURE about EVERYTHING.

Sorry Luis but i can't look how much those people insulted the estonian without ANYONE said nothing, and please, don't let people using words like fascist or nazis like that, we both know how those words was and are painful for our lands. Sorry again.
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Business Insider @businessinsider · 17 seg

TED CRUZ CHANNELS REAGAN: 'Mr. Putin, Give Back Crimea' [link to read.bi]


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Has Cruz put on the beanie and visited the Wailing Wall?

For kicks let me google Ted Cruz and Wailing Wall.

Yep. There it is 2013

"A week after taking office, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz headed to Israel on an unannounced congressional delegation trip, led by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky."
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propoganda you dumbfuks
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Looks real and that constitutes a 'warcrime', but that is easily ignored when it doesn't fit in ones mindset.....
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If you imply that Tunguska is responsible for downing of MH-17, then you are wrong, since maximum engagement altitude for 9K22 is 4,000 m.
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I did not imply that! If you followed the actual conversations I was having at that time, you'd have known that. Stop taking quotes out of context to spread your lies. If you paid any real attention to the conversations taking place,, you'd have also remembered that I hold Kiev/US responsible for MH-17!
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Still this tunguska is supposed to be hiden in Donetsk sports arena. Thats not residential building. And I read conversations carefully. I was out all day and had to read 20+ pages. It took me last 3 hours to finish. I also watch most of the videos. So, I probably pay the most attention here ;)
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17 hostages were released from militants - Petro Poroshenko


President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko met with mothers and women of the military, who were held captive by militants in Gorlivka. During a successful operation 17 hostages were released, and today arrived to Kyiv.

Telling the women happy news, the President said: «We are struggling to ensure that all Ukrainians who are held captive by bandits and terrorists are released. Despite the fact that these fiends are practicing inhuman tortures against our men, our soldiers have a very strong spirit and stand these tests with honour».

The President informed that the operation of the liberation of the hostages was on his personal control and was marked as «secret», as any extra information could have affected the release of prisoners. That's why the wives and mothers were reported about the fate of their loved ones only after the final completion of all actions to liberate the Ukrainian military. «I promised you to work on this 24 hours a day. And despite the fact that we are having a very difficult situation now, life and health of every Ukrainian citizen is a priority for me", said Head of State.

«Ukraine is proud of the courage with which you were holding on. And you can be proud of your loved ones, of how they believed in your return and fought for you», said he referring to the liberated Ukrainian military.

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nevermind
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Here are the wiki leak news:

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Youre a very sick basterd!!
Give no facts and only opinions!!
That is so misleading!!
Hope you wil be stopped!!
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banhim5
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I prefere you guys to calm down! peace
 Quoting: Luisport


I am totally calm as ever...

cheers
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Busted tjech!! Go on with harm the west!!
Everyone must chosse sides!!
Better then live in the past!
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Now what the hell has to do a religion with all this story?
Lol i can stand an ideology and something like that, but resume that awful religion stuff AGAIN proof that something in humanity is wrong.
Changing "jew" with "zionist" isn't difficult, come on..





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