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The US's 'pivot east' that began with their coup in Ukraine and their support of murderous Nazis on the Russian border was in actuality to stop Russia's rapid growth. Prior to the US's plan Russia was experiencing 12 years of solid growth under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. Crime has been cut in half, the economy grew 6 fold and unemployment is way down compared to 2002 levels. Russia has opened over 200 high end shopping malls in the last 5 years alone. This video gives an example of what New Russia looks like.
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You're either retard or uninformed. While Ukraine certainly didn't benefit at all looking east, in Russia it was Yeltsin who appointed the economic advisers that are responsible for the economic growth. Right now you can see what Putin can do on his own, which is to say, not much.
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The US's 'pivot east' that began with their coup in Ukraine and their support of murderous Nazis on the Russian border was in actuality to stop Russia's rapid growth. Prior to the US's plan Russia was experiencing 12 years of solid growth under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. Crime has been cut in half, the economy grew 6 fold and unemployment is way down compared to 2002 levels. Russia has opened over 200 high end shopping malls in the last 5 years alone. This video gives an example of what New Russia looks like.


 Quoting: RTS REDUX

You're either retard or uninformed. While Ukraine certainly didn't benefit at all looking east, in Russia it was Yeltsin who appointed the economic advisers that are responsible for the economic growth. Right now you can see what Putin can do on his own, which is to say, not much.
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is that so?

btw..you are welcome to answer my previous post about why you support "ZOG"

(directed at Tpotleoz, who is on break or something)
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Mujahideen will very soon turn grozny into a warzone.
Syriastyle.....
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SpetsNaz will turn mujahideen into dead meat. Russiastyle...

But keep building pie in the sky, overwhelming victory is close! Around the corner. Or maybe around the next one...
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Is that what they're saying on RT now?
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Mujahideen will very soon turn grozny into a warzone.
Syriastyle.....
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SpetsNaz will turn mujahideen into dead meat. Russiastyle...

But keep building pie in the sky, overwhelming victory is close! Around the corner. Or maybe around the next one...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Is that what they're saying on RT now?
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You weren't in Makhachkala, Dagestan about six hours ago were you, by chance? Cuz somebody torched the FSB HQ there.
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Georgian and Armenian currencies collapse. It is feared Kazakhstan is next.

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Georgian and Armenian currencies collapse. It is feared Kazakhstan is next.

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This impressive Russian growth is why the US caused the coup in Ukraine


The US's 'pivot east' that began with their coup in Ukraine and their support of murderous Nazis on the Russian border was in actuality to stop Russia's rapid growth. Prior to the US's plan Russia was experiencing 12 years of solid growth under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. Crime has been cut in half, the economy grew 6 fold and unemployment is way down compared to 2002 levels. Russia has opened over 200 high end shopping malls in the last 5 years alone. This video gives an example of what New Russia looks like.
more@ [link to www.liveleak.com]


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So much for rapid growth, their economy is crashing hard.
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Mujahideen will very soon turn grozny into a warzone.
Syriastyle.....
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SpetsNaz will turn mujahideen into dead meat. Russiastyle...

But keep building pie in the sky, overwhelming victory is close! Around the corner. Or maybe around the next one...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Is that what they're saying on RT now?
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You weren't in Makhachkala, Dagestan about six hours ago were you, by chance? Cuz somebody torched the FSB HQ there.
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Why to ask someone who describes himself as "Russian shill fighter"? Childish from the top of his head right down to his toes. Ball-less loser not able to torch even his immigrant docs. Buffoon...

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SpetsNaz will turn mujahideen into dead meat. Russiastyle...

But keep building pie in the sky, overwhelming victory is close! Around the corner. Or maybe around the next one...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Is that what they're saying on RT now?
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020

You weren't in Makhachkala, Dagestan about six hours ago were you, by chance? Cuz somebody torched the FSB HQ there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55163057


Why to ask someone who describes himself as "Russian shill fighter"? Childish from the top of his head right down to his toes. Ball-less loser not able to torch even his immigrant docs. Buffoon...

laugh
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hindend lost his end
and he made it hindsight
Still can't find, still can't find
where Russian shills hide
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lmao
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Stop it, please.
At best you contribute nothing.
At best.
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hindend lost his end
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lmao
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Stop it, please.
At best you contribute nothing.
At best.
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hey, hey, hey look my next post and stop BS PLZ!
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Stop it, please.
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At best.
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hey, hey, hey look my next post and stop BS PLZ!
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Coal crunch forces Ukraine to seek Russian power supplies

According to France-VinghtQuatre, Russia has agreed to supply electricity to Ukraine only under the condition that Ukraine supplies a (lesser) amount of electricity to Crimea.

Further according to France24, Kiev has not decided whether or not it is willing to accept that condition.

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sounds like free electricity to me. We will see whether the ukroppen and so cowed that they will again bite the hand that feeds them.
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Putin’s Chosen People

What’s behind the Russian president’s close relationship with an Orthodox Jewish sect?

...

Whatever his many other sins, even Vladimir Putin’s harshest critics concede that he’s not an anti-Semite. As the New Republic’s Julia Ioffe notes, a number of his closest confidants, as well as the Judo teacher who served as a mentor and surrogate father, are Jews. He has personally intervened in cases of state anti-Semitism, such as an incident last year in which a teacher was charged with corruption and the prosecution used his Jewish last name as evidence. Putin labeled that “egregious,” and the conviction was overturned soon after.

...

Founded in Western Russia in the 18th century, the Lubavitchers decamped to the United States in 1940, setting up their new headquarters in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood. The Orthodox Jewish movement has dispatched hundreds of emissaries throughout the world to promote the faith. Just after the fall of Communism and just prior to his own death, Schneerson sent Rabbi Berel Lazar to represent Chabad in Russia.

Today, Lazar, who was born in Italy and educated in the United States, is Russia’s chief rabbi. He appears frequently at Putin’s side at public events, and is the leader of the Federation of Jewish Communities (known by its Russian acronym FEOR), the country’s most important Jewish organization. But the title of Russia’s most important rabbi is not an uncontested one.

Adolf Shayevech, a prominent figure in the community since the late Soviet period, was considered chief rabbi until 2000, and still claims the title. Kanner’s group, the Russian Jewish Congress, also recognizes Shayevech. But since Putin came to power in 2000, he has preferred to work with FEOR. Lazar, who is sometimes referred to as “Putin’s Rabbi,” now sits on the country’s public chamber, a government-appointed oversight committee. Lazar has been nothing but appreciative, praising Putin publicly as a friend of the Jews and calling Russia “one of the safest places for Jews in Europe.”

[link to www.slate.com]

The Domination of the NKVD by Jews

Who was responsible for the 1941 pre-German slaughter of Ukrainians? The NKVD, obviously, and it is frequently stated in the passages above that the NKVD was dominated by Jews. But, was this claim, or this perception, of disproportionate Jewish participation in the Soviet secret police accurate? Observations such as the following suggest that perhaps it was: Yoram Sheftel, John Demjanjuk's Israeli defense attorney, reports the following in connection with his visit to the Simferopol, Ukraine, KGB headquarters in 1990:

On the right-hand wall was a stone memorial plaque engraved with the names of about thirty KGB men from Simferopol who had fallen in the Great Patriotic War, as the Soviets call World War II. I was shocked and angry as I read the names: the first was Polonski and the last Levinstein, and all those between were ones like Zalmonowitz, Geller and Kagan — all Jews. The best of Jewish youth in Russia, the cradle of Zionism, had sold itself and its soul to the Red Devil. (Yoram Sheftel, The Demjanjuk Affair: The Rise and Fall of a Show-Trial, Victor Gollancz, London, 1994, p. 301)

What Sheftel seems to be saying, then, is that out of thirty names of Simferopol KGB personnel who died in the war, all thirty were Jewish. Of course Sheftel's sample of 30 is not necessarily a sample that is representative of the entire NKVD; however the Jewish domination of the entire NKVD is not a rare or dubious hypothesis, but is one, rather, that is upheld from more than one direction:

As a Jew, I'm interested in another question entirely: Why were there so many Jews among the NKVD-MVD investigators — including many of the most terrible? It's a painful question for me but I cannot evade it. (Yevgenia Albats, The State Within a State: The KGB and its Hold on Russia, Past, Present and Future, 1994, p. 147)

Jews abounded [also] at the lower levels of the Party machinery — especially in the Cheka and its successors, the GPU, the OGPU and the NKVD.... It is difficult to suggest a satisfactory reason for the prevalence of Jews in the Cheka. It may be that having suffered at the hand of the former Russian authorities they wanted to seize the reins of real power in the new state for themselves. (Leonard Shapiro, The Role of Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement, Slavonic and East European Review, 1961, 40, p. 165)

...

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Why is it you can never get the Putinbots to answer any one of your posts on this subject? Your articles are well-sourced, logically and reasonably presented. Maybe they lack the capacity of logical thought and higher reasoning? The truth has them darting for the darkened corners like vermin and roaches.
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I often wonder the same thing. All I get is RTS and his ignorant diversions.
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The US's 'pivot east' that began with their coup in Ukraine and their support of murderous Nazis on the Russian border was in actuality to stop Russia's rapid growth. Prior to the US's plan Russia was experiencing 12 years of solid growth under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. Crime has been cut in half, the economy grew 6 fold and unemployment is way down compared to 2002 levels. Russia has opened over 200 high end shopping malls in the last 5 years alone. This video gives an example of what New Russia looks like.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

You're either retard or uninformed. While Ukraine certainly didn't benefit at all looking east, in Russia it was Yeltsin who appointed the economic advisers that are responsible for the economic growth. Right now you can see what Putin can do on his own, which is to say, not much.
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Correct answer: Retard
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seems pretty silly to claim anything about putin based on either


a picture of him wearing a yarmulke

the fact he has some friends who are jewish

wtf exactly is that supposed to prove ?

neo-conism is a jewish movment and they lead the charge against russia.

schumers verbal threats against russia in which he compared granting asylum to snowden akin to backstabbing america, with each day being a twist of the knife, stuck in my mind. chuck schumer you probably know is a notably jewish and powerful senator.

i personally suspect russia's failure to show subservience to the american empire in granting snowden asylum was the driving reason behind the american sponsored coup in ukraine, even more than russia's opposing views on iran and syria ...

america could not exist without its secret systems of repression, period, and granting snowden asylum is a threat to that system.

im suprised russia hasn't picked up on this and become more vocal about offering american dissidents like snowden asylum
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seems pretty silly to claim anything about putin based on either


a picture of him wearing a yarmulke

the fact he has some friends who are jewish

wtf exactly is that supposed to prove ?

neo-conism is a jewish movment and they lead the charge against russia.

schumers verbal threats against russia in which he compared granting asylum to snowden akin to backstabbing america, with each day being a twist of the knife, stuck in my mind. chuck schumer you probably know is a notably jewish and powerful senator.

i personally suspect russia's failure to show subservience to the american empire in granting snowden asylum was the driving reason behind the american sponsored coup in ukraine, even more than russia's opposing views on iran and syria ...

america could not exist without its secret systems of repression, period, and granting snowden asylum is a threat to that system.

im suprised russia hasn't picked up on this and become more vocal about offering american dissidents like snowden asylum
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Point is they play both sides, as they did throughout the Cold War. The confrontation is both fake and real. One thing is for sure, modern zionism sprang from Russia and Ukraine and now controls Washington.
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Putin’s Chosen People

What’s behind the Russian president’s close relationship with an Orthodox Jewish sect?

...

Whatever his many other sins, even Vladimir Putin’s harshest critics concede that he’s not an anti-Semite. As the New Republic’s Julia Ioffe notes, a number of his closest confidants, as well as the Judo teacher who served as a mentor and surrogate father, are Jews. He has personally intervened in cases of state anti-Semitism, such as an incident last year in which a teacher was charged with corruption and the prosecution used his Jewish last name as evidence. Putin labeled that “egregious,” and the conviction was overturned soon after.

...

Founded in Western Russia in the 18th century, the Lubavitchers decamped to the United States in 1940, setting up their new headquarters in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood. The Orthodox Jewish movement has dispatched hundreds of emissaries throughout the world to promote the faith. Just after the fall of Communism and just prior to his own death, Schneerson sent Rabbi Berel Lazar to represent Chabad in Russia.

Today, Lazar, who was born in Italy and educated in the United States, is Russia’s chief rabbi. He appears frequently at Putin’s side at public events, and is the leader of the Federation of Jewish Communities (known by its Russian acronym FEOR), the country’s most important Jewish organization. But the title of Russia’s most important rabbi is not an uncontested one.

Adolf Shayevech, a prominent figure in the community since the late Soviet period, was considered chief rabbi until 2000, and still claims the title. Kanner’s group, the Russian Jewish Congress, also recognizes Shayevech. But since Putin came to power in 2000, he has preferred to work with FEOR. Lazar, who is sometimes referred to as “Putin’s Rabbi,” now sits on the country’s public chamber, a government-appointed oversight committee. Lazar has been nothing but appreciative, praising Putin publicly as a friend of the Jews and calling Russia “one of the safest places for Jews in Europe.”

[link to www.slate.com]

The Domination of the NKVD by Jews

Who was responsible for the 1941 pre-German slaughter of Ukrainians? The NKVD, obviously, and it is frequently stated in the passages above that the NKVD was dominated by Jews. But, was this claim, or this perception, of disproportionate Jewish participation in the Soviet secret police accurate? Observations such as the following suggest that perhaps it was: Yoram Sheftel, John Demjanjuk's Israeli defense attorney, reports the following in connection with his visit to the Simferopol, Ukraine, KGB headquarters in 1990:

On the right-hand wall was a stone memorial plaque engraved with the names of about thirty KGB men from Simferopol who had fallen in the Great Patriotic War, as the Soviets call World War II. I was shocked and angry as I read the names: the first was Polonski and the last Levinstein, and all those between were ones like Zalmonowitz, Geller and Kagan — all Jews. The best of Jewish youth in Russia, the cradle of Zionism, had sold itself and its soul to the Red Devil. (Yoram Sheftel, The Demjanjuk Affair: The Rise and Fall of a Show-Trial, Victor Gollancz, London, 1994, p. 301)

What Sheftel seems to be saying, then, is that out of thirty names of Simferopol KGB personnel who died in the war, all thirty were Jewish. Of course Sheftel's sample of 30 is not necessarily a sample that is representative of the entire NKVD; however the Jewish domination of the entire NKVD is not a rare or dubious hypothesis, but is one, rather, that is upheld from more than one direction:

As a Jew, I'm interested in another question entirely: Why were there so many Jews among the NKVD-MVD investigators — including many of the most terrible? It's a painful question for me but I cannot evade it. (Yevgenia Albats, The State Within a State: The KGB and its Hold on Russia, Past, Present and Future, 1994, p. 147)

Jews abounded [also] at the lower levels of the Party machinery — especially in the Cheka and its successors, the GPU, the OGPU and the NKVD.... It is difficult to suggest a satisfactory reason for the prevalence of Jews in the Cheka. It may be that having suffered at the hand of the former Russian authorities they wanted to seize the reins of real power in the new state for themselves. (Leonard Shapiro, The Role of Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement, Slavonic and East European Review, 1961, 40, p. 165)

...

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 Quoting: Tpotleoz

Why is it you can never get the Putinbots to answer any one of your posts on this subject? Your articles are well-sourced, logically and reasonably presented. Maybe they lack the capacity of logical thought and higher reasoning? The truth has them darting for the darkened corners like vermin and roaches.
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I often wonder the same thing. All I get is RTS and his ignorant diversions.
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I'd love to see any research or fact-based opinions, observations you may have regarding the very recent history in China, mainland. Particularly in the financial areas. It is an interesting dynamic when you consider Britain's lock on Asian finances by way of Hong Kong.
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Hindend. Next question.
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thought so.

I doubt if Hindend knows either, although we've tried explaining it to him.

Question #2

What do you have againest Russia?

Be specific.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Putin, not Russia. In 2008, he called Beijing and asked them if their two nations could collaborate on a plan Putin had devised. The 08 collapse, when the very existence of the United States threatened and at serious risk of financial implosion, Putin wanted the Chinese to help him kill the dollar and America. Thank God the Chinese thought he had lost his mind and immediately called the WhiteHouse and ratted Putin out to the Americans. Up until that day, I thought Putin to be a modern incarnation of JFK - Americans will understand what a massive complement that was for Putin. Then everything changed.
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so then, it sounds like you think the US should stage another coup d'état to get rid of Putin.

I suppose you think it's a good idea to get rid of Assad too.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Wrong on both counts. Anyone calling for Putin to leave outside of the democratic way he was elected, is a dangerous fool. Imagine the 'power vacuum' were Putin to be forced out. It would throw the entire continent into turmoil.

I want Putin and all his proxies out of Eastern Ukraine, period.
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Hindend. Next question.
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thought so.

I doubt if Hindend knows either, although we've tried explaining it to him.

Question #2

What do you have againest Russia?

Be specific.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Putin, not Russia. In 2008, he called Beijing and asked them if their two nations could collaborate on a plan Putin had devised. The 08 collapse, when the very existence of the United States threatened and at serious risk of financial implosion, Putin wanted the Chinese to help him kill the dollar and America. Thank God the Chinese thought he had lost his mind and immediately called the WhiteHouse and ratted Putin out to the Americans. Up until that day, I thought Putin to be a modern incarnation of JFK - Americans will understand what a massive complement that was for Putin. Then everything changed.
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And what should the whole world think of Obama then? His actions are much worse in the bigger picture. Putin may have planned to get rid of dollar - which is highly unlikely.
But now, every day of artifical support of dollar-based world economy is making impending fall worse.
It's like climbing very tall mountain knowing only way up. It's too cold and you'll die if you stop, but each step is making picture only worse. Obama is enthuasistically leading the way for others secretly owning a parachute to flee in the last moment. Putin - and other BRICS leaders - are looking around in search of gentle enough slope - using which everyone can be somewhat saved - even if with some broken limbs.

Being American you have a right to prioritize your country above others. But do not deny others the same right. Oh yeah, and you are in minority here - which, according to democracy principles, means that your opinion is slightly less important that the one of majority.
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Minority? No. Sorry, trying to destroy my country's currency, actively trying, means I consider Putin an enemy. Putin and his cronies, not the Russian people.
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Coal crunch forces Ukraine to seek Russian power supplies

According to France-VinghtQuatre, Russia has agreed to supply electricity to Ukraine only under the condition that Ukraine supplies a (lesser) amount of electricity to Crimea.

Further according to France24, Kiev has not decided whether or not it is willing to accept that condition.

[link to www.france24.com]

sounds like free electricity to me. We will see whether the ukroppen and so cowed that they will again bite the hand that feeds them.
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I think it is Russia biting the hand that feeds them. Putin has banned all food imports to Russia and the supermarket shelves are all but empty. People starve but what does he care? He made big propaganda about how great his grain harvest was and even exported grain, now he does not have enough grain to feed his people.
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thought so.

I doubt if Hindend knows either, although we've tried explaining it to him.

Question #2

What do you have againest Russia?

Be specific.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Putin, not Russia. In 2008, he called Beijing and asked them if their two nations could collaborate on a plan Putin had devised. The 08 collapse, when the very existence of the United States threatened and at serious risk of financial implosion, Putin wanted the Chinese to help him kill the dollar and America. Thank God the Chinese thought he had lost his mind and immediately called the WhiteHouse and ratted Putin out to the Americans. Up until that day, I thought Putin to be a modern incarnation of JFK - Americans will understand what a massive complement that was for Putin. Then everything changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56706955


And what should the whole world think of Obama then? His actions are much worse in the bigger picture. Putin may have planned to get rid of dollar - which is highly unlikely.
But now, every day of artifical support of dollar-based world economy is making impending fall worse.
It's like climbing very tall mountain knowing only way up. It's too cold and you'll die if you stop, but each step is making picture only worse. Obama is enthuasistically leading the way for others secretly owning a parachute to flee in the last moment. Putin - and other BRICS leaders - are looking around in search of gentle enough slope - using which everyone can be somewhat saved - even if with some broken limbs.

Being American you have a right to prioritize your country above others. But do not deny others the same right. Oh yeah, and you are in minority here - which, according to democracy principles, means that your opinion is slightly less important that the one of majority.
 Quoting: Tamonten


not only that.. he also seems to be claiming that Putin is a democrat crazy

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

A cute attempt at satire. I consider Putin to be a reformed Chekist, or I did prior to his Crimean adventure.
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thought so.

I doubt if Hindend knows either, although we've tried explaining it to him.

Question #2

What do you have againest Russia?

Be specific.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Putin, not Russia. In 2008, he called Beijing and asked them if their two nations could collaborate on a plan Putin had devised. The 08 collapse, when the very existence of the United States threatened and at serious risk of financial implosion, Putin wanted the Chinese to help him kill the dollar and America. Thank God the Chinese thought he had lost his mind and immediately called the WhiteHouse and ratted Putin out to the Americans. Up until that day, I thought Putin to be a modern incarnation of JFK - Americans will understand what a massive complement that was for Putin. Then everything changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56706955


so then, it sounds like you think the US should stage another coup d'état to get rid of Putin.

I suppose you think it's a good idea to get rid of Assad too.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Wrong on both counts. Anyone calling for Putin to leave outside of the democratic way he was elected, is a dangerous fool. Imagine the 'power vacuum' were Putin to be forced out. It would throw the entire continent into turmoil.

I want Putin and all his proxies out of Eastern Ukraine, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63380590

That is all every leader in most countries are asking Putin, get out of Ukraine. But Putin and his cronies are not only blind, they are deaf as well.
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Putin hides behind orthodox and Jewish faith and yet he is breaking all of the Ten Commandments of God. He is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. Its a wonder he is not snuggling up to Muslims as well because they are the ones that do not fear him and his evil ways.
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thought so.

I doubt if Hindend knows either, although we've tried explaining it to him.

Question #2

What do you have againest Russia?

Be specific.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Putin, not Russia. In 2008, he called Beijing and asked them if their two nations could collaborate on a plan Putin had devised. The 08 collapse, when the very existence of the United States threatened and at serious risk of financial implosion, Putin wanted the Chinese to help him kill the dollar and America. Thank God the Chinese thought he had lost his mind and immediately called the WhiteHouse and ratted Putin out to the Americans. Up until that day, I thought Putin to be a modern incarnation of JFK - Americans will understand what a massive complement that was for Putin. Then everything changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56706955


And what should the whole world think of Obama then? His actions are much worse in the bigger picture. Putin may have planned to get rid of dollar - which is highly unlikely.
But now, every day of artifical support of dollar-based world economy is making impending fall worse.
It's like climbing very tall mountain knowing only way up. It's too cold and you'll die if you stop, but each step is making picture only worse. Obama is enthuasistically leading the way for others secretly owning a parachute to flee in the last moment. Putin - and other BRICS leaders - are looking around in search of gentle enough slope - using which everyone can be somewhat saved - even if with some broken limbs.

Being American you have a right to prioritize your country above others. But do not deny others the same right. Oh yeah, and you are in minority here - which, according to democracy principles, means that your opinion is slightly less important that the one of majority.
 Quoting: Tamonten


not only that.. he also seems to be claiming that Putin is a democrat crazy

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

I know exactly the institutions responsible for the 08 collapse. I know how they did it. I understand the methodology and the vehicles they used to 'steal' the money and capital.
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Sorry I forgot, I am Chippey .peace
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OT - OFF TOPIC

Germany gets first socialist state governor since reunification


[link to www.theguardian.com] <50%
Former trade unionist Bodo Ramelow wins post for the Left [Die Linke] party amid massive protests against the regional election in Thuringia.
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Ramelow is a moderate member of Die Linke (the Left), which has its roots in the socialist party that ruled East Germany and makes no secret of its anti-Nato and pro-Russia stance. Ramelow will head a coalition of Die Linke, the Green party and the centre-left Social Democrats ...
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That is correct.
He is a known marxist.
We will see how it turns out.
THey now have a ubique chance to pove their system is better.
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Bazooking

New olympic games discipline from novorussia.





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