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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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This is all nice & dandy but there's absolutely no guarantee that the splitting up of ex-Soviet and ex-commie countries will stop with this. In fact, this splitting up will encourage further advancement of the Russian agenda of surrounding itself with enclaves which can be easily destabilized and used as launchpads for proxy wars.
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FFS, what are you talking about?! You are saying like Russia has an agenda to take over whole Europe...does anybody really believes this shit or are shills just pushing the idea as a part of an ongoing demonizing of Russians thats been going on for at least 200 years..
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Yes, Russia DOES have an agenda, like any other empire, to dominate Europe economically and strategically, or at least parts of it. Where the f*ck have you been living? That's obvious to anyone with a decent brain!
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Oh, its obvious? Could you show me some example of Russias actions to take over EU? Cause all I see for the past 25 years is expantion of NATO towards Russia. Your belief would be funny if it wouldnt be so sad...
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bump
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Now Vladimir smacks Kiev in the face by creating a safe passage corridor for ATO forces to save the lives of countless conscripts. Wow it really is chess vs checkers.
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right.
and then, after Putin purges all of the Kiev Regime people,
they can be reunited with their wives and children.
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Putin just take side with terrorist and declared himself and russia federation as backers of terrorists AGAINST ukraine.
In other words, he directly declared State of Ukraine as enemy of russia federation
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The "State of Ukraine" is a failed state since the "Maidan"... A failed project... Crimea is Russia. Some other oblasts are going to be Novorossia or whatever the people inhabiting those oblasts want to call it... and the rest of the world will just have to deal with it.
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i know serbia has some serious problem with the knowledge of the word "state" and people there are so disperate to accept to trolling like maniacs into forums 24/7 to gain some bread by russia fed... but please, now just shut up. banana2
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How are your communes lately? Veneto and Lega Nord waiting to see how will this Novorossia story end up? Or just scared of Rome and Pope much? chuckle
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Veneto leaders and Lega Nord are the joke of whole country, being associated with newrussia (or what is the name of this terrorist group) it's an insult for newrussia itself i think, lol.
And i didn't get the rome and pope thing, sorry
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Well, there are some folks even in this thread, who thinks 20 A-10 jets with hundred flyovers would solve the problem in 24 hours chuckle That guy who wrote it, apperantly forgot about S-400 and S-500 gadgets. Who really knows how manny S-500 Russians produced. It would get real ugly for NATO in first hours of campaign, I'm sure in that. And when B-2's would start to fall down the hard reality Will kick west in the face. NATO cant do shit here. I'm not underestimating NATO...far from that. But fact, that Russia is so close to the border tells us, they dont really need to perform invasion. NATO would have to establish a major logistic project while Russia doesnt. They are right there in the neighbourhood.
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It may be they are willing to sacrifice a few dozen modern jets (not the ancient A-10s so much), in order to uncover the capabilities and limitations (and weaknesses) of the S-500. How better to find out than to lose some in combat?
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'They' will not sacrifice 'a few dozen modern jets' they don't need to. 'They' have the ability to
light-up SAMS in several different ways.
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But Russia has cloaking devices from Donetsk factory...you lose
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FFS, what are you talking about?! You are saying like Russia has an agenda to take over whole Europe...does anybody really believes this shit or are shills just pushing the idea as a part of an ongoing demonizing of Russians thats been going on for at least 200 years..
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yes, Russia DOES have an agenda, like any other empire, to dominate Europe economically and strategically, or at least parts of it. Where the f*ck have you been living? That's obvious to anyone with a decent brain!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55885522


Oh, its obvious? Could you show me some example of Russias actions to take over EU? Cause all I see for the past 25 years is expantion of NATO towards Russia. Your belief would be funny if it wouldnt be so sad...
 Quoting: Matjaz


Lol it didn't happen because russians are not able to walk for 30 meters without shooting in their own feets. Conquer Europe its their wet dream but, just like in the past, it won't happen.
And NATO it's a legit alliance, it can move everywhere if a state is in the alliance. Period. If Ukraine tomorrow enters NATO, NATO troops will move 1 meter before russian border and russia has just to shut up.
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FFS, what are you talking about?! You are saying like Russia has an agenda to take over whole Europe...does anybody really believes this shit or are shills just pushing the idea as a part of an ongoing demonizing of Russians thats been going on for at least 200 years..
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yes, Russia DOES have an agenda, like any other empire, to dominate Europe economically and strategically, or at least parts of it. Where the f*ck have you been living? That's obvious to anyone with a decent brain!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55885522


Oh, its obvious? Could you show me some example of Russias actions to take over EU? Cause all I see for the past 25 years is expantion of NATO towards Russia. Your belief would be funny if it wouldnt be so sad...
 Quoting: Matjaz


Lol it didn't happen because russians are not able to walk for 30 meters without shooting in their own feets. Conquer Europe its their wet dream but, just like in the past, it won't happen.
And NATO it's a legit alliance, it can move everywhere if a state is in the alliance. Period. If Ukraine tomorrow enters NATO, NATO troops will move 1 meter before russian border and russia has just to shut up.
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why not 53 centimeters?
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doesnt' say corridor to RUSSIA

[link to kremlin.ru]
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RT Kremlin press agency said that
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We will wait for approval from Vatican though rex
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Yes, Russia DOES have an agenda, like any other empire, to dominate Europe economically and strategically, or at least parts of it. Where the f*ck have you been living? That's obvious to anyone with a decent brain!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55885522


Oh, its obvious? Could you show me some example of Russias actions to take over EU? Cause all I see for the past 25 years is expantion of NATO towards Russia. Your belief would be funny if it wouldnt be so sad...
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Lol it didn't happen because russians are not able to walk for 30 meters without shooting in their own feets. Conquer Europe its their wet dream but, just like in the past, it won't happen.
And NATO it's a legit alliance, it can move everywhere if a state is in the alliance. Period. If Ukraine tomorrow enters NATO, NATO troops will move 1 meter before russian border and russia has just to shut up.
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bsflag

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Uhm, REMINDER: you can also use words to discuss why you think it's a bullshit and why i should be a stupid. banana2
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RT ‏@RT_com · 55s
URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


To Russia? hmm
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Why is that problem for you?

“I urge the militias to open a humanitarian corridor for Ukrainian troops that were surrounded, in order to avoid meaningless victims and provide them with the opportunity to freely withdraw from the battlefield area, to be reunited with their families, to return to their mothers, wives and children,” Putin said.

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red_heart
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FFS, what are you talking about?! You are saying like Russia has an agenda to take over whole Europe...does anybody really believes this shit or are shills just pushing the idea as a part of an ongoing demonizing of Russians thats been going on for at least 200 years..
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yes, Russia DOES have an agenda, like any other empire, to dominate Europe economically and strategically, or at least parts of it. Where the f*ck have you been living? That's obvious to anyone with a decent brain!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55885522


Oh, its obvious? Could you show me some example of Russias actions to take over EU? Cause all I see for the past 25 years is expantion of NATO towards Russia. Your belief would be funny if it wouldnt be so sad...
 Quoting: Matjaz


Lol it didn't happen because russians are not able to walk for 30 meters without shooting in their own feets. Conquer Europe its their wet dream but, just like in the past, it won't happen.
And NATO it's a legit alliance, it can move everywhere if a state is in the alliance. Period. If Ukraine tomorrow enters NATO, NATO troops will move 1 meter before russian border and russia has just to shut up.
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Really, wet dreams you say...funny if we look at history, western Europe tried seriously to invade Russia two times. Both attempts failed miserably. On other side Russia NEVER invaded west, except in 1945 when they retaliate the pain and suffering of their people. Well, the diffrence is Ruskies suceed in taking of Berlin.

As far as NATO goes, sure bring it on and lets see who is who in UA...
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Well, there are some folks even in this thread, who thinks 20 A-10 jets with hundred flyovers would solve the problem in 24 hours chuckle That guy who wrote it, apperantly forgot about S-400 and S-500 gadgets. Who really knows how manny S-500 Russians produced. It would get real ugly for NATO in first hours of campaign, I'm sure in that. And when B-2's would start to fall down the hard reality Will kick west in the face. NATO cant do shit here. I'm not underestimating NATO...far from that. But fact, that Russia is so close to the border tells us, they dont really need to perform invasion. NATO would have to establish a major logistic project while Russia doesnt. They are right there in the neighbourhood.
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It may be they are willing to sacrifice a few dozen modern jets (not the ancient A-10s so much), in order to uncover the capabilities and limitations (and weaknesses) of the S-500. How better to find out than to lose some in combat?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

'They' will not sacrifice 'a few dozen modern jets' they don't need to. 'They' have the ability to
light-up SAMS in several different ways.
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But Russia has cloaking devices from Donetsk factory...you lose
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Since Sweden is now much more Marxist Communist than Russia, from my pov, Sweden is the enemy.

And insane. Any country opening itself to massive Islamic immigration doesn't need an outside enemy to destroy it. Russia is simply the external boogie man needed to explain your self destructive social policies. Am I right?
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I thought I was posting from Norway. Never mind. Russia is the the enemy of mankind, if you will, while you are the enemy of the USA I understand.
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We live in an evil world and all the Western countries are conspiring together. Until the opposite is proven, Russia is the only hope that someone might have good intentions. Against the Zionist complex, being able to reveal there intriguing games all over the world.

I hope Russians has, as its primary goal, only to reestablish their old country which was destroyed by the Zionists causing the Russian Revolution and establishing of the Soviet Union.

When I see the Western countries so obsessed to get Russia on its knees by causing the rebellions in neighboring countries, it is almost proof to me that they want to prevent Putin from reaching such a goal.

I believe really Putin has got it in his heart to go back to the old times, the old nation as Russia was meant to be.

Of course the Zionists are very angry to loose what they obtained about 100 years ago. It could be a major obstacle for the One World Government, becoming formed by the Zionist Communists who now have almost gained the whole World except Russia.
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Great post!
I think you are right.

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Oh shit the underground storage facilities in the mountains have opened.
Thousands of hardware pieces on the streets.
Millitary on every corner.
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Destroyed Ukraine position,
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Anyone tell me why nato is using bogus images to raise tensions?
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Not sure what #Putin's getting at by requesting #NAF release pockets of #Ukraine troops to come back and fight them again..games.. #cdnpoli
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 1 hod.
SIT REP: NAF have captured #Blahodatne in the N.E. sector of the #Amvrosiivka pocket - narrowing. #cdnpoli #Ukraine

Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 42 min.
SIT REP: NAF have retaken #Osypenko west of #Mariupol on the coastal highway..for the moment anyway. #cdnpoli

Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 40 min.
BREAKING SIT REP: #NAF counterattacking N.W. from #Gorlovka to #Svitlodarsk to entrap #Ukraine forces in #Debaltseve and area. #cdnpoli
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Well, there are some folks even in this thread, who thinks 20 A-10 jets with hundred flyovers would solve the problem in 24 hours chuckle That guy who wrote it, apperantly forgot about S-400 and S-500 gadgets. Who really knows how manny S-500 Russians produced. It would get real ugly for NATO in first hours of campaign, I'm sure in that. And when B-2's would start to fall down the hard reality Will kick west in the face. NATO cant do shit here. I'm not underestimating NATO...far from that. But fact, that Russia is so close to the border tells us, they dont really need to perform invasion. NATO would have to establish a major logistic project while Russia doesnt. They are right there in the neighbourhood.
 Quoting: Matjaz

It may be they are willing to sacrifice a few dozen modern jets (not the ancient A-10s so much), in order to uncover the capabilities and limitations (and weaknesses) of the S-500. How better to find out than to lose some in combat?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

'They' will not sacrifice 'a few dozen modern jets' they don't need to. 'They' have the ability to
light-up SAMS in several different ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58923104


But Russia has cloaking devices from Donetsk factory...you lose
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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RT ‏@RT_com · 55s
URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box
To Russia? hmm
 Quoting: Taskforce88
Its where they want to go. Penalty for desertion gives you 15 years of prison if I'm not mistaken.
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Only if they don't stay in Russia until the next change of regime in Kiev. Healthy young men, they will get paid employment, Russia has a shortage of young Russian speaking men.
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True and they are their "blood". Russian, Ukrainian its all the same. If you ask Ukrainian today, he feels Ukie and 15 years from now(depends on political situation) he Will say, he is Russian. Very fluid thing for them.
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doesnt' say corridor to RUSSIA

[link to kremlin.ru]
 Quoting: Zuckerborg


RT Kremlin press agency said that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62265757


We will wait for approval from Vatican though rex
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Hahaha you people are obsessed with this Vatican thing everytime you think about italy. Why? Im glad to host the Vatican State "inside" Italy, it was a state since croatia was just a piece of nothing, so Vatican has the right to be still a state, even if its just "symbolic".

West isn't like russia, we know the meaning of the word "respect". We don't invade small country just because we have finished vodka and we are bored. banana2
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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 2 min.
Abandoned #Ukraine positions, ammo, vehicles all intact pic.twitter.com/RpYLZUWPR6

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Sorry, but thy just flee. That is not retreating ffs!

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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RT ‏@RT_com · 55s
URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


To Russia? hmm
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Why is that problem for you?

“I urge the militias to open a humanitarian corridor for Ukrainian troops that were surrounded, in order to avoid meaningless victims and provide them with the opportunity to freely withdraw from the battlefield area, to be reunited with their families, to return to their mothers, wives and children,” Putin said.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62254292


red_heart
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Ukrainian troops have been routinely crossing into Russian territory over the course of the conflict seeking refuge from militia, who were pushing them towards the border, or after negotiating a safe passage
from an encirclement. On Wednesday alone over 60 Kiev troops crossed into Russia, bringing the total number of those who fled to safety to over 600 men.

READ MORE: Over 60 Ukrainian troops cross into Russia seeking refuge

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After getting medical help, if needed, Kiev’s troops were allowed to freely return to Ukraine. Not all of the did, however, fearing prosecution, as the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s office has launched over 1,000 investigations into those men on charges of disobedience, desertion and evasion of military service.

Russia in the meantime is ready and will provide aid to Ukraine’s regions suffering from a humanitarian disaster, the Russian leader added according to the Kremlin’s press service.

“Once again, I urge the Ukrainian authorities to immediately stop the fighting, stop the fire, sit down at the negotiating table with representatives of the Donbass [Region, Eastern Ukraine], to solve all the accumulated problems peacefully,” he said.
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doesnt' say corridor to RUSSIA

[link to kremlin.ru]
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RT Kremlin press agency said that
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We will wait for approval from Vatican though rex
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Hahaha you people are obsessed with this Vatican thing everytime you think about italy. Why? Im glad to host the Vatican State "inside" Italy, it was a state since croatia was just a piece of nothing, so Vatican has the right to be still a state, even if its just "symbolic".

West isn't like russia, we know the meaning of the word "respect". We don't invade small country just because we have finished vodka and we are bored. banana2
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The west knows 'respect'? You living in some alternate universe? Lol
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Major escalation within 24 hours
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I think the same, but do you have any source?
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I have some, but this is more a gut feeling too.
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What are you thinking it will be?
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Not long until the mobilisation in lativa and poland....
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 2 min.
Abandoned #Ukraine positions, ammo, vehicles all intact pic.twitter.com/RpYLZUWPR6

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Sorry, but thy just flee. That is not retreating ffs!

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They didn't even have time to destroy it.oops2
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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To Russia? hmm
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Its where they want to go. Penalty for desertion gives you 15 years of prison if I'm not mistaken.
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Only if they don't stay in Russia until the next change of regime in Kiev. Healthy young men, they will get paid employment, Russia has a shortage of young Russian speaking men.
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True and they are their "blood". Russian, Ukrainian its all the same. If you ask Ukrainian today, he feels Ukie and 15 years from now(depends on political situation) he Will say, he is Russian. Very fluid thing for them.
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I want to see how zealots from Azov, Aidar and Right sector go through humanitarian corridor to Russia. I have to it!

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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
It is the right decision for US to not militarily involve in Ukraine. It is not worth it. Europe should also easen up tension with Russia, not irritate it further.

Perhaps Ukraine would be better in Russian hands, who would know?
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Think it would, before this crisis happened Russia made Ukraine several offers to rebuild it's economy and pay off their debts in a way that would benefit them both. In any case, better than to become the IMF's bitch.

But since western Ukraine seems hellbent on focusing on the EU and all... You know, i often wonder what Kiev is going to do if they would reclaim all of it's territory in the (south)east and close the border to Russia. Lot of people in eastern Ukraine really, really dislike the course they see their country is taking, and don't necessarily don't want to be a part of Russia, but there's still a lot of bad blood between these two halves of people who both have very different ideas what should be happening.

The problems that existed before this war, will be there after this war. If Kiev starts bullying (ethnic russians and russia leaning Ukrainians) these people out, what's to stop Russia from acting again?

I say, split the country up. Saves everyone a lot of trouble, and everyone's a winner. Ofcourse, like Crimea's wishes to join with Russia (Don't deny it, the far majority did, hence it's greater autonomy in the past), an eastern Ukraine or Novorussiya will never be accepted or recognized by a large part of the world.

Even if it would mean that it eases decades long tensions and both would get what they want.
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This is all nice & dandy but there's absolutely no guarantee that the splitting up of ex-Soviet and ex-commie countries will stop with this. In fact, this splitting up will encourage further advancement of the Russian agenda of surrounding itself with enclaves which can be easily destabilized and used as launchpads for proxy wars.
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And keeping a failed state like Ukraine together invites unrest by itself, this war is testimony of that. I think that by now there are plenty of east Ukrainians who are appalled by what they see as aggression towards a movement to seperate themselves from their influence, and again, a course they do not want as a future for Ukraine. And i don't think they'll forget this war easily, either. More or less it showed us what's been wrong in Ukraine ever since the Soviet Union broke up. The underlying differences and ways of life have become so much more obvious.

As of the supposed Russian agenda, i am of the opinion that if NATO is expanding eastwards, they also have a right to seek back some of their former territory, why? Because NATO wanted it that way, so let them have a taste of their own medicine. If current member states did that because of the so called "red menace" posed by current Russia, it is largely unfounded fear imposed by us.

I'm sick of the self righteous and "better than thou" attitude the west has been displaying to the rest of the world, the imperialism they accuse Russia with, they are just as guilty of, even if that means through more stealthier means, or without "conquest", it still did, not through standing armies. It just happened through politics.

Like i said, they should have respected Russia, treated it as a trusted ally. Now Russia finds itself surrounded with the Baltic states, Poland, Moldova, Romania and maybe even Ukraine and Georgia, if it's up to NATO. What do you expect? There is no trust! Wouldn't you expect an likewise response and resistance, if suppose, the US fell apart during the cold war spending much of the following decades trying to rebuild, and the Soviet Union said they'd stop at East germany only to introduce every European country into the fold and much of South America? Creeping up to american borders?

Russia is that cornered cat, and the west has done everything to force it into that position. I don't care about NATO, the EU or Russia and their allies, but i do see a strategy at play here and it's outright dangerous. MH17 was as good an example of "our" attitude towards Russia as i'll ever need. Only a few hours and the UK/US were already sure they did it. So much more later, and we're nowhere further along the road.

Russia is an obstacle, plain and simple. They gathered themselves from an event the US was sure they'd never recover from and came back stronger than they expected. Now, we're back into cold war times... All because of our unwillingness to talk, because we have to expand our power and spread cultures and ideas to those not ready to accept them. It's just silly. We keep these fears alive because of... What?

Look. I very much doubt it is Russia's intention to militarily conquer all of continental europe, it is just not capable of doing that now. Maybe during their Soviet times, but not anymore. They only carry an strategy of deterrence and establishing a thick border zone between themselves and NATO. Ukraine was that line seperating them, and now they are being threatened with losing it and facing bases and missile shields of an adversary that already carries an extremely biased hostility against them, for decades.

Yeah... I'm not surprised we are witnessing that what is happening today.
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You should log in, so people could give you green.. thumbs
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Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Latvia
28 Aug 2014


Unofficial Translation


Latvia condemns the invasion of Ukrainian territory by armed forces of the Russian Federation. This represents open aggression against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and undermines the fundamental principles of international law. The offensive actions undertaken by the Russian Federation pose a threat to peace and stability throughout Europe.

Latvia supports an urgent review of this matter at the UN Security Council and other international organisations, and Latvia will propose that the 30 August European Council decide on further actions by the European Union in the context of Ukrainian crisis.

Latvia calls on Russia to immediately withdraw its armed forces from Ukrainian territory, and stop sending weapons and mercenaries to the terrorist groups of the so-called “people’s republics” of Donetsk and Luhansk.

[link to www.mfa.gov.lv]


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