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#Ukrainian soldiers that crossed border to seek help at russian hospitals [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …


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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 7 min.
The gist of #Putin's 0140 am press release: Humanitarian corridors necessary to #MH17 site,and security required.. troops? #Ukraine #cdnpoli
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


yes. this is entirely a Ukrainian Government problem (it's on Ukraine land).
and Putin wants no part of this 3 ring circus.

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Do you seriously think that Zionist Talmudic dual Israeli citizens in Russia have different goals to those in DC? Their joint goal is to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem after they demolish the Dome of the Rock. Now you both seem to be almost defending the Russian Talmudic Jews. That appears to be a difficult position to support historically, factually and logically. The crimes committed in Russia and Ukraine by western funded jews in the 20th Century were so horiffic it boggles the mind. What is Putin doing with these devil worshippers so close to him? They (as leaders of the revolution and the NKVD) shot the last czar, murdered millions of middle class Russians and Ukrainians and starved millions of poorer Ukrainians and also Russians.


This is history that I agree with, but how can you prove Putin is controlled by Jews or anybody else for that matter?

Putin fu*#!d up anybody that defied him. Look what happened to Khodorkovsky. All the money in Russia couldnt help him. Jailed and stripped of ALL possesion. And he is not the only oligarch met by Putins fist, Berezovsky is another butthurt Jew hiding from the Tszar in London chuckle
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I find your belief that Putin controls his financial backers extremely naive to say the least. Yes he may have destroyed a couple as a publicity stunt but his close dual citizen allies show a different story that undermines the Putinistas belief that he is some sort of saviour.
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Fair enough from that perspective. What is the difference maker in your mind relative to Ukraine? Are Putin's Jewish backers worse than their brothers in the West? Ukraine has its own oligarchs from the same tribe. What is it that changed your mind and makes you take the other side so vehemently in Ukraine?

It seems like the tribe would be out of it in your analysis since the tribe will be in charge no matter who wins. This is not new news either. Why did you change from liking Putin to believing he must be stopped at all costs. He has at least taken some of them on. Who in the West has done that and survived politically? I assume he is no hero too. That is for people who spend their time reading comic books and thinking they are reading the classics. Simple minded folk.
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Honestly if I had no connection to Ukraine via my family history or knowledge of the complexity of Ukraine/Russia history, I would have that same blanket Pro-Putin approach as most and I found the Crimea move jarring at first.

I was a little surprised to see just how many dual citizen oligarchs were close to Putin though (just like Ukraine gov) and I believe it is a question that should be answered by any serious Putin supporter.

If you think about the tribe's goals then you realise that Putin is necessary to bring about WW3. He also took the Ukraine bait, just like the rebels took the MH17 bait. The US and Russia both seem to be in a conjoined downward spiral. China seems to be chosen as the next Kingdom, but probably in subordination to Jerusalem. That is if all goes to plan.

I believe the correct path would have been for Putin to FULLY renounce Soviet History, openly document and point the finger at the tribe and their seats of power in London, NY and TelAviv. He could then have done the same to remove the tribe's power from Ukraine too. Granted that would have been an almost impossible task politically as the results would have been predictable and guaranteed (but only slightly worse that his current situation). If he had ignored the coup in Ukraine it would have lead to nothing anyway as Ukraine has no cash and would have been dependent on EU subsidies which would have been a trickle anyway.

The Bankrupt West needed the war and they will soon have it.

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What is that thing they are looking at in the house at 3:30?
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BM27 Uragan system, 9M27 rocket shot by Ukraine army

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bsflag

If true probably CoverOp for killed civilians by NazGuard/private gunmen during raids against "separatist sympathizers". Everyone knows after Banderistan savages took over Slavyansk/Kramatorsk civilians disappeared. Mass arrests, deportations happened...

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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What is that thing they are looking at in the house at 3:30?
 Quoting: libertine


BM27 Uragan system, 9M27 rocket shot by Ukraine army

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


Obviously against civilian areas...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Yeah
 Quoting: Unit 88


So there will be war between Novorossiya and Netherlands?

scratchingscratchingblink
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Probably heading out to secure and return the bodies
 Quoting: Unit 88


Rutten said something about someone going from Eindhoven to Ukraine, but I couldn't understand whom...only understand dutch partially. But that must be it what he meant
 Quoting: °Lucy°


It was not me, I am going to stay here in Eindhoven hf

But 'military' come to and go from the Eindhoven-airport many times.

If The Nederlands go into war with the Rebels then I go live in an other country ! Then I dont want to be Dutch any more.



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he had a good guardian angel
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My take or opinions on this Ukraine/Separatist crisis:

It's FUBAR.
I am a patriot for the constitution of the USA. I believe in the fight for freedom so long as the government or people that we are fighting for plan for a rule of law that enforces our inalienable rights given to us by our creator.

What is baffling me lately is our (USA) foreign policy.
We help our enemies by arming/aiding them to oust leaders in Egypt, Libya, and Syria all in the name of democracy.
The people rebelled, we helped. Why we helped is beyond me because these rebels are never going to support any type of constitution that resembles the constitution that we Americans hold so dear.

Now the Ukraine right sector has rebelled against their former president whom favored Russia over the EU. The people had the support of USA policy of course. Eastern Ukraine rebels against the new administration and wants their independence from the Ukraine. What do we(the USA) do? We support the current government instead of the rebellion.......Go figure.

I know all of this is about money and geo politics and the process in which the NWO achieves it's goals.
I think this MH17 situation is definitely a FF designed to make the Bear look like the untamed Grizzly. Exactly who is behind the FF is beyond me but I would guess it is the intelligence capitol letter gangs that are setting all of this up.
The question that baffles me the most is this:

Is the Russian government playing along with the PTB or are they the speed bump in the road slowing the process of the NWO?
I know the USA Government wants a new world order. President Bush Sr. made that clear in his 1990 State of The Union speech.



Any way....just speaking my mind....Rant over
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As I tried to explain with my other post > ROTHSCHILD is behind this, for many reason in present and roots in the past. [The Russians denied the Rothschilds something and they lateron made the Russians pay for that deny...

Putin has payed all the debts that Russia had to the Rothschilds, so now he can go the way HE wants to,
and that is showing now Russia and China and other countries [BRICS] are breaking loose from the Rothschild-controlled-world by re-introducing their own currencies.
This is driving the Rothschilds crazy and to anger.

THAT is why IN-THIS-CASE they [USA] dont back the "Rebels" which get support from Russia.

All the BRICS are opposing TPTB.



You can read more about Rothschild in my thread Thread: THE TRUTH ABOUT How 5 American companies CONTROL WHAT YOU THINK/BELIEVE REGARDING THE UKRAINE [and China - Russia]


xxxK
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The tribe are happy as long as we are killing everyone but them.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


you just proved your allegiance to nazis while totally ignoring the puppet-masters in Rome.

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why am I not surprised?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


OK so how do the Jesuits control Rothschilds?
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


this is only about 1/2 of the evidence presented in the op of this thread..sry for the wall of text

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The Rothschild dynasty

Thread: The Rothschild Dynasty is Jesuit - The Rothschilds are Jesuits
Guardians of the Vatican Treasury



The Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. 2, p. 497) admits that:

"It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure."

If this latter statement is true the Rothschilds control in addition to their own fortune the immense liquid resource of the Catholic Church, which is second only to the Rothschilds' in wealth and power.

The Two Babylons – Part VII
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Original source for „guardians of the papal treasure”:

Jewish Encyclopedia (published 1901 - 1906), p. 497
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[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

If you are not an American you will understand why your country is on its present course, as it too is controlled by the Jesuit General through his select Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, the Knights of Columbus, and the Illuminati’s Masonic, Cabalistic, Labor Zionist, Sabbatian Frankist (named after the Black Pope’s baptized Jacob Frank), Jewish House of Rothschild. For the Order controlled the infamous House of Rothschild since no later than the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars, after which Jesuit-led Crusade the Rothschild family was surnamed the “Guardians of the Vatican Treasury.”

Eric Jon Phelps, „Vatican Assassins”, 3rd Ed., p.90
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The real power structure

The Treaty of Paris of 1763 designated King George III „Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire.” And „according to the Encyclopedia Judaica [sic] the Rothschilds bear the title „Guardians of the Vatican Treasury.” The Vatican Treasury, of course, holds the imperial wealth of Rome. Imperial wealth grows in proportion to its victories in war -- as the Jesuit empowerment Regimini militantis ecclesiae implies, the Church-at-War is more necessary than the Church-at-Peace. According to H. Russell Robinson's illustrated Armour of Imperial Rome, Caesarean soldiers protect themselves in battle with shields painted red. Since the soldiery is the State's most valuable resource (the Council of Trent admitted this in preferring the Jesuits to all other religious orders), it is easy to understand why the red shield was identified with the very life of the Church. Hence, the appropriateness of the name Rothschild, German for „red shield.” The appointment of Rothschild gave the black papacy absolute financial privacy and secrecy. Who would ever search a family of orthodox Jews for the key to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church? I believe this appointment explains why the House of Rothschild is famous for helping nations go to war. It is fascinating that, as Meyer Rothschild's sons grew into the family business, the firm took on the title Meyer Amschel Rothschild und Sohne, which gives us the notariqon MARS. Isn't Mars the Roman God of War, whose heavenly manifestation is „the red planet”? There is powerful cabalah here, and there's hardly an acre of inhabitable earth that hasn't been affected by it in some way.

Tupper Saussy: „Rulers of Evil”, p. 160-161
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„International finance and banking are NOT primarily ‘Jewish’. Many of the most powerful banking interests in the world are run by ‘Gentiles’. One of the most powerful forces in international banking is the Knights of Malta, a Roman Catholic military order controlled by the Jesuit Superior General. Sadly, even a certain segment of the ‘alternative media’ helps to propagate the LIE that ‘the Jews’ run international banking. Interestingly, one of the titles of the Rothschild banking dynasty is ‘Guardians of the Vatican Treasury’. ‘The Jews’, as a people, have been used for centuries as a ‘scapegoat’ by these international banksters and their secret societies, such as the Jesuit-controlled Knights of Malta. To label ‘the Jews’ as running banking, Hollywood, etc, is to throw out the proverbial ‘red herring’ designed to throw us off the scent of the ‘real controllers’.”

Darryl Eberhart (Editor of „Tackling the Tough Topics”; January 28, 2006)
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„The Jesuit General has been the most powerful man in the world since Pius VII restored the Order or "Company" in 1814. Because of the Order's suppression by the Pope in 1773, the Jesuits began the Bavarian Illuminati with one of their soldiers, Adam Weishaupt. The Illuminati absorbed the Jewish House of Rothschild creating a colossus of wealth around the world, subject to the Jesuit General. With this financial arm in place the Jesuits then made war on the Vatican including the Pope, the Roman Catholic Monarchs of Europe and the Order of the Dominicans. This Inquisition and Crusade was called "the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars". For twenty-five years, the Jesuit General's Masonic agents, particularly in the person of Napoleon Bonaparte, conducted war. Bonaparte also punished the Knights of Malta, driving them from their island home to Russia.”

Eric Jon Phelps: „Vatican Assassins”, 2nd Ed., p. 582
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The Jesuits, now formally suppressed by the Pope, were allied with Frederick the Great of Prussia and Catherine II of Russia. The Jesuit General was in control of Scottish Rite Freemasonry and now sought an alliance with the Masonic Baron of the House of Rothschild. To accomplish this he chose a Jesuit who was a German Gentile (not a Jew) by race and a Freemason by association — Adam Weishaupt.

Eric Jon Phelps: „Vatican Assassins”, 3rd Ed., p. 401
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„The Rothschilds were Jesuits who used their Jewish background as a faûze to cover their sinister activities. The Jesuits, working through Rothschild and [financier Nicholas] Biddle, sought to gain control of the banking system of the United States.”

[...]

„The Jesuits used Biddle and Rothschild to gain the upper hand in American banking because they knew they could then control the people and effectively re-write the Constitution according to papal law. Jackson was trying to stop them. ”

[...]

„We have already seen that the Rothschilds were the banking agents for the papacy’s Church.”

[...]

„These three financial families, the Rothschilds, Morgans, and Rockefellers all do the bidding of the Jesuit Order because of Jesuit infiltration in their organizations. They do whatever is necessary to destroy constitutional liberty in America and to bring the pope to world domination. As we look back over the 20th century, we see how successful the Jesuits have been. They have continued to squander the wealth of America and continually attack its great constitution and civil liberties. Daily, the power of the pope in Vatican City increases. One day they will achieve total power again.”

Bill Hughes: „The Secret Terrorists”, p. 16+17
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Seldom is it mentioned: that the Rothschilds, along with other western bankers and industrialists, financed the rise of Hitler as a bulwark against the Soviets. The ultra-right wing falsely describes the Rothschilds as "Jewish bankers" when, in fact, the Rothschilds are interwoven with the Catholic Church, and, jointly with the traditional mafia and the American CIA, interlocked with the Vatican Bank, which was pro-Nazi.

Sherman H. Skolnick: „The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds” (article)
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„... the Jesuits were driven to co-operate with the other two international brotherhoods, the Freemasons and the Jews [Rothschild’s Illuminati], in the destruction of the Spanish Empire.”

Salvador de Madariaga, Spanish Statesman: „The Jesuits”, 1820
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During the Order’s Suppression from 1773 to 1814 by Pope Clement XIV, General Ricci [Eighteenth Superior General of the Society of Jesus, 1758 - 1775] created the Order of the Illuminati with his soldier, Adam Weishaupt, uniting the House of Rothschild with the Society of Jesus.

G. B. Nicolini: „History of the Jesuits: Their Origin, Progress, Doctrines, and Designs”, (London: Henry G. Bohn, 1889) pp. 356, 357.
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Jesuit Adam Weishaupt, 1748 – 1811
Founder of the Illuminati, 1776

Born at Ingolstadt, Germany, in the heart of Roman Catholic Bavaria from which originated the Order’s Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648), Adam Weishaupt, a White German Gentile, was educated by the Jesuits; in 1775 he became a notorious professor of the Vatican’s murderous Canon Law, including the evil, Counter-Reformation Council of Trent. Since Pope Clement XIV’s Bull of Extinction was not enforced in Lutheran Germany, the Order flourished at its University of Ingolstadt, out of which Weishaupt established the Illuminati in 1776 and joined the Grand Orient Masonic Lodge in 1777. He united the magnificent financial empire of the Cabalistic, Masonic, Jewish House of Rothschild, the „Guardians of the Vatican’s Treasury,” with the opulence of the international and secret, anti-Jewish Race, primarily White Gentile Society of Jesus.



the Rothschilds are simply Court Jews for the Papacy and always will be unless they play up, then the Papacy will simply annilate them by any means necessary. If you look at whats going on in this world properly you can see the Roman Catholic control quite clearly. The Rothschilds have been under the Black Pope's thumb since the 18th Century. Be careful of the many diversionists out there playing with your mind. The Jesuit ALWAYS control both sides.


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What is that thing they are looking at in the house at 3:30?
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BM27 Uragan system, 9M27 rocket shot by Ukraine army

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thank you
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Australian PM: "We have to punish the guilty, military aircraft on standby"

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So they are threatening to attack Obama?
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Do you seriously think that Zionist Talmudic dual Israeli citizens in Russia have different goals to those in DC? Their joint goal is to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem after they demolish the Dome of the Rock. Now you both seem to be almost defending the Russian Talmudic Jews. That appears to be a difficult position to support historically, factually and logically. The crimes committed in Russia and Ukraine by western funded jews in the 20th Century were so horiffic it boggles the mind. What is Putin doing with these devil worshippers so close to him? They (as leaders of the revolution and the NKVD) shot the last czar, murdered millions of middle class Russians and Ukrainians and starved millions of poorer Ukrainians and also Russians.


This is history that I agree with, but how can you prove Putin is controlled by Jews or anybody else for that matter?

Putin fu*#!d up anybody that defied him. Look what happened to Khodorkovsky. All the money in Russia couldnt help him. Jailed and stripped of ALL possesion. And he is not the only oligarch met by Putins fist, Berezovsky is another butthurt Jew hiding from the Tszar in London chuckle
 Quoting: Matjaz


I find your belief that Putin controls his financial backers extremely naive to say the least. Yes he may have destroyed a couple as a publicity stunt but his close dual citizen allies show a different story that undermines the Putinistas belief that he is some sort of saviour.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Fair enough from that perspective. What is the difference maker in your mind relative to Ukraine? Are Putin's Jewish backers worse than their brothers in the West? Ukraine has its own oligarchs from the same tribe. What is it that changed your mind and makes you take the other side so vehemently in Ukraine?

It seems like the tribe would be out of it in your analysis since the tribe will be in charge no matter who wins. This is not new news either. Why did you change from liking Putin to believing he must be stopped at all costs. He has at least taken some of them on. Who in the West has done that and survived politically? I assume he is no hero too. That is for people who spend their time reading comic books and thinking they are reading the classics. Simple minded folk.
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Honestly if I had no connection to Ukraine via my family history or knowledge of the complexity of Ukraine/Russia history, I would have that same blanket Pro-Putin approach as most and I found the Crimea move jarring at first.

I was a little surprised to see just how many dual citizen oligarchs were close to Putin though (just like Ukraine gov) and I believe it is a question that should be answered by any serious Putin supporter.

If you think about the tribe's goals then you realise that Putin is necessary to bring about WW3. He also took the Ukraine bait, just like the rebels took the MH17 bait. The US and Russia both seem to be in a conjoined downward spiral. China seems to be chosen as the next Kingdom, but probably in subordination to Jerusalem. That is if all goes to plan.

I believe the correct path would have been for Putin to FULLY renounce Soviet History, openly document and point the finger at the tribe and their seats of power in London, NY and TelAviv. He could then have done the same to remove the tribe's power from Ukraine too. Granted that would have been an almost impossible task politically as the results would have been predictable and guaranteed. If he had ignored the coup in Ukraine it would have lead to nothing anyway as Ukraine has no cash and would have been dependent on EU subsidies which would have been a trickle anyway.

The Bankrupt West needed the war and they will soon have it.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Thanks for the response. As you see my AC number keeps changing automatically every so often. The correct path as you say would have meant Putin would have no relationships with the west to sanction IMO. They went nuts over any push back to those oligarchs. Unfortunately all we can do is watch.
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Guess you forgot what happened last time around.
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But I remember. Bandersitan forces abused ceasefire for regruping their gunmen, tried to approach milita position or behind their lines and they were bringing supplies. Yes, it can't work. When ceasefire so all millitary operations must be stopped immediately. Full stop.
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Can you, for 1 minute, stop the shilling? Both sides were shooting during the "ceasefire".
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


O.k., this is fair statement. But fact is that Kiev forces are on attacking side so there is high probability of that milita fire was reaction on Kiev forces movement. But as I sadi first, statemen "both sides were shooting" is fair.
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I remember what happened, but the eyes of the world are going to be on Ukraine even more once an international team or for that matter, any team from an involved country goes in. High level people with some stones need to get there fast and bring media and do what needs to be done to get those bodies out of there.

I am not so concerned about bodies myself, weird I am I guess, but this needs to be resolved for those that care about those things.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to lugansk-online.info]

20/07/14

What is that thing they are looking at in the house at 3:30?
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That looks just like a big version of the old WWII bombs which keep turning up
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Momentum built on Sunday for the European assets of prominent Russian businessmen and companies to be frozen as early as Tuesday, when EU foreign ministers meet in Brussels.
[link to online.wsj.com]
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damn. China's gonna have to pump another 50 billion into Putin's war chest.
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Why would they do that?
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Momentum built on Sunday for the European assets of prominent Russian businessmen and companies to be frozen as early as Tuesday, when EU foreign ministers meet in Brussels.
[link to online.wsj.com]
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damn. China's gonna have to pump another 50 billion into Putin's war chest.
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Why would they do that?
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to counter the effects of the NWO sanctions.

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Dutch Journalist placed some new photo's of the crash site on Flickr about 30 minutes ago.

[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]
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i forget to mention, keep an eye on the last few photos of the first page...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60327491



BOMB !!!!!
[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

... and 4 roth-schields ... [kaart 'ruiten 4' - card diamonds 4]

...JOKER with xx ...


xxxK


edit-add:

Meaning Diamonds 4:
—Breach of confidence. Troubles caused by inconstant friends, vexations and disagreeables.

-A predominance of Diamonds in a spread highlights money and communications.

-Four of Diamonds: Decisions will have something to do with home and family life and expenses related to this. There may be an improvement in money coming into the home. Someone might receive an inheritance.

-wanting to possess - maintaining control - blocking change/obstructing new developments



And the JOKER-card which stands for the FOOL in Tarot :
The Fool is titled Le Mat in the Tarot of Marseilles, and Il Matto in most Italian language tarot decks. These archaic words mean "the madman" or "the beggar", and may be related to the word for 'checkmate' in relation to the original use of tarot cards for gaming purposes.

Ukraine [+ EU/USA] thought they had Russia [+ UKr Rebels] checkmate with this event !

In the various tarot card games such as French Tarot, Tarocchini and Tarock, the Fool has a unique role. In these games, the Fool is sometimes called "the Excuse". The tarot games are typically trick taking games; playing the Fool card excuses the player from either following suit or playing a trump card on that trick. Winning a trick containing the Fool card often yields a scoring bonus.


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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 7 min.
The gist of #Putin's 0140 am press release: Humanitarian corridors necessary to #MH17 site,and security required.. troops? #Ukraine #cdnpoli
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agreed UN with Russian presence with Western forces or a Pristina 99 with a spin
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REPORTS #NAF HQ states no strategic ground was lost today to the #Ukraine army, despite claims to the contrary. #cdnpoli #Luhansk #Donetsk
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Australian PM: "We have to punish the guilty, military aircraft on standby"

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 Quoting: NEWSMAN


damn. we haven't heard from them in a long time.

how'ya do'in there old boys!


chorus
 Quoting: Cats88


old boys ???? more like jailed nancy boys - lol


5a5a5a
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chuckle
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Dutch Journalist placed some new photo's of the crash site on Flickr about 30 minutes ago.

[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60327491


i forget to mention, keep an eye on the last few photos of the first page...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60327491



BOMB !!!!!
[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

... and 4 roth-schields ... [kaart 'ruiten 4' - card diamonds 4]


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


Shit!!!
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Ukrainian Police Discover Mass Grave in Slavyansk
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 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


bsflag

If true probably CoverOp for killed civilians by NazGuard/private gunmen during raids against "separatist sympathizers". Everyone knows after Banderistan savages took over Slavyansk/Kramatorsk civilians disappeared. Mass arrests, deportations happened...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


antibs
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My take or opinions on this Ukraine/Separatist crisis:

It's FUBAR.
I am a patriot for the constitution of the USA. I believe in the fight for freedom so long as the government or people that we are fighting for plan for a rule of law that enforces our inalienable rights given to us by our creator.

What is baffling me lately is our (USA) foreign policy.
We help our enemies by arming/aiding them to oust leaders in Egypt, Libya, and Syria all in the name of democracy.
The people rebelled, we helped. Why we helped is beyond me because these rebels are never going to support any type of constitution that resembles the constitution that we Americans hold so dear.

Now the Ukraine right sector has rebelled against their former president whom favored Russia over the EU. The people had the support of USA policy of course. Eastern Ukraine rebels against the new administration and wants their independence from the Ukraine. What do we(the USA) do? We support the current government instead of the rebellion.......Go figure.

I know all of this is about money and geo politics and the process in which the NWO achieves it's goals.
I think this MH17 situation is definitely a FF designed to make the Bear look like the untamed Grizzly. Exactly who is behind the FF is beyond me but I would guess it is the intelligence capitol letter gangs that are setting all of this up.
The question that baffles me the most is this:

Is the Russian government playing along with the PTB or are they the speed bump in the road slowing the process of the NWO?
I know the USA Government wants a new world order. President Bush Sr. made that clear in his 1990 State of The Union speech.



Any way....just speaking my mind....Rant over
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As I tried to explain with my other post > ROTHSCHILD is behind this, for many reason in present and roots in the past. [The Russians denied the Rothschilds something and they lateron made the Russians pay for that deny...

Putin has payed all the debts that Russia had to the Rothschilds, so now he can go the way HE wants to,
and that is showing now Russia and China and other countries [BRICS] are breaking loose from the Rothschild-controlled-world by re-introducing their own currencies.
This is driving the Rothschilds crazy and to anger.

THAT is why IN-THIS-CASE they [USA] dont back the "Rebels" which get support from Russia.

All the BRICS are opposing TPTB.



You can read more about Rothschild in my thread Thread: THE TRUTH ABOUT How 5 American companies CONTROL WHAT YOU THINK/BELIEVE REGARDING THE UKRAINE [and China - Russia]


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


no wonder pisrael is busy cleaning its backyard jus in case iran jumps in and they dont want any surprises from the border

its all going according to planned WW3 and the shit has already hit the fan now u have to smell it and live with it for years to come.

hidinghidinghidinghiding
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 22 min.
REPORTS #NAF HQ states no strategic ground was lost today to the #Ukraine army, despite claims to the contrary. #cdnpoli #Luhansk #Donetsk
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Another tactical retreat?

cruise
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Russian President Putin issues new statement on downing of flight #MH17 on Kremlin website (Russian): [link to kremlin.ru]


[link to kremlin.ru]
 Quoting: Ontheverge


Dear Vlad, can we get that in English, please.
This translating is like work! And sometimes I suspect google translate is waaaayyyy off base.

:signlang:
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Ukrainian Police Discover Mass Grave in Slavyansk
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bsflag

If true probably CoverOp for killed civilians by NazGuard/private gunmen during raids against "separatist sympathizers". Everyone knows after Banderistan savages took over Slavyansk/Kramatorsk civilians disappeared. Mass arrests, deportations happened...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


antibs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


tardbaby
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

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GLP