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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66117961  Slovenia12/17/2014 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia has no plans to annex war-torn eastern Ukraine, whose fate is for Ukrainians to decide, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15109183 "We are not suggesting federalization [of Ukraine], we're not suggesting autonomy," Lavrov said in an interview to France-24 television channel aired Tuesday. "It's for Ukrainians to decide," the minister said in an English-language interview. [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] So does this mean US State Dept employees might become heads in the Russian Duma next? It means there wont be any invasion as they keep repeating in Kremlin. Still, Kiev needs to beat the rebels who gonna be/are backed by Kremlin ;) If West wants UA, let they come and get it! Lets see what they flew in Dnepropetrovsk airport. NAF could care less for ruble, fight untill last man standing.  that's the spirit! if you are there, might I suggest getting filming equipment and do regular uploads here. bet you can turn it into a penny or two, maybe. but it will keep people from being swindled by all the liars out there. It will probably come here sooner or later, just that I wont be filming stuff, thats for sure. |
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 User ID: 66123012  Czechia12/17/2014 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 LOL Quoting: THE WATCHER 66141899 WAKE UP PEOPLE ! The change in the cuban policy to remove sanctions is aimed at the russian people. Crush russias economy pile on sanctions, wait till the russian people panic, which they are now. Then remove sanctions from cuba. They are trying to use cuba as an example eg look if we remove sanctions cuba will prosper a d the people will be happy. They are useing cuba to make the russian people revolt on putin and remove him from power so they to can have sanctions removed as well. ITS ALL A SHOW FOR RUSSIA....... Errr, yes....but NO! lolz Americans failed to force Cubans to overthrow the government due to sanctions in last 50 years. 50 FUCKING YEARS! Cubans, in Cuba. It is island. And it was literally isolated. And sanctions did not work. All, what they show now is that "Look, sanctions are useless. Sooner ro later we will back off. We tried and we faild. Game is over here and sometime will be over overthere." On the contrary, it is a huge stimulant - stay strong as Cubans and Americans will lose again. Cuba was really just a nuisance America didn't really want to get to involved with them once things cooled off a bit with everything. They don't have anything except bananas and cigars. They have excellent rum for example!  “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 66123012 Czechia12/17/2014 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Reuters Business ‏@ReutersBiz 4 min. Sony says it canceled release of 'The Interview' in light of the decision by the majority theaters not to show the film #breaking  “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65700688  United States12/17/2014 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688 Wait how is that even possible? Wouldn't that make Ukraine then a new state for us? The Russia Sanctions bill that passed “unanimously,” with no scheduled debate, at 10:23:55 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2014, includes: 1. Sanctions of Russia’s energy industry, including Rosoboronexport and Gazprom. 2. Sanctions of Russia’s defense industry, with respect to arms sales to Syria. 3. Broad sanctions on Russians’ banking and investments. 4. Provisions for privatization of Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, oil, gas and renewables, with the help of the World Bank and USAID. 5. Fifty million dollars to assist in a corporate takeover of Ukraine’s oil and gas sectors. 6. Three hundred and fifty million dollars for military assistance to Ukraine, including anti-tank, anti-armor, optical, and guidance and control equipment, as well as drones. 7. Thirty million dollars for an intensive radio, television and Internet propaganda campaign throughout the countries of the former Soviet Union. 8. Twenty million dollars for “democratic organizing” in Ukraine. 9. Sixty million dollars, spent through groups like the National Endowment for Democracy, “to improve democratic governance, and transparency, accountability [and] rule of law” in Russia. What brilliant hyperbole to pass such a provision the same week the Senate’s CIA torture report was released. 10. An unverified declaration that Russia has violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, is a nuclear “threat to the United States” and should be held “accountable.” 11. A path for the U.S. withdrawal from the INF Treaty, which went into force in 1988. The implications of this are immense. An entire series of arms agreements are at risk of unraveling. It may not be long before NATO pushes its newest client state, Ukraine, to abrogate the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which Ukraine signed when it gave up its nuclear weapons, and establish a renewed nuclear missile capability, 300 miles from Moscow. 12. A demand that Russia verifiably dismantle “any ground launched cruise missiles or ballistic missiles with a range of between 500 and 5,500 kilometers ...”—i.e., 300 and 3,300 miles. Read the legislation, which Congress apparently didn’t. As reported on GlobalSecurity.org, earlier that same day in Kiev, the Ukrainian parliament approved a security plan that will: 1. Declare that Ukraine should become a “military state.” 2. Reallocate more of its approved 2014 budget for military purposes. 3. Put all military operating units on alert. 4. Mobilize military and national guard units. 5. Increase military spending in Ukraine from 1 percent of GDP to 5 percent, increasing military spending by $3 billion over the next few years. 6. Join NATO and switch to NATO military standards. more: [link to www.truthdig.com] Wait wait wait, hold up did this thing pass?! number 6 I mean Ukraine joined NATO!? didn't Putin state if that happened that means war like as of this passage/minute?! Lol, it can't happen that fast, but yes, it passed. Oh boy, so to me at least, what do you think, with this especially is there any turning back now? |
| Böze_Tante
User ID: 66141411  Germany12/17/2014 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387  finally read and wish I didn't! I mean I won't put anything past them to do whatever psychopathic mass killing event to get what they want, but a nuke in the heart of Europe? You have got to be fucking kidding me, if they try to pin something like this on Russia, this would NEVER work.HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE - the huge amount of casualties, and considering the land being contaminated and what about the fallout! NO WAY they wouldn't do that. And would sheep swallow this one? If they don't, all hell would break loose there too. Loose loose scenario big time. I don't see that happening. Some dirty bomb going off somewhere like some US Politicians said/suggested in the US is more likely, also FF of course. They would totally trace the materials used to Russia and blame Putin on it. At this point, when there's a blizzard going through the midwest, they blame Putin too. Interesting how you are okay with it going off in America, but you get very tensed if it happened in Europe, you sounded scared personally, but what if it's so bizarre that it's fail safe, and a sure tell thing to make Russia look as the bad guy, you know how much destabilization, and desensitization there would be you would have people feeding off of each other, complete chaos no one would trust anyone. Interesting how it is okay with Muricans to set the whole world on fire except their own country. Yes, we are scared by USA because you act as nice and intelligent as a T-rex. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15109183  Bulgaria12/17/2014 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15109183 The Russia Sanctions bill that passed “unanimously,” with no scheduled debate, at 10:23:55 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2014, includes: 1. Sanctions of Russia’s energy industry, including Rosoboronexport and Gazprom. 2. Sanctions of Russia’s defense industry, with respect to arms sales to Syria. 3. Broad sanctions on Russians’ banking and investments. 4. Provisions for privatization of Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, oil, gas and renewables, with the help of the World Bank and USAID. 5. Fifty million dollars to assist in a corporate takeover of Ukraine’s oil and gas sectors. 6. Three hundred and fifty million dollars for military assistance to Ukraine, including anti-tank, anti-armor, optical, and guidance and control equipment, as well as drones. 7. Thirty million dollars for an intensive radio, television and Internet propaganda campaign throughout the countries of the former Soviet Union. 8. Twenty million dollars for “democratic organizing” in Ukraine. 9. Sixty million dollars, spent through groups like the National Endowment for Democracy, “to improve democratic governance, and transparency, accountability [and] rule of law” in Russia. What brilliant hyperbole to pass such a provision the same week the Senate’s CIA torture report was released. 10. An unverified declaration that Russia has violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, is a nuclear “threat to the United States” and should be held “accountable.” 11. A path for the U.S. withdrawal from the INF Treaty, which went into force in 1988. The implications of this are immense. An entire series of arms agreements are at risk of unraveling. It may not be long before NATO pushes its newest client state, Ukraine, to abrogate the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which Ukraine signed when it gave up its nuclear weapons, and establish a renewed nuclear missile capability, 300 miles from Moscow. 12. A demand that Russia verifiably dismantle “any ground launched cruise missiles or ballistic missiles with a range of between 500 and 5,500 kilometers ...”—i.e., 300 and 3,300 miles. Read the legislation, which Congress apparently didn’t. As reported on GlobalSecurity.org, earlier that same day in Kiev, the Ukrainian parliament approved a security plan that will: 1. Declare that Ukraine should become a “military state.” 2. Reallocate more of its approved 2014 budget for military purposes. 3. Put all military operating units on alert. 4. Mobilize military and national guard units. 5. Increase military spending in Ukraine from 1 percent of GDP to 5 percent, increasing military spending by $3 billion over the next few years. 6. Join NATO and switch to NATO military standards. more: [link to www.truthdig.com] Wait wait wait, hold up did this thing pass?! number 6 I mean Ukraine joined NATO!? didn't Putin state if that happened that means war like as of this passage/minute?! Lol, it can't happen that fast, but yes, it passed. Oh boy, so to me at least, what do you think, with this especially is there any turning back now? I really have no idea. Things look pretty messy now. |
| Nuke68
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66150238 Germany12/17/2014 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ruble is falling, compared to the dollar or euro, maybe it will climb tommorrow or next week, i have lots of factors that arent speaking for Russia NOT going broke. Take a look onto gold, silver! ahahahaha! Tic TAC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66150238 Germany12/17/2014 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont see a panic in Russia, the customers are seeing the Ruble falling, so they are storming foreign (franchise) consumer markets, to get goods/technique at a ruble-level it makes sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66150238 Ruble is falling, compared to the dollar or euro, maybe it will climb tommorrow or next week, i have lots of factors that arent speaking for Russia NOT going broke. Take a look onto gold, silver! ahahahaha! Tic TAC ARE |
| DawaSatso
User ID: 64837930 United States12/17/2014 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 LOL Quoting: THE WATCHER 66141899 WAKE UP PEOPLE ! The change in the cuban policy to remove sanctions is aimed at the russian people. Crush russias economy pile on sanctions, wait till the russian people panic, which they are now. Then remove sanctions from cuba. They are trying to use cuba as an example eg look if we remove sanctions cuba will prosper a d the people will be happy. They are useing cuba to make the russian people revolt on putin and remove him from power so they to can have sanctions removed as well. ITS ALL A SHOW FOR RUSSIA....... Errr, yes....but NO! lolz Americans failed to force Cubans to overthrow the government due to sanctions in last 50 years. 50 FUCKING YEARS! Cubans, in Cuba. It is island. And it was literally isolated. And sanctions did not work. All, what they show now is that "Look, sanctions are useless. Sooner ro later we will back off. We tried and we faild. Game is over here and sometime will be over overthere." On the contrary, it is a huge stimulant - stay strong as Cubans and Americans will lose again. Cuba was really just a nuisance America didn't really want to get to involved with them once things cooled off a bit with everything. They don't have anything except bananas and cigars. U.s. Cuban military base. Hello. Bananas and cigars notwithstanding. |
| Böze_Tante
User ID: 66141411 Germany12/17/2014 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 li hadi @alihadi68 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15109183 #USA Congress's just passed: Provisions to privatise #Ukraine infrastructure,electricity,oil/gas with help of #WorldBank #USAID. Total theft Wait how is that even possible? Wouldn't that make Ukraine then a new state for us? The Russia Sanctions bill that passed “unanimously,” with no scheduled debate, at 10:23:55 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2014, includes: 1. Sanctions of Russia’s energy industry, including Rosoboronexport and Gazprom. 2. Sanctions of Russia’s defense industry, with respect to arms sales to Syria. 3. Broad sanctions on Russians’ banking and investments. 4. Provisions for privatization of Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, oil, gas and renewables, with the help of the World Bank and USAID. 5. Fifty million dollars to assist in a corporate takeover of Ukraine’s oil and gas sectors. 6. Three hundred and fifty million dollars for military assistance to Ukraine, including anti-tank, anti-armor, optical, and guidance and control equipment, as well as drones. 7. Thirty million dollars for an intensive radio, television and Internet propaganda campaign throughout the countries of the former Soviet Union. 8. Twenty million dollars for “democratic organizing” in Ukraine. 9. Sixty million dollars, spent through groups like the National Endowment for Democracy, “to improve democratic governance, and transparency, accountability [and] rule of law” in Russia. What brilliant hyperbole to pass such a provision the same week the Senate’s CIA torture report was released. 10. An unverified declaration that Russia has violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, is a nuclear “threat to the United States” and should be held “accountable.” 11. A path for the U.S. withdrawal from the INF Treaty, which went into force in 1988. The implications of this are immense. An entire series of arms agreements are at risk of unraveling. It may not be long before NATO pushes its newest client state, Ukraine, to abrogate the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which Ukraine signed when it gave up its nuclear weapons, and establish a renewed nuclear missile capability, 300 miles from Moscow. 12. A demand that Russia verifiably dismantle “any ground launched cruise missiles or ballistic missiles with a range of between 500 and 5,500 kilometers ...”—i.e., 300 and 3,300 miles. Read the legislation, which Congress apparently didn’t. As reported on GlobalSecurity.org, earlier that same day in Kiev, the Ukrainian parliament approved a security plan that will: 1. Declare that Ukraine should become a “military state.” 2. Reallocate more of its approved 2014 budget for military purposes. 3. Put all military operating units on alert. 4. Mobilize military and national guard units. 5. Increase military spending in Ukraine from 1 percent of GDP to 5 percent, increasing military spending by $3 billion over the next few years. 6. Join NATO and switch to NATO military standards. more: [link to www.truthdig.com] Thank you, it's always good to know who your enemy is. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
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User ID: 66123012 Czechia12/17/2014 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lolz! Ukrainian MoD: Every sixth non-combat casualty in the area ATO - due to alcohol "According to statistics from the Main Directorate, one in six non-combat losses, one in five accidents involving military personnel, almost all cases of bullying, every fifth breach of military discipline, and every tenth psychiatric illness - a consequence of alcohol abuse," - said Vitaly Pokotilo in the program "We are together." [link to www.dialog.ua] But, but...Ukie here said Banderstadt soldaten nicht drunk, alles abstinents! Rusische propagandist, nicht richtig!  “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 66123012 Czechia12/17/2014 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lol what an embarrassment again! First Kupol bows to Motorola then he bows to the commander of battalion Vostok. After that Motorola and his men conducted made a personal inspection of "cyborgs" and now they are inspecting cars of Ukies. What a joke!  “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 66123012 Czechia12/17/2014 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 marqs ‏@MarQs__ 8 min. Repr. of Border Service: #Russia|n troops (aprox. 50K) are openly maneuvering now in different directions along the #Ukraine’s border marqs ‏@MarQs__ 8 min. @MarQs__ via @MrKovalenko  “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 66141411 Germany12/17/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15109183 The Russia Sanctions bill that passed “unanimously,” with no scheduled debate, at 10:23:55 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2014, includes: 1. Sanctions of Russia’s energy industry, including Rosoboronexport and Gazprom. 2. Sanctions of Russia’s defense industry, with respect to arms sales to Syria. 3. Broad sanctions on Russians’ banking and investments. 4. Provisions for privatization of Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, oil, gas and renewables, with the help of the World Bank and USAID. 5. Fifty million dollars to assist in a corporate takeover of Ukraine’s oil and gas sectors. 6. Three hundred and fifty million dollars for military assistance to Ukraine, including anti-tank, anti-armor, optical, and guidance and control equipment, as well as drones. 7. Thirty million dollars for an intensive radio, television and Internet propaganda campaign throughout the countries of the former Soviet Union. 8. Twenty million dollars for “democratic organizing” in Ukraine. 9. Sixty million dollars, spent through groups like the National Endowment for Democracy, “to improve democratic governance, and transparency, accountability [and] rule of law” in Russia. What brilliant hyperbole to pass such a provision the same week the Senate’s CIA torture report was released. 10. An unverified declaration that Russia has violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, is a nuclear “threat to the United States” and should be held “accountable.” 11. A path for the U.S. withdrawal from the INF Treaty, which went into force in 1988. The implications of this are immense. An entire series of arms agreements are at risk of unraveling. It may not be long before NATO pushes its newest client state, Ukraine, to abrogate the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which Ukraine signed when it gave up its nuclear weapons, and establish a renewed nuclear missile capability, 300 miles from Moscow. 12. A demand that Russia verifiably dismantle “any ground launched cruise missiles or ballistic missiles with a range of between 500 and 5,500 kilometers ...”—i.e., 300 and 3,300 miles. Read the legislation, which Congress apparently didn’t. As reported on GlobalSecurity.org, earlier that same day in Kiev, the Ukrainian parliament approved a security plan that will: 1. Declare that Ukraine should become a “military state.” 2. Reallocate more of its approved 2014 budget for military purposes. 3. Put all military operating units on alert. 4. Mobilize military and national guard units. 5. Increase military spending in Ukraine from 1 percent of GDP to 5 percent, increasing military spending by $3 billion over the next few years. 6. Join NATO and switch to NATO military standards. more: [link to www.truthdig.com] Wait wait wait, hold up did this thing pass?! number 6 I mean Ukraine joined NATO!? didn't Putin state if that happened that means war like as of this passage/minute?! Lol, it can't happen that fast, but yes, it passed. Oh boy, so to me at least, what do you think, with this especially is there any turning back now? Yes, if the people in the land of freedom and democracy decide that it shouldn't happen - or have you no freedom and democracy over there? I know we here have none in the EU. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64902230  Canada12/17/2014 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This is a good explanation right here. – Our country has a stock of dollars – The currency of our country – roubles – is held by other countries – We – Russia – are planning to sell oil for roubles in the future – Everyone who buys oil from us in the future will have to look for these roubles to buy oil - The harder it is to look for them, the more expensive they will be Naturally, the task is simple – we need to drop the rouble to the bottom, and then buy all the roubles that we can, giving away the dollars that are no longer needed and not guaranteed by anything. link [link to www.vineyardsaker.co.nz] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57483427 Luxembourg12/17/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This is a good explanation right here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64902230 – Our country has a stock of dollars – The currency of our country – roubles – is held by other countries – We – Russia – are planning to sell oil for roubles in the future – Everyone who buys oil from us in the future will have to look for these roubles to buy oil - The harder it is to look for them, the more expensive they will be Naturally, the task is simple – we need to drop the rouble to the bottom, and then buy all the roubles that we can, giving away the dollars that are no longer needed and not guaranteed by anything. link [link to www.vineyardsaker.co.nz] at the moment russia is selling oil for gold while draining the wests resources who try to keep both oil and gold down |
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User ID: 63880041 United States12/17/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia crisis leaves banks around the world exposed by the billions [link to rt.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66150238 Germany12/17/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Kiev is known for LIES/BS when it comes to Russia. We had about five times (or more) that the puppet nr.1 of the NAZI-junta said that the Rest of Ukraine is beeing invaded by Russia! All lies, meanwhile right-sector and crownies are killing their own people because these are moderate! The EU and the USA is supporting and helping a NAZI-REGIME to start a war against moderate Russia! |
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User ID: 58276109  Sweden12/17/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Moldova Foundation ‏@MDFoundation 4 timför 4 timmar sedan Moldova, Romania, and Ukraine are planning joint ground military exercises. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
| scene isle User ID: 65945192 United States12/17/2014 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: DawaSatso No. Wait. Cuba knows the vultures they are dealing with have a slipknot around their necks. You don't get something from the u.s. without holding your country hostage with a gun to your head. I want to know what happened to Cuba's gov't we don't know about. The Cubans KNOW the kind of devil they're dealing with. A military base..that's an OVER for me. Putin has already stated he sees the u.s. is attempting to disintegrate and fragment Russia on the inside. No surprises there. True, this is something very strange going on - but then the whole Cuba thing has been strange from the start. I think this is their attempt to isolate Russia from its allies/friends now, but gets bought will eventually fall hard. Dirty money has never brought luck in the long term. Good insight here :) Yet we've seen this isolate from allie approach so many times or intimidate allies with a desperate catch-22 so they don't dare make any moves of support toward their allies in distress. SOP tool. Why would Cuba sellout on a reliable support and go with one they know is going to fuck you over every single time. This is too improbable to be real. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Oh ... lol that would be funny.  But that would mean the US Administration is more stupid than even I thought they are. I don't think that's possible. Obama isn't doing this for the benefit of Cubans or Castro. He's poking Putin. Didn't Putin or his Sec of State - Lavrov?- make a trip to Cuba and Central America this past summer and didn't Castro and Daniel Ortega, Pres of Nicaragua, agree to allow Russian military ships to put in at their ports? And wasn't there some discussion on Russia building naval bases in Cuba and Nica? |
