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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55669313 Bulgaria 03/16/2014 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Joint statement by President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and President of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso on Crimea Brussels, 16 March 2014 – As stated by all 28 EU Heads of State or Government on 6 March 2014, the European Union considers the holding of the referendum on the future status of the territory of Ukraine as contrary to the Ukrainian Constitution and international law. The referendum is illegal and illegitimate and its outcome will not be recognised. [link to europa.eu] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 03/16/2014 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 to resign or to be removed involuntarily and then the change to be rubber stamped by the Duma. He seems to weak at this moment, may be his weakest moment for 14 years, after Kursk tragedy. He lost all his negotiation positions with the West and remains to be seen as the powerful military leader such as he IS NOT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55500676 Australia 03/16/2014 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Whatever. Russia has the upper hand at all levels: financial, energetic, military, popular support and own territory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052 Once you understand this rock-solid fact then you can go on speculating about how a divided, bankrupt and cowardly West can defeat Russia for the first time in its long history. Russia has a rickety economy based on natural resource export like a third world nation. They can certainly grab Crimea and Eastern Ukraine at the cost of going back to standing in line for a chance at getting some toilet paper again...or just use Rubles. This will cause disruptions in Western Europe and financial pain. But this will give the US and excuse to set aside ecological complaints and frack at full bore for "National Security". Western Europe will pay more for Natural Gas from the US, but will reduce dependence on Russia. Fracking at full bore will increase the world NatGas supply and reduce the price for Russian gas. Russia will be handing over its NatGas customers, and position in the market, to the US in exchange for some Tatars and Putin's ego. Cutting off the gas to EU is short term pain for EU but actually makes them more resilient in the long run. The funny thing is eventually you know they will want to sell gas again but it will have to be cheaper. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24756263 United States 03/16/2014 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55643586 Of course, everything is just the opposite. Americans are having a mental breakdown as they watch their little global empire crumble to the ground and just can't believe they are essentially irrelevant in and to the world now. Expect them to really butcher one another as the weather warms and they have no other outlet for their savage ways except to flay each other. Not the American people... the American oligarchs and their tools. Please make the distinction, because it's essential. Except for the mad guy who wants everybody in a camp. I'm not "mad", I'm disgusted. It seems that McCain, the romanian guy on here, and I, are the only ones left who know how to defend a nation. Or, an alliance as the case may be and how to deal with a monster like Putin. As someone said, "you have to admire the guy, he has guts. Has made the US and EU, look like..." Well Hitler was Time's man of the year as well. There was similarly, a large contingent in America who admired Hitler. Just like you pro-Putin morans today. Using the same old bigoted justifications. He's fighting the Jews, or the gays, or whatever group you are predisposed to hate at the time. So shout your ignorant little heads off. Enjoy this, what you see as some game. Because you ARE on the wrong side of history. Nobel Peace Prize winners should not go to war. Other means to conquer hearts and minds would be used instead, don't you think? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38052225 United States 03/16/2014 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 First, Ukraine’s admission to the European Union must be accelerated so Ukraine has a long term objective to work towards. Second, the West must provide super-generous financial assistance. It must realize that Ukraine is a “war economy” and must be treated as deserving a Marshall Plan of sorts. Third, the West should supply Ukraine with the arms and munitions it needs to defend itself. This assistance must include uniformed training personnel located on Ukrainian soil. [link to www.forbes.com] |
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User ID: 5579294 Croatia 03/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Joint statement by President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and President of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso on Crimea Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55669313 Brussels, 16 March 2014 – As stated by all 28 EU Heads of State or Government on 6 March 2014, the European Union considers the holding of the referendum on the future status of the territory of Ukraine as contrary to the Ukrainian Constitution and international law. The referendum is illegal and illegitimate and its outcome will not be recognised. [link to europa.eu] this is suprprising. Barosso is a marxist Nazi. He gets on well with Nazi marxists. Unknowable, knowing nor knowledge am I, formless is my form. I dwell within a senses but they are not my home. Ever serenely balanced, I am neither free nor bound. Conciseness and joy am I...and bliss is where I am found. |
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User ID: 53485785 Brazil 03/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Unit88, what do you think will happen right aftEr paralympic and referendum. TOnight and tomorrow ? War or not ??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55683350 There will no no war!! Between who??? Ukrain can't do nothing !!! Sanction tomorrow, Cold War on and after that the big economic war Plausible. But I think Putin will act if Ukrainian troops remains in Crimea after 21th. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55412272 United States 03/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Depends on what they are. Visa restrictions for 120 people? No. Asset freezes for people who have already moved their assets? No. Obama refusal to play golf at Russian golf courses? No. But if the Europeans stand together and get a combination of sanctions together like: 1) Implement NatGas rationing and stop purchases from Russia. 2) No flights to or from Russia 3) No access to western banking 4) No visas for any Russian except humanitarian purposes 5) Turkey starts slowing down the Bosporous traffic 6) US starts reconsidering Polish missile shield 7) Expel from G8 and WTO Then those start to add up to real pain and danger to Russian economy if they present a united front. But they won't. |
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User ID: 53681375 United States 03/16/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yeah right. Keep repeating that stupid mantram for syourself. What the Eu won't buy otehrs will line up to obtain... because every fking body needs gas! get it? In 2008 during the global economic slowdown demand went down and Russia ended up burning through about 40% of their reserve cash. Their economy ended up being affected at a much higher rate than the West due to reliance on natural resources exports. A shooting or economic war, either one, will certainly cause an economic downturn which will have similar effects on Russian finances. Russia will not be able to turn to others, for instance China, because China sells their shit to the US and Western Europe which won't be buying their shit because they are in an economic downturn caused by financial war with Russia. Russia is connected to the world economy. They blow up the world economy...they blow up themselves. No getting around it. How do you go about having trade routes cut off (in tandem with who Syria and Iran trade with china, asia through hormuz for the most part). This is the new silk road aka entire m.e., land, pipelines, waterways, railroads *kof* "under adjustment". Add sanctions against russia and blame them for blowing up the world economy. You'd get a standing ovation at the UN/NATO (including those arms twisted behind by 3rd party) as well as the sucking anus called the u.s. Houses. Last Edited by DawaSatso on 03/16/2014 01:08 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55493132 United States 03/16/2014 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Depends on what they are. Visa restrictions for 120 people? No. Asset freezes for people who have already moved their assets? No. Obama refusal to play golf at Russian golf courses? No. But if the Europeans stand together and get a combination of sanctions together like: 1) Implement NatGas rationing and stop purchases from Russia. 2) No flights to or from Russia 3) No access to western banking 4) No visas for any Russian except humanitarian purposes 5) Turkey starts slowing down the Bosporous traffic 6) US starts reconsidering Polish missile shield 7) Expel from G8 and WTO Then those start to add up to real pain and danger to Russian economy if they present a united front. But they won't. and I may and a caveat fast track Ukraine into both the EU and NATO. |