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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Once again Ukraine's government is fucking up royally. No operation until Easter ends? More ultimatums? All while pro-russian seperatists continue storming buildings. Obscene...
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It says a lot about countries who don't pay their bills.
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Just curious cuz I have no idea..but were the bills paid when Yanukovych was leading the country?
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It was reported he stole millions as well. But what he stole wouldn't have paid the tab. I wonder if there is any accounting whatsoever.
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Nelia Shtepa resigned as mayor Sloviansk

This official has become famous for her support for activists Antimaydana when they took control of a number of administrative buildings in Slovyansk, but then disappeared. The new mayor will be the national militia leader, who took control of the city, Vyacheslav Ponomarev. Now, apparently, Nelia Shtepa will not perform any administrative functions.

[link to lifenews.ru]
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You forgot the part where she came out and then said they were not locals who had taken over and she wanted them gone, and then she disappeared.
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no she first disappeared, was probably arrested and intimidated into lying...that's how those regimes work
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No you fucking Russian liar. She is disappeared NOW and has not been seen. The statements by her were one the 15th, FROM SLOVYANSK .... BEFORE she has now disappeared from there.
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NATO Commander Offers Evidence of Russian Troops in Ukraine

[link to abcnews.go.com]

^ THIS, Crimea style...

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It says a lot about countries who don't pay their bills.
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Just curious cuz I have no idea..but were the bills paid when Yanukovych was leading the country?
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Mostly but not entirely.
The debt now stands around USD2.3 billion it was perhaps a fifth of that.

What the EU has not caught on to (but they will and they will squeal) is that when Ukraine is put on prepayment terms those terms apply not just to gas for Ukraine but also to gas that transits through Ukraine.
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Once again Ukraine's government is fucking up royally. No operation until Easter ends? More ultimatums? All while pro-russian seperatists continue storming buildings. Obscene...
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It says a lot about countries who don't pay their bills.
 Quoting: pool


Just curious cuz I have no idea..but were the bills paid when Yanukovych was leading the country?
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It was reported he stole millions as well. But what he stole wouldn't have paid the tab. I wonder if there is any accounting whatsoever.
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Thanks Pool. Sure sounds like a sad state of affairs there.
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NATO Commander Offers Evidence of Russian Troops in Ukraine

[link to abcnews.go.com]

^ THIS, Crimea style...

explosion Tank explosion Tank

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evidence? laugh
his fantasy isn't evidence
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RT &#8207;@RT_com 1 min

#TYMOSHENKO: Ultimatum for #Russia is Thursday. If Geneva obligations not met, measures will be taken to remove occupants from #Ukraine

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Ultimatum for Russia?

"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Nelia Shtepa resigned as mayor Sloviansk

This official has become famous for her support for activists Antimaydana when they took control of a number of administrative buildings in Slovyansk, but then disappeared. The new mayor will be the national militia leader, who took control of the city, Vyacheslav Ponomarev. Now, apparently, Nelia Shtepa will not perform any administrative functions.

[link to lifenews.ru]
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


You forgot the part where she came out and then said they were not locals who had taken over and she wanted them gone, and then she disappeared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35104691

no she first disappeared, was probably arrested and intimidated into lying...that's how those regimes work
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No you fucking Russian liar. She is disappeared NOW and has not been seen. The statements by her were one the 15th, FROM SLOVYANSK .... BEFORE she has now disappeared from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35104691





greg white @whitegl·Apr 15
Slovyansk mayor apparently confirming it was 'little green men,' not locals, who took over - [link to 112.ua]



chris wynnyk wilson @CWynnykWilson·Apr 15
#SLAVYANSK MAYOR: TERRORISTS ARE FROM #RUSSIA & #CRIMEA
[link to obozrevatel.com]


Ola Cichowlas @olacicho·Apr 15
Slavyansk mayor: "The little green men don't hide that they are from Russia or from Crimea" [link to obozrevatel.com] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk says now that gunmen raiding police station came from "Crimea and Russia" and took locals hostage
[link to 112.ua] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk to Ukrainian tv: "I did what I had to do to free the hostages, the attackers were aggressive." [link to 112.ua] …





and NOW she has gone missing, believed to be taken hostage by the Russian terrorists.

One of the reasons that Slavyansk locals came out to protest today was to demand her release from the Russians. They cannot handle her truth being placed against their Russian lies and terrorism.





Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR·7 hrs
50ppl gathered by city council in #Sloviansk, demand to dismantle barricades, that armed ppl leave, liberate ex-mayor Shtepa

VIDEO and story - [link to hromadske.tv]

"In addition, they are demanding release of the Mayor, Nelya Shtepa who is kept hostage."
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Once again Ukraine's government is fucking up royally. No operation until Easter ends? More ultimatums? All while pro-russian seperatists continue storming buildings. Obscene...
 Quoting: < DL >


It says a lot about countries who don't pay their bills.
 Quoting: pool


Just curious cuz I have no idea..but were the bills paid when Yanukovych was leading the country?
 Quoting: JazzyG


It was reported he stole millions as well. But what he stole wouldn't have paid the tab. I wonder if there is any accounting whatsoever.
 Quoting: pool


millions? try $40 billion between him and his son and associates. Only $400,000 was left in the treasury when he fled.
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RT &#8207;@RT_com 1 min

#TYMOSHENKO: Ultimatum for #Russia is Thursday. If Geneva obligations not met, measures will be taken to remove occupants from #Ukraine

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I thought the US said Sunday.
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no she first disappeared, was probably arrested and intimidated into lying...that's how those regimes work
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


No you fucking Russian liar. She is disappeared NOW and has not been seen. The statements by her were one the 15th, FROM SLOVYANSK .... BEFORE she has now disappeared from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35104691





greg white @whitegl·Apr 15
Slovyansk mayor apparently confirming it was 'little green men,' not locals, who took over - [link to 112.ua]



chris wynnyk wilson @CWynnykWilson·Apr 15
#SLAVYANSK MAYOR: TERRORISTS ARE FROM #RUSSIA & #CRIMEA
[link to obozrevatel.com]


Ola Cichowlas @olacicho·Apr 15
Slavyansk mayor: "The little green men don't hide that they are from Russia or from Crimea" [link to obozrevatel.com] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk says now that gunmen raiding police station came from "Crimea and Russia" and took locals hostage
[link to 112.ua] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk to Ukrainian tv: "I did what I had to do to free the hostages, the attackers were aggressive." [link to 112.ua] …





and NOW she has gone missing, believed to be taken hostage by the Russian terrorists.

One of the reasons that Slavyansk locals came out to protest today was to demand her release from the Russians. They cannot handle her truth being placed against their Russian lies and terrorism.





Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR·7 hrs
50ppl gathered by city council in #Sloviansk, demand to dismantle barricades, that armed ppl leave, liberate ex-mayor Shtepa

VIDEO and story - [link to hromadske.tv]

"In addition, they are demanding release of the Mayor, Nelya Shtepa who is kept hostage."
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GrahamWPhillips &#8207;@GrahamWP_UK Apr 17
As for the 'little green men', spoken to 100s, kidnapped by them,think i'd do them any favours? They are not all angels. And are not Russian
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Yawn. He's an RT correspondent, and his pieces can be seen regularly on RT TV.
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RT &#8207;@RT_com 1 min

#TYMOSHENKO: Ultimatum for #Russia is Thursday. If Geneva obligations not met, measures will be taken to remove occupants from #Ukraine

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I thought the US said Sunday.
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Hope Putin doesn't give a shit
Most people think no need to discuss Ukraine future with US and EU clowns
It s Russia's business
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You forgot the part where she came out and then said they were not locals who had taken over and she wanted them gone, and then she disappeared.
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no she first disappeared, was probably arrested and intimidated into lying...that's how those regimes work
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


No you fucking Russian liar. She is disappeared NOW and has not been seen. The statements by her were one the 15th, FROM SLOVYANSK .... BEFORE she has now disappeared from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35104691





greg white @whitegl·Apr 15
Slovyansk mayor apparently confirming it was 'little green men,' not locals, who took over - [link to 112.ua]



chris wynnyk wilson @CWynnykWilson·Apr 15
#SLAVYANSK MAYOR: TERRORISTS ARE FROM #RUSSIA & #CRIMEA
[link to obozrevatel.com]


Ola Cichowlas @olacicho·Apr 15
Slavyansk mayor: "The little green men don't hide that they are from Russia or from Crimea" [link to obozrevatel.com] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk says now that gunmen raiding police station came from "Crimea and Russia" and took locals hostage
[link to 112.ua] …


Leena Liukkonen @LLHelsinki·Apr 15
Mayor of Slovyansk to Ukrainian tv: "I did what I had to do to free the hostages, the attackers were aggressive." [link to 112.ua] …





and NOW she has gone missing, believed to be taken hostage by the Russian terrorists.

One of the reasons that Slavyansk locals came out to protest today was to demand her release from the Russians. They cannot handle her truth being placed against their Russian lies and terrorism.





Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR·7 hrs
50ppl gathered by city council in #Sloviansk, demand to dismantle barricades, that armed ppl leave, liberate ex-mayor Shtepa

VIDEO and story - [link to hromadske.tv]

"In addition, they are demanding release of the Mayor, Nelya Shtepa who is kept hostage."
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Propaganda against Russia and Pro Russian Citizens and Protesters. Brought to you by, The nasty witch of Kiev self proclaimed puppet of the west. You know who.
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Tymoshenko has just left right now to go to negotiations with pro-Kremlin protest leaders.

It's just a political ply to boost herself. NO ONE should be negotiating with armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner. except only military and police. What is this country doing???
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Tymoshenko has just left right now to go to negotiations with pro-Kremlin protest leaders.

It's just a political ply to boost herself. NO ONE should be negotiating with armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner. except only military and police. What is this country doing???
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What the EU has not caught on to (but they will and they will squeal) is that when Ukraine is put on prepayment terms those terms apply not just to gas for Ukraine but also to gas that transits through Ukraine.
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I didn't know that; have you read this? I thought it was a separate line than the one for Ukraine.
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millions? try $40 billion between him and his son and associates. Only $400,000 was left in the treasury when he fled.
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WOW. So why did Putin like him so much?
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Tymoshenko has just left right now to go to negotiations with pro-Kremlin protest leaders.

It's just a political ply to boost herself. NO ONE should be negotiating with armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner. except only military and police. What is this country doing???
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You misunderstand.
When he wrote "armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner" he was referring to Tymoshenko.
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millions? try $40 billion between him and his son and associates. Only $400,000 was left in the treasury when he fled.
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WOW. So why did Putin like him so much?
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we have to admit Russia today is ruled by rich men, not by poor communists of Lenin's time. Many of them speak in favor of old monarchy or compare it to be better than the bolshevism. I would think of Putin as someone of that group although not their most vocal person. I can't see in Putin a communist or a heir of the Soviet leaders. He is different. May be Tsarist may be Putinist, whatever.
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Report of 70 billion stolen. But, no one likes this guy, so how imaginative is he?

[link to www.nbcnews.com]

New Ukraine Leader Yatseniuk Says Ousted Government Stole $70B

Photo ops with Putin and Yanukovych

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"We're not militia, we're Russian Spetsnaz GRU," [link to www.novayagazeta.ru]





The ATO partially continues but decesion has been made to hold off on major force use until Monday. Very stupid IMO


However, some actions are still being taken. The areas affected are being prgressively surrounded and road blocks set up.



Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR
TV broadcast center in #Kramatorsk is vacated from separatists, Rus TVchannels off air, Ukr to be on air soon. [link to novosti.dn.ua]



Anders Östlund @andersostlund
More and more reports about deep fear in #Donetsk keeping moderates and pro-Ukrainians away from the streets.
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Interfax headlines:

RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISARMAMENT IN UKRAINE, IT CONCERNS FIRSTLY TAKING ARMS FROM RIGHTS SECTOR, OTHER PRO-FASCIST GROUPS INVOLVED IN REVOLT IN KYIV

ULTIMATUM-LIKE NOTES IN U.S. OFFICIALS' STATEMENTS AND THREATS OF NEW SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA ARE ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY

WASHINGTON'S ASSESSMENT OF GENEVA TALKS DISAPPOINTING, U.S. TRIES PERSISTENTLY TO BLEACH UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES' ACTIONS ON FORCEFUL SUPPRESSION OF PROTESTS IN EAST - MOSCOW

Putin, Russian Security Council permanent members discuss situation in Ukraine
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Tymoshenko has just left right now to go to negotiations with pro-Kremlin protest leaders.

It's just a political ply to boost herself. NO ONE should be negotiating with armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner. except only military and police. What is this country doing???
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You misunderstand.
When he wrote "armed terrorist conducting themselves in this manner" he was referring to Tymoshenko.
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I don't know what are you talking about but he is shilling his ass off.
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04/18 18:50 RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISARMAMENT IN UKRAINE, IT CONCERNS FIRSTLY TAKING ARMS FROM RIGHTS SECTOR, OTHER PRO-FASCIST GROUPS INVOLVED IN REVOLT IN KYIV

04/18 18:49 ULTIMATUM-LIKE NOTES IN U.S. OFFICIALS' STATEMENTS AND THREATS OF NEW SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA ARE ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY

04/18 18:47 WASHINGTON'S ASSESSMENT OF GENEVA TALKS DISAPPOINTING, U.S. TRIES PERSISTENTLY TO BLEACH UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES' ACTIONS ON FORCEFUL SUPPRESSION OF PROTESTS IN EAST - MOSCOW

04/18 18:46 Putin, Russian Security Council permanent members discuss situation in Ukraine
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Transcript #Putin April 17 Q&A: his statements contravene both his previous statements and signed #Geneva agreement [link to www.washingtonpost.com] …

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Acting #Ukraine Foreign Minister:#Geneva agreement on release of captured government buildings does not apply to legitimate #Maidan in #Kiev

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This just shows me that Russia is in completely over its head when it comes to media wars. Silence is assent with respect to claims like this and you have to react quickly to become part of the narrative. Russia probably has to go through some sort of stupid beaurocratic system of approvals before it responds to anything publicly. They need to denounce this almost in real time if they don't want to take the entire blame for the deal falling through. That was evidently the intent from the start as Obama's comments indicated right afterwards. Starting to believe the Russian's aren't very competent.
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Only $400,000 was left in the treasury when he fled.
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Plus USD1.4Billion in gold bullion that was promptly stolen by Germany.
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Russian_Market opinion, I agree

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It looks like the Geneva talks on Ukraine failed.
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Ukraine FM Deshchytsia: We don't have any agreement that the government in Kyiv should be changed first.





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