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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Russia has a REAL economy based on production, resoures and gold.

The US/EU are aging, debt-based Ponzi schemes based on "creative" financials under cannon diplomacy.

Russia is now showing, for the 3rd time in a rod (1st Georgia, 2nd Syria and 3rd Ukraine) that US cannons' powder is wet. Putin will give the US/EU that little push that will send their virtual economies to the sewer hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


Every country that produces something need a buyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
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The proof is the fact that we don't live in one single country. We live in a multi-cultural world where country have "specialized themselves" in producers and buyers.

Even if we live in a single country, there are regions inside countries, difference between regions would also exists.

The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
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Every country that produces something need a buyer.
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This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof is the fact that we don't live in one single country. We live in a multi-cultural world where country have "specialized themselves" in producers and buyers.

Even if we live in a single country, there are regions inside countries, difference between regions would also exists.

The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
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:facepalm:
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I sorry to see that it is your best reply hf
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They can't do anything about Ukraine. But the Russian economy is going to really suck.
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Russia has a REAL economy based on production, resoures and gold.

The US/EU are aging, debt-based Ponzi schemes based on "creative" financials under cannon diplomacy.

Russia is now showing, for the 3rd time in a rod (1st Georgia, 2nd Syria and 3rd Ukraine) that US cannons' powder is wet. Putin will give the US/EU that little push that will send their virtual economies to the sewer hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


clappa
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Clap away. This is an excuse for Europe to swallow the pain and get off of Russia's natural gas. Sure they will have to pay a little more for US natural gas but it will be worth it.
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Absolutely delusional from every point of view.

1. It does not make commercial sense to pay more for energy when you can pay less, unless you want to accelerate the destrutcion of your economy.

2. It does not make strategicval sense to transport US gas to Europe. The sea traffic would have to be the equivalent of one Normandy landing every single day.

3. It does not make political sense. The US as a "partner" is much more of a tyrant than Russia would ever be.

The US not only took all the gold to NY for "safekeeping", but it exctracts 60% off every single EU working citizen to repay interests of a growing debt. In contrast, Russia only extracts a 13% flat tax, allowing people to prosper off the fruits of their work.
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Have any of you guys watched the youtube videos of Vice News?

It has 8 parts and they are very interesting. It makes me respect the Ukrainian Soldiers more than I did but at the same time feel a little sorry for the Russian soldiers because they are ordered to do what they are doing. The men on both sides are just following orders of the people who make the decisions. I am glad that both sides are not firing a shot....but the Ukrainian soldiers really deserve our respect.

Here is the video...

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I hope they resolve this peacefully. I have this sneaky suspicion that if it gets down to war both sides are going to see weapons coming from deep underground that will collectively make us shit ourselves.

Russia,

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Russia has a REAL economy based on production, resoures and gold.

The US/EU are aging, debt-based Ponzi schemes based on "creative" financials under cannon diplomacy.

Russia is now showing, for the 3rd time in a rod (1st Georgia, 2nd Syria and 3rd Ukraine) that US cannons' powder is wet. Putin will give the US/EU that little push that will send their virtual economies to the sewer hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


Every country that produces something need a buyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
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Every country that produces something need a buyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


While this is true.... it was also true right before WWII in the United States. That war turned our economy right around.

But, we did produce things then too.

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What? You ahven't yet realized your presidents are just PR products, marketing anchors, talking heads and the decisions are made by a government in the shadow that does not change from one poll to the next?
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If that's the case then so is Putin...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Putin is former KGB, he has fought the cold war, he knows the enemy perfectly well. He does not speak a single idle word, he's nobody's proy, Putin is the man in command, the real deal.

People notice this and that's why he is so popular all over the world (to much pissing and embarrassment by our phony "leaders").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


Crowds are like stupid women, they'll fall for whatever leader that looks tough and manly and strong and stuff. Know who said something like this? Hitler. He was very popular in many parts of the world too. Just like Pootin is now. Two morans who plunged the world into chaos and millions lose their lives. Stupid leader-worship morans.
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The leaders of the West are closer to Hitler than Putin ever was. They are fascists and use NAZI propaganda techniques and control the population through the media. At the same time, they call themselves democrats, restrict civil liberties, rob their people, point their dirty fingers at other leaders, yet don't accept referendi and democratic decisions and threaten, threaten, threaten...everyone who doen't want to join looters international.

Who is foolish enough not to look through their extreme hypocrisy?
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Russia has a REAL economy based on production, resoures and gold.


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

They need to stockpile their toilet paper...or they'll be forced to use Rubles.
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This AC is living in a fantasy world where the USA is all things great. Too bad Russia and China could destroy the US economy tomorrow and their economies would be fine as they'd set up a new reserve currency based on whatever they wanted. Then wait 18 months for the US to kill itself off from riots, and move right on in.
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Where would China sell the all the goods it produces?

China will not destroy US economy because it is dependent on US to sell its goods.

Believe or not, US and China have a symbiot relationship. Both benefit from present situation.
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And like the USA, China is presiding over a collapsing population and society. Both are disintegrating together as they try to hold together the parasitic system they benefit from temporarily.
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What really matters to China?


Food.

Who has the food, the US or Russia?

The US.
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Russia has a REAL economy based on production, resoures and gold.

The US/EU are aging, debt-based Ponzi schemes based on "creative" financials under cannon diplomacy.

Russia is now showing, for the 3rd time in a rod (1st Georgia, 2nd Syria and 3rd Ukraine) that US cannons' powder is wet. Putin will give the US/EU that little push that will send their virtual economies to the sewer hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


clappa
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Clap away. This is an excuse for Europe to swallow the pain and get off of Russia's natural gas. Sure they will have to pay a little more for US natural gas but it will be worth it.

The US will finally have a "National Security" excuse to bypass all ecological concerns and ramp up the fracking.

Russia is handing over their natural gas customers to the US in exchange for some Tatars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


I can't argue with that. Spot on I think.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I can. How are you going to bring such amount of nat gas from US to Europe?By ships? you don't know what you are talking about...
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"We have become what we were told Russia was, and they have become what we were told we were. It's in who's doing the telling."

Spot on.
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What really matters to China?


Food.

Who has the food, the US or Russia?

The US.
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Or Ukraine?

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Every country that produces something need a buyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


LOL.... Russia exports oil, gas and agriculture products and imports manufactured products.
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Every country that produces something need a buyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


To produce something you need a buyer. Russia has no internal buyers to buy everything [natural gas for example] they produce.

If Russia doesn't sell the natural gas their revenue will be negative and their economy will be shrinking.

Russia can sell natural gas to China, but before that they would need to create all the infrastruture, mainly pipelines to do so.

The problem here in GLP is that everyone talks about production and we need to talk about buying because these are the sides of the same coin.
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Every country that produces something need a buyer.
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This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof is the fact that we don't live in one single country. We live in a multi-cultural world where country have "specialized themselves" in producers and buyers.

Even if we live in a single country, there are regions inside countries, difference between regions would also exists.

The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820



:facepalm:
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You are right, Texas produces a different variety of Mexicans,and the occasional Bush to bring a bit of adrenalin in the Middle east.
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This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36134820


Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


LOL.... Russia exports oil, gas and agriculture products and imports manufactured products.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


From CHINA, just like the USA

ROFL
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clappa
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Clap away. This is an excuse for Europe to swallow the pain and get off of Russia's natural gas. Sure they will have to pay a little more for US natural gas but it will be worth it.

The US will finally have a "National Security" excuse to bypass all ecological concerns and ramp up the fracking.

Russia is handing over their natural gas customers to the US in exchange for some Tatars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


I can't argue with that. Spot on I think.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I can. How are you going to bring such amount of nat gas from US to Europe?By ships? you don't know what you are talking about...
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Yep. Why not. It's how oil is moved around. And with the US becoming a major natural gas exporter and produce more than Russia, why not knock out some competition?

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What really matters to China?


Food.

Who has the food, the US or Russia?

The US.
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Or Ukraine?

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Not for long :X
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Ukrainian hackers claim they took down NATO websites ahead of secession vote

Ukrainian hackers are claiming responsibility for a cyberattack that brought down a pair of NATO websites today, in an act of protest against Western powers on the eve of a major vote that could see a portion of Ukraine handed over to Russia.
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Damn this is a long thread
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Russia wants WAR... the proof: Look at how close Russians have put their country to US military bases:

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clappa
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Clap away. This is an excuse for Europe to swallow the pain and get off of Russia's natural gas. Sure they will have to pay a little more for US natural gas but it will be worth it.

The US will finally have a "National Security" excuse to bypass all ecological concerns and ramp up the fracking.

Russia is handing over their natural gas customers to the US in exchange for some Tatars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


I can't argue with that. Spot on I think.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I can. How are you going to bring such amount of nat gas from US to Europe?By ships? you don't know what you are talking about...
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Logged in again to check. Still the same crowd.

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If that's the case then so is Putin...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Putin is former KGB, he has fought the cold war, he knows the enemy perfectly well. He does not speak a single idle word, he's nobody's proy, Putin is the man in command, the real deal.

People notice this and that's why he is so popular all over the world (to much pissing and embarrassment by our phony "leaders").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


Crowds are like stupid women, they'll fall for whatever leader that looks tough and manly and strong and stuff. Know who said something like this? Hitler. He was very popular in many parts of the world too. Just like Pootin is now. Two morans who plunged the world into chaos and millions lose their lives. Stupid leader-worship morans.
 Quoting: Polemarchos



The leaders of the West are closer to Hitler than Putin ever was. They are fascists and use NAZI propaganda techniques and control the population through the media. At the same time, they call themselves democrats, restrict civil liberties, rob their people, point their dirty fingers at other leaders, yet don't accept referendi and democratic decisions and threaten, threaten, threaten...everyone who doen't want to join looters international.

Who is foolish enough not to look through their extreme hypocrisy?
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Name a western leader that is "popular all over the world" like Putin. Or that is seen as a "hero" fighting against the PTB/NWO/Zionist Conspiracy/Jewish Oligarchs as Pootin is seen by many of his fanboys.

Your beloved Pootin is full of poo too.... Calling himself defender of sovereignty and international law, opposer of armed intervention in sovereign states (remember Syria last year?).... But then goes ahead and does it himself.
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"We have become what we were told Russia was, and they have become what we were told we were. It's in who's doing the telling."

Spot on.
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clappa
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Putin is former KGB, he has fought the cold war, he knows the enemy perfectly well. He does not speak a single idle word, he's nobody's proy, Putin is the man in command, the real deal.

People notice this and that's why he is so popular all over the world (to much pissing and embarrassment by our phony "leaders").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052


Crowds are like stupid women, they'll fall for whatever leader that looks tough and manly and strong and stuff. Know who said something like this? Hitler. He was very popular in many parts of the world too. Just like Pootin is now. Two morans who plunged the world into chaos and millions lose their lives. Stupid leader-worship morans.
 Quoting: Polemarchos



The leaders of the West are closer to Hitler than Putin ever was. They are fascists and use NAZI propaganda techniques and control the population through the media. At the same time, they call themselves democrats, restrict civil liberties, rob their people, point their dirty fingers at other leaders, yet don't accept referendi and democratic decisions and threaten, threaten, threaten...everyone who doen't want to join looters international.

Who is foolish enough not to look through their extreme hypocrisy?
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Name a western leader that is "popular all over the world" like Putin. Or that is seen as a "hero" fighting against the PTB/NWO/Zionist Conspiracy/Jewish Oligarchs as Pootin is seen by many of his fanboys.

Your beloved Pootin is full of poo too.... Calling himself defender of sovereignty and international law, opposer of armed intervention in sovereign states (remember Syria last year?).... But then goes ahead and does it himself.
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Obama is still popular according to the Western propaganda media.
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What really matters to China?


Food.

Who has the food, the US or Russia?

The US.
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Or Ukraine?

[link to www.rferl.org]
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Not for long :X
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998


You're correct. It's squeeze time. As populations boom and resources dry up the game is on. The US is squeezing China out of Africa with revolutions and destabilizations in every country the Chinese are. The US is squeezing Russian energy exports by pushing in Ukraine and the development of the Leviathan gas fields.

Push Russia into a situation where they HAVE to respond, Ukraine, and try to isolate them and sanction them. That's going to put the squeeze on everyone... and oh look, the US will sell you some GMO food and as much natural gas as you want.

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This is a fallacy. The proof is simple: imagine the world is under a single government, the world is one single country. Would that mean the Earth's production would have to be sold to some aliens from outer space? Obviously not.

Also, when you produce real goods it's a bad business to "sell" them in exchange of toilet paper... meaning the fake money coming as a waterfall out of the US "printing press". It amountns to giving away your wealth. Russia can afford lose this "commerce" (actually just theft) with the USA and start accepting Rials, Pesos, Rupees etc. expanding FAIR commerce with the rest of the world.
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The proof of this is the fact, that for exemple, Texas doesn't produce the same goods as for exemple California.
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Which means you do not need commerce with other countries when your own produces everything you need.

The key here is PRODUCTION, Russia has it and therefore it can be self-sufficient forever while the EU/US have scrapped industry and agriculture and need to buy everything abroad.
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LOL.... Russia exports oil, gas and agriculture products and imports manufactured products.
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could you "mr. russia is shit" and you "mr. russia produces its own shit" please shut the fuck up!!!

Your discussion is total bullshit and lacks knowledge and you are spamming this thread!

the eu can do whatever they want with their useless sanctions ,russia won't give a shit, same as china. and everybody just gives a shit about sanctions.

USA and Russia both have massive oil reserves and that is the only shit needed in a conventional war to keep things going.

EU has not so much Oil

Russia and US both have 2000 deployed nuclear warheads and that is the only fucking thing that lets people like you two discuss on an internet forum like this. It's called mutually assured destruction.

And now you two fuckheads just do one thing and that is pray the fucking jesus or whoever that russia gets the ukraine without much interference except some useless sanctions by the west under their control ,so you two fuckheads don't experience 3 rd degree burns in the next weeks from nuclear explosions!

Just shut the fuck up!
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If I was Putin I would cut off all natureal gas supplies to any one who is against Russia in this deal.

I would not hesitate a single minute.

Let them buy from Qatar and Kuwait and whoever.

No more Russian gas for any EU countries that goes against Russia!

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he will do that before next winter i guess. i would do that.
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I would take action immediately and cut off all gas supplies to them taking immediate effect.

Then we will see if they will laugh at him and playing him for a fool.
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Immediate wouldn't have an effect. Western European storage tanks are full following a mild winter. They get about 30% of supply from Russia. The worst hit would be the Scandinavians who are not as diversified.

Regardless of how this turns out they will all be looking to diversify away from Russian supplies as soon as possible. Putin has now made them very aware of this vulnerability.

This stuff is about 80% of Russian exports so if they cut off the supplies they cut most of their exports. That is money that goes directly to the Russian budget since it is nationalized.

Many of you are naive about all of this and think that Putin can just cut off the spigot without affecting Russia at all. Doesn't work that way.
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True, but even though Russia's economic staying power is limited, Russia can probably stomach a loss of revenue for longer than northern Europe can tolerate a fuel embargo...

I say this because Europe has become profoundly dependent upon natural gas for the generation of electricity since they began the process of eliminating all nuclear power generation 3 years ago.

Remember these events back in 2012? -
The Russian Stock Market has closed indefinitely, and reports are that the Russian Government has declared it an Emergency. In other news, the entire cabinet of The Netherlands resigned this morning because they could not come to an accord over budget and austerity issues…
[link to ncrenegade.com]

Brazil’s Real lost 12 percent this quarter through June 22, the biggest drop among the 31 most-actively traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg. The 11.5 percent depreciation in the ruble and 10 percent drop in the rupee were almost twice the retreat in the euro. China’s yuan, which was kept unchanged during the global financial crisis in 2008 and 2009, fell 1.2 percent since March after the government widened the amount the currency is allowed to fluctuate each day.
[link to ncrenegade.com]

Neither Putin nor the EU are 'negotiating' from a position of strength. Generally, this is not a good formula for a peaceful settlement...

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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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Putin is former KGB, he has fought the cold war, he knows the enemy perfectly well. He does not speak a single idle word, he's nobody's proy, Putin is the man in command, the real deal.

People notice this and that's why he is so popular all over the world (to much pissing and embarrassment by our phony "leaders").
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Crowds are like stupid women, they'll fall for whatever leader that looks tough and manly and strong and stuff. Know who said something like this? Hitler. He was very popular in many parts of the world too. Just like Pootin is now. Two morans who plunged the world into chaos and millions lose their lives. Stupid leader-worship morans.
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The leaders of the West are closer to Hitler than Putin ever was. They are fascists and use NAZI propaganda techniques and control the population through the media. At the same time, they call themselves democrats, restrict civil liberties, rob their people, point their dirty fingers at other leaders, yet don't accept referendi and democratic decisions and threaten, threaten, threaten...everyone who doen't want to join looters international.

Who is foolish enough not to look through their extreme hypocrisy?
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Name a western leader that is "popular all over the world" like Putin. Or that is seen as a "hero" fighting against the PTB/NWO/Zionist Conspiracy/Jewish Oligarchs as Pootin is seen by many of his fanboys.

Your beloved Pootin is full of poo too.... Calling himself defender of sovereignty and international law, opposer of armed intervention in sovereign states (remember Syria last year?).... But then goes ahead and does it himself.
 Quoting: Polemarchos



Unlike the hypocritical US, Russia hasn't attacked or invaded any country in the last decades. In Ukraine again, as seen before in Egypt, Libya and Syria, and so on...the US caused havoc and mass murder through their covert operations with intels and proxies. It is always the same and so blatant.





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