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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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PS: What I've been saying from the beginning by the way as an example - there's no invasion! I was right, til now!
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me too. and some hardy others

russian invasion imminent! watch out europe!!



crossing the english channel!!!


errr, no


idk, i think people sometimes get bogged down in detail and tweets etc. i just take a snapshot overview each day based on what we know about the various combatants and their track record, and actual basic facts
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I do indeed type info from MSM sources, because I work for the mainstream media and have access to military, politicians and other journalists, from which I get my sources. I make no secret of that. It's my job. Honestly, I am not a great believer in alternate news sources as they often tend to be either completely loopy (aliens from the planet Zog tell us to turn our hair blue to save the world) or with a very fixed agenda to push.

As for always right with predictions? I don't make many predictions unless asked and even then I point out that I have no crystal ball. The main thing I do is pass on stuff before it hits the MSM. I don't expect my word to be gospel or people to stop thinking through issues themselves. There are a lot of very good contributors here too!
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Talmudic Express?
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no, one of the major tv news channels. Definitely not Talmudic, as I am not a babylonian.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
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Ukraine was sold out .. , seems all planned this .
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Ukraine was sold out .. , seems all planned this .
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There was never ever any chance of a NATO intervention in Ukraine, Putin and everyone else knows that. Unless there is a direct attack on a NATO country we will only ever fight sanctions wars with Russia.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
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hf
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Ukraine was sold out .. , seems all planned this .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1563274


There was never ever any chance of a NATO intervention in Ukraine, Putin and everyone else knows that. Unless there is a direct attack on a NATO country we will only ever fight sanctions wars with Russia.
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I think Putin is starting to think he is Mr Almighty and he may make the mistake of attacking a NATO country because he may believe Russia can defeat NATO.
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Ukraine are accusing Russia of setting up separatist training camps in Crimea under special forces direction. They have issued a formal press statement to that effect
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Ukraine was sold out .. , seems all planned this .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1563274


There was never ever any chance of a NATO intervention in Ukraine, Putin and everyone else knows that. Unless there is a direct attack on a NATO country we will only ever fight sanctions wars with Russia.
 Quoting: Janey


I think Putin is starting to think he is Mr Almighty and he may make the mistake of attacking a NATO country because he may believe Russia can defeat NATO.
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I think that would only come to pass if the EU3 decide to put real sanctions in place, those are the 3 countries to watch as they are the most reluctant.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
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Happens in all ZOG countries, masses undel spell of mass media.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
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I'd say its you that's the dumbass. Yes NATO wont want to fight ww3 over a non-NATO country unlike Russia which is spoiling for war. Lets see Russia attack baltics,Poland etc then we will see the full strength of NATO and the limits of Russian "power". Keep dreaming.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Ukraine was sold out .. , seems all planned this .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1563274


There was never ever any chance of a NATO intervention in Ukraine, Putin and everyone else knows that. Unless there is a direct attack on a NATO country we will only ever fight sanctions wars with Russia.
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NOT in my name, please!
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
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I'd say its you that's the dumbass. Yes NATO wont want to fight ww3 over a non-NATO country unlike Russia which is spoiling for war. Lets see Russia attack baltics,Poland etc then we will see the full strength of NATO and the limits of Russian "power". Keep dreaming.
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in English please tounge

Why you are so angry? Who has ever said that Russia is going to attack any of these countries (again) after the USSR has vanished?!

dowager
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
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I'd say its you that's the dumbass. Yes NATO wont want to fight ww3 over a non-NATO country unlike Russia which is spoiling for war. Lets see Russia attack baltics,Poland etc then we will see the full strength of NATO and the limits of Russian "power". Keep dreaming.
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Beyond comprehension, up is down.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2687088


I'd say its you that's the dumbass. Yes NATO wont want to fight ww3 over a non-NATO country unlike Russia which is spoiling for war. Lets see Russia attack baltics,Poland etc then we will see the full strength of NATO and the limits of Russian "power". Keep dreaming.
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in English please tounge

Why you are so angry? Who has ever said that Russia is going to attack any of these countries (again) after the USSR has vanished?!

dowager
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not angry, just cannot believe the rubbish some people come out with. Remember the west is 20 years ahead of Russia in military terms. As for all you people who think your oppressed? Go live in Russia if life in the west is that bad.
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lets face it. The world is heading for China's model of internet censorship!
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not angry, just cannot believe the rubbish some people come out with. Remember the west is 20 years ahead of Russia in military terms. As for all you people who think your oppressed? Go live in Russia if life in the west is that bad.
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You are so clueless, bless your heart.
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lets face it. The world is heading for China's model of internet censorship!
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Translation: The world is tired of NSA spying through websites and is taking action to create their own internets free from NSA and CIA control and backdoors.

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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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> :)
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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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*cof* Russian Control *cof*

A bunch of protester wouldn't be able to accomplish that alone...

There is obviously support from outside aka Russian support. Who denies that has to be stupid.
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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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Only 80%?

Still not as high as Putin's approval rating...but getting close.

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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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*cof* Russian Control *cof*

A bunch of protester wouldn't be able to accomplish that alone...

There is obviously support from outside aka Russian support. Who denies that has to be stupid.
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hesright
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ESTIMATES THAT OVER 80% OF SOUTHEAST UKRAINE NOW IN SEPARATIST CONTROL
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*cof* Russian Control *cof*

A bunch of protester wouldn't be able to accomplish that alone...

There is obviously support from outside aka Russian support. Who denies that has to be stupid.
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Russian just copying US/West on what they did in Kiev but with winning plan. so Russian's win again vs US
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Lithuania too called for conscription if it gets real in Ukraine.

The only ones who actually called a draft is Poland... for training.
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Good point if it's true!

Link please, about POLAND!

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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


The Russian "peace keeping" forces will enter eastern Ukraine on May 9. Meanwhile Kiev is preparing for martial law and curfew.
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the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


The Russian "peace keeping" forces will enter eastern Ukraine on May 9. Meanwhile Kiev is preparing for martial law and curfew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34914049


And then chaos will begin in Kiev and the process will repeat with a full takeover of Kiev in mid to late June.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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Finally the bright minded US intelligence agents and generals figured out exactly the same all people with half a brain have been saying here for weeks now:

It's game over in Ukraine. West is done! Cooked. Putin won.

So after Iran program and Syria, it's now Putin 3 West 0.

What surprises me is that there's still some morans who think NATO has any sort of chance against him in a global conflict.

God dam dumbasses who can't see what's in front of their eyes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2687088


I'd say its you that's the dumbass. Yes NATO wont want to fight ww3 over a non-NATO country unlike Russia which is spoiling for war. Lets see Russia attack baltics,Poland etc then we will see the full strength of NATO and the limits of Russian "power". Keep dreaming.
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in English please tounge

Why you are so angry? Who has ever said that Russia is going to attack any of these countries (again) after the USSR has vanished?!

dowager
 Quoting: user 57568296

not angry, just cannot believe the rubbish some people come out with. Remember the west is 20 years ahead of Russia in military terms. As for all you people who think your oppressed? Go live in Russia if life in the west is that bad.
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Yes, and what kind of expert are you to conduct such analysis ?

Recent facts:
- Recently Donald Cook was moved to the Black Sea. Apparently US Navy is running cruises now, since it only stayed there for a week.

- "Computer problems" seem to be happening all over the Western world. Do you think any of the tech they use is safe ?

Then I'll leave you with a few quotes, so that you may understand the difference between both sides:

“All warfare is based on deception.”

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

“Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”

“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

Sun Tzu
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
the latest I have:-

Western military intelligence believes that within a week the entire SE Ukraine will have fallen to the Pro-Russian separatists and that the whole area is already a lost cause.

They will then have their referendums, ask to join Russia and in come the Russians. If Kiev makes any effort in the interim to take on the separatists, in come the Russians to protect the separatists and their referendum.

The general feeling beyond bravado and rhetoric is that the Kiev govt could do absolutely zero to stop either scenario. They could not even take back a few buildings, so against the might of the Russian army, the chances are nil.

It is still believed that Spetsnaz are doing the heavy lifting, taking key buildings, handing over to the separatists, before moving on to the next target.

The Kiev government recognise this and are changing their mindset to the defence of Kiev and the western zone.
 Quoting: Janey


The Russian "peace keeping" forces will enter eastern Ukraine on May 9. Meanwhile Kiev is preparing for martial law and curfew.
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And then chaos will begin in Kiev and the process will repeat with a full takeover of Kiev in mid to late June.
 Quoting: PIR


I would say a full takeover of Kiev might happen during the first days of June.

Ukraine's foreign minister has accused Russian troops of infiltrating and destabilising the east of the country, saying Moscow plans to invade and annex other regions. In an interview with Al Jazeera, Andrii Deshchytsia said that Russian "special troops" and intelligence officers were blackmailing and intimidating Ukrainian citizens to create a false impression of popular support for Moscow.
[link to www.kyivpost.com]





GLP