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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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i'm here again! Few hours out and a lot happening...
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Who here thinks that the US is at defcon 4? I do
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Probably closer to level 2
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It has to be elevated... I agree at least a 4 maybe higher
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DEFCON in order of Severity is 5...4...3...2...1
SO 5 is normal peacetime
and 1 would be nuclear conflict is imminent
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That^
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Apparently, this is finally maybe confirmed

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Ex-president of #Ukraine #Yanukovich and his two sons are in #Russia [link to comments.ua] …
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i'm here again! Few hours out and a lot happening...
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Check out the video of the CNN segment
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On CNN just now "It appears that Russia is getting prepared to pounce" hiding
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pounce on who ??

the ukraine military & the new government ?

or who really?
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If 2000 Americans stormed the capital and parliament and stated that we just elected a new government, would it be valid?

Would we have to be recognized?

if we did so with weapons and money provided by a foreign country, could we then say that the American politicians must recognize the will of the people and the newly elected government?

Well, that is EXACTLY what the US (and you for that matter) are saying about these thugs.

So if it is that simple to overthrow a government, why are Americans not doing it?

Oh, that's right. The politicians would NEVER allow themselves to be replaced and they would KILL every single person that stormed the buildings before they relinquished their power.

But why, this is Ukraine. What is good for the goose is NOT good for the gander, right?

bsflag
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Nice reality check that makes sense...unfortunately a rare commodity nowadays...
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EVERYTHING IS CALM I CAN ENSURE YOU THE US ARE DEFCON 5
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Russia to expand its worldwide military presence

[link to news.yahoo.com]


Fresh off the press, about 15 mins ago
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the beast will rise out of the sea.... RUSSIA
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Is this true?

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#Russia #Ukraine 6TH Guards Army on alert this was the unit that retook #Kharkov from The Nazi's coincidence?
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
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^ Ain't that the truth
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Jon Williams ‏@WilliamsJon · 9 min
Russian troops control main access to Sevastopol. Military checkpoint set up with Russian flag inside #Ukraine. [link to fw.to]


Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller · 11 min
Asked about Russian war games, @jearnest44 said the US aware of those reports. Urged Russia live up to treaty obligations on transparecy.


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i'm here again! Few hours out and a lot happening...
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Welcome Back Luis hf
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Is this true?

Johan ‏@Udlah 1m

#Russia #Ukraine 6TH Guards Army on alert this was the unit that retook #Kharkov from The Nazi's coincidence?
 Quoting: Wrath O' Luna
During the Belgorod-Kharkov operation the army along with the 1st Panzer Army and other troops of the Voronezh Front held at 80-90 km, beating Kharkov enemy forces from the west, so were released Belgorod (August 5) and Kharkov (August 23).
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On CNN just now "It appears that Russia is getting prepared to pounce" hiding
 Quoting: Canuck_Hillbilly


pounce on who ??

the ukraine military & the new government ?

or who really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954576


If 2000 Americans stormed the capital and parliament and stated that we just elected a new government, would it be valid?

Would we have to be recognized?

if we did so with weapons and money provided by a foreign country, could we then say that the American politicians must recognize the will of the people and the newly elected government?

Well, that is EXACTLY what the US (and you for that matter) are saying about these thugs.

So if it is that simple to overthrow a government, why are Americans not doing it?

Oh, that's right. The politicians would NEVER allow themselves to be replaced and they would KILL every single person that stormed the buildings before they relinquished their power.

But why, this is Ukraine. What is good for the goose is NOT good for the gander, right?

bsflag
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Nice reality check that makes sense...unfortunately a rare commodity nowadays...
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well i think it has more to do with him letting the people believe the deal would be with europe, then changing his mind at the last minute. that pissed off the ukraines. then snipers following his orders to shoot protesters made it worse.
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Jon Williams ‏@WilliamsJon · 9 min
Russian troops control main access to Sevastopol. Military checkpoint set up with Russian flag inside #Ukraine. [link to fw.to]


Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller · 11 min
Asked about Russian war games, @jearnest44 said the US aware of those reports. Urged Russia live up to treaty obligations on transparecy.



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Welcome back my friend! Everybody is pretty much feeling like

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Here ya go! What do you guys think of this? Sorry for the low audio.


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bump
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
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^ Ain't that the truth
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But each time we add a new potential flashpoint to the increasing tally it does ramp up the probability it'll all go wrong..
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Here ya go! What do you guys think of this? Sorry for the low audio.


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bump
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bumpbump
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
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Indeed. Of course that got very close to happening and only didn't because Obama flip-flopped at the last second. IMHO Obama doesn't have the luxury of being able to get away with flip-flopping here. Unless he wants to be a diplomatic dead duck for two years he needs to either flat out tell Russia that the US will not intervene on behalf Ukraine, or he has to be very clear that they will and be prepared to back it up even in the face of Tea Party pressure in Congress.
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I think we need to start to think of the bigger picture here. We need to know if their are any western military movement specifically German, UK and USA regarding Russia. Can anyone find out?
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don't know about specific movements seems to be quite quiet on the UK front they usually drum up with Rhetoric Cameron hasn't even said much if anything at all same with Putin Obama on the other hand has, we in Europe know that this is more than just a case of toe to toe and sipping champagne at the end Europe will be desolated and our continent will be in a 3rd world state for generations to come, the US mainland if at all hit will be Nuked...

It was said on skynews the other day that there has been talk amongst military officials in regards to committing UK forces in Europe for the 1st time after WW2, note the language used we have obviously had forces in Europe since WW2 so what was meant by committing UK forces, As for French forces the was more talk of CAR...

Not specific I know sorry buddy hf
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Here ya go! What do you guys think of this? Sorry for the low audio.


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bump
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They're prepping the sheeple for war!
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Putin has to do something or euromaidans will start happening in Moscow and Petersburg soon. But his options are limited. it's either replay of a Georgian scenario or open global war against NATO. First will be difficult because Ukraine ain't some backwater place with less than one tenth of it's population and there is no chance in second.
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Why Not Second Option.

Is it not time to end this charade of the world once and for all?
What do you think?
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Russia to expand its worldwide military presence

[link to news.yahoo.com]


Fresh off the press, about 15 mins ago
 Quoting: Wrath O' Luna


The military was conducting talks with Algeria, Cyprus, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, Seychelles, Vietnam and Singapore.
He said that it was essential for the Russian navy to be able to call at their ports to service its ships.
Shoigu said Russia was also talking to some of those countries asking them to allow long-range bombers to use their air bases for refueling.

Tom 15 minutes ago
Interesting that this comes on Hagel's call to reduce the US military to pre WWII levels.
Is Russia reacting or is this choreographed?
[link to news.yahoo.com]

Looks like America is spreading the legs for Russians...
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sheep raw!
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Here ya go! What do you guys think of this? Sorry for the low audio.


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bump
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bumpbump
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They're prepping the sheeple for war!
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YESbump
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Here ya go! What do you guys think of this? Sorry for the low audio.


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bump
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bumpbump
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bumpbumpbump
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350 Pages Luis!!!!5a
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
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It very much was.
Putin said no.
Bammy blinked.
Now who blinks first over Ukraine?
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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I think we need to start to think of the bigger picture here. We need to know if their are any western military movement specifically German, UK and USA regarding Russia. Can anyone find out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45246126


don't know about specific movements seems to be quite quiet on the UK front they usually drum up with Rhetoric Cameron hasn't even said much if anything at all same with Putin Obama on the other hand has, we in Europe know that this is more than just a case of toe to toe and sipping champagne at the end Europe will be desolated and our continent will be in a 3rd world state for generations to come, the US mainland if at all hit will be Nuked...

It was said on skynews the other day that there has been talk amongst military officials in regards to committing UK forces in Europe for the 1st time after WW2, note the language used we have obviously had forces in Europe since WW2 so what was meant by committing UK forces, As for French forces the was more talk of CAR...

Not specific I know sorry buddy hf
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Angela Merkel will be in the UK tomorrow for tiffin with Cameron, then tea and biccies with Queenie... I know it will be smothered in EU rethoric as was Camerons chat and Brize Norton with Hollande, Cameron and Hollande still deepened Anglo-French military agreements, and I am sure Cameron and Merkel will be chatting about Ukraine..
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54862976


It very much was.
Putin said no.
Bammy blinked.
Now who blinks first over Ukraine?
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Obama does
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Who knows how this will turn out?

Six months ago we were all convinced that a strike on Syria was in the works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54862976


It very much was.
Putin said no.
Bammy blinked.
Now who blinks first over Ukraine?
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It won't be Putin. Ukraine is much closer to home than Syria was....
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