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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Additional details on the RU jets over the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea:


The jet, a Russian Su-24, made numerous low-altitude passes on Saturday over the USS Donald Cook, a guided-missile Navy destroyer in the western Black Sea, the Pentagon confirmed.

According to officials, the jet made a total of 12 passes over the course of 90 minutes. It did not once respond to multiple contacts and warnings from the USS Donald Cook, despite the fact that the U.S. Navy ship was able to reach the cockpit directly.

A second Russian Su-24 was in the area the entire time, but did not make any similarly provocative maneuvers.


[link to www.foxnews.com]
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yeah once the 1st plane is painted the 2nd buzzes in up the stern...
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A U.S. military official also said that a Russian Navy ship, a frigate, has been shadowing the U.S. warship, remaining within visual distance but not close enough to be unsafe. The official was not authorized to discuss the incident publicly so spoke on condition of anonymity.

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 Quoting: Newshunter


Good then!
Maybe it's not their time to die yet!
Nobody ever blamed Russians for being discrete.
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If Russians have been following the USS Donald Cook internet news footprint they would know it has a cocky firing commander aboard. So this action might have been a provocative one to actually provoke a real incident.
Of they are itching to get shot down then it means they have been planing ahead.
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All of you write me up a case study and recommendation proposal on what we should do and convincing evidence of those recommendations having their desired effects.

I expect it on my desk by the end of the business day.

I'm sure a couple of armchair generals such as yourself will have no trouble going beyond snark to something of substance.

In lieu of the case study, you may Instagram me a shot of you signing up for the service.

Thank you.
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lol I don't consider myself much of an armchair general, but still:

What I think the west should do is 1) tell Kiev that they are free to defend themselves if they are able, but we wont provide "boots on the ground assistance". I would provide intel and radar cover (via the AWACs moved to Poland) though.

2) Tell Russia that we know their are Russian special forces on the ground and can prove it if needed, and tell them to get out.

3) Keep the pressure on at the UN and through sanctions on Russian companies, and keep open the threat of sanctions on Russian gas.

4) If Russia continue to ignore everything and insist that there are no Russians in Ukraine, start to obviously reinforce NATO borders in Poland and the Baltic states.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


I'd do those things..and a few others..which I will not openly suggest here cuz I'm sure it'll get a few people all riled up and Luis has enough on the plate
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You are a good man, Luis.
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I know, really... but it's very difficult to rule this thread. There are a lot of old hate in the region. The thing i know is that there are many powerful people that want this hate to go on... Portugal and Spain are a good exemple to the world, we have wars for centuries, but for some centuries to our days we respect each other and now it's impossible we go to war. We are friends now! hf
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A thread on Ukraine is a thread on a country that suffered the Holodomyr, very recently, 6-10 million starved to death intentionally. The Hate will be bottomless in the wrong circumstances.
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Yes i understand it, but it's very bad...
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Awesome thread, I payed to read it
Eat the Reds
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how come a country on the other side of the ocean i telling the EU how we should deal with our russian neigbours?

If all hell breaks lose in europe they can relax in north america and enjoy the show.


Boko Haram Islamist militant group have killed 70 civilians in nigeria yesterday. More than 1500 this year.

If they want to play world police go help in Africa. Go help in North Korea where 100.000 people are getting tortured in prison camps. How come no one gives a fuck about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56812916


I hear you. The reason they don't go in and help is they have nothing they need right now. That will change in the future and they too will feel the boots on their neck.

But remember, the West comes in with promises and money (in Ukraine's case, not a lot of money but apparently a lot of promises) which they will break as soon as we get what we want and will leave another little busted up country in civil war in our wake.

That is the new reality.
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UKRAINE PROTESTERS BURN TIRES IN FRONT OF PARLIAMENT IN KIEV, DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV -- WITNESSES


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Only thing to save the unelected government is to start a war
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what a joke the situation has become
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what because Little kids aren't losing limbs and the back off their skulls its a joke ?

Sorry but this is far from being a Joke there is a lot a stake here and honestly anyone who finds this funny will soon find out the true meaning of poetic justice...

Sorry for being a little graphic above guys no harm intended hf
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aliens will involve if all out war breaks in.
Breaking point.
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:babystop:
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:))

I just have to say that it is proper in any thread :))
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The US is pushing for war because war is a very lucrative business in a failing economy.

Nobody cares about us... the citizens of the USA - it's always, all about $$$$$$. What a life !!
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


I agree with this fully. We can barely take care of ourselves much less run a full scale war.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


the moment a war starts any rights you have left even though we may say they are cracking down on us all in the west, Will be gone War is a business of power you are effectively placed under a dictatorship....
 Quoting: Anderson_G



USA push for war because they are the only super power in the world and they want to keep it that way. The last thing they want is a united peaceful eurasian continent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56812916


I think that present situations demonstrated that there is more than just one super power.
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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
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Source at Aviano U.S. Air Base in Italy tells TRN all leave has been cancelled from April 16th onwards. Source works refueling planes and says they have TRIPLED the amount of fuel in stock and says planes carrying MUNITIONS have been landing at a rate of 2 per hour since April 10. Source further says it looks like they are preparing for a big operation. He has gone silent now as he says it is standard procedure for all social communications to be blocked on base.


[link to www.turnerradionetwork.com]

(Link above constantly updated)
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This is the post that scares me the most.
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UKRAINE PROTESTERS BURN TIRES IN FRONT OF PARLIAMENT IN KIEV, DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV -- WITNESSES



 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
Yes I Did !!!!

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Euromaidan PR‏@EuromaidanPR·3 mins
MaidanMeeting in #Kyiv today decided 2 demand actions or President to resign tmrw morning.Some activists headed 2 #RADA already @HromadskeTV
 Quoting: < DL >


It's not the President that's the problem, it's the army not carrying out his orders.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


I would bet my last $20 that the people demanding the resignation of the "pretend" president are in fact recruited, hired, and paid for by the evil EU, NATO, USA, etc..... because they believe that HE isn't leading. They are so stupid !! We all know that Ukraine Military does NOT want to fire on their brothers. The evil cabal has no sense of "right" and "wrong" and won't ever be able to figure this out. I'm proud of the Ukraine Military that refuses to kill their own people !!!! hf

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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


Why should he read what it said... the whole statement is bullshit because PROTESTERS is not in quotation marks.

"PROTESTERS" indeed.
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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


pro-putin?
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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


yes but kiev should be in favor of the new gov....who is protesting?
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 Quoting: Luisport


Only thing to save the unelected government is to start a war
 Quoting: Unit 88


That's fine if the military are willing to start the war, which it seems they're not.
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I agree with this fully. We can barely take care of ourselves much less run a full scale war.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


the moment a war starts any rights you have left even though we may say they are cracking down on us all in the west, Will be gone War is a business of power you are effectively placed under a dictatorship....
 Quoting: Anderson_G



USA push for war because they are the only super power in the world and they want to keep it that way. The last thing they want is a united peaceful eurasian continent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56812916


I think that present situations demonstrated that there is more than just one super power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56816386


A super power on their way out...nothing like a war for a failing economy. That'll be the deciding factor on whether or not this crisis escalates. From a financial point of view, war seems likely.
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 Quoting: Luisport


Only thing to save the unelected government is to start a war
 Quoting: Unit 88


That's fine if the military are willing to start the war, which it seems they're not.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Well Putin gets a free road?
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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


yes but kiev should be in favor of the new gov....who is protesting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


It is just more escalation BS. CIA Handbook for overthrow being used against the West by Putin. Same story different side.
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 Quoting: Luisport



why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


yes but kiev should be in favor of the new gov....who is protesting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


Based on whats been said earlier, Right Sector, because the don't think Turchynov is doing enough against what they see as Russian aggression.
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why????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


uhhh did you read what it said.

DEMAND RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT TURCHYNOV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917


yes but kiev should be in favor of the new gov....who is protesting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56429308


It is just more escalation BS. CIA Handbook for overthrow being used against the West by Putin. Same story different side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2082917

maby it's a way to get Nato in Ukraine...
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 Quoting: Luisport


Only thing to save the unelected government is to start a war
 Quoting: Unit 88


Or resign!
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EU and US wasted billions already trying to support a dying country ....Putin will have reclaimed his old land without raising a blow...

He must be laffin' his arse off , whilst the EU and US have no clue how he did it and pocketed their money....

Well played Vladd , well played...
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 Quoting: Luisport


Only thing to save the unelected government is to start a war
 Quoting: Unit 88


That's fine if the military are willing to start the war, which it seems they're not.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Well Putin gets a free road?
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The two choices are a major war today or a major war later on down the line.
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Well Putin gets a free road?
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It certainly seems that way.
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Eastern Ukrainian self-defense forces are sharing the info that Kiev (and Brennan) is about to stage a falseflag attack to be blamed on them
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 Quoting: Luisport


Hah.

This should be good. Will he suppress the very same people who got him into power?

Now that would a total farce for the west.
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The US is pushing for war because war is a very lucrative business in a failing economy.

Nobody cares about us... the citizens of the USA - it's always, all about $$$$$$. What a life !!
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


I agree with this fully. We can barely take care of ourselves much less run a full scale war.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


the moment a war starts any rights you have left even though we may say they are cracking down on us all in the west, Will be gone War is a business of power you are effectively placed under a dictatorship....
 Quoting: Anderson_G



USA push for war because they are the only super power in the world and they want to keep it that way. The last thing they want is a united peaceful eurasian continent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56812916


Bad for business...





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