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I guess every one is so mad at each other No one has go

to the UN Stakeout to even speak.
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And that means

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The Republic of Crimea is GONE (to the Russians).

End of Story.

That is it.

Finish... No more discussions... No more bla... bla...

auf Wiedersehen, au revoir, adios, ... CIAO!!!

byekitty
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Old news, that happened yesterday.

Problem is what will go in Putin's belly next? Donetsk? Odessa? All of Ukraine?
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What Ukraine needs is the following:

- an international monitor who can come in and ensure fair elections and rid us from the Nazi-scum.
- Someone who can bring Putin and the newly ELECTED to the table
- funds to start building a country free of corruption
- An ensurance that Ukraine will remain FREE AND NEUTRAL within Europe
- Peace of mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55698289


It looks like Ukraine needs to do in the Ukraine what Putin
to some extent did in Russia, get rid of the handful of Oligarchs who are bleeding the Ukraine dry. Isn't the new
Ukrainian govt. giving the Oligarchs high level positions?
Not a good sign. Oligarchs spoil the situation every time.
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every body keep laughing eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.

just saying every body thinks this is a funny joke till

it is not and every day things have been escalated slowly

and every one yells doom off or doom on

they are getting ready though all these UNSC meeting

to justify there EVIL by declaring it right by both

Russia and the West will do. all this speaking it to try

to set up a false morale high ground which is nothing

but quicksand for both Russia and the West. both

are trying to justify there Evil.
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Took 1717 pages to get it right, Nice one !
“In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
― Sun-Tzu, A Arte da Guerra
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John Schindler‏@20committee9m

Russia wants to start an armed conflict with #Ukraine to disrupt 25 May Pres election, says UKR #natsec boss Andriy Parubiy: Interfax



John Schindler‏@20committee9m

Parubiy has directed IntMin & SBU (UKR Scty Svc) to commence counterintelligence & counterterror ops to thwart RU intelligence b4 elections



John Schindler‏@20committee4m

Russia media is reporting RU Air Force exercises w 40 jets practicing close air support near Estonian border. Sure it means...nothing...



John Schindler‏@20committee2m

GEN Valeriy Gerasimov, Chief of RU General Staff, had phonecon today with SACEUR @PMBreedlove about #Ukraine...bet that was, um, interesting
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Astrologicaly speaking we have 10 days to excalation starting 29 March...
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Stakeout finished, no one has spoken.
Not a good sign.
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Ukraine pulling out.

Russia have won
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Thread: Missing Malaysian MH370 All background checks received except those from Russia and Ukraine? coincidence?
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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If Rasmussen and NATO are so fucking concerned about Russia moving into Ukraine, they should have not staged a coup and overthrown the elected government in Kiev in February.
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I think they want to set precedents, too.
Obviously, Argentina was receptive to Russias conquest of lands that used to be theirs.

Obviously, the U.S. would not want a state to decide to be part of another country, even if they voted for it!

China wouldn't mind taking some of their own lands back...may be sympathetic to Russia but China's rep kept his opinion very short, he didn't use many words except saying escalation would have negative financial impacts.

So, people can think if the people voted for it, it should be okay.

What if your pets voted to live in the park instead of with you, after you've fed, spayed and neutered them? So, yes, the "official owners" are pissed the Park is offering to provide water services (troops).

Really, this is a hard call, morally--all politics aside. Treaties are signed, it's law so that should take precedence (as the USA states) but it seems everyone eventually breaks treaties, so the hypocrisy and "vote" makes it controversial.
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summary:

russia: crimea is mine

start infinite loop
rest: no it isn't
russia: yes it yes
end loop
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It can not be an infinite loop if it ends !
 Quoting: The Scientist


For a = 0 to 1 step a/2

Next

?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55817206


Sorry,

For a = 1 to 2 step a/2
.............
Next

?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55817206


:A
goto :A
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Astrologicaly speaking we have 10 days to excalation starting 29 March...
 Quoting: Luisport


March 29th is my ex's birthday...

Happy Birthday Honey!

They wanted to give you something special!
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Stakeout finished, no one has spoken.
Not a good sign.
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My feed died. I guess they are all butt-hurt.


Of course, this is bad. Not as bad as Samantha Powers saying, well you got Crimea, but you aren't getting anything else (so suck it Ukraine) and Obama saying (well, you wouldn't want us to get involved in this, it would be bad, so suck it Ukraine).

ps Ukraine. I hope you get your gold back because it would suck if you didn't.
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The Republic of Crimea is GONE (to the Russians).

End of Story.

That is it.

Finish... No more discussions... No more bla... bla...

auf Wiedersehen, au revoir, adios, ... CIAO!!!

byekitty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7901784


Old news, that happened yesterday.

Problem is what will go in Putin's belly next? Donetsk? Odessa? All of Ukraine?
 Quoting: Polemarchos


All Putin has to do is wait and let the new Ukrainian govt. cut the pensions in half, sell out what's left of the economy to the IMF, while Russia doubles the Crimean pensions, and pours resources into the Crimean economy.
Six monthes or so, things should sort out for the Ukrainians - unless of course the new Nazi govt. does something stupid regarding Russia, which is entirely possible - in which case, all bets are off.
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Why Ukraine's Situation Makes Russia's Other Neighbors Nervous?

[link to www.npr.org]
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Astrologicaly speaking we have 10 days to excalation starting 29 March...
 Quoting: Luisport


March 29th is my ex's birthday...

Happy Birthday Honey!

They wanted to give you something special!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25386277


Everything is escalating to the March 29-April 25 period, which may be the most intense planetary pattern of a lifetime. It doesn’t mean a specific event happens then, but it could. It could also be a very profound decision made by one of several government or banking leaders, the consequences of which may not be known right away. The last time anything remotely this powerful occurred was in late July-early August 2010. At that time, the Federal Reserve Board made the decision to not end its quantitative easing program, but instead expand it into QE2. It changed the entire financial world. Investors were forced into becoming traders unless they were quite happy with returns of less than 3% over 10 years. Savers vanished from the economy as interest rates (yields on savings accounts) dropped to 0 -.25% and to this day have not recovered. Imagine: if you had $100,000 in your saving account in mid-2007 and it earned 5% per annum as it did back then, your account today would be worth close to $150,000, an increase of 50% - an extra $50,000 in your account. But the rates did not stay at 5%. They fell to 0% and instead of having a $50,000 extra increase, you have nothing, due to the decision made at that time. That’s a lot of spending power taken from the economy. The thing is, this forthcoming cosmic pattern is just as powerful as that one in 2010, and the consequences could be just as important to the world at large.


Personally, I think the major players leading up this grand cardinal square are political leaders, like Vladimir Putin, Barack Obama, and maybe Angela Merkel, and not banking leaders. The grand square is hitting all three of them, or the countries they preside over. [link to www.mmacycles.com]

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The Republic of Crimea is GONE (to the Russians).

End of Story.

That is it.

Finish... No more discussions... No more bla... bla...

auf Wiedersehen, au revoir, adios, ... CIAO!!!

byekitty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7901784


Old news, that happened yesterday.

Problem is what will go in Putin's belly next? Donetsk? Odessa? All of Ukraine?
 Quoting: Polemarchos


All Putin has to do is wait and let the new Ukrainian govt. cut the pensions in half, sell out what's left of the economy to the IMF, while Russia doubles the Crimean pensions, and pours resources into the Crimean economy.
Six monthes or so, things should sort out for the Ukrainians - unless of course the new Nazi govt. does something stupid regarding Russia, which is entirely possible - in which case, all bets are off.
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Very good synopsis! That IMF is going to really hurt. Haircuts 100% off.
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Next Step

Eu will put sanction on dog food exported to Russia.
This will have significant effect for Putin dog.
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Astrologicaly speaking we have 10 days to excalation starting 29 March...
 Quoting: Luisport


March 29th is my ex's birthday...

Happy Birthday Honey!

They wanted to give you something special!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25386277


Picture from the future (10 days): [link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
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Obama says this whole thing is above my paygrade otrike...Ukraine sorry but obama9
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Obama and Kerry being devious regarding demands for EU sanctions on Russia...

[link to www.voltairenet.org]

Many, many, big EU based corporations would GO UNDER if they lost their Russian markets... Bankrupt! Kaput!

Likewise, the removal of those very companies would IMPROVE the positions of their AMERICAN COMPETITION!
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Russia did this in 1783 as well, Poland will get it back again, with the help of turkey.
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...


This sums up the pussy-whipped west. Russia has already won.
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You guys are coming up next.
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Obammy told you that Putin is the new Hitler, I understand
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I was told Obama was the new Hitler.
 Quoting: Corn Dog


Obama needs to grow some balls and start acting like hes the commander and chief of the most powerful military in the world. even G w bush would be better.
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In 1984, Golitsyn published the book New Lies For Old, wherein he warned about a long-term deception strategy of seeming retreat from hard-line Communism designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States.

In 1995 he published a book containing purported memoranda attributed to Golitsyn entitled The Perestroika Deception which claimed:

"The [Soviet] strategists are concealing the secret coordination that exists and will continue between Moscow and the 'nationalist' leaders of [the] 'independent' republics."
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Why should Iran comprise on its rights to enrich uranium? Ah, because "the West" says so .... Russia has been quite cooperative, approving sanctions on Iran in the UNSC, stopping delivery of S-300s, etc. But they are realizing "the West" will not be happy until they control the whole world, including Russia.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


You seem to be selective in your facts. The FACT is that Iran has PUBLICLY stated that their goal is to develop nuclear weapons with which to hit/threaten/control their enemies.

As for the 'west' trying to control the world, it is obvious that they aren't the only ones with that desire in their hearts.
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Oh, really? Do you have a link to that public statement by Iran? The only ones I have heard is that Iran is against gaining nuclear weapons.

The "West" is the only one bombing countless countries and undermining countless others in order to do that. Others may have aspirations but are completely lacking on the implementation part.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Well, since you seem to take Irans' 'made for public consumption' statements seriously, maybe the world should just let them develop nukes.

Maybe then, when their enemies are lying in ruins and the world has been conquered by islamic rule, we can all sit back and pat ourselves on the back for being so understanding of their rights. After all, their history of tolerance and compassion for others has been so exemplary.
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Dear neo-con, everyone makes "for public consumption" statements but the fact is Iran has been heavily infiltrated and mired by defectoins and yet there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. I hope they don't develop nukes but if they do it is no different than Israel, Pakistan, India, and who knows who else.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in centuries, unlike, say, other nuclear powers: US, UK, and France (this troika is constantly attacking and undermining countries); Israel (always busy with war, ethnic cleansing, and territorial expansion). One can also make arguments about China, India and Pakistan being a bigger threat.

Most of the world not brainwashed by "the West" sees US and Israel as far bigger threats to world peace than Iran.

Anyway this thread is not about Iran so ... have the last word :).
Sun_dancer
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The Republic of Crimea is GONE (to the Russians).

End of Story.

That is it.

Finish... No more discussions... No more bla... bla...

auf Wiedersehen, au revoir, adios, ... CIAO!!!

byekitty
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Old news, that happened yesterday.

Problem is what will go in Putin's belly next? Donetsk? Odessa? All of Ukraine?
 Quoting: Polemarchos


All Putin has to do is wait and let the new Ukrainian govt. cut the pensions in half, sell out what's left of the economy to the IMF, while Russia doubles the Crimean pensions, and pours resources into the Crimean economy.
Six monthes or so, things should sort out for the Ukrainians - unless of course the new Nazi govt. does something stupid regarding Russia, which is entirely possible - in which case, all bets are off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593102

I guess you heard what the new nazi government has in mind if given enough time-regain nuclear weapon capability-which is very possible scenario.
Now, if you were in Putin shoes, would you allow/wait for this to happen? I wouldn't...
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What Ukraine needs is the following:

- an international monitor who can come in and ensure fair elections and rid us from the Nazi-scum.
- Someone who can bring Putin and the newly ELECTED to the table
- funds to start building a country free of corruption
- An ensurance that Ukraine will remain FREE AND NEUTRAL within Europe
- Peace of mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55698289


On the basis of an my personal experience in the five years of the war, and 15 years of waiting for the EU.

UTOPIA!

Love the first and the second and third. But like most yourself. They do not come to you because they love you or one you want to help. They will enslave you. Fight them all. Just believe in yourself. No one you do not need. Get the fuck out of them all. All this is NWO game.
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You seem to be selective in your facts. The FACT is that Iran has PUBLICLY stated that their goal is to develop nuclear weapons with which to hit/threaten/control their enemies.

As for the 'west' trying to control the world, it is obvious that they aren't the only ones with that desire in their hearts.
 Quoting: JazzyG


Oh, really? Do you have a link to that public statement by Iran? The only ones I have heard is that Iran is against gaining nuclear weapons.

The "West" is the only one bombing countless countries and undermining countless others in order to do that. Others may have aspirations but are completely lacking on the implementation part.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Well, since you seem to take Irans' 'made for public consumption' statements seriously, maybe the world should just let them develop nukes.

Maybe then, when their enemies are lying in ruins and the world has been conquered by islamic rule, we can all sit back and pat ourselves on the back for being so understanding of their rights. After all, their history of tolerance and compassion for others has been so exemplary.
 Quoting: JazzyG


Dear neo-con, everyone makes "for public consumption" statements but the fact is Iran has been heavily infiltrated and mired by defectoins and yet there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. I hope they don't develop nukes but if they do it is no different than Israel, Pakistan, India, and who knows who else.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in centuries, unlike, say, other nuclear powers: US, UK, and France (this troika is constantly attacking and undermining countries); Israel (always busy with war, ethnic cleansing, and territorial expansion). One can also make arguments about China, India and Pakistan being a bigger threat.

Most of the world not brainwashed by "the West" sees US and Israel as far bigger threats to world peace than Iran.

Anyway this thread is not about Iran so ... have the last word :).
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Too many Americans brainwashed into thinking Iran is scary. We spend more than ALL of the other countries in the world combined in military purchase, and we are worried about a bankrupt social unstable Iran! It would be funny if the implications weren't so serious. American stupidity is the biggest threat to world. Iran is scared of Israel alone! And we could fit 100 Israel's in Connecticut! I don't understand when all my fellow country men turned into idiots. Stupid is middle name for most.
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I guess you heard what the new nazi government has in mind if given enough time-regain nuclear weapon capability-which is very possible scenario.
Now, if you were in Putin shoes, would you allow/wait for this to happen? I wouldn't...
 Quoting: Mariush2002


Putin will merely incinerate the present government of Ukraine,
and that will end the nuclear threat.





GLP