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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Russian soldiers assumed it was another Ukraine military jet aircraft (An-26). This assumption led to not properly identifying and verifying the aircraft, probably due in part because they downed an An-26 not two days ago. Sounds like they were 100% sure no civilian aircraft were in the airspace, until they weren't.

Burden of Proof in identifying and verifying aircraft targets lay with the BUK operators and their commanders. russians fucked up and shot it MH-17 down.
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Kievistas did it because their asses are kicked hard and they want to drag in NATO forces (and NATO forces want to be dragged in). It is cearly fabricated false flag operation and Kiev junta is directly responsible.
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clappa
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I am just wondering whether is was the sneaky Ukies' dirty trick or whether there is some puppetmaster behind it... this whole thing reminds of sending the Lusitania into the war zone...
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these are idiot street thugs for cry'in out loud.
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Thats propoganda. Girkin is Professional and US would dream to have one of his rating and quality, not some street thug. Think about it.
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so yer saying that Girkin's professionals shot down MH17 on purpose then. right?

i don't think so.
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No, his Professionalism will exclude giving orders on shooting down a passenger plane on that altitude.
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so yer saying MH17 was too high-up for Girkin's missiles, so he would have said don't fire?

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Russian soldiers assumed it was another Ukraine military jet aircraft (An-26). This assumption led to not properly identifying and verifying the aircraft, probably due in part because they downed an An-26 not two days ago. Sounds like they were 100% sure no civilian aircraft were in the airspace, until they weren't.

Burden of Proof in identifying and verifying aircraft targets lay with the BUK operators and their commanders. russians fucked up and shot it MH-17 down.
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You know AN-26 is not jet, is propeller aircraft, right?
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The Associated Press
BREAKING: Ukraine rebels claim to have 'most' of the data recording devices from crashed Malaysia plane
4:11 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Cover-up in full operation. So much for a proper, impartial investigation.
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Video shows artillery shelling near Lisicansk oil refinery.


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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Girkin account has always been hijacked. He didn't admit saying that.
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Motive you say?

BBC Radio 4 Today
Pro-Russian rebels controlling road in and out of crash site. Speculation they want to remove items that could be evidence - @HarrietSalem
4:04 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Putin and his clowns are totally out of fucking control.
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Russian soldiers assumed it was another Ukraine military jet aircraft (An-26). This assumption led to not properly identifying and verifying the aircraft, probably due in part because they downed an An-26 not two days ago. Sounds like they were 100% sure no civilian aircraft were in the airspace, until they weren't.

Burden of Proof in identifying and verifying aircraft targets lay with the BUK operators and their commanders. russians fucked up and shot it MH-17 down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59850434


Kievistas did it because their asses are kicked hard and they want to drag in NATO forces (and NATO forces want to be dragged in). It is cearly fabricated false flag operation and Kiev junta is directly responsible.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58014220


I am just wondering whether is was the sneaky Ukies' dirty trick or whether there is some puppetmaster behind it... this whole thing reminds of sending the Lusitania into the war zone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60277271


Puppetmasters no doubt. Heads of american secret services, NATO and other criminal organizations are in Kiev constantly.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

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Motive you say?

BBC Radio 4 Today
Pro-Russian rebels controlling road in and out of crash site. Speculation they want to remove items that could be evidence - @HarrietSalem
4:04 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Putin and his clowns are totally out of fucking control.
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"Motive" is formed before the "fact". capisch.

what you are trying to put forth is "actions showing consciousness of guilt".

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SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
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Thats propoganda. Girkin is Professional and US would dream to have one of his rating and quality, not some street thug. Think about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57088754


so yer saying that Girkin's professionals shot down MH17 on purpose then. right?

i don't think so.
 Quoting: Cats88


No, his Professionalism will exclude giving orders on shooting down a passenger plane on that altitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58014220


so yer saying MH17 was too high-up for Girkin's missiles, so he would have said don't fire?

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We better wait results of investigation and briefing about this FF.
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Heres a good one from Bloomberg. “Putin will continue acting in the same way,” said Markov. “What else can he do? Send in troops? Stop all help for the anti-fascist rebels? We all know that a band of armed criminals controls Kiev.”
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SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
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No dates on that pics, it is another pitiful fake. If rebels had operating BUKs ukronazis wouldnt fly and bomb civilians that easy.
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Kievistas did it because their asses are kicked hard and they want to drag in NATO forces (and NATO forces want to be dragged in). It is cearly fabricated false flag operation and Kiev junta is directly responsible.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58014220


I am just wondering whether is was the sneaky Ukies' dirty trick or whether there is some puppetmaster behind it... this whole thing reminds of sending the Lusitania into the war zone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60277271


Puppetmasters no doubt. Heads of american secret services, NATO and other criminal organizations are in Kiev constantly.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


hesright
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Putin calls for urgent Ukraine crisis settlement after jet crash #MH17
3:16 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Was this before or after his soldiers blew-up a Luhansk oil refinery?
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Girkin account has always been hijacked. He didn't admit saying that.
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Of course every secret service on the world will upload intercepted phone calls (and evidence of downing plane) on Youtube at first. /sarcasm off/

And, btw, isn't it strange? They are able to intercept phonecalls of militia but constatntly are not able to know their moves, actions and prevent of ambushes of their units? Another funny fake from Banderistan. And dont't forget - this poor fake evidences they prepare constantly (false orders for making list of Jews, false Strelkovs orders for lay down weapons or mobilistation all male population, false documents etc...

Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 07/18/2014 04:33 AM
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Putin calls for urgent Ukraine crisis settlement after jet crash #MH17
3:16 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Was this before or after his soldiers blew-up a Luhansk oil refinery?
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Putin needs to just invade with 75,000 men and ignore everybody.
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Paul Gypteau
Putin calls for urgent Ukraine crisis settlement after jet crash #MH17
3:16 AM - 18 Jul 2014

Was this before or after his soldiers blew-up a Luhansk oil refinery?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59850434


Putin needs to just invade with 75,000 men and ignore everybody.
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hesright
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

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RT @RT_com · 13 min

All Russian flights to Dnepropetrovsk & Odessa, #Ukraine, cease for two days [link to on.rt.com] #MH17
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VoiceOfDonetsk @VoiceOfDonetsk
SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130


and

Damon M. Wilson @DamonMacWilson
AP reporters saw Buk surface-to-air missile system near Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. [link to ln.is]
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VoiceOfDonetsk @VoiceOfDonetsk
SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130


and

Damon M. Wilson @DamonMacWilson
AP reporters saw Buk surface-to-air missile system near Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. [link to ln.is]
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and


Jul 14: Ukraine AF An-26 shot down by repaired Buk SAM, Russians report.

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VoiceOfDonetsk @VoiceOfDonetsk
SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130


and

Damon M. Wilson @DamonMacWilson
AP reporters saw Buk surface-to-air missile system near Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. [link to ln.is]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130

well, if that were the case, AP would be running banner headlines right now,
so they could get their Pulitzer.
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This twitter will soon liquidated.
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bump
Poor boy. Was he alive?
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Do not allow Putin's Personal Propaganda Brigade to create a new narrative, a false reality. Which they are feverishly trying to go by forming a debate as to whether the pro-Moscow militia had the BUK system or not.

The Russian soldiers have BUK on both sides of the border. Secondarily, the debate as to whether or not the rebels had BUK has it's place.

The attempt to foster the belief that if the rebels didn't have the BUK, then no one on the pro-Moscow side had BUK, must be robustly challenged.
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VoiceOfDonetsk @VoiceOfDonetsk
SAM system "Buk" of the terrorists today in Snezhnoe. In this area Boeing was hit.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130


and

Damon M. Wilson @DamonMacWilson
AP reporters saw Buk surface-to-air missile system near Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. [link to ln.is]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52826130

well, if that were the case, AP would be running banner headlines right now,
so they could get their Pulitzer.
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They even took pictures:

@shaneharris:
Hiding in plain sight. c. 12km from the crash site. MT @Dbnmjr: SAM "Buk" in #Torez
[link to pic.twitter.com]
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Strelkov say, that many dead peoples, what was find in place plane was dead few days... They not lost live in plane crash.

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RT @RT_com · 1 min

#MH17 LATEST: 173 Dutch, 44 Malaysian, 27 Australian, 12 Indonesian, 9 British, 4 German, 4 Belgian, 1 Canadian, 1 NZ [link to on.rt.com]

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Russian soldiers assumed it was another Ukraine military jet aircraft (An-26). This assumption led to not properly identifying and verifying the aircraft, probably due in part because they downed an An-26 not two days ago. Sounds like they were 100% sure no civilian aircraft were in the airspace, until they weren't.

Burden of Proof in identifying and verifying aircraft targets lay with the BUK operators and their commanders. russians fucked up and shot it MH-17 down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59850434


Kievistas did it because their asses are kicked hard and they want to drag in NATO forces (and NATO forces want to be dragged in). It is cearly fabricated false flag operation and Kiev junta is directly responsible.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Clearly fabricated? Please present your evidence. You will be the most important person in the world right now if you can substantiate this fabrication claim. Do tell.
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This twitter will soon liquidated.
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bump
Poor boy. Was he alive?
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Why ANB liquidated twitter of dispatcher?
Who now prove that Boeing was accompanied by two fighter?
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Strelkov say, that many dead peoples, what was find in place plane was dead few days... They not lost live in plane crash.

[link to sovpl.forum24.ru]
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This whole story stinks.

What we are dealing with is a freaking false flag with MH370 used as the downed jet yesterday.
The western MSM and intelligence agencies reaction lead to only one conclusion: Blame the russians, send NATO in!
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