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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I said it before and I'll say it again. Cant wait for offensive to start, if nothing else it will stop the boring bickering here and show who is who on the batllefield. Summer was disgraceful for ukies.
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Time to nuke some Russians boys!

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US To Shift Nuclear Missiles in Europe in Anticipation of War Vs Putin
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All Ukies lies and propaganda. Americans don't have nuke cruise missiles, they don't have the technology to produce those missile systems. Only Russia.
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Little ukie asks his Granpa,
What is ram, Grandpa?
You know son it’s such a thing which
Enemies use against their neighbors,
Like Russia is our neghbor,
And Ukraine is a ram.
What ukies think about it, Grandpa?
Logs can’t think, sonny, can’t think.
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Originally heard it as a dialogue between student and professor in university. :)
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Time to nuke some Russians boys!

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US To Shift Nuclear Missiles in Europe in Anticipation of War Vs Putin
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First, lol @ you thinking Russia has the US beat on anything defense related.

Second the US has known air launched cruise missiles in Europe that everybody including the Russian gov is well aware of...

The US has 200 ALCM's with W-80 nuclear warheads stationed in Europe. These can be launched from a variety of aircraft and have a range of 2600 km and 150 kiloton warhead and is stealthy.

There is also 100 US B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe.
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ · 4 min.
RT “@balintszlanko: For the third night in a row, no shelling in #Donetsk last night. #Ukraine”

marqs ‏@MarQs__ · 2 min.
First 24 hours without dead or injured #Ukraine soldiers since beginning of the conflict says #Poroshenko
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ · 8 min.
But meanwhile - MT “@Conflict_Report:Russian forces reinforce troops near #Bahmutki highway with 5 tanks and several 2S1 s.-prop. howitzers“

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The Russian government is the one creating war in Europe, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and by secretly promoting separatism in multiple other European nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ fascist/far right parties in multiple European nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the west that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The Russian gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt kleptocracy that thrives on bribery and government theft of Russia's money, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the Russian gov kleptocracy that Putin is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-corruption movement heading east.

For example, that is what Ukrainians were fighting for far more than anything else - anti corruption and against government abuse of power. That is why the Kremlin is harming Ukraine- to try and stop that anti corruption reform, because once Russians saw its success in Ukraine in a year or two they would want to do the same in Russia.


Dear Russian shills that dominate this forum: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The Russian gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper corrupt, kleptocratic, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the west' or NATO or Europe or Nazis or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.
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Time to nuke some Russians boys!

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US To Shift Nuclear Missiles in Europe in Anticipation of War Vs Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64392483


First, lol @ you thinking Russia has the US beat on anything defense related.

Second the US has known air launched cruise missiles in Europe that everybody including the Russian gov is well aware of...

The US has 200 ALCM's with W-80 nuclear warheads stationed in Europe. These can be launched from a variety of aircraft and have a range of 2600 km and 150 kiloton warhead and is stealthy.

There is also 100 US B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5711227


For air bases and other military bases only one or two warheads are needed. For larger cities more warheads are used to destroy the entire area evenly.

Probably 6 to 10 of these warheads you listed are for Moscow alone and 4 to 6 for Saint Petersburg. They are targeted on a radial pattern with 1-3 spaced evenly near the center and several arranged around farther out to destroy all areas. Less strategic cities would not see this sort of total destruction but perhaps only destruction of industrial areas.

Both of those cities would become massive firestorms with nothing left but inflammable material. Only some of the damage is done by the initial explosion and blast wave. The rest is destroyed in the firestorm.
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The Russian government is the one creating war in Europe, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and by secretly promoting separatism in multiple other European nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ fascist/far right parties in multiple European nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the west that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The Russian gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt kleptocracy that thrives on bribery and government theft of Russia's money, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the Russian gov kleptocracy that Putin is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-corruption movement heading east.

For example, that is what Ukrainians were fighting for far more than anything else - anti corruption and against government abuse of power. That is why the Kremlin is harming Ukraine- to try and stop that anti corruption reform, because once Russians saw its success in Ukraine in a year or two they would want to do the same in Russia.


Dear Russian shills that dominate this forum: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The Russian gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper corrupt, kleptocratic, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the west' or NATO or Europe or Nazis or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.
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Fixed (corrected mistakes in bold):

The American government is the one creating war in the world, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq…, and many more by secretly promoting insurgency in multiple other world nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ islamist/far right parties in multiple world nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the east that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The American gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt hegemony that thrives on looting and government theft of World's wealth, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the American gov hegemony that Obama is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-hegemony movement heading west.

For example, that is why Ukrainians were dragged into war than anything else - geopolitical and economic interests of the west. That is why the Washington is abusing Ukraine- to try and stop Russian reform, because once Russians will success, soon it will be serious threat to American hegemony.


Dear American shills that that try to destroy this thrad: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The American gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper greedy, power hungry, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the east' or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.

You're welcome...

hf

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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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French St. Étienne football fans shot at & stabbed by Dynamo #Kiev & Dnipro fans. At least one injured. #Ukraine

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________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Nobody is going to war over this. Putin is deescalating as we speak. He's already shown he does not want eastern Ukraine and is trying to calm that situation down right now. All he wanted was Crimea and I have a good hunch that a deal between Ukraine and Russia will be reached on that as well to make it acceptable to all. This will either be a proper purchase of Crimea or perhaps in exchange for a long term free or greatly reduced gas deal to Ukraine. This is going to be Putin's way to come out on top.

As far as eastern Ukraine, Girkin and others pulled the Kremlin in too deep there and things just unfolded in a bad way.

It's going to all be OK. By spring everything will be getting back to boring day to day life in Ukraine and Russia.
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50 trucks to #Donetsk, 80 trucks to #Luhansk

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Nobody is going to war over this. Putin is deescalating as we speak. He's already shown he does not want eastern Ukraine and is trying to calm that situation down right now. All he wanted was Crimea and I have a good hunch that a deal between Ukraine and Russia will be reached on that as well to make it acceptable to all. This will either be a proper purchase of Crimea or perhaps in exchange for a long term free or greatly reduced gas deal to Ukraine. This is going to be Putin's way to come out on top.

As far as eastern Ukraine, Girkin and others pulled the Kremlin in too deep there and things just unfolded in a bad way.

It's going to all be OK. By spring everything will be getting back to boring day to day life in Ukraine and Russia.
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A lot of people around here think that either the US or Russian government wants war. I can promise you that neither if them want war with the other. They've each got enough of their own problems to worry about than to have to worry over a major international war. I hate to be a doom buster but that post is right. Things will chill out in Ukraine from here forward. If Putin wanted war with Ukraine he would have already done it months ago before Ukraine built up its military and before NATO had all this time to prepare. He could have taken all of eastern and southern Ukraine in a few weeks by a full scale invasion if that had been his goal. Clearly it's not.
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 Quoting: Luisport


omnomnom
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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 Quoting: Luisport


:omnomnom:
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Tell Putin it's time to straighten this whole thing out. He and Poroshenko need to sit down and work out a deal and don't quit until it's done. This mess is not good for anyone and only those two can straighten it out. It's time for them both to act like adults and come to an agreeable conclusion to this conflict.

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Your friends in the mighty "NAF" can't even take an airport from these guys, how pathetic.
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Your friends in the mighty Ukie army can't even provide one video of destroyed rebel units or destroyed rebel artillery etc.

Only dead civilians, and destroyed infrastructure.

how pathetic
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You must be using that Russian logic again.
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Time to nuke some Russians boys!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64392483


First, lol @ you thinking Russia has the US beat on anything defense related.

Second the US has known air launched cruise missiles in Europe that everybody including the Russian gov is well aware of...

The US has 200 ALCM's with W-80 nuclear warheads stationed in Europe. These can be launched from a variety of aircraft and have a range of 2600 km and 150 kiloton warhead and is stealthy.

There is also 100 US B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5711227


For air bases and other military bases only one or two warheads are needed. For larger cities more warheads are used to destroy the entire area evenly.

Probably 6 to 10 of these warheads you listed are for Moscow alone and 4 to 6 for Saint Petersburg. They are targeted on a radial pattern with 1-3 spaced evenly near the center and several arranged around farther out to destroy all areas. Less strategic cities would not see this sort of total destruction but perhaps only destruction of industrial areas.

Both of those cities would become massive firestorms with nothing left but inflammable material. Only some of the damage is done by the initial explosion and blast wave. The rest is destroyed in the firestorm.
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USA needs a lot of nukes in Utah, Kansas and Kentucky with a range of about 1000 miles. That would solve many problems.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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RUSKIES AT IT AGAIN...doing everything backwards....


Imagine this........ White white snow........black dots with rifles...... I call it White Russian.....
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The Ukrainian army got new modern tanks:
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RUSKIES AT IT AGAIN...doing everything backwards....


Imagine this........ White white snow........black dots with rifles...... I call it White Russian.....
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
The Russian government is the one creating war in Europe, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and by secretly promoting separatism in multiple other European nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ fascist/far right parties in multiple European nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the west that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The Russian gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt kleptocracy that thrives on bribery and government theft of Russia's money, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the Russian gov kleptocracy that Putin is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-corruption movement heading east.

For example, that is what Ukrainians were fighting for far more than anything else - anti corruption and against government abuse of power. That is why the Kremlin is harming Ukraine- to try and stop that anti corruption reform, because once Russians saw its success in Ukraine in a year or two they would want to do the same in Russia.


Dear Russian shills that dominate this forum: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The Russian gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper corrupt, kleptocratic, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the west' or NATO or Europe or Nazis or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.
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===> definition of paid gov. shill
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RUSKIES AT IT AGAIN...doing everything backwards....


Imagine this........ White white snow........black dots with rifles...... I call it White Russian.....
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most stupid smiley ever
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The Russian government is the one creating war in Europe, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and by secretly promoting separatism in multiple other European nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ fascist/far right parties in multiple European nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the west that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The Russian gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt kleptocracy that thrives on bribery and government theft of Russia's money, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the Russian gov kleptocracy that Putin is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-corruption movement heading east.

For example, that is what Ukrainians were fighting for far more than anything else - anti corruption and against government abuse of power. That is why the Kremlin is harming Ukraine- to try and stop that anti corruption reform, because once Russians saw its success in Ukraine in a year or two they would want to do the same in Russia.


Dear Russian shills that dominate this forum: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The Russian gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper corrupt, kleptocratic, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the west' or NATO or Europe or Nazis or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.
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I totally agree !
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Is that you, NotZuck?
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
The Russian government is the one creating war in Europe, by attacking multiple foreign nations with military force- Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and by secretly promoting separatism in multiple other European nations, and by supporting emerging radical/ fascist/far right parties in multiple European nations with corrupt and covert money, and by waging an incredibly intense psychological warfare campaign against the west that we can even see in vivid form right here at this forum.

The Russian gov is doing this because it is an unimaginably rich and highly corrupt kleptocracy that thrives on bribery and government theft of Russia's money, and because the globalizing anti-corruption laws of the West will destroy the kleptocracy as those ways spread east. So the Russian gov kleptocracy that Putin is head of is fighting to destroy that anti-corruption movement heading east.

For example, that is what Ukrainians were fighting for far more than anything else - anti corruption and against government abuse of power. That is why the Kremlin is harming Ukraine- to try and stop that anti corruption reform, because once Russians saw its success in Ukraine in a year or two they would want to do the same in Russia.


Dear Russian shills that dominate this forum: you better get off your asses and change your government real quick like or you're all going to regret it if you don't. The Russian gov has started a war that it cannot win and only you can stop it now before it kills a great many of you and leaves your country in utter ruin. Not that we want to, but that your hyper corrupt, kleptocratic, and now dangerously war- bent government will force us into war, which we will not lose. If it happens, it will be the last mistake for many of you. Don't let it happen. Your government is your enemy that is bringing harm to you, not 'the west' or NATO or Europe or Nazis or anything else. It's your government. Either change it, or perish.
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I totally agree !
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A change like Germany did 81 yrs ago?
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.





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