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User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 30 min Quoting: Falter U.S. Claims Russia Tested Cruise Missile, Violated Treaty: NYT The Associated Press ‏@AP 3 min BREAKING: US says Russian testing violated 1987 missile treaty, calls breach 'very serious matter.' "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47538941 United States 07/28/2014 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Freedom of speech Russia edition. Quoting: abraka_dabraka Women getting arrested by riot police omon for SITTING on a park bench in pushkin square, Moscow wearing Blue-Yellow Ukraine colours. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to translate.google.com (secure)] lol, those riot police better not stand near mirrors with their backs... |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nobody really knows. Except, you know... the people in charge of the show. But my dad, a retired Colonel. Thinks that this IS the start of something big. NATO is pushing Russia to war. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 07/28/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Who Is Igor Strelkov? Russians Love Reenactor Turned Rebel Commander Who Delivered Bizarre, Racist Press Conference Quoting: hIndsIght2020 [link to www.ibtimes.com] Western "political correctness" in it's finest. A man used "nergoid race" term one time - and he's racist now. Not even mentioning that the term is purely academical and neutral. "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60739782 United States 07/28/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Skizzy? The UKRAINIAN ARMY has every right to defend the territorial integrity of the Ukraine. You are proving yourself more and more as a Russian shill. Completely lack rational thinking and living in some fantasy land... Who do you define yourself as? Anarchist or "Aware of the NWO person"? And Yanukovich didn't have a right to quell protest in Kiev by force. Fiiine... What do you care anyway? Just live your life and be happy, or is life in Russia so depressing that you need to seek adventure and "bring culture" somewhere again? Too bad that you are retarded and therefor unfit for military service, your spilled guts would decorate some Ukrainian field very nicely. 1) Try to answer my question 2) "Bringing culture" is Western "national sport" - ask India, Africa, American natives. 3) My life is quite good and I have a plenty of ways to entertain myself. But I'm trying to use at least some part of my time to share my knowlege. Frequently turning out to be throwing pearls before swine through. 4) Yeah, I'm unfit for military - for another reason through. Because any - even light - damage to my head could lead to death. Inherited health problem. But what about you? Why are you not volunteering to help "legitimate kiev goovernment" to destroy "Russian opressors" on field? I bet, they are eager to have volunteers from any country now. I think that you are a great poster. You're very informative and I'm glad that you're here. |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros 17 min #Ukraine Ukrainian army Grad near #Gorolvka. #Donbas [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60739782 United States 07/28/2014 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Skizzy? And what is the difference of that and a Russian military veterans gathering? Am I supposed to blame these guys for something? They are heroes who fought for ESTONIAN INDEPENDENCE, the only way that could have been done at the time was in a German uniform. So GTFO. You may label them whatever you want but they killed your grandparents outnumbered 10 to 1 to save Estonia from the red army savages. b]You may label them whatever you want but they killed your grandparents outnumbered 10 to 1 to save Estonia from the red army savages. you bet on the wrong horse there, fight for him and lose and still have buthurt about this [link to en.wikipedia.org] Eat that. WHO CAERS look on Finland they fight for gers they can win war at north for them simple by efficiently cuting off Leningrad and you know ? After they recaptured Their land they show them midlle finger and stop pushing and now look where is Your Estonia and where is Finland. You understand now your wrong choice ? Where is Finland? Being invaded by black muslims that are raping the nice Finland girls. |
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Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 07/28/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tamonten And Yanukovich didn't have a right to quell protest in Kiev by force. Fiiine... What do you care anyway? Just live your life and be happy, or is life in Russia so depressing that you need to seek adventure and "bring culture" somewhere again? Too bad that you are retarded and therefor unfit for military service, your spilled guts would decorate some Ukrainian field very nicely. 1) Try to answer my question 2) "Bringing culture" is Western "national sport" - ask India, Africa, American natives. 3) My life is quite good and I have a plenty of ways to entertain myself. But I'm trying to use at least some part of my time to share my knowlege. Frequently turning out to be throwing pearls before swine through. 4) Yeah, I'm unfit for military - for another reason through. Because any - even light - damage to my head could lead to death. Inherited health problem. But what about you? Why are you not volunteering to help "legitimate kiev goovernment" to destroy "Russian opressors" on field? I bet, they are eager to have volunteers from any country now. I think that you are a great poster. You're very informative and I'm glad that you're here. Thank you. I'm trying to be informative. "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
KFinn
User ID: 55865398 Australia 07/28/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 He is just to stuck in his beliefs and can't comprehend that some people are different and have different values That applies to everyone here. except me Nah, not everyone. I we were all the same then that would make us the sheeple wouldn't it? Perish the thought. People are entitled to their own beliefs and values and they as equally entitled to change their minds. For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins. [link to www.rebelmouse.com (secure)] |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov 46 s #BREAKING #IMPORTANT - Igor Strelkov Presser, July 28, 2014: #Ukraine's Offensive Repelled [link to slavyangrad.org] "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
RTS REDUX
User ID: 57849075 United States 07/28/2014 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I would like to continue this as you have some serious gaps in your understanding but I fear that Luis and others are tired of this type of discussion. I refrain from this point on in circular discussions and abuse. As they say, pictures speak a thousand words. Putin is Russian Orthodox. Soros, Nuland, Porky and Yats are all Jewish. btw..when you keep insisting that Putin is jewish when he isn't, you should expect to be questioned about it. And why mention Luis? Are you planning on whining to him to ban me, or report this as an abusive post or something? RTS I posted an article suggesting his mother was. His mother may or may not have been be a Khazar. But this issue is just a distraction from the elephant in the corner of the room - that being Putin's close reliance/alliance with dual-citizen oligarchs that have goals identical to the dual-citizens in DC and NY. Anyone that knows Zionist history understands that the main modern ideologues came from the ashkenazis in Ukraine primarily and also Russia. The so-called soviet cleansing of jews is just a convenient piece of propaganda designed to mislead. They have enjoyed a relatively priveliged position since they destroyed the Romanovs. My main point to consider is this inherent contradicition in Putin's stated position. Your incessant defence and distractions from the above really is telling and I suggest your own zionist sympathies are showing through. As for my mention of Luis I am considering his insistence that this is a news thread and other debates should be kept to a minimum, no threats. Soros, Nuland, Porky and Yats are all Jewish, you admit they are zionists and you KNOW they are calling the shots in Kiev, and you say MY "zionist sympathies are showing through"? You are a transparent hypocrite and I see you still have no clue what a zionist even is. You conveniently ignored this post They are so Zionist, it's frightening and believe the whole world sees straight through the BS. it has nothing to do with "zionism" IMO. that is a term which very few even understand the meaning of and is used by the real ptb to distract. A Zionist is anyone who thinks Israel has a right to exist. these are the people who use the so-called "zionists" as a shield to deflect blame from themselves [link to www.thebabylonmatrix.com] like I said..your nazi is showing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36613458 United States 07/28/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nobody really knows. Except, you know... the people in charge of the show. But my dad, a retired Colonel. Thinks that this IS the start of something big. NATO is pushing Russia to war. Many of the people who rose to power in the US post-9/11 are psychopaths. They only care about achieving their goals, by any means. Their primary means have are through soft "color revolutions" and then direct military aggression. The US military serves them as a mighty mercenary force. Listen to them on the American propaganda channels - always pushing for more and more intervention. With them, anything is possible as long as the fighting and dying are other people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50343498 Germany 07/28/2014 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This becoming quite viral now: Quoting: °Lucy° Tony De Jonker ‏@TonyDeJonker 2 Min. Surface to air missile attack ruled out- Ukraine pilots in the frame for #MH17 murders [link to hat4uk.wordpress.com] … Like I said earlier - the lying of the Russian shills is even worse and more bizarre than the Russian government itself. 'A nation gone mad.' An Su-25 cannot do aerial combat at 33,000 feet. Not even close. It is not designed for higher altitudes and it cannot perform aeronautically at those density altitudes. It is a close air support aircraft and is designed to be flown in the lower altitudes only. The closest an Su-25 could do aerial combat would be at 23,000 feet and even then would be struggling. That means it would be at least 3000 meters (2 miles) from the aircraft at the closest. Second, a climbing Su-25 would be losing speed rapidly and would be useless in maintaining a line of fire at very long distance like this against an airliner moving at 500 knts 3000 meters away. It MIGHT get one lucky bullet hit if it was a real lucky and highly trained aerial combat Su-25 pilot - wait, those dont exist, and especially not in Ukraine. The 777 wreckage shows many many shrapnel holes or various shapes and sizes, in the hundreds, from numerous locations on the aicraft, consistent with a missile explosion and ruling out an attack by aircraft guns. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It looks like Luis was here. Finally! “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KFinn
User ID: 55865398 Australia 07/28/2014 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't know, but something is definitely happening. If it does, there won't be any talk of it. It will just happen and many lives will be lost. Probably not nuclear because it's too destructive. TPTB maybe psychos but they are not suicidal. That said, whatever is coming will be seriously nasty and millions of innocent lives will be lost. For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins. [link to www.rebelmouse.com (secure)] |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com 11 s Ukraine TV cuts live interview after Human Rights Watch representative refuses to admit ‘Russian aggression’ [link to rt.com] "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
dschis1000
User ID: 47839898 United States 07/28/2014 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hitler was initiated into fuhrer by british secret services. Whole ww2 was a british mi6 operation with its final goal creation zionist state. I'll argue only with "zionist" part of this statement. For some reazon this word became synonim of "evil" here, having no real connection with dictionary meaning. Really? And who wrote the (Western) dictionary? You seem like a smart guy. Do you think you can figure out how long it would take to cremate 1,000,0000 human bodies in 3 ovens, even if the three ovens were working 24 hrs a day? That's in the dictionary and history books, too. Are you about Auschwitz here? If I use your number of ovens (3) and wikipedia data on death toll and activity time there it would be around 230 people per oven in a day. Doesn't seem impossible to me. I still consider Zionism as a movement of Jews who wish to return to Israel. You people seem to call any involvement of Jews in politics Zionism. It's a bit difficult to me to understand. Zionism (like Communism and Central Banking) is the political manifestation of Jewish Supremism. Hardly a secret if you want to understand. NWO run out of Jerusalem and ruled of course, by Jews. "In Life Magazine and Look Magazine of the 16th of January 1962, David Ben Gurion, Zionist, atheist and first prime minister of Israel stated, while still in office: “The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: The Cold War will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union…[Glasnost, Perestroika & Gorbachev were right on time in 1987 and going according to plan] “…On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and the rising Political importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime. “With the exception of the U.S.S.R. as a federated Eurasian State, all other continents will become united in a world alliance at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a shrine of the prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah…" jesuits are jewish fifth column in Catholicism. Just a note. And here is smoking gun proof Bush Identified as Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal The Scroll goes on to address Bush as, "The Honorable Mr. George W. Bush, President of the United States of America." Then, however, in a most shocking and prophetic manner, the Scroll of Bush, a document representing the entire Jewish nation both in Israel and dispersed throughout the world, a document composed by and authenticated by the highest religious rabbis on the planet, addressed Bush by yet another title: "Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), Leader of the West!" [link to www.texemarrs.com] Thank you for the research tool! I have never seen that before. I had thought that before, but couldf never prove it. Now I have another "rabbit hole" to research. You would wish the Jews were behind this one.... it goes further than that. I've been missing a piece of evidence and that may be it. Thanks and blessings |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 27. 7. 2 #Ukraine border guards fled to #Russia saying not willing to fight against their own people [link to lifenews.ru] Video in article... “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com 11 s Quoting: Falter Ukraine TV cuts live interview after Human Rights Watch representative refuses to admit ‘Russian aggression’ [link to rt.com] R u fcuking kiddin me? Those Banderistan arrogant basterds! “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KFinn
User ID: 55865398 Australia 07/28/2014 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This becoming quite viral now: Quoting: °Lucy° Tony De Jonker ‏@TonyDeJonker 2 Min. Surface to air missile attack ruled out- Ukraine pilots in the frame for #MH17 murders [link to hat4uk.wordpress.com] … Like I said earlier - the lying of the Russian shills is even worse and more bizarre than the Russian government itself. 'A nation gone mad.' An Su-25 cannot do aerial combat at 33,000 feet. Not even close. It is not designed for higher altitudes and it cannot perform aeronautically at those density altitudes. It is a close air support aircraft and is designed to be flown in the lower altitudes only. The closest an Su-25 could do aerial combat would be at 23,000 feet and even then would be struggling. That means it would be at least 3000 meters (2 miles) from the aircraft at the closest. Second, a climbing Su-25 would be losing speed rapidly and would be useless in maintaining a line of fire at very long distance like this against an airliner moving at 500 knts 3000 meters away. It MIGHT get one lucky bullet hit if it was a real lucky and highly trained aerial combat Su-25 pilot - wait, those dont exist, and especially not in Ukraine. The 777 wreckage shows many many shrapnel holes or various shapes and sizes, in the hundreds, from numerous locations on the aicraft, consistent with a missile explosion and ruling out an attack by aircraft guns. The service ceiling of a Su-25 is 7km (23,000ft) according to Wikipedia. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This piece of information was last edited on July 21, 2014 and the point of reference is from this website: [link to www.sukhoi.org] I'm not saying you are right or wrong but if you are using Wikipedia as point of reference, just be careful. The Russian and US Governments have both been busted in recent weeks making edits to the Wikipedia to suit their own propaganda. For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins. [link to www.rebelmouse.com (secure)] |
KFinn
User ID: 55865398 Australia 07/28/2014 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com 11 s Quoting: Falter Ukraine TV cuts live interview after Human Rights Watch representative refuses to admit ‘Russian aggression’ [link to rt.com] R u fcuking kiddin me? Those Banderistan arrogant basterds! Of course they would. War is dirty and all morality is thrown out the window. Both sides are playing these games. For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins. [link to www.rebelmouse.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50343498 Germany 07/28/2014 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This becoming quite viral now: Quoting: °Lucy° Tony De Jonker ‏@TonyDeJonker 2 Min. Surface to air missile attack ruled out- Ukraine pilots in the frame for #MH17 murders [link to hat4uk.wordpress.com] … Like I said earlier - the lying of the Russian shills is even worse and more bizarre than the Russian government itself. 'A nation gone mad.' An Su-25 cannot do aerial combat at 33,000 feet. Not even close. It is not designed for higher altitudes and it cannot perform aeronautically at those density altitudes. It is a close air support aircraft and is designed to be flown in the lower altitudes only. The closest an Su-25 could do aerial combat would be at 23,000 feet and even then would be struggling. That means it would be at least 3000 meters (2 miles) from the aircraft at the closest. Second, a climbing Su-25 would be losing speed rapidly and would be useless in maintaining a line of fire at very long distance like this against an airliner moving at 500 knts 3000 meters away. It MIGHT get one lucky bullet hit if it was a real lucky and highly trained aerial combat Su-25 pilot - wait, those dont exist, and especially not in Ukraine. The 777 wreckage shows many many shrapnel holes or various shapes and sizes, in the hundreds, from numerous locations on the aicraft, consistent with a missile explosion and ruling out an attack by aircraft guns. The service ceiling of a Su-25 is 7km (23,000ft) according to Wikipedia. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This piece of information was last edited on July 21, 2014 and the point of reference is from this website: [link to www.sukhoi.org] I'm not saying you are right or wrong but if you are using Wikipedia as point of reference, just be careful. The Russian and US Governments have both been busted in recent weeks making edits to the Wikipedia to suit their own propaganda. from Sukhoi directly: [link to www.sukhoi.org] service ceiling - 7 km and keep in mind, an Su-25 at 7,000m vs an airliner at 10,000m would have to be in a nose very high attitude and thus would not only be at the top of its performance envelope in altitude, it would be nose high at that max altitude and stalling badly. Aiming at something 3,000 m away at that point isnt going to happen. Besides we already know what happened. A Buk SAM newly to the area was seen in the area be many people and photo'd and video'd both before and after the shootdown. It was seen coming into the area. It was seen on the road right beside where the missile trail was photo'd. This Buk SAM was seen on Luhansk after wards with one missile missing. The Russian government and the forces battling Ukraine have hidden and then lied about that Buk SAM. Evidence Review: Who Shot Down MH17? [link to www.interpretermag.com] and it turns out that the transporter carrying the Buk has been positively identified and the company that owns it was at the crash scene later with a different vehicle owned by them tampering with the evidence: [link to twitter.com (secure)] Its already conclusive although the official investogation no doubt add many more pieces of evidence for us casual observers. Now the shills will continue to try and detract form those very simple facts with lies and conspiracy theories. The only ones they will fool are themselves and a few unintelligent fools. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com 11 s Quoting: Falter Ukraine TV cuts live interview after Human Rights Watch representative refuses to admit ‘Russian aggression’ [link to rt.com] R u fcuking kiddin me? Those Banderistan arrogant basterds! Of course they would. War is dirty and all morality is thrown out the window. Both sides are playing these games. Of course war is dirty. I am not naive teenage hippie. But... This is so unnecessary. All for western interests, money and power. Economy and geopolitical domination. Jeez, when I see this videos, I can understand those people. We are all Slavs, I understand their language mostly. This is so different than struggle of Syrian or Iraqi people (not for those people but for me, this is so much closer). Maybe I act like some warmonger who wants Russian invasion manytimes, but, in fact, i want to see Obama, McCain, Nuland, Soros and all those filthy cowards on one side and all others, decent people on other side. Unfortunatelly those cowards abusing easy manipulated individuals to reach their disgusting interest and result is that mess... Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 07/28/2014 09:44 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 07/28/2014 09:51 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/28/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Blogs of War ‏@BlogsofWar 2 min White House: EU, U.S. to impose new Russia sanctions [link to www.airforcetimes.com] Japan will also put sanctions on Russia. Last Edited by Falter on 07/28/2014 09:52 PM "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/28/2014 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |