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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Interior Ministry confirmed the evacuation of the Kiev railway station after reports of a bomb threat!

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23:09 Kremlin spokesman refuses to say in what situation Russia may use force in southeastern Ukraine

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57001489



Exactly. First they drop all those denials about troops and then they reiterate the option to use force but leave it uncertain in what everyone knows is a hair trigger situation. At the same time saying everyone, not just Russia, has an obligation to de-escalate. Not much being left to the imagination.
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Fresh, just released video from VICE News crew in Ukraine.


Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine (Dispatch Twenty Seven)

[link to www.youtube.com]
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See this video!

This is a global awakening!!!


Age of Ethics!
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WHO you're are calling terrosists?

3:00 min. EPIC! :clappa:
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BREAKING: Obama has signed S. 2195, which bars Iran's proposed UN ambassador from entering the U.S.
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Interfax news

April 18, 2014

22:09 Russian economy not in emergency - Peskov

OMG WTF??

Where's the WAT lady graphic when you need it?
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BEATIFUL VIDEO!!!!!

Europe History ftw! Note how situation calmed down after first and second world war, impressive! The end of URSS seems just a "little" thing compared what happened for 1000 years before that.

P.S It's OT but note also the perfect unity of Italy lol, was an incredible mix of different "states" until 1800/1900. 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57001489


Spain looks mostly oblivious to anything lol!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


Portugal didnt change almost in all that period of time, just did defend sometimes against invaders :) and they did with
.5asuccess
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Every time I refresh the page my heart skips a beat.

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NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 5m
Is Putin more likely to invade a NATO country or send mysterious "militants" to start seizing buildings/territory? [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org]


WOW TALK ABOUT FANNING THE DRUMS OF WAR. NATO is in full

BULLSHIT MODE TO and I am a proud American but even that

IS Way over the TOP in BULLSHIT.hf hf
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Interfax news

April 18, 2014

22:09 Russian economy not in emergency - Peskov

OMG WTF??

Where's the WAT lady graphic when you need it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


I believe you mean the one with JACKIE CHAN saying WTF DID I JUST READ?!?!?

Yeah thats not a woman and that MAN could hand YOUR ass to you..
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I believe or should i say know, that ur assumpsion is WROOOOONG.
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Assumption*
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


BEATIFUL VIDEO!!!!!

Europe History ftw! Note how situation calmed down after first and second world war, impressive! The end of URSS seems just a "little" thing compared what happened for 1000 years before that.

P.S It's OT but note also the perfect unity of Italy lol, was an incredible mix of different "states" until 1800/1900. 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57001489


Spain looks mostly oblivious to anything lol!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


Portugal didnt change almost in all that period of time, just did defend sometimes against invaders :) and they did with
.5asuccess
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56974708


hf
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Stealing Ukrainian warships, NOT Crimean ones was not acceptable either Mr. Putin, but thats what you did! Tell the Kremlin to think about that one.
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When did Russia steal a warship? How is it stealing if the crew voluntarily gives it up and joins Russia? If they want it back, maybe they should pay their gas bill.
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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 4m
BREAKING #Slavyansk's separatists announced that all people who speak #Ukrainian in this city are wanted [link to www.pravda.com.ua] … | EMPR
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BREAKING #Slavyansk's separatists announced that all people who speak #Ukrainian in this city are wanted [link to www.pravda.com.ua] … | EMPR
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65 WAT
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Every time I refresh the page my heart skips a beat.
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See your doctor. There is either somethin wrong with your heart, or computer, or both.
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Interfax news

April 18, 2014

22:09 Russian economy not in emergency - Peskov

OMG WTF??

Where's the WAT lady graphic when you need it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


Compared to Greece and the United States the Russians are doing well. I posted about this new propaganda that will be coming. Since they want the sanctions to appear to be working, the new propaganda will be about how bad the Russian economy is.
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NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 5m
Is Putin more likely to invade a NATO country or send mysterious "militants" to start seizing buildings/territory? [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org]


WOW TALK ABOUT FANNING THE DRUMS OF WAR. NATO is in full

BULLSHIT MODE TO and I am a proud American but even that

IS Way over the TOP in BULLSHIT.hf hf
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Indeed. Seems like some of the old NATO guard are REALLY missing the cold war days and are hungry to get the evil Commies again. Worrying.
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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 12m
BREAKING #Slavyansk's separatists announced that all people who speak #Ukrainian in this city are wanted [link to www.pravda.com.ua] … | EMPR


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@jimsciutto: NATO comdr @PMBreedlove: "What is happening in E. #Ukraine is a military operation..being carried out at the direction of #Russia"

Yes, sure seems someone desperately wants a war.
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#Russian saboteurs are massively arriving to #Odessa [link to uainfo.org] … | EMPR #Ukraine [link to pic.twitter.com]
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The EU has already prepared a new package of sanctions against Russia: they sent deep into the Russian economy and Russian assets - Commissioner

[link to censor.net.ua]
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Interfax news

April 18, 2014

22:09 Russian economy not in emergency - Peskov

OMG WTF??

Where's the WAT lady graphic when you need it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56952442


Compared to Greece and the United States the Russians are doing well. I posted about this new propaganda that will be coming. Since they want the sanctions to appear to be working, the new propaganda will be about how bad the Russian economy is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45481459


Greece doesn't have an economy anymore so a similar comparison is out of the question and if you look really closely nobody is really hiding this fact...

As for the initial message from Interfax, it was just out of the blue. That's why I posted it.
What kind of emergency is he talking about?
How much different is exactly the Russian economy compared to the Western economies and what should constitute an emergency for that type of economy?
Or are we and them in uncharted waters here?
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Exactly. First they drop all those denials about troops and then they reiterate the option to use force but leave it uncertain in what everyone knows is a hair trigger situation. At the same time saying everyone, not just Russia, has an obligation to de-escalate. Not much being left to the imagination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39365109

There is not the slightest evidence that USA has done even a single thing to uphold their obligations under the Geneva Agreement. Now is there? Not a single thing.
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Interior Ministry confirmed the evacuation of the Kiev railway station after reports of a bomb threat!

@RT

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My take:

1) Russia won't invade UA any time soon. [Fulfilled so far]

2) Russia WILL support the resistance in East UA, whether it's a pro-Russian resistance or a Right Sector resistance. Anything that destabilizes UA. [Fulfilled]

3) UA's failure to deal with the revolt using small-scale means (i.e. what they're doing now) will force UA to deploy significant forces to quell the revolt. [Unfulfilled as yet, but looking necessary]

4) Hence, Russia will draw UA into a bitter and messy battle in the east, similarly drawing UA's attention and logistics into that region. It's a basic chess stategy: encourage the enemy to commit to a particular region of the board using your pawns, while arranging your key pieces for a later strike. [In progress]

5) Increased UA army deployment will (i) encourage more uprisings, (ii) encourage more defections. [Unfulfilled, but looking likely]

6) At this point, expect increased domestic strife in West UA. [In progress]

7) With UA focused on the east and destabilized by riots in the west, expect a trigger event. This could be as simple as the UN refusing to deploy peacekeeping forces, as dramatic as a bombing of a civilian target. [In progress - The Geneva Agreement refrained from establishing a roadmap to peace in Ukraine and Kiev is under a bomb threat]

8) Russia will then launch the CLASSIC Zhukov Maneuver: A pincer attack from Crimea and Senkovka, tracing a line along the Dnieper. Russia will then advance into East UA toward Kharkiv and Donetsk, with paratroopers seizing key stations in the eastern region, including taking operational command of militia forces, particularly in Sloviansk and Mariupol. The objective will be, therefore, threefold: (i) secure the Dnieper; (ii) secure the key communication, transportation, and logistical spots in the east; (iii) encircle Kiev. These three objectives, if achieved, will render UA unable to fight without Western support.

9) Expect small-scale special forces operations to seize Odessa and possibly link up with Moldova.

Timeline? Maybe a couple of weeks to 3 months from now to begin. By July, the US will be deep into its political campaigning season. Also, the later Russia can start their attack, the less time the West will have to retaliate, due to the advent of autumn rains and winter snow in the region. Importantly, Putin doesn't want to overplay his hand. He has Crimea. But he could lose it if he isn't careful. He is patient, but decisive like the chess master he is. He has a plan, and when conditions are such that he can implement it, he will. He's playing an emotional game right now, banking (successfully) on the frustration and hesitation of the Ukrainians to undermine their own nascent state.

(Originally posted 4/16/14, prior to the Geneva Conference. Thread: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 (Page 2618)

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As I suggested, we can expect threats like this to increase within Western Ukraine. Expect more to follow in the next few days/weeks, and perhaps even some actual bombings or other similar events. The immediate question is now twofold: when will UA commit greater forces to the East, and when will more significant defections begin (as occurred in Crimea, for instance)?
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Russia Confirms Troop Build-Up Near Ukraine; Warns West, More Sanctions "Absolutely Unacceptable" DON'T_USE_THIS.com/ny7zdzz
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Russia Confirms Troop Build-Up Near Ukraine; Warns West, More Sanctions "Absolutely Unacceptable" DON'T_USE_THIS.com/ny7zdzz
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Sanctions after the engineered agreement may very well be the casus belli Russia is looking for. Alone, it will be insufficient. But in conjunction with continued suppression of pro-Russians in the East, continued rhetoric from Kiev (particularly Timoshenko), and the threat of a fascist Right Sector uprising, it will cause Russia to move.
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Great post The Original Mind. Very well written. hi
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Ukrainian analyst Dmitri Tymchuk: Dnipropetrovsk governor/oligarch Kolomoyskiy paid first $10,000 reward for apprehended Russian operative

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BREAKING: Obama has signed S. 2195, which bars Iran's proposed UN ambassador from entering the U.S.
 Quoting: tmorais


This is a violation of international law. The UN headquarters should be moved outside of the United States because of this. They don't like this guy because he was a translator for the Iranians during the embassy takeover in 1979, 35 years ago. This shows the whole world the insanity of American thinking.





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