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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Surkov say, that western know that plane was shot down by Ukraine, but not recognise this never, so it is suicide for himself would be:
[link to sovpl.forum24.ru]

Text in Russian.
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
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no, they didn't
the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you
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Molest those bodies......really?

Those bodies are soup. They had to get them into a refrigerated place and then they need a place (refrigerated) large enough to store them. It's a freaking war zone.
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For a while it stumped my as to why the Russian separatist would bring the bodies deeper into rebel controlled territory into a city where fighting was going on…

Then it dawned on me.

They are going to dispose of them by putting them in one place then provoking an attack on that place by an outside force.

They are going to put them in a building, then put a missile battery on the top and start firing at things. When the retaliatory strike comes to destroy the battery, then they will go..

“Sorry, but you just destroyed all the bodies, there is nothing to return now.”
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That is just silly. The rebels have enough of a public relations thing going on without resorting to stupidity.
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They are living in an echo chamber.
They have been listening to their own propaganda too long.
Otherwise known as eating your own BS, which has caused them to come detached from reality..

They truly don’t comprehend how their actions are being perceived by people outside of their sphere of influence.

Because of that simple fact, I would not put anything past them.

If it did happen, then the propaganda system would just tell them they did a valiant effort in defending the bodies, but the Nazis were evidently intent on destroying the evidence from where they destroyed the plane.
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
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It is made from more than one part to be operational. I think it was known that they had some parts of it, but not a operational system.
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
 Quoting: Midlight


If you SAM systen not operative, so you can have this system, but can not fire from. So can not shot down plane.
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
 Quoting: Midlight


no, they didn't
the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you
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Oh so this is the BUK they were bragging about in their tweets and VK posts?
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The bodies will not tell who did this. The radar will. Notice any radar showing what happened circulating? No, you won't. The west is saying they have proof, Ukraine is saying they have proof. Where is it?
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Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion #A30B equipped with American and British kit - shows exactly who's funding them... #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/lwoL6DsRsn
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VIDEO the results of #Ukraine army GRAD attack on #Luhansk city -residential areas. #UN #Russia #cdnpoli [link to youtu.be] via @YouTube


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The bodies will not tell who did this. The radar will. Notice any radar showing what happened circulating? No, you won't. The west is saying they have proof, Ukraine is saying they have proof. Where is it?
 Quoting: steelseries


This.

Zero proof.

If they show the radar and satellite images it will show the Ukrainian army shot the plane down.
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Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion #A30B equipped with American and British kit - shows exactly who's funding them... #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/lwoL6DsRsn
[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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All of them will die. As their fellows did already...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
 Quoting: Midlight


no, they didn't
the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60489190


Oh so this is the BUK they were bragging about in their tweets and VK posts?
 Quoting: Midlight


Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces
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The bodies will not tell who did this. The radar will. Notice any radar showing what happened circulating? No, you won't. The west is saying they have proof, Ukraine is saying they have proof. Where is it?
 Quoting: steelseries


This.

Zero proof.

If they show the radar and satellite images it will show the Ukrainian army shot the plane down.
 Quoting: PIR


Just like when the US said they had proof that Russian military was in Ukraine so Russia demanded the proof and the US withdrew the allegations...

Same song...different day.
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Surkov say, that western know that plane was shot down by Ukraine, but not recognise this never, so it is suicide for himself would be:
[link to sovpl.forum24.ru]

Text in Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60485602


All military experts specializing on shooting planes on high altitude know this.

In order to shoot down at least one Malaysian Boeing, militias would need an armada of at least ten machines, and in the video under Snezny we see two settings of JMA. To shoot down the target of enemy on a distance more than ten kilometers away you will need only exceptionally regular army, with its named above amount of equipment and weapons!

It is undeniable proof that self defense forces were simply framed by hoping on incompetence of investigators.
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The bodies will not tell who did this. The radar will. Notice any radar showing what happened circulating? No, you won't. The west is saying they have proof, Ukraine is saying they have proof. Where is it?
 Quoting: steelseries


This.

Zero proof.

If they show the radar and satellite images it will show the Ukrainian army shot the plane down.
 Quoting: PIR


What Russia is waiting for?

It sick to watch and here these brainwashing on MSM and all the lies

Just heard how separatists are 'hidding' bodies in freezer wagons!?!

Where the hell should they put them? To burry them all on the field or what? gaah
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Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion #A30B equipped with American and British kit - shows exactly who's funding them... #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/lwoL6DsRsn
[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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All of them will die. As their fellows did already...
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May be there is still some time to stop this madness. Who's paying them? Their governments?
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Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa 7m

Donetsk Republic offers to pass their only BUK ( in their claim, inoperative) to commission investigating #MH17 Check! KIEV TURN.
 Quoting: steelseries

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
 Quoting: Midlight


no, they didn't
the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60489190


They say they do have one, then they say they have one but it’s inoperative, then they say they don’t have one at all, then they say they have one again but it’s inoperative.

And if you question which version of the story they are pushing now, then the propagandist attacks you for being stupid. And that everyone knows it’s (what their saying now) and anyone that questions it is stupid.

I can’t believe I am seeing George Orwell 1984 in real life.

1984

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Rutten press conference will start any minute, live here:

[link to nos.nl]
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...

Hm. Didn't the say earlier they didn't have any BUK missile systems? That they didn't have any apparatuses that could hit a plane at 32000 feet? This reeks.
 Quoting: Midlight


no, they didn't
the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60489190


Oh so this is the BUK they were bragging about in their tweets and VK posts?
 Quoting: Midlight


Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Well I don't think it's strange to assume there are army trained people among the anti-Kiev rebels. Earlier in the war a lot of Ukrainians defected to the East. So I think there will also be a number of people among them who know how to operate an SA-11.
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PM Rutte now speaking.

Uninteresting; only giving a carefully worded summary of what has happened the past day.
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Surkov say, that western know that plane was shot down by Ukraine, but not recognise this never, so it is suicide for himself would be:
[link to sovpl.forum24.ru]

Text in Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60485602


All military experts specializing on shooting planes on high altitude know this.

In order to shoot down at least one Malaysian Boeing, militias would need an armada of at least ten machines, and in the video under Snezny we see two settings of JMA. To shoot down the target of enemy on a distance more than ten kilometers away you will need only exceptionally regular army, with its named above amount of equipment and weapons!

It is undeniable proof that self defense forces were simply framed by hoping on incompetence of investigators.
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hesright
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Business Insider @businessinsider · 22 seg

This Is What Kremlin Panic Looks Like — by @TheWarRoom_Tom [link to read.bi]

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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 43 seg

#BreakingRUMOR The Dutch government considers "strikes" in Russian invaders in #Ukraine.

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Per #rumint Russian AWACS A-50 flying over #Taganrog area, not far from SE #Ukraine border. @Missilito @cencio4

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Rutten press conference will start any minute, live here:

[link to nos.nl]
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More talk, no action....
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Dutch FM Timmermans now in New York to discuss with the UN security council about trying to get the bodies back.

No NATO involvement.
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Surkov say, that western know that plane was shot down by Ukraine, but not recognise this never, so it is suicide for himself would be:
[link to sovpl.forum24.ru]

Text in Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60485602


All military experts specializing on shooting planes on high altitude know this.

In order to shoot down at least one Malaysian Boeing, militias would need an armada of at least ten machines, and in the video under Snezny we see two settings of JMA. To shoot down the target of enemy on a distance more than ten kilometers away you will need only exceptionally regular army, with its named above amount of equipment and weapons!

It is undeniable proof that self defense forces were simply framed by hoping on incompetence of investigators.
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Um………. Let me get this right……. The Russians designed an anti aircraft system where you need 10 vehicles on hand at all times just to shoot down a single plane?

They were either the most incompetent weapons designers in the history of mankind, or the BS is getting so deep that a person can’t see straight anymore.

If that is the quality of Russian weapons, then we should invade Russia NOW!

It will be easier than Iraq.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 43 seg

#BreakingRUMOR The Dutch government considers "strikes" in Russian invaders in #Ukraine.


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