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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58202147 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I will make it simple: Do you believe in: ghosts Question 2: What do they do? 1: I don't deny possibility of their existance. 2: Complain mostly. If ghost haunting was a factor that defined quality of life and longevity of people, there would be a whole lot less wars and crimes in the world. And I'm replying mostly because I want to understand in what way it's connected to current situation in Ukraine - or even Holodomor... Frikking duh, my friend. Because ghost were created in Holodomor and 20th Century Holocaust Sacrifice of WW1 and WW2 = 1 Billion people. So, 1 billion ghosts. Are you with me so far? Okay so, you say ghosts are harmless? No. They affect the living. Well, unless they do not exist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58097245 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 1 min Kiev army shells #Kramatorsk, city ‘left without water’ – self-defense coordinator [link to on.rt.com] UN got to act on this seeing as in Syria the est was pushing for Aid to get through I think Original Mind <<< If I got his name right >>> prediction is showing true here |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58212379 United States 05/18/2014 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 USSR was not legal descendant of Russian Empire. Quoting: Tamonten Russian Federation is a legal descendant of USSR. That's the difference. For example, Baltic States, Finland and part of Poland were parts of Russian Empire. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] - there's a full royal title of last Russian Emperor. Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia. During revolution Baltic States secceeded from Empire. During pre-WW2 events they were annexed by USSR. USSR in it's final years denounced annexation of Baltic States. Russia as descendant of USSR considers this proclamation as official document. If Russia considered itself a descendant of Russian Empire it would denounce seccession during revolution and declare all the treaties signed by their governments invalid. But Russia is using basics of political theory as an arguement. "Social contract" is the basic idea that government is chosen by people. And Russia "annexed" Crimea because it's citizens declared trust to Russian government. On the other side most of Ukrainian population has never declared current "autorities" in Kiev it's government. And according to same basic theory DPR and LPR are reality. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What does it mean for Russia to be legal descendant of USSR? It can claim it's role in defeating the Nazis and can also claim that it had nothing to do with holodomor in Ukraine (and lot of other rather nasty things) since that was Zionist and communist USSR doings? Holodomor again? Ok, I'll clarify something. There was no Holodomor - as it is percieved through anti-Russian propaganda in West and Ukraine. There was not any governmental campaign to genocide Ukrainians. There was rather sick Collectivization policy of SU government (not unique to Ukraine) that was directed mainly to abolish private property - including right of property for land. One of the main instruments of Collectivization was Great Terror - direct exterminating of those who had that property. It leaded to major decline of production from farms - and to famine as a result. Collectivization was declared wrong policy a number of times by Russian government - and several times even before. But talking about so-called Holodomor as if it was separate case and some ploy to kill Ukrainians is stupid. Let's say some building caught a fire because of unprofessional actions of electrician. Accusing him of intentionally causing property damage in one single appartment in that building would be as stupid as this. Because he was already punished for his negligence - and because he also had an appartment there. A famous lawyer and financier, named Peter Beter claimed in his radio show and newletter (circa 1970's) that a secret sect of hard as nails Russian Orthodox Christians finally kicked out the last Bolshevik around 1978 and began to re-establish Russia as an Orthodox Christian nation, while the Bolsheviks moved to the US and Israel to set up shop and plotted revenge against the Russians. At first Beter's claim sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but over the years it looks as though he was correct. Putin seeks spiritual counsel from Orthodox Russian monks, re-establishes Russian Orthodoxy as the Russian state religion all the while the US is presently indistinguishable from Communist/Bolshevik Russia. US neo cons are the grandchildren of men who followed Trotsky --and clearly they have a vendetta against Russia. I'm wondering if you ever came across or are you familiar with Beter's theory. |
Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 05/18/2014 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to twitter.com (secure)] According to Strelkov's data, junta had about 100 losses (killed and injured together) today. 3 APCs and 2 army trucks were destroyed. Last Edited by Tamonten on 05/18/2014 05:08 PM "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58198990 Croatia 05/18/2014 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 resistance ‏@arabresistance 1m Quoting: Anti-Banderist #Kiev forces are shelling #Kramatorsk city. Many buildings have been hit and some are on fire. Reports of APCs entering city. #Ukraine #Kyiv I wonder what happens when both cities fell. I dont think seperatists Will be able to hold much longer. Its a siege and civilians are probablly fed up by now. Resources are low and there is whole army division around Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Both cities are 10km apart. Why would the cities fall? The people have no choice but to fight. If they surrender they will be murdered by the Kiev junta fascists. The army surrounding these cities is slowly being wiped out. Do you remember Stalingrad? The unlawful enemy combatants following the orders of unelected "people" in Kiev are not very skilled soldiers. The freedom fighters in Slavyansk are a superior military force in terms of the quality of the soldiers. Ze Germans are at it again? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58202147 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Blatant shill Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58194591 Dont you dare to insult the honorable Waffen SS Shameless whore Haha, LOL. I see you are sarcastic. Wat does Waffen SS mean? Who empower such a group? Did Lucky Luciano act on orders of Pius 12 when he hung Il Duce upside down and had him stoned? Do the Mob run the heroin trade? If not, then why all the secrecy about Afghanistan? Where does the lies begin? I think 100 years ago is not enough to say the lies began here. |
Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 05/18/2014 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A famous lawyer and financier, named Peter Beter claimed in his radio show and newletter (circa 1970's) that a secret sect of hard as nails Russian Orthodox Christians finally kicked out the last Bolshevik around 1978 and began to re-establish Russia as an Orthodox Christian nation, while the Bolsheviks moved to the US and Israel to set up shop and plotted revenge against the Russians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58212379 At first Beter's claim sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but over the years it looks as though he was correct. Putin seeks spiritual counsel from Orthodox Russian monks, re-establishes Russian Orthodoxy as the Russian state religion all the while the US is presently indistinguishable from Communist/Bolshevik Russia. US neo cons are the grandchildren of men who followed Trotsky --and clearly they have a vendetta against Russia. I'm wondering if you ever came across or are you familiar with Beter's theory. Well, I'd say it's not really believable. Too difficult to be true. While idea of World Revolution that Trotsky actively supported is certanly very close to current ideology of World Democratisation that was proclaimed by DoS. And no, I've never heard it before. Last Edited by Tamonten on 05/18/2014 05:17 PM "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51724363 Germany 05/18/2014 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Minute of propaganda: Quoting: Tamonten [link to www.dropbox.com (secure)] "Flag of Ukraine - is the great prophecy by artist Vereshchagin 'The Apotheosis of War'" [link to en.wikipedia.org] The Wikipedia article gives a deep insight, here's a short quote from it: "... His picture Suppression of the Indian Revolt by the English depicted executions carried out by tying victims to the barrels of guns. Vereshchagin's detractors argued that such executions had only occurred in the Indian Rebellion of 1857, but the painting depicted modern soldiers of the 1880s, implying that the practice was normal. Because of its photographic style, the painting appeared to present itself as impartial record of a real event. In the Magazine of Art in December 1887, Vereshchagin defended himself, rather evasively, by saying that that if there were another rebellion then the British would use it again. ..." Since I know some people from Bangladesh, this knowledge helps me to better understand some things they talk about. Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27408852 Egypt 05/18/2014 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 USSR was not legal descendant of Russian Empire. Quoting: Tamonten Russian Federation is a legal descendant of USSR. That's the difference. For example, Baltic States, Finland and part of Poland were parts of Russian Empire. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] - there's a full royal title of last Russian Emperor. Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia. During revolution Baltic States secceeded from Empire. During pre-WW2 events they were annexed by USSR. USSR in it's final years denounced annexation of Baltic States. Russia as descendant of USSR considers this proclamation as official document. If Russia considered itself a descendant of Russian Empire it would denounce seccession during revolution and declare all the treaties signed by their governments invalid. But Russia is using basics of political theory as an arguement. "Social contract" is the basic idea that government is chosen by people. And Russia "annexed" Crimea because it's citizens declared trust to Russian government. On the other side most of Ukrainian population has never declared current "autorities" in Kiev it's government. And according to same basic theory DPR and LPR are reality. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What does it mean for Russia to be legal descendant of USSR? It can claim it's role in defeating the Nazis and can also claim that it had nothing to do with holodomor in Ukraine (and lot of other rather nasty things) since that was Zionist and communist USSR doings? Holodomor again? Ok, I'll clarify something. There was no Holodomor - as it is percieved through anti-Russian propaganda in West and Ukraine. There was not any governmental campaign to genocide Ukrainians. There was rather sick Collectivization policy of SU government (not unique to Ukraine) that was directed mainly to abolish private property - including right of property for land. One of the main instruments of Collectivization was Great Terror - direct exterminating of those who had that property. It leaded to major decline of production from farms - and to famine as a result. Collectivization was declared wrong policy a number of times by Russian government - and several times even before. But talking about so-called Holodomor as if it was separate case and some ploy to kill Ukrainians is stupid. Let's say some building caught a fire because of unprofessional actions of electrician. Accusing him of intentionally causing property damage in one single appartment in that building would be as stupid as this. Because he was already punished for his negligence - and because he also had an appartment there. You are the biggest liar on this thread. He's not lying, he is stating historical facts, which you would know if you had studied the history properly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27408852 Egypt 05/18/2014 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A famous lawyer and financier, named Peter Beter claimed in his radio show and newletter (circa 1970's) that a secret sect of hard as nails Russian Orthodox Christians finally kicked out the last Bolshevik around 1978 and began to re-establish Russia as an Orthodox Christian nation, while the Bolsheviks moved to the US and Israel to set up shop and plotted revenge against the Russians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58212379 At first Beter's claim sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but over the years it looks as though he was correct. Putin seeks spiritual counsel from Orthodox Russian monks, re-establishes Russian Orthodoxy as the Russian state religion all the while the US is presently indistinguishable from Communist/Bolshevik Russia. US neo cons are the grandchildren of men who followed Trotsky --and clearly they have a vendetta against Russia. I'm wondering if you ever came across or are you familiar with Beter's theory. Well, I'd say it's not really believable. Too difficult to be true. While idea of World Revolution that Trotsky actively supported is certanly very close to current ideology of World Democratisation that was proclaimed by DoS. And no, I've never heard it before. Sounds believable - study a bit and look at what's been happening since |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57994567 Croatia 05/18/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Between 1921-1933, up to 1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies. Then 1944's deportation followed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6549119 Crimean Tatars and Chechens were both forced to leave their homelands down to the last person to far away lands at the hands of Russians. Crimean Tatars weren't permitted to return to Crimea, mainly from foreign Uzbekistan, until late 1980s - and never received help returning. After deporting the Crimean Tatars en masse, Stalin resettled Crimea with mostly ethnic Russians. Crimean Tatars are sadly again facing intimidation in their homeland at the hands of Russians. Russia speaks of fascists in Kyiv, yet refuses to let Crimean Tatars commemorate a day of national trauma, a genocide. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I'd just add, that actions that were planned are were most likely planned as a provocation. Also "1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies" is untrue. Here's a graph of Crimean population. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Green is Crimean Tatars. Both major declines are after wars - in 18th and 19th centuries. Their population was stable during 20th century. Everything that Russians dont agree with is a 'provocation.' The real provocation there is what your fellow Russian terrorists are doing to them! Stalin's great purge on the Tatars 1917-1944: [link to en.wikipedia.org] complete deportation in 1944: [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is one thing I want to know: why do you mix the past and the present time here. Again and again as an accusation against Putin, what Stalin did 70 years ago. One could accuse the Italian politicians, too, that Christians were fed to the lions in the Roman Empire. Anyway, you can not achieve a meaningful solution to the current problems in this way. Bandera, Nazis, fascist..that is relevant shit, not what happened 70 years ago. |
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User ID: 57594343 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And in other News Quoting: djdandew1 @CustosDivini 7m Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for #China-#Vietnam border I keep saying Europe will go bang then Asia but what if its the other way round Toying with US commitments Heard a few rumors Syria is about to heat up too before June 3rd, all i will say is keep an eye on Israel and Saudi “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58097245 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 exciting as it may seem buddy it really isn't for those on the ground you kind of get a different perspective when little kids are screaming in terror and pain or the high screech of a mother who has lost her husband and sons... Sorry to be morbid but this doom needs to die no disrespect to Luis thread its brilliant and takes a lot of work but I think he would agree with me on this one when I say Europe doesn't want another war |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37847058 United States 05/18/2014 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And in other News Quoting: djdandew1 @CustosDivini 7m Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for #China-#Vietnam border I keep saying Europe will go bang then Asia but what if its the other way round Toying with US commitments Heard a few rumors Syria is about to heat up too before June 3rd, all i will say is keep an eye on Israel and Saudi Why June 3rd can I ask? Uncle intel? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58212379 United States 05/18/2014 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A famous lawyer and financier, named Peter Beter claimed in his radio show and newletter (circa 1970's) that a secret sect of hard as nails Russian Orthodox Christians finally kicked out the last Bolshevik around 1978 and began to re-establish Russia as an Orthodox Christian nation, while the Bolsheviks moved to the US and Israel to set up shop and plotted revenge against the Russians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58212379 At first Beter's claim sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but over the years it looks as though he was correct. Putin seeks spiritual counsel from Orthodox Russian monks, re-establishes Russian Orthodoxy as the Russian state religion all the while the US is presently indistinguishable from Communist/Bolshevik Russia. US neo cons are the grandchildren of men who followed Trotsky --and clearly they have a vendetta against Russia. I'm wondering if you ever came across or are you familiar with Beter's theory. Well, I'd say it's not really believable. Too difficult to be true. Why? Do you think 1000 years of Russian Christian orthodoxy was wiped out by a sneak attack by Bolsheviks? Personally, I think the Christians regained control of Russia and personally believe, God is on the side of Russia and Putin and against the increasingly demonic West/Zionists. Further, I suspect many people around here believe something similar. While idea of World Revolution that Trotsky actively supported is certanly very close to current ideology of World Democratisation that was proclaimed by DoS. And no, I've never heard it before. |
Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 05/18/2014 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Holodomor again? Ok, I'll clarify something. Quoting: Tamonten There was no Holodomor - as it is percieved through anti-Russian propaganda in West and Ukraine. There was not any governmental campaign to genocide Ukrainians. There was rather sick Collectivization policy of SU government (not unique to Ukraine) that was directed mainly to abolish private property - including right of property for land. One of the main instruments of Collectivization was Great Terror - direct exterminating of those who had that property. It leaded to major decline of production from farms - and to famine as a result. Collectivization was declared wrong policy a number of times by Russian government - and several times even before. But talking about so-called Holodomor as if it was separate case and some ploy to kill Ukrainians is stupid. Let's say some building caught a fire because of unprofessional actions of electrician. Accusing him of intentionally causing property damage in one single appartment in that building would be as stupid as this. Because he was already punished for his negligence - and because he also had an appartment there. You are the biggest liar on this thread. He's not lying, he is stating historical facts, which you would know if you had studied the history properly. Don't blame him (her?). If that person is really from Ukraine (which is likely judging by reaction) and recieved education in last 20 or so years through Soros's books it's quite possible that he (i'll stick to this for now) studied it quite well. Too well actually. I'd recommend to read wikipedia - but information there could be confusing as both sides had their hands there. "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58209245 Ukraine 05/18/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 USSR was not legal descendant of Russian Empire. Quoting: Tamonten Russian Federation is a legal descendant of USSR. That's the difference. For example, Baltic States, Finland and part of Poland were parts of Russian Empire. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] - there's a full royal title of last Russian Emperor. Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia. During revolution Baltic States secceeded from Empire. During pre-WW2 events they were annexed by USSR. USSR in it's final years denounced annexation of Baltic States. Russia as descendant of USSR considers this proclamation as official document. If Russia considered itself a descendant of Russian Empire it would denounce seccession during revolution and declare all the treaties signed by their governments invalid. But Russia is using basics of political theory as an arguement. "Social contract" is the basic idea that government is chosen by people. And Russia "annexed" Crimea because it's citizens declared trust to Russian government. On the other side most of Ukrainian population has never declared current "autorities" in Kiev it's government. And according to same basic theory DPR and LPR are reality. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What does it mean for Russia to be legal descendant of USSR? It can claim it's role in defeating the Nazis and can also claim that it had nothing to do with holodomor in Ukraine (and lot of other rather nasty things) since that was Zionist and communist USSR doings? Holodomor again? Ok, I'll clarify something. There was no Holodomor - as it is percieved through anti-Russian propaganda in West and Ukraine. There was not any governmental campaign to genocide Ukrainians. There was rather sick Collectivization policy of SU government (not unique to Ukraine) that was directed mainly to abolish private property - including right of property for land. One of the main instruments of Collectivization was Great Terror - direct exterminating of those who had that property. It leaded to major decline of production from farms - and to famine as a result. Collectivization was declared wrong policy a number of times by Russian government - and several times even before. But talking about so-called Holodomor as if it was separate case and some ploy to kill Ukrainians is stupid. Let's say some building caught a fire because of unprofessional actions of electrician. Accusing him of intentionally causing property damage in one single appartment in that building would be as stupid as this. Because he was already punished for his negligence - and because he also had an appartment there. Russian bullshit ! People who survived Holodomor witness how it was: Kremlin was taking all grain crops (it was needed for export) and put retreat-blocking detachments in order not to allow people to leave their areas. On 17th Congress of CPSU Voroshilov acknowledged that they had consciously decided to create a famine because the country needed grains, but victimes were only between non-labor and kulak elements which were exterminated like a class. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37847058 United States 05/18/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 exciting as it may seem buddy it really isn't for those on the ground you kind of get a different perspective when little kids are screaming in terror and pain or the high screech of a mother who has lost her husband and sons... Sorry to be morbid but this doom needs to die no disrespect to Luis thread its brilliant and takes a lot of work but I think he would agree with me on this one when I say Europe doesn't want another war You are quite right I apologize. I feel for the Ukranian people. Just having a bad day but it doesn't mean I should be a sarcastic asshole on here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58097245 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And in other News Quoting: djdandew1 @CustosDivini 7m Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for #China-#Vietnam border I keep saying Europe will go bang then Asia but what if its the other way round Toying with US commitments Heard a few rumors Syria is about to heat up too before June 3rd, all i will say is keep an eye on Israel and Saudi would tie in well with Iran meeting with Russia and china Syria & Ukraine are linked IMO to see how far Russia can can effectively utilised their forces |
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User ID: 34754802 Russia 05/18/2014 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A famous lawyer and financier, named Peter Beter claimed in his radio show and newletter (circa 1970's) that a secret sect of hard as nails Russian Orthodox Christians finally kicked out the last Bolshevik around 1978 and began to re-establish Russia as an Orthodox Christian nation, while the Bolsheviks moved to the US and Israel to set up shop and plotted revenge against the Russians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58212379 At first Beter's claim sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but over the years it looks as though he was correct. Putin seeks spiritual counsel from Orthodox Russian monks, re-establishes Russian Orthodoxy as the Russian state religion all the while the US is presently indistinguishable from Communist/Bolshevik Russia. US neo cons are the grandchildren of men who followed Trotsky --and clearly they have a vendetta against Russia. I'm wondering if you ever came across or are you familiar with Beter's theory. Well, I'd say it's not really believable. Too difficult to be true. Why? Do you think 1000 years of Russian Christian orthodoxy was wiped out by a sneak attack by Bolsheviks? Personally, I think the Christians regained control of Russia and personally believe, God is on the side of Russia and Putin and against the increasingly demonic West/Zionists. Further, I suspect many people around here believe something similar. While idea of World Revolution that Trotsky actively supported is certanly very close to current ideology of World Democratisation that was proclaimed by DoS. And no, I've never heard it before. I'll repeat - I'm not Christian. I believe that truth is on our side. You may call it God or some other names, but I'd agree with an idea. "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58097245 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 exciting as it may seem buddy it really isn't for those on the ground you kind of get a different perspective when little kids are screaming in terror and pain or the high screech of a mother who has lost her husband and sons... Sorry to be morbid but this doom needs to die no disrespect to Luis thread its brilliant and takes a lot of work but I think he would agree with me on this one when I say Europe doesn't want another war You are quite right I apologize. I feel for the Ukranian people. Just having a bad day but it doesn't mean I should be a sarcastic asshole on here. sorry about your bad day buddy try kicking back for a bit and watch this |