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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 1m
Putin is showing no sign of backing down over Ukraine: [link to bloom.bg] via @BloombergNews #cdnpoli #Ukraine #Russia
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 1m
Putin is showing no sign of backing down over Ukraine: [link to bloom.bg] via @BloombergNews #cdnpoli #Ukraine #Russia
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why is this called backing down? it's exactly the opposite.
wtf
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 1m
Putin is showing no sign of backing down over Ukraine: [link to bloom.bg] via @BloombergNews #cdnpoli #Ukraine #Russia
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

why is this called backing down? it's exactly the opposite.
wtf
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Ugh, my mistake lol
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I still dont believe Putin invades, he waits for Ukies push on Crimea.
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I still dont believe Putin invades, he waits for Ukies push on Crimea.
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Too long term and unpredictable. The time to act is now.
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to do all they can to make it possible to claim that they tried everything with the UN before doing anything militarily.
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The only way war can be avoided is for a joint OP anything more than the fuse is lit and the clock ticks
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I still dont believe Putin invades, he waits for Ukies push on Crimea.
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You point make sense but if the *war* is inevitable make is better to strike now ?!
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I still dont believe Putin invades, he waits for Ukies push on Crimea.
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Too long term and unpredictable. The time to act is now.
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You're probably right about sooner being better, one would think if this is what Putin has in mind (since more lives will be lost and clearly this situation will keep worsening by the day and hour until interrupted).
So it's the UN and international law time.

Still I think Putin would use methods such as closing airspace, going after supply lines and various means of interrupting chaos on the population. Trying to head 'em off at the pass toward the squishy eastern border and crimea (and warm water port).

Agree he really has to do something now.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to do all they can to make it possible to claim that they tried everything with the UN before doing anything militarily.
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You are so right I think !

What if some one pressed charges soon for all those who STALLED the Humanitarian aid ???

This situation is beyond humanitarian.
Kiev, Nato, and many others are holding up aid to these people ... in my eyes THAT is a warcrime too !!!


xxxK

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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
The Interfax headline means nothing. It is typical Interfax and just means that Russia will propose something at the UNSC meeting today. After it gets shot down Russia will say it is surprised and disappointed. Anybody's guess after that. Being turned down by the UNSC does nothing to bolster Russia's legal case for going in though. I still doubt anything will come of it.

It won't be human tragedy but decisive reversals in the fighting that will draw Russia in. As long as the militias hold their own the bleeding will continue IMO. Maybe a mass casualty event would work but after all of the blood so far I don't know what would qualify as mass casualty event that would really be a game changer.
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
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They are going to remove troops from Crimea and return it to Ukrainian control, Russian economy is collapsing and they just cannot afford the burden + they know war with the west would only destroy Russia.
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What if some one pressed charges soon for all those who STALLED the Humanitarian aid ???

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I doubt that would help at this point.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to do all they can to make it possible to claim that they tried everything with the UN before doing anything militarily.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


The only way war can be avoided is for a joint OP anything more than the fuse is lit and the clock ticks
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Maybe they should just a copy of the US/NATO-lapdog playbook for Libya and use that as justification.
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PM @David_Cameron: "It is clear that Russia views NATO as an adversary" #Ukraine #NATOSummitUK [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
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PM @David_Cameron: "It is clear that Russia views NATO as an adversary" #Ukraine #NATOSummitUK [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
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Is this the new LGBT word for enemy?
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US European Command dispatched "about a dozen" members of US military to Kiev to advise Ukrainian gov't.
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UK wants NATO "to agree on new defense capacity building missions to other parts of world, eg Georgia or Middle East" [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
That's why the UNSC emergency meeting: MOSCOW INSISTS ON SETTING UP HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN EASTERN UKRAINE -- RIA

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 39s
"Russia believes it is absolutely necessary to mobilize the international community for providing emergency assistance to the Donetsk...

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 1m
and Luhansk regions where the residents are facing an imminent humanitarian catastrophe," the statement said.

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 46s
The playbook is clear...

really does sound like the Russians are going in.

but we have all been here before a lot of words but NO

Action.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to do all they can to make it possible to claim that they tried everything with the UN before doing anything militarily.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


The only way war can be avoided is for a joint OP anything more than the fuse is lit and the clock ticks
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Maybe they should just a copy of the US/NATO-lapdog playbook for Libya and use that as justification.
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Russia already has said there is an option open I can't remember the direct name of the article but it would allow them to act with prior warning to the UN
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Russia already has said there is an option open I can't remember the direct name of the article but it would allow them to act with prior warning to the UN
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IIRC they claimed they could use the right of self-defence to act without UN approval.
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to remove troops from Crimea and return it to Ukrainian control, Russian economy is collapsing and they just cannot afford the burden + they know war with the west would only destroy Russia.
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LOL! That reads like a wish list with nothing but dreamy projections supporting it(not)..."Dear Santa, please help me take candy from this baby it is so easy to fulfill my request (for the following Corporations and grudges I hold for 70 years..)".
lol
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
What if some one pressed charges soon for all those who STALLED the Humanitarian aid ???

This situation is beyond humanitarian.
Kiev, Nato, and many others are holding up aid to these people ... in my eyes THAT is a warcrime too !!!


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


Putin is the one holding up aid by starting and worsening the whole thing in the first place.

Putin keeps faking 'concern' for civilians in Ukraine, while he sends in more terrorists & weapons to cause more death & destruction.
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to remove troops from Crimea and return it to Ukrainian control, Russian economy is collapsing and they just cannot afford the burden + they know war with the west would only destroy Russia.
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LOL! That reads like a wish list with nothing but dreamy projections supporting it(not)..."Dear Santa, please help me take candy from this baby it is so easy to fulfill my request (for the following Corporations and grudges I hold for 70 years..)".
lol
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lol
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
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They are going to remove troops from Crimea and return it to Ukrainian control, Russian economy is collapsing and they just cannot afford the burden + they know war with the west would only destroy Russia.
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here is a posting about this meeting from earlier today:

Guys, I know you enjoy waiting for doom. Here's some news from Russia: [link to lenta.ru] Putin, key ministers and both chambers of the parliament are going to meet in Yalta, Crimea on the 14th of August. The happening is announced as a way of attracting investors to the regions, but actually it is very unusual for Russia to attract investors in such a way. Also the parliament is in recess till October. So this occasion is highly suspicious. Both chambers of parliament and the President is what you need to declare a war.
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What if some one pressed charges soon for all those who STALLED the Humanitarian aid ???

This situation is beyond humanitarian.
Kiev, Nato, and many others are holding up aid to these people ... in my eyes THAT is a warcrime too !!!


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


Putin is the one holding up aid by starting and worsening the whole thing in the first place.

Putin keeps faking 'concern' for civilians in Ukraine, while he sends in more terrorists & weapons to cause more death & destruction.
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That's true 50%. The other 50 are for the West.
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PM @David_Cameron: "It is clear that Russia views NATO as an adversary" #Ukraine #NATOSummitUK [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
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I think it has reason to. The expansion eastward when it told post Soviet Russia it wouldn't. How can they, from their perspective, not see it as an act of hostility?

NATO has done absolutely everything it could to back them into a corner.
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PUTIN, MEDVEDEV AND STATE DUMA TO HAVE EXTRAORDINARY MEETING IN CRIMEA NEXT WEEK, VEDOMOSTI SAYS [link to www.vedomosti.ru] …
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


They are going to remove troops from Crimea and return it to Ukrainian control, Russian economy is collapsing and they just cannot afford the burden + they know war with the west would only destroy Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


here is a posting about this meeting from earlier today:

Guys, I know you enjoy waiting for doom. Here's some news from Russia: [link to lenta.ru] Putin, key ministers and both chambers of the parliament are going to meet in Yalta, Crimea on the 14th of August. The happening is announced as a way of attracting investors to the regions, but actually it is very unusual for Russia to attract investors in such a way. Also the parliament is in recess till October. So this occasion is highly suspicious. Both chambers of parliament and the President is what you need to declare a war.
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 Quoting: °Lucy°

And Yalta is a special place for such meetings.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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UK wants NATO "to agree on new defense capacity building missions to other parts of world, eg Georgia or Middle East" [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …
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Here we go, NATO expanded just as we all predicted.
Because of the so called 'Russian threat'.

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What if some one pressed charges soon for all those who STALLED the Humanitarian aid ???

This situation is beyond humanitarian.
Kiev, Nato, and many others are holding up aid to these people ... in my eyes THAT is a warcrime too !!!


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


Putin is the one holding up aid by starting and worsening the whole thing in the first place.

Putin keeps faking 'concern' for civilians in Ukraine, while he sends in more terrorists & weapons to cause more death & destruction.
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lolatu GTFO whaahahahahaha !





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