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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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more because the areas in question are on their borders - Crimea has been an autonomous state, Russian friendly - the guys who took over in Kiev unlawful have also abolished the independence and Constitution of Crimea, the people there didn't like it, they were scared, and they are Russian. It's really a no-brainer that Russia would worry about that and that's their business. Imagine this scenario on any other countries border in EU or American - they would do the same if not more.

If you invite US and NATO troops into your country you're far from becoming independent. Look at what happened in the other countries and what mess there is now. Once they come they won't leave so easily. You'll throw your country in turmoil. But as they always say - "The Ukrainian people will determine the future of their country". Good luck!
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1 - Crimea is an autonomy within Ukraine, subject to Constitution of Ukraine.

2 - noone abolished Crimean constitution - everythinhg remained the same there. it was only government in Kiev that was changed. [its funny how you, person from Egypt (?) are telling me - a person from and in Ukraine what has happened here]

3 - Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country. That's the same as Israel invaded Lebanon because it had ''business'' there - as if Lebanon was a no-entity, void, noones territory

4 - me, and most of people here in the western part of Ukraine, as well as central and Kiev, have no problem being under US/EU protectorate. we want independence from Russia, not total absolute independence from everything. i already told you that - dont pretend you didnt read that.
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Interfax:

18:28 RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER, UKRAINE AMBASSADOR HAVE "FRANK" DISCUSSION - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY
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It doesnt matter if they sent troops or not. They have to report any troop movement on the crieman peninsula and Ill bet you that a request to surround military bases was not sent prior to them doing so.

And if you for one second believe that russia is not manipulating information in the media just as bad as the west does im afraid you are mistaken.

Russia has a long history of rigging elections, silencing political opponents and so on and yet people think they are the good guys. They only difference bewteen the west and russia is that people are falling for the russian propaganda which means that they are only better at it.

I for one choose to be a very critical liar in both directions, not only the west, which explains why i leave, with you, no link to prove any truth of the shit running out of my mouth.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf

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And you have links proving that the west is the only country using disinformation?

Lets see it then?

Or wait, lets see a link showing that Russia is correct and the west is wrong..

Wait, wait.. I want a link showing that there will be a FF soon..
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Why wpuld it not make sense for Russia to use disinformation?

I think everything coming out of both sides needs to be run through a bs filter first.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


^^THIS!
Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne

Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide

Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw
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Looks like a bunch of civvy's leaving on cam and a med truck arriving...
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Link please, i lost it hf
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Interfax now


18:28
RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER, UKRAINE AMBASSADOR HAVE "FRANK" DISCUSSION - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY

18:25
RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY SOURCE ACCUSES OBAMA OF EXTRA-JUDICIAL EXPROPRIATIONS

18:23
RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY: U.S. SANCTIONS LARGELY UNPRECEDENTED, REPRESENT DOUBLE STANDARDS
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55241105


And you have links proving that the west is the only country using disinformation?

Lets see it then?

Or wait, lets see a link showing that Russia is correct and the west is wrong..

Wait, wait.. I want a link showing that there will be a FF soon..
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Why wpuld it not make sense for Russia to use disinformation?

I think everything coming out of both sides needs to be run through a bs filter first.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


^^THIS!
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Seems we reached common grounds but differences remains. Talks will continue in the next days.

..Oh, wait, too much Ukraine-Russia stuff in my mind lol
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Dempsey Reassures NATO Allies on Ukraine

[link to www.defenseone.com]
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From the link: (sounds like some "red lines" are being set)

“We’re trying to tell [Russia] not to escalate this thing further into Eastern Ukraine, and allow the conditions to be set for some kind of resolution in the Crimea,” Dempsey said in an interview with PBS Newshour’s Judy Woodruff.

“But the message we are sending militarily is to our NATO allies,” he said.

When asked if there is a chance of U.S. military intervention in the Ukraine crisis, Dempsey replied, “That’s a question that I think deserves to be assessed and reassessed and refreshed as this thing evolves.”

“But remember,” he added, “we do have treaty obligations with our NATO allies. And I have assured them that if that treaty obligation is triggered, we would respond.”
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Russia is not the one trying to escalate things, the opposite.

Seeing through the conditioning - many will be fooled again I can see it already

putin
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I totally agree with you on this. I see this as the US and EU poking the bear, until the bear has to react. Some people are brainwashed. If they would only think about what Obama, and the bankers that back him, are all about, they would realize what is really happening. It must be the GMO's and fluoride in the water that is clouding their minds.
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#Ukraine MoD explicitly denies Russian reports of theft of MANPADS from UKR military base near Lviv #dezinformatsiya
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Looks like a bunch of civvy's leaving on cam and a med truck arriving...
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Link please, i lost it hf
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[link to www.youtube.com]

via

[link to belbek62.com.ua]
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Thanks you! banana2 Saving it now haha
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more because the areas in question are on their borders - Crimea has been an autonomous state, Russian friendly - the guys who took over in Kiev unlawful have also abolished the independence and Constitution of Crimea, the people there didn't like it, they were scared, and they are Russian. It's really a no-brainer that Russia would worry about that and that's their business. Imagine this scenario on any other countries border in EU or American - they would do the same if not more.

If you invite US and NATO troops into your country you're far from becoming independent. Look at what happened in the other countries and what mess there is now. Once they come they won't leave so easily. You'll throw your country in turmoil. But as they always say - "The Ukrainian people will determine the future of their country". Good luck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55315132


1 - Crimea is an autonomy within Ukraine, subject to Constitution of Ukraine.

2 - noone abolished Crimean constitution - everythinhg remained the same there. it was only government in Kiev that was changed. [its funny how you, person from Egypt (?) are telling me - a person from and in Ukraine what has happened here]

3 - Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country. That's the same as Israel invaded Lebanon because it had ''business'' there - as if Lebanon was a no-entity, void, noones territory

4 - me, and most of people here in the western part of Ukraine, as well as central and Kiev, have no problem being under US/EU protectorate. we want independence from Russia, not total absolute independence from everything. i already told you that - dont pretend you didnt read that.
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Oh good lord....are you serious?
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more because the areas in question are on their borders - Crimea has been an autonomous state, Russian friendly - the guys who took over in Kiev unlawful have also abolished the independence and Constitution of Crimea, the people there didn't like it, they were scared, and they are Russian. It's really a no-brainer that Russia would worry about that and that's their business. Imagine this scenario on any other countries border in EU or American - they would do the same if not more.

If you invite US and NATO troops into your country you're far from becoming independent. Look at what happened in the other countries and what mess there is now. Once they come they won't leave so easily. You'll throw your country in turmoil. But as they always say - "The Ukrainian people will determine the future of their country". Good luck!
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1 - Crimea is an autonomy within Ukraine, subject to Constitution of Ukraine.

2 - noone abolished Crimean constitution - everythinhg remained the same there. it was only government in Kiev that was changed. [its funny how you, person from Egypt (?) are telling me - a person from and in Ukraine what has happened here]

3 - Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country. That's the same as Israel invaded Lebanon because it had ''business'' there - as if Lebanon was a no-entity, void, noones territory

4 - me, and most of people here in the western part of Ukraine, as well as central and Kiev, have no problem being under US/EU protectorate. we want independence from Russia, not total absolute independence from everything. i already told you that - dont pretend you didnt read that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55315665


Kiev abolished the Constitution for Crimea and the Constitutional court - check again.

As for the rest, I don't have time to answer now - but just some advise check exactly what EU is saying again as well. Also think about the Austerity Measures what that will do to your country. I'm from Egypt telling you all this because I'm going through turmoil and 3 Government changes in the last 3 years and know what the meddling of EU/US and IMF do to your country.
Again, I wish you look on your path to true independency!
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more because the areas in question are on their borders - Crimea has been an autonomous state, Russian friendly - the guys who took over in Kiev unlawful have also abolished the independence and Constitution of Crimea, the people there didn't like it, they were scared, and they are Russian. It's really a no-brainer that Russia would worry about that and that's their business. Imagine this scenario on any other countries border in EU or American - they would do the same if not more.

If you invite US and NATO troops into your country you're far from becoming independent. Look at what happened in the other countries and what mess there is now. Once they come they won't leave so easily. You'll throw your country in turmoil. But as they always say - "The Ukrainian people will determine the future of their country". Good luck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55315132


1 - Crimea is an autonomy within Ukraine, subject to Constitution of Ukraine.

2 - noone abolished Crimean constitution - everythinhg remained the same there. it was only government in Kiev that was changed. [its funny how you, person from Egypt (?) are telling me - a person from and in Ukraine what has happened here]

3 - Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country. That's the same as Israel invaded Lebanon because it had ''business'' there - as if Lebanon was a no-entity, void, noones territory

4 - me, and most of people here in the western part of Ukraine, as well as central and Kiev, have no problem being under US/EU protectorate. we want independence from Russia, not total absolute independence from everything. i already told you that - dont pretend you didnt read that.
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One little problem with your stated position:

"Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country."

Conflicts directly with your very next point:

"have no problem being under US/EU protectorate."


I don't think you understand what it means to be under their protection..

Where's your gold??
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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independent from Russia, i didnt mean totally independent.
its national liberation war for us - to fully separate from Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55212291

And one more question for you. You had more than 23 years of national independence. Russia acknowledged it did very littel to interfere in your affairs up until now. What prevented you from building the kind of state you wanted all this time?
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as i said country was and is split - two parts pulling in opposite directions, Parliament split the same as people are, president always representing one OR other part, and cannot ignore the other part of the country which opposes him - we're stuck.

we've been for last 23 years.

now, revolution (supported by western and central Ukraine, opposed by east and south, incl Crimea) has won and ousted Putin's puppet. Putin angry - wants to beat us back into submission.

i, personally, have always been and am in favor of peaceful separation like former Chechoslovakia - it would be better for all.
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more because the areas in question are on their borders - Crimea has been an autonomous state, Russian friendly - the guys who took over in Kiev unlawful have also abolished the independence and Constitution of Crimea, the people there didn't like it, they were scared, and they are Russian. It's really a no-brainer that Russia would worry about that and that's their business. Imagine this scenario on any other countries border in EU or American - they would do the same if not more.

If you invite US and NATO troops into your country you're far from becoming independent. Look at what happened in the other countries and what mess there is now. Once they come they won't leave so easily. You'll throw your country in turmoil. But as they always say - "The Ukrainian people will determine the future of their country". Good luck!
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1 - Crimea is an autonomy within Ukraine, subject to Constitution of Ukraine.

2 - noone abolished Crimean constitution - everythinhg remained the same there. it was only government in Kiev that was changed. [its funny how you, person from Egypt (?) are telling me - a person from and in Ukraine what has happened here]

3 - Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country. That's the same as Israel invaded Lebanon because it had ''business'' there - as if Lebanon was a no-entity, void, noones territory

4 - me, and most of people here in the western part of Ukraine, as well as central and Kiev, have no problem being under US/EU protectorate. we want independence from Russia, not total absolute independence from everything. i already told you that - dont pretend you didnt read that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55315665


One little problem with your stated position:

"Russia can worry all it wants, but its happening in another country, its not one of Russia's oblasts! Russia (and many in the West) need to finally learn to respect the fact that Ukraine is a separate country."

Conflicts directly with your very next point:

"have no problem being under US/EU protectorate."


I don't think you understand what it means to be under their protection..

Where's your gold??
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As I said the other day they protested to change master not to be free. Sad.
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Russian troops forcibly entered #Ukraine military base in Crimea. Putin indifferent to US/EU warnings, looking for excuse for escalation.
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Bad: UNJUSTIFIED THREATS TO RUSSIA FROM U.S, NATO ON UKRAINE SITUATION ALLOW TO DECLARE "FORCE MAJEURE" -- INTERFAX RU DEFENSE SRC
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in reference to what the contractual agreements by all members of NATO? if this is right then SHEEEEEEET... but i dont buy this yet...
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It's not THEIR gold anymore.
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It doesnt matter if they sent troops or not. They have to report any troop movement on the crieman peninsula and Ill bet you that a request to surround military bases was not sent prior to them doing so.

And if you for one second believe that russia is not manipulating information in the media just as bad as the west does im afraid you are mistaken.

Russia has a long history of rigging elections, silencing political opponents and so on and yet people think they are the good guys. They only difference bewteen the west and russia is that people are falling for the russian propaganda which means that they are only better at it.

I for one choose to be a very critical liar in both directions, not only the west, which explains why i leave, with you, no link to prove any truth of the shit running out of my mouth.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf

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And you have links proving that the west is the only country using disinformation?

Lets see it then?

Or wait, lets see a link showing that Russia is correct and the west is wrong..

Wait, wait.. I want a link showing that there will be a FF soon..
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Why wpuld it not make sense for Russia to use disinformation?

I think everything coming out of both sides needs to be run through a bs filter first.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


!

ALWAYS A BS FILTER ON !! ALWAYS, even in my sleep hf


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Hundreds of #Russian soldiers arrive at a base near #Simferopol, #Crimea, Reuters reports | #Ukraine Live Blog [link to aje.me]
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A bloke called Dr Jonothan Eyal, from the royal united services institute in London was on the radio earlier and he said something that's overlooked in the west is that Ukraine, to the Russians at least, is not a proper state like France of Germany.

The Ukraine is probably more closer to the russians' heart, emotionally speaking, than anywhere else and that Kiev is considered more Russian than even Moscow, which he said could indicate any move into east ukraine would be followed by a full scale assault on Kiev in the coming weeks.
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would you, people in the West just for a second consider the opinions of Ukrainians, and not just Russia?

more than half of Ukraine people see Russia as an ENEMY, which it is - it wants to crush our independence.
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What do you think America will do? What do you think EU will do? They are out for their own gain, not to help the people.
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That is what most people don't know. The trade sanctions is one thing. Another thing is NATO to send troops to defend Kiev in case of Russian invasion of mainland Ukraine. Including Turkish NATO troops to counterattack from the South. But that would be a standoff between NATO and Russia if not a direct clash.

I wonder why you dear friends from West Ukraine and Poland, and others, why don't you try to say more in that direction? You accuse respected posters of being pro-Putin. I am not pro-Putin who cries with slogans "Putin, come!". I analyze situation in the most disinterested way possible for me. I don't want the war in Ukraine. I don't want the separation of Ukraine. I don't want Russian invasion. I fear that all will happen though. If I write what I fear will happen, does it mean I want it? Then better shut down this and other conspiracy sites altogether.

I hope the level of reasoning of most readers is above that primitive level. If someone cries "fire" that doesn't mean that someone ignited the fire or wants the fire to burn the house. Please, respect the posters and comment what they write, and do not attack them for the sole purpose they don't cry "Ukraine!, and Down Putin's hands from Ukraine!" GLP is just above that primitive level of street politics. If GLPers see Putin as possible invader, as btw CNN sees him too, then there is a reason to write so. Would you call CNN and the other Western media as Ukraine-unfriendly only because they warn of possibilities? It is laughable if you think so. SO much of the Ukrainian view that just cut thru the discussion. Come and join the discussion with your elaborated views on world/Ukraine politics, please!
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look at these graphs about Ukraine - it will explain a lot (re language, population leaning etx)

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LIVE from.. i don't know where lol: [link to www.ustream.tv]
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#Ukraine MoD explicitly denies Russian reports of theft of MANPADS from UKR military base near Lviv #dezinformatsiya
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Theft by whom?
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What do you think America will do? What do you think EU will do? They are out for their own gain, not to help the people.
 Quoting: katballoo


i know, we all realize we have to rely only on our own strenghth. we hope west will do what it can, whatever help would be good
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Russian troops forcibly entered #Ukraine military base in Crimea. Putin indifferent to US/EU warnings, looking for excuse for escalation.
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Russia is not the one trying to escalate things, the opposite.

Seeing through the conditioning - many will be fooled again I can see it already

putin
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yeah, riight....

and its the Ukrainian military occupying Crimea
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Part of it is, yes! 70% of Crimea is Russian! Russia has a military installation in Crimea, they are protecting their people. Can you not read between the lines? Has most people in America so dumbed down that you can't see what is really going on? Come on! Obama is pure evil personified. The bankers behind him are evil and only out for themselves and the NWO. WAKE UP!!!!!
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Think I'll Declare "Force Majeure" and stay my ass in bed this morning...

My new pet name for my wife will be "NATO"...
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What do you think America will do? What do you think EU will do? They are out for their own gain, not to help the people.
 Quoting: katballoo


i know, we all realize we have to rely only on our own strenghth. we hope west will do what it can, whatever help would be good
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55315665


The West cares about your people no more than Moldavian people or Lybian people. We are all the same to them, indigenous underdeveloped tribes, which are so easy to manipulate (or so they believe). Do not be too flattened by Nulad giving away cookies, these people gave beads and spirits to Native Americans and then killed almost all of them.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Beware GLP'ers

Force Majeure declared!

That means Russia knows what they are up to - possible FF and attempt to escalate. That force majeure means they will not be held responsible for what happens, basically they are calling them on their game. Russia will not screw around with those kinds of things and will make an end to this quickly.

I said yesterday there's something up after the meeting yesterday in Paris. The warmongers have always a plan how to kick shit off and those who were there kicked off Bosnia/Serbia, Libya and Syria as a few examples!!!

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