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Russian Tanks will roll on Constantinople. (hope the bridge holds up :)
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Turkey will be delivered to the Eurasian Union without a shot being fired. Erdogan and the Islamic project are about to be swept away and a Pro-Russian/Chinese coalition will take over. Watch.
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@DRUDGE_REPORT 2m
SANCTION WARS: PUTIN TO RETALIATE
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China...well that is interesting now
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


That will make the Putin shills here think twice. Great news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27089795


Calling people "Putin Shills" while getting all googly about China's supposed about face makes you sound tardish and SHILL'n
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Don't dry bro. hahahh
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It's a EuromaidanPR post.
Day Advertising Money: $62798
Revenues: $26744

That's from a whois on one of their sites. That's a deficit. Where's the extra $36,000 coming from?

I can't find any other source about China agreeing with the west. All I can find is they don't wanna say jack either way.
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I'm gonna go back to the Ison doom threads.
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Russian bear rampage .........

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Putin had best not go a little too far and get a general conflict going. Chinese might occupy some cold resource rich unpopulated territories as their "contribution" to the "coalition". Stranger things have happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


Funny you mention this. A Ukrainian truck driver who gave me a lift in California recently, told me that Russian towns near the Chinese border are majority Chinese. He made a good point that China could easily split Russia in half as central Russia has little to no population or defense. He thinks they will eventually do this and take a big chunk of Russia's natural resources. And china could do this easily. Russia has an aging population and half the young are hooked on drugs and vodka. China would win, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13026208


Russia has a doctrine of pre-emptive use of nuclear weapons if losing a conventional war on its homeland.

China will be happy to lease some land as they have in Ukraine and other parts of the world. Coming with money is easier than coming with guns.
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To all of you who think Putin is a great leader: Do you support the closure of TV channels which broadcast messages the Kremlin don't like?

Russia is ranked 148th in the world on the press freedom index. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

That's not to say our press is totally free either. Our media is sometimes tricked by false flags. I'm sure we have plenty of spies infiltrating our news networks. There are also corrupt journalists selling their souls in the marketplace for propaganda.

On the press freedom index the United States is ranked 32nd and Britain is 29th. Not the most fantastic scores but still significantly better than Russia.

It's good to question things but we also need some perspective. Putin is not a great symbol of freedom and democracy.
 Quoting: RBR


Please go on US television and speak of the 9/11 incident and go on TV in your country and speak of the banking cartel or pedo rings leading to highest positions even royal family.

See where you go - good luck!

Russia is curbing the NGO propaganda that has formed the wonderful Arab Springs - with over 900 NGO's, I'd say there's a little more "freedom" in regards to politics, expression of opinion and journalism than anywhere else. How many Russian funded NGO's are operating? 2 - a whopping 2. 1 in France and 1 in the North America.

Freedom and democracy is not a blue print that can be applied to each country the same way. Won't work. So that' slogan is a bit worn out.
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Well the tabloid press keep going on about the princess Diana conspiracy theories, so there is at-least some freedom.

I agree that there are problems. It's probably got a lot to do with the fact that our journalists come from universities where they are taught to get their information from authority.

Most of the people I went to university with wouldn't touch conspiracy theories with a barge pole because they have a soft, gentle, naive view of the world.

They don't understand that the police and intelligence agencies can be corrupt. They've never heard of fascist satanism. They don't know that there are sociopaths in our government. They haven't taken the time to think about how ideas of the British empire could motivate people to manipulate the media.

It's a kind of self censorship.
 Quoting: RBR


Good point, that's part of the reason only though. Look who owns all the major publications in your country, look at which boards they sit and then do the same thing globally.

All run by the same people with an agenda carefully protecting their own interests. When someone dances out of the line and does his own thing, he's quickly eliminated, and there's several ways to do that. Discredit, smear by various scandals either sexual or financial, block/ban/ruin their outlet or worse!

But don't worry, they can't stop the flow of info - it will soon catch up with them. Big wake up call happened in your Parliament when Syria was voted against - that was real people power. It can happen and will happen again, soon. And then its game over.
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Man, you just woke some poor lost soul. You have the power!
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WOAH!!!!

Aileen Coletti ‏@AColettiGotHeem 5m
“@BarentsObserver: BREAKING: Nuclear submarine "Krasnodar" on fire at Nerpa shipyard on Russia's Kola Peninsula."

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K-148 Krasnodar Project 949A
Laid down: 22 July 1982
Launched: 3 March 1985
Commissioned: 30 September 1986
Retired, scrapping began in late 2012.
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Russian Tanks will roll on Constantinople. (hope the bridge holds up :)
 Quoting: cats88


Turkey will be delivered to the Eurasian Union without a shot being fired. Erdogan and the Islamic project are about to be swept away and a Pro-Russian/Chinese coalition will take over. Watch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55740601


in the near term Putin needs to secure the entire Black Sea region for Russia.

but you are right: China and Russia definitely have an agenda together. and there is most certainly method to their madness.
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Alongside a new constitution for a federalized Ukraine, the undated document – which is written in Russian and English – calls for:

a return to the EU-brokered peace deal of Feb. 21, which left Mr. Yanukovych (who fled the next day) as president until new elections could be held in Ukraine
new elections to be held after a national referendum on Ukraine’s new constitution (potentially extending the disgraced Mr. Yanukovych’s presidency into 2015)
Russian to be made an official language, alongside Ukrainian, in the entire country
the result of Sunday’s referendum in Crimea “be recognized and respected”
Ukraine to adopt a “neutral military and political status” in return for guarantees of its territorial integrity from Russia, the U.S. and the EU.

In other words, Russia is demanding that the West completely betray those who stood on Kiev’s Independence Square for three months demanding change in their country. The protesters would have to swallow the return of the ousted Mr. Yanukovych, plus the end of their dream of joining the EU.

For good measure, Moscow would get the U.S. and EU to recognize its coming annexation of Crimea.
[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]
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NO fighting in the war glp thread!!
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Thats at least two sub fires in Russia I can recall in the last year.
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that is not coincidence. It is true the russian industrial conditions of work are far less secure than the western ones. But, a second submarine in so little time? Putin said he put the priority on submarine nuclear fleet as much as on ICBM. I would assume this is a sabotage unless proven otherwise.
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Do you understand what "decomissioning" means for a ship?
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Thats at least two sub fires in Russia I can recall in the last year.
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that is not coincidence. It is true the russian industrial conditions of work are far less secure than the western ones. But, a second submarine in so little time? Putin said he put the priority on submarine nuclear fleet as much as on ICBM. I would assume this is a sabotage unless proven otherwise.
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Do you understand what "decomissioning" means for a ship?
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they most certainly have already pulled all the fuel rods on that thing.

and there's always some fool setting shit on fire with his cutting torch.

no big deal.
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RT @gullivercragg: Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously
 Quoting: Newshunter


That's a pretty obvious idea.
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And why not also from the north, primarily from Russia if they intend to stay East of Kiev in the North?
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china wow. didn't know we are friends now. lets imagine ww3 will be all the world vs ruskies.. lol
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I doubt they are friends. They just don't recognize the referendum as legal.

nothing to do with China being ailed with western nations in a war.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


I wouldnt read much into anything China says regarding any subject.
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Westerners have no idea. It is the biggest Mafia in the world.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Thats at least two sub fires in Russia I can recall in the last year.
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that is not coincidence. It is true the russian industrial conditions of work are far less secure than the western ones. But, a second submarine in so little time? Putin said he put the priority on submarine nuclear fleet as much as on ICBM. I would assume this is a sabotage unless proven otherwise.
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Do you understand what "decomissioning" means for a ship?
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That guy needs more brainpower to understand that!
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Please go on US television and speak of the 9/11 incident and go on TV in your country and speak of the banking cartel or pedo rings leading to highest positions even royal family.

See where you go - good luck!

Russia is curbing the NGO propaganda that has formed the wonderful Arab Springs - with over 900 NGO's, I'd say there's a little more "freedom" in regards to politics, expression of opinion and journalism than anywhere else. How many Russian funded NGO's are operating? 2 - a whopping 2. 1 in France and 1 in the North America.

Freedom and democracy is not a blue print that can be applied to each country the same way. Won't work. So that' slogan is a bit worn out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55745995


Well the tabloid press keep going on about the princess Diana conspiracy theories, so there is at-least some freedom.

I agree that there are problems. It's probably got a lot to do with the fact that our journalists come from universities where they are taught to get their information from authority.

Most of the people I went to university with wouldn't touch conspiracy theories with a barge pole because they have a soft, gentle, naive view of the world.

They don't understand that the police and intelligence agencies can be corrupt. They've never heard of fascist satanism. They don't know that there are sociopaths in our government. They haven't taken the time to think about how ideas of the British empire could motivate people to manipulate the media.

It's a kind of self censorship.
 Quoting: RBR


Good point, that's part of the reason only though. Look who owns all the major publications in your country, look at which boards they sit and then do the same thing globally.

All run by the same people with an agenda carefully protecting their own interests. When someone dances out of the line and does his own thing, he's quickly eliminated, and there's several ways to do that. Discredit, smear by various scandals either sexual or financial, block/ban/ruin their outlet or worse!

But don't worry, they can't stop the flow of info - it will soon catch up with them. Big wake up call happened in your Parliament when Syria was voted against - that was real people power. It can happen and will happen again, soon. And then its game over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55745995


Man, you just woke some poor lost soul. You have the power!
yoda
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Yup....Egypt guy is like a breath of fresh air for this thread.
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Russian Tanks will roll on Constantinople. (hope the bridge holds up :)
 Quoting: cats88


Turkey will be delivered to the Eurasian Union without a shot being fired. Erdogan and the Islamic project are about to be swept away and a Pro-Russian/Chinese coalition will take over. Watch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55740601


Erdogan is a 30% leader... So is Obama actually. Meaning they rule with 30% or less of actual popular support...

The last TWO Republican candidates, McCain and Romney were consistent 30%ers in the GOP primary races... Bush in 2000 was a 60%er.

So yes, it's possible that the hardcore islamist turn at robbing the Turkish people is just about over as secular and moderate forces join to sweep them away.
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The Ukrainian decision to move their army closer to the Russian border will only make it easier for Russian forces to destroy what little military equipment they can manage to push forward... A very stupid move.

It will make it easier to destroy their shit using shorter range weapons while remaining on Russian territory.

If those asshole Nazis had any brains, they would be moving ALL their shit across the border into Poland. Instead of right up in the Russians face... Dumbfucks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49032698


The Ukrainian army is not as small and weak as you think. It still has hundreds of tanks, as well as powerful MLRS "Uragan"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
It has multiple air defense systems S-300 and S-200, and many more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55743664


The question is: is anyone properly trained to use them? And: how many are loyal enough to the junta to use them? Remember the mass defections in Iraq?
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RT ‏@RT_com · 5 min
Independence from Rome! #Venice floating away unnoticed as #Crimea steals show @IrinaGalushkoRT
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Scumbag Putin:

CLAIMS CRIMEA IS SOVEREIGN

AFTER HE INVADES IT
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Erhh, not really an invasion when (i) troops are already there, (ii) constitutional president requests help, and (iii) parliament of the (autonomous) republic invites you .... All of this versus a demand of "get back to your bases" from an unelected junta ....
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MOSCOW – Russia’s deputy prime minister laughed off President Obama’s sanction against him today asking “Comrade @BarackObama” if “some prankster” came up with the list.

[link to abcnews.go.com]
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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3000 Russian intel personnel (mainly SIGINT) moving to Finnish border...wonder why? [link to barentsobserver.com] … HT @MarkGaleotti
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Putin had best not go a little too far and get a general conflict going. Chinese might occupy some cold resource rich unpopulated territories as their "contribution" to the "coalition". Stranger things have happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


Funny you mention this. A Ukrainian truck driver who gave me a lift in California recently, told me that Russian towns near the Chinese border are majority Chinese. He made a good point that China could easily split Russia in half as central Russia has little to no population or defense. He thinks they will eventually do this and take a big chunk of Russia's natural resources. And china could do this easily. Russia has an aging population and half the young are hooked on drugs and vodka. China would win, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13026208


Russia has a doctrine of pre-emptive use of nuclear weapons if losing a conventional war on its homeland.

China will be happy to lease some land as they have in Ukraine and other parts of the world. Coming with money is easier than coming with guns.
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And far more civilized.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Please go on US television and speak of the 9/11 incident and go on TV in your country and speak of the banking cartel or pedo rings leading to highest positions even royal family.

See where you go - good luck!

Russia is curbing the NGO propaganda that has formed the wonderful Arab Springs - with over 900 NGO's, I'd say there's a little more "freedom" in regards to politics, expression of opinion and journalism than anywhere else. How many Russian funded NGO's are operating? 2 - a whopping 2. 1 in France and 1 in the North America.

Freedom and democracy is not a blue print that can be applied to each country the same way. Won't work. So that' slogan is a bit worn out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55745995


Well the tabloid press keep going on about the princess Diana conspiracy theories, so there is at-least some freedom.

I agree that there are problems. It's probably got a lot to do with the fact that our journalists come from universities where they are taught to get their information from authority.

Most of the people I went to university with wouldn't touch conspiracy theories with a barge pole because they have a soft, gentle, naive view of the world.

They don't understand that the police and intelligence agencies can be corrupt. They've never heard of fascist satanism. They don't know that there are sociopaths in our government. They haven't taken the time to think about how ideas of the British empire could motivate people to manipulate the media.

It's a kind of self censorship.
 Quoting: RBR


Good point, that's part of the reason only though. Look who owns all the major publications in your country, look at which boards they sit and then do the same thing globally.

All run by the same people with an agenda carefully protecting their own interests. When someone dances out of the line and does his own thing, he's quickly eliminated, and there's several ways to do that. Discredit, smear by various scandals either sexual or financial, block/ban/ruin their outlet or worse!

But don't worry, they can't stop the flow of info - it will soon catch up with them. Big wake up call happened in your Parliament when Syria was voted against - that was real people power. It can happen and will happen again, soon. And then its game over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55745995


Man, you just woke some poor lost soul. You have the power!
yoda
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The power is with us, the people. And they know it. We outnumber them and they are scared! yoda
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Ukraine officials pleading with US to provide military aid, lawmaker says

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Fuck I say give them ICBM's lets see every one shit there

pant then, better yet Ukraine should just go and meltdown

there nuclear reactors get a whole bunch of Fukashimas

going. because shit who want to live forever

/sacs off but that would be funny has fuck to see every

body reaction roflrofl
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Ukraine is able to mobilize up to 1 million soldiers.
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Yeah, right, after their desperate plea to defend Ukraine from Russian forces on their border yielded a pathetic 40,000 men out of an approximately 12 million-man pool - that's a whopping 0.33% of eligible men!
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Putin had best not go a little too far and get a general conflict going. Chinese might occupy some cold resource rich unpopulated territories as their "contribution" to the "coalition". Stranger things have happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55412272


Funny you mention this. A Ukrainian truck driver who gave me a lift in California recently, told me that Russian towns near the Chinese border are majority Chinese. He made a good point that China could easily split Russia in half as central Russia has little to no population or defense. He thinks they will eventually do this and take a big chunk of Russia's natural resources. And china could do this easily. Russia has an aging population and half the young are hooked on drugs and vodka. China would win, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13026208


Russia has a doctrine of pre-emptive use of nuclear weapons if losing a conventional war on its homeland.

China will be happy to lease some land as they have in Ukraine and other parts of the world. Coming with money is easier than coming with guns.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


The man being touted by Putin to run Russia’s official news agency, Russia Today has publicly announced that Russia is the only country on planet earth that is capable of turing America in to radioactive dust.

He specifialy mentions Russia's 'dead hand system' that could be used to destroy the United States in a counter attack.
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RT ‏@RT_com · 5 min
Independence from Rome! #Venice floating away unnoticed as #Crimea steals show @IrinaGalushkoRT
 Quoting: Luisport


its totally fake, im trying to say this so many times. There is no referendum, no venice secession LOL, RT is kinda desperate. There is a "separaitist" party in Italy, Lega Nord, but has nothing to do with this bullshit.
Sometimes some awful local association try to make these things and start collecting people consents but everytime all ends there.
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so, has Obunghole drawn another red line yet?

(Hey! somebody take his crayons away from him, for cry'in out loud, for crysake. sheeeesh)


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