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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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i'm 99% sure kiev nazis killed JFK
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not Texas White Russians?
Eat the Reds
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Russian Market @russian_market · 60 seg

Total Blackout in Slaviansk - Reports
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Summary for past 18 hours:

ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.

ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.

ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.


Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
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#BREAKING TWO UKRAINIAN MILITARY JETS SU-25 SHOT DOWN BY PRO-RUSSIANS pic.twitter.com/SldYssRpyc

 Quoting: Luisport

That may explain why Iraq is buying a small fleet of them.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Iraqi's are not happy with the shape the Su-25's are in. lots of corrosion, cracks, damaged parts, etc. Believe it or not the Iraqi's can be very picky. They sent some APC's back to Ukraine for minor imperfections.
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Summary for past 18 hours:
ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.
ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.
ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.
Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783
Sources or personal opinion?
Please be clear.
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Looks like safety for civilians is going to only be found in Russia. Will the West then accuse Putin of promoting civil war by giving shelter to women and kids?
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Summary for past 18 hours:

ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.

ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.

ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.


Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
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lol70
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Summary for past 18 hours:
ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.
ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.
ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.
Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
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 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


I got it from my uncle in the Kremlin.
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Summary for past 18 hours:
ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.
ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.
ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.
Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783
Sources or personal opinion?
Please be clear.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


I got it from my uncle in the Kremlin.
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Get real or scram.
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Be advised:
Luis is impartial and doing a great job here.

Peace.
 Quoting: Lux Æterna


If i post RT i'm pro russian, if i post other sources i'm pro-Kiev... i'm pro-nothing!!! I don't have any side, i'm just worried about people and concequences of this conflict!
 Quoting: Luisport


oh, really? then why did you ban me for telling you to stop posting propaganda tweets? it was a propaganda tweet, i didn't lie, but was banned? why is that, mr. pro-nothing?

whatever
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Let me get that, Luis. Nuisances and pests are banned. Luis doesn't need to explain or justify himself to every asshole that comes along.
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING TWO UKRAINIAN MILITARY JETS SU-25 SHOT DOWN BY PRO-RUSSIANS pic.twitter.com/SldYssRpyc


Russian Market @russian_market · 35 seg

6 UKRAINIAN TANKS PUNCTURED BY REBELS NEAR SCHASTIE TOWN

 Quoting: Luisport


Well if Russian Market's tweets say so it must be true; there isn't any more reliable evidence but a tweet.

5a
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21:14 Two Ukrainian aircraft shot down in Luhansk region - militiamen

Ukrainian tragedy proves war can come close, unexpectedly - Lukashenko

MINSK. July 1 (Interfax) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has urged Belarusians to preserve peace and accord in their country.
"Some of us may have thought that a war is an affair of the past and will forever remain in museums, books and films, or that a war is very far, in the mountains and deserts of a foreign land," the president said. "But the tragedy of our nearby Ukraine is the reminder that a war is something that could come very close and unexpectedly. The war is what happens when peace, stability and accord are not appreciated, when the society breaks up and falls into the chaos of revolution," the Belarusian leader said.
[link to interfax.com]
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this man is the next problem to fix for Putin
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Putin sux mean dicks
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#BREAKING TWO UKRAINIAN MILITARY JETS SU-25 SHOT DOWN BY PRO-RUSSIANS pic.twitter.com/SldYssRpyc

 Quoting: Luisport

That may explain why Iraq is buying a small fleet of them.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Iraqi's are not happy with the shape the Su-25's are in. lots of corrosion, cracks, damaged parts, etc. Believe it or not the Iraqi's can be very picky. They sent some APC's back to Ukraine for minor imperfections.
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They can't be both picky and impatient.
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Iraqi's are not happy with the shape the Su-25's are in. lots of corrosion, cracks, damaged parts, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55223495

You get what you pay for, that they are even looking at something this old means they are shopping for 'bargins' Syria could be demanding spare parts for their aircraft that is being used against the rebels and more missions might be in the works and the craft being used is part of the deal and the other things are parts only. Syria would then be getting a newer version of some Russian fighters that adapt to the more modern arms that Russia has that are more accurate.
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


bsflag
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


embedded subs prove propaganda fake
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


True words.
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Summary for past 18 hours:

ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.

ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.

ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.


Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783


Shoooore! The source of this propaganda gibberish is likely to be some looser Banderite swamp trolls like that guy... Whats his name? Dmitry Tymchuk or similar... Accorsing to him in every squirmish they kill hundreds of "Russians". In every artillery or air attack thousands of "Russians" are killed... Seems that those pesky "Russians" have a nasty skill of cloning themselves. Every time they kill a bunch, twice as many appear out of nowhere... Those "Russians"... Using magic to get the upper hand in battle. :)
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Summary for past 18 hours:

ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.

ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.

ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.


Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783


Shoooore! The source of this propaganda gibberish is likely to be some looser Banderite swamp trolls like that guy... Whats his name? Dmitry Tymchuk or similar... Accorsing to him in every squirmish they kill hundreds of "Russians". In every artillery or air attack thousands of "Russians" are killed... Seems that those pesky "Russians" have a nasty skill of cloning themselves. Every time they kill a bunch, twice as many appear out of nowhere... Those "Russians"... Using magic to get the upper hand in battle. :)
 Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 59825037


No, not 'out of magic or no where'

They come across the border from Russia by the multi-truckloads every day with the full knowledge of Putin. Are you now going to pretend that all the many vehicles of armed men that came across the border from Russia are nonexistant now?
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Summary for past 18 hours:

ATO is taking territory, while the Russians are losing it.

ATO is killing and capturing hundreds of men while only losing a small number of their own. Also many separatists completely coming to the side of the ATO to join them in recent hours - massive numbers.

ATO has destroyed about 30% of terrorist armor, while losing very little % of their own.


Without a major overt invasion now, Putin has lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783


thx had a nice laugh
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MOSCOW. July 1 (Interfax) - The U.S. should employ its resources to persuade the Ukrainian authorities that their course is destructive, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested in a telephone conversation with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday.
"Lavrov emphasized that [Ukrainian] President Petro Poroshenko's decision not to extend the armistice undermines the agreements reached earlier between the leaders of Russia, Germany, France, and Ukraine and starts a new cycle of bloodshed with consequences unpredictable for the Ukrainian state," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on its website.
[link to interfax.com]

Looks like an ultimatum from Russia!
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21:14 Two Ukrainian aircraft shot down in Luhansk region - militiamen

Ukrainian tragedy proves war can come close, unexpectedly - Lukashenko

MINSK. July 1 (Interfax) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has urged Belarusians to preserve peace and accord in their country.
"Some of us may have thought that a war is an affair of the past and will forever remain in museums, books and films, or that a war is very far, in the mountains and deserts of a foreign land," the president said. "But the tragedy of our nearby Ukraine is the reminder that a war is something that could come very close and unexpectedly. The war is what happens when peace, stability and accord are not appreciated, when the society breaks up and falls into the chaos of revolution," the Belarusian leader said.
[link to interfax.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32341327


this man is the next problem to fix for Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59796051


Whatever you would say on Lukashenko He will never fucked up vs "revolution" in Belaursia like Yanuk in Ukraine even Kreml admited that He make "mistake" there. So Kreml never will try "fix" him rusians will never have better allies and friendly country who can secure their west flank than Belarus ofc Russia must be friendly for them too but this is fair deal i think.
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Ystri Ya @ystriya
LifeNews says Russian volunteers helping DNR & LNR are mainly from central Russia & Siberia.
Then goes oops! & deletes tweet.
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[link to www.atlanticcouncil.org]

Opinion Poll Shows Russian Support for Arming Separatist Militants in Ukraine

AtlanticCouncil ‏@AtlanticCouncil · 4m
POLL: 64% of Russians support arming #Ukrainian separatists. 33% think crisis could lead to world war.

Putin is under domestic pressure to make the Separatists

succeed. if they fail he well have a public backlash.
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There is zero doubt left now that Putin is deeply and dangerously out of touch with reality - what looks like through a complete echo chamber of false propaganda that is being presented to him, perhaps combined with also some sincere parnoid mental illness.

This puts you Russians in as much jeopardy as anyone else, so it is time to stop and realize it ...



Putin today: "Killing journalists is unacceptable", says there are attempts in Ukraine to "liquidate the press.. Who fears objective info? Those committing crimes"



This is completely and unequivocally not in line with reality. Ukraine has done far more than any nation in combat to protect the press amongst its combatant areas, INCLUDING those known to be nothing more than completely dishonest enemy propaganda agents who are given free pass through these areas. Even when two Rus journalists were found with anti-aircraft missiles in their trunk by Ukr, they were freed a few days later!

The reality is the opposite - it is the Russian opponents of Ukraine who have been the ones attacking the press, taking them hostage simply for dissent, and trying so very hard to silence all dissent!

If anyone claims otherwise then here is a very simple task for you - show us any non-pro-Rus journalist inside Sloviansk right now! There is not one single one.

DNR/LNR now holds 190 hostages, almost all who are noncombatants with dissenting voices and nothing else whatsoever, taken political hostage by the Russians.

So Putin is without a doubt deeply not in touch with reality.

It shows just how very dangerous and unpredictably volatile this situation is also. A man in control of the world's second most powerful military ... living in a paranoid fantasy world where much of what he says and believes is way out of line with reality in a bad way.
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


embedded subs prove propaganda fake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200703


Of course it is fake. Source is Euromaidan PR. Banderistan swindlers. Noobish low level propaganda.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


The video confession is fake, but Russian Market tweets are real, because...

* facepalm *

A textbook example of confirmation bias.
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Title:
Former DNR Separatist Defected To The Ukrainian Army, June 28 2014

About:
Published on Jun 28, 2014
Former separatist militant DNR repented that participated in the militia and defected to the Ukrainian army.
Urges his friends to do the same.

Channel:
EuroMaidan PR
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


embedded subs prove propaganda fake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200703


Of course it is fake. Source is Euromaidan PR. Banderistan swindlers. Noobish low level propaganda.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


The video confession is fake, but Russian Market tweets are real, because...

* facepalm *

A textbook example of confirmation bias.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28247684


Where I told "Russian Market tweets are real"? Please show me.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Ystri Ya @ystriya
LifeNews says Russian volunteers helping DNR & LNR are mainly from central Russia & Siberia.
Then goes oops! & deletes tweet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55224783


tell us about the Polish volunteers to ATO





GLP