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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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For those that don't already know - these are the two main streams from inside Ukraine:

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

They're showing major protests and rallies from Odessa, Kiev, and Moscow at the moment.

All pro- Ukraine, anti-War, and for peace (even if that's not what everyone here is wishing for)
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There is a treaty that says Turkey can not block Russian ships unless a state of war exists between Turkey and Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011


As with the Budapest Memorandum, treaties are subject to being changed or ignored. If Turkey needs a sweetener, the US might offer them concessions in Syria for later, or perhaps the EU might finally give them a final nudge.

It's sort of ridiculous for the west to follow rules to the letter when the Russians obviously are playing by a totally different set of principles.
 Quoting: Double O Zero


sorry to disrupt the highly interlectual discussion but you are talking about a nuclear superpower with modern weapons and a huge 6th fleet, around 600 ships.

and you want to to block them? close to their main land. sure.

russia would send 5000 battle tanks and 500.000 soldiers through georgia into turkey and turkey would surrender.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55050834


You make it sound as if any effort to stop Russia would be somewhat futile. It's not like there aren't a few countries between Russia and Turkey. Plus, they have a pretty formidable army, historical links to Crimea, and at least a historical antipathy for Russia.

Thus far, the only real alternative anyone else seems to propose from a western perspective is to simply give the Russians what they want.

I don't think Russia wants a war with NATO anymore than NATO wants a war with Russia, but if someone else can suggest anything with consequences sufficient to make them stop, I'm all ears.

Even if this is all orchestrated, just pretend for a moment and see if you can come up with anything. For the record, I don't think NATO will do anything but talk, but if Russia just swallows Ukraine, I can't imagine this will lead to a happier, more prosperous future for anyone except some defense contractors.
 Quoting: Double O Zero



yes between russia and turkey is georgia:)

[link to gdb.rferl.org]

would be a really bad decision to provoke russia anymore.

on the rest i agree with you.
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Just woke up. Where do we stand since midnight EST?
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to think now that the world titters on a razors edge on some 18 or 19 year old not getting scared or nervous and pulling the trigger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17507338


hesright

I think at this point it's a matter of when the shooting starts, not if. Of course how it ends up after that is anyone's guess.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


We are one pace away from catastrophe at the moment - it would require one foolish act, a trigger happy Russian soldier, a Ukrainian guard who acts aggressively at one of these institutions taken over by Russian supporters, a foolish act now could tip us over the edge.

11.25 Paddy Ashdown
 Quoting: Unit 88


I think I said it better and I said it before he did and I am not even on twitter maybe I should get on and become a reporter of twats.
roflrofl
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Russia has past experience beating up Nazis.
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11:38: Chris Dancer in St Helens, UK emails: 100 years since 1914 and we are still doing this? Trying to solve disputes by moving soldiers into other people's countries? It makes you want to scream.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Idiot!!!!
It's okey when the west bombs the shot out of Middle East countries for oil and power!! But when Russia goes in to protect a little area in a former Sovjet part, they scream like little babies!!!
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RT NEWS sure as hell aint going to show you anything. moran.
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Just woke up. Where do we stand since midnight EST?
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Worse!!
Ukraine at war with Russia!!
At least verbal

hiding
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LMAO

: Turchinov, Ukraine has cliosed airspace for everything but civilian transport #euromaidan
 Quoting: Limpan


That makes a warped form of sense lol. I wouldn't be all that keen in flying over Ukraine in anything at this point though.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


yeh. with their squadrons of surplus Yugoslavian Mig-15s patrolling the skies, no one is safe.
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The Ukrainian airforce uses Mig-29s and Su-27s...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


An omen? The lead designer of the MiG died yesterday. [link to www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk]
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Why does the BBC keep publishing emails from random idiots on their live feed
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They do this because they are not random idiots. They have fake Ukrainians tweeting anti-Russia propaganda.
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RT NEWS sure as hell aint going to show you anything. moran.
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hesright
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to think now that the world titters on a razors edge on some 18 or 19 year old not getting scared or nervous and pulling the trigger.
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"Teeters". I don't think many of us are laughing.
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11:38: Chris Dancer in St Helens, UK emails: 100 years since 1914 and we are still doing this? Trying to solve disputes by moving soldiers into other people's countries? It makes you want to scream.
 Quoting: Unit 88


I hate these left wing retards they think they're so smart and enlightened
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For those that don't already know - these are the two main streams from inside Ukraine:

[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

They're showing major protests and rallies from Odessa, Kiev, and Moscow at the moment.

All pro- Ukraine, anti-War, and for peace (even if that's not what everyone here is wishing for)
hf
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Pussy Riot?
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11:38: Chris Dancer in St Helens, UK emails: 100 years since 1914 and we are still doing this? Trying to solve disputes by moving soldiers into other people's countries? It makes you want to scream.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Idiot!!!!
It's okey when the west bombs the shot out of Middle East countries for oil and power!! But when Russia goes in to protect a little area in a former Sovjet part, they scream like little babies!!!
 Quoting: Limpan


+1 its russian land STOP bitchin about it
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@paulmasonnews : If it comes to shooting, Ukraine crisis means goodbye global economic order - [link to t.co]
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Time for all Slavs to raise up now. Bosna srpska, all and fight fascists
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NATO will not do anything!!!

whatever
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Szilard Szocs in Budapest, Hungary

emails: I'm deeply concerned about the current escalation of the events. So far, it also gives me much anxiety that Hungary - as a member of the EU and the North Atlantic treaty, as well as a neighbour to Ukraine - we still fail to make a bold statement about the situation and oppose any kind of aggression which threatens sovereignty. I don't know how the heroes of the 1956 Hungarian revolution would feel about this.


Lol every Hungarian I've talked to is still pissed off at Ukraine for stealing their land.
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Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
That limits NATO movements a lot, they won't be able to do anything about the situation in Ukraine

-Swedish Generalmajor, Military expert.

He then continued...

The only country that can intervene in Ukraine is USA.
But that won't happened either. He will however keep threatening Putin to "isolate" Russia.

But that won't only hurt Russia. That will hurt the entire worlds economy.
 Quoting: Falter


the U.S. is gonna go up against the Russian Mafia?



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Time for all Slavs to raise up now. Bosna srpska, all and fight fascists
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yes time to fight EU fascist.
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I tried CNN to get some news but it turns out they're doing some dumb morning show.
So no luck there.

Anyone got a live link of the war???
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There is a treaty that says Turkey can not block Russian ships unless a state of war exists between Turkey and Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011


As with the Budapest Memorandum, treaties are subject to being changed or ignored. If Turkey needs a sweetener, the US might offer them concessions in Syria for later, or perhaps the EU might finally give them a final nudge.

It's sort of ridiculous for the west to follow rules to the letter when the Russians obviously are playing by a totally different set of principles.
 Quoting: Double O Zero


sorry to disrupt the highly interlectual discussion but you are talking about a nuclear superpower with modern weapons and a huge 6th fleet, around 600 ships.

and you want to to block them? close to their main land. sure.

russia would send 5000 battle tanks and 500.000 soldiers through georgia into turkey and turkey would surrender.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55050834


You make it sound as if any effort to stop Russia would be somewhat futile. It's not like there aren't a few countries between Russia and Turkey.
 Quoting: Double O Zero


And what countries would that be?
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Just woke up. Where do we stand since midnight EST?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40631819


Worse!!
Ukraine at war with Russia!!
At least verbal

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


Well that's better than I thought. Fully expected to awaken to a hot war. Thx for the info.

hf
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I feel very sad when I see this.

God bless us all
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11:38: Chris Dancer in St Helens, UK emails: 100 years since 1914 and we are still doing this? Trying to solve disputes by moving soldiers into other people's countries? It makes you want to scream.
 Quoting: Unit 88


I hate these left wing retards they think they're so smart and enlightened
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You're an arse
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Why does the BBC keep publishing emails from random idiots on their live feed
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I am guessing the BBC redirects those same idiots to glp , because we seem to have a lot of the same nonsense posted on various threads .lol
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max seddon ‏@maxseddon · 34 sec
Ukrainians have driven a tank to gates. Column of Russians marching towards base. Priest shamelessly posing by troops for foreign journos
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max seddon ‏@maxseddon · 34 sec
Ukrainians have driven a tank to gates. Column of Russians marching towards base. Priest shamelessly posing by troops for foreign journos
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how about he takes out his smartphone and takes some pictures or videos??
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DefenceToday.com reports Ukraine has closed its airspace





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